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August 02, 2012

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UpNorthCane27

im not gonna jump into saying that because gaytor Hill resigned means that the NCAA is going to come down hard on UM. But i would like the ruling to come out sooner then later especially before we start the season so that our guys aren't losing focus.

#CANES12-0!!!

Ohio_Cane

Prediction time:

1 more bowl ban in addition to one we already took, 3-5 years probation, 24 scholarship loss over 4 years.

The What

I think NCAA is going after the coaches. We will get what Ohio state or UCF got. Not worried and crossing fingers that a ruling is coming soon.

86Cane

THIS CAN'T BE GOOD!

Posted by: canezilla | August 03, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Zilla...good to see u around the 'ol blob.

It was never going to be "good" for UM. The NCAA is going to hand out some serious sanctions and penalties to Miami and there is no doubt about that.

It's just that NOBODY knows how serious or severe they will be. I for one do not believe they are going to be that severe, but I am always the optimist.

Prediction: 1 more bowl ban and 5 schollies lost for 3 years (15 total) and 5 years probation.

Cruising

That's a brutal and negative prediction. We're basically screwed then. Do the math on the roster size into the third & fourth year & 2-3 years thereafter. Guaranteed mediocrity for years to come.

Ohio_Cane

The What, while I agree they won't be devastating, I think it'll be worse than what OSU, UNC, and UCF got.

The What

1 more bowl ban, 5 years probation, report to a monitor every six months about compliance, 5 schollies lost for 3 years or
15 over 3 years. Oh and 3 year show cause for hurtt and 1 year for hill

86Cane

The What...U are correct that the NCAA is going HARD after the coaches who participated in the NCAA violations.

Look for news on Hurtt (and possibly Stoutland) too pretty SOON.

The []_[]

Hill resigning might not be a bad thing. Shows the NCAA is going after the coach's like they said they would do. Hill was looking at a show cause just like Hurtt and a few others will. The biggest news was Shannon getting a job at TCU after the NCAA interviewed him. Means he was not a part of it and went no farther than assistant coach's. One more bowl ban and 15 ships over 3 years IMO.

86Cane

Cruising...please email me at:

canespace86@aol.com

Thank U!

Cruising

I was referring to Ohio prediction. But losing 15 schollies over 3 years is WAY harsher thn OSU or NC and makes us average for years to come. do the math on roster reduction. Can't even have injuries or we're done

The []_[]

15 over 3 is manageable. We would be at 80 a year for three years. There are teams not on probation that played below that last year. The gaturds being one of them.

UpNorthCane27

DONE? The U could never be done..... especially with Golden in Charge, and i sleep at night comfortably knowing he's the man running the ship when the penalties come down.

The []_[]

With that being said you have to recruit smart. Can't take a chance on kids that might not get in due to grades or getting in trouble. Golden signed 33 kids last cycle and only ONE did not get in.....that was not a coincidental.

Cruising

You have to be specific about roster caps. 5 over 3 means at year 4 your roster is -15. That's how it's done I think

4-Real

Why can't u guys stay positive & upbeat like UpNorth. True Cane. Swami & Ogv, u guys could learn a thing or 2 from UpNorth, u 2 Ohio!

Ohio_Cane

UF says Hill quitting not related to Miami probe http://es.pn/RoOJlH

Ohio_Cane

Papa Cane - Must Read: Dan Spiegel - Perception Is Not Reality With Miami Hurricanes. http://ow.ly/1OoADi

LB

"We're basically screwed then. Do the math on the roster size into the third & fourth year & 2-3 years thereafter. Guaranteed mediocrity for years to come."

Unrealistic.


One more bowl ban in a transitioning UM team won't hurt. We've got the foundation for the future. Other schools (not just USC) have survived worse.

Golden also has performed roster management before: at Temple and at UM (see Maryland game).

It absolutely will have a negative impact, but it's not a doom & gloom scenario. Come on.

The What

It's definitely not doom and gloom. NCAA has to play it up to the media. 2 bowl bans one served sounds much harsher than one more bowl ban. It's all about phrasing and making it look harsh. The perception is Miami deserves the death penalty. The NCAA investigation didnt reveal that. So what does the NCAA do? They put a 5 year probation (seems harsh), 2 bowl bans (seems harsh until you realize one was served), 15 schollies over 3 years (seems harsh until you realize that's 80 players for a 3 year period). It's all about making it seem like they are coming down hard to the media. Now will we get punished of course. Will it be tough, sure it will. Will it be crippling or even really harsh? NO. They couldn't get testimony from former canes. Sit back and relax. We are in good hands with golden and will be back to our rightful place in 2 years.

Go Canes

Cruising

We should get no worse than UCF sanctions. That's my opinion, not what I'm saying will happen

If we get USC type sanctions I think we struggle for years unless we can recruit like Kiffin. He may suck as a game coach, but all roster slots are brimming with 4-5*. They're winning and will be a top 5 team this year

USC didn't cooperate like we have, if we get their type sanctions or worse then emmrt and NCAA are out of control and punishing us 4 reputation

orange 'n green in the vein

Well, there's always the conductor's hat down in Carol City waiting for good old Aubrey. Enjoy the show cause label you're about to get slapped with and say hi to Black Santa for me in the unemployment line.

Maybe he can come back under his old worthless AD out in Lubbock that got this whole mess uncorked in the first place by allowing unfettered access to a pathetic midget liar who never had a dollar he actually earned to his name?

86Cane

It absolutely will have a negative impact, but it's not a doom & gloom scenario. Come on.

Posted by: LB | August 03, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Unless of course U are really a Gator fan in disguise and U WANT it to be "doom and gloom" for Miami and try to get Hurricane fans' knickers in a wad?

UpNorthCane27

USC has it easy because Cali kids dont leave for the most part and if you think about it who are they gonna play for in that state UCLA, Cal, San Diego St lol?????.... theres a reason why they load up they get all their state talent and then pick away from other states because of the hollywood vibe they got there. So Kiffin is just in the right place at the right time.

DallasTX Cane

Well hello Boys (& CGNC!). Its almost THAT TIME again - Hurricane Season!

86 - Great job as always. Thank U for all the interesting articles that helped pass the dead time of the summer.

Papa Cane - Must Read: Dan Spiegel - Perception Is Not Reality With Miami Hurricanes. http://ow.ly/1OoADi

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 03, 2012 at 10:52 AM

GREAT article. Ohio - Thanks for posting!

Biggest difference in UM & USC situations is that USC was able to basically isolate the wrong-doing (that was proved) to Reggie & his family. I don't think NCAA was able to find a lot of evidence on the coaching staff or other university employees.

Even so, I don't expect the sanctions to be incapacitating. The U has reacted perfectly & there isn't much actual evidence or proof out there beyond the midget's claims.

UpNorthCane27

^^ Well said Dallas, Well said!!

Da U N Houston

Any word on how the guys did in the testing (14 40's)? Hope everyone passed and don't have to "get up and hang with the parrots in the morning"

86Cane


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Posted by: SlingBlade | August 03, 2012 at 08:28 AM

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DallasTX Cane

How U been UpNorth? Warms my heart every August when I see Ur season prediction.

UpNorthCane27

Good Dallas loving fatherhood my daaughter is 18 months now and we bought her the Um cheerleading outfit when we were down in florida back in may....

And my prediction the same for the past 10 years um goes 12-0 and wins the ship loll!!!

hows everything with you Dallas?

DallasTX Cane

Posted by: UpNorthCane | August 03, 2012 at 11:29 AM

USC enjoys a lot of the same advantages that UM does: Great weather, large local talent pool, championship tradition, etc. They've had a lot of ups & downs also. We're just not as used to the cycles. They may be up right now, but we'll be back.

I'm excited about all the young kids. Part of me wishes "those" juniors/seniors had come back for their 4th-5th seasons, for their sake as much as ours. BUT...mostly I'm happy they're gone so the Golden Era can start in ernest and the Program can get a fresh start. Throw all the Shapiro shady BS along with the weakness of Coker & the ineptitude of Shannon overboard! Start over & resurrect Miami Football! Dam, it is time.

86Cane

Throw all the Shapiro shady BS along with the weakness of Coker & the ineptitude of Shannon overboard! Start over & resurrect Miami Football! Dam, it is time.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | August 03, 2012 at 11:49 AM

There IT is right there.

UpNorthCane27

I just hope that we get to have Golden for many years until that damn hair is jimmy johnson white loll

DallasTX Cane

Thats awesome. I really believe every man needs to have a baby girl at some point in life. Its an amazing feeling and the daddy-daughter bond is special. I bet yours is over-the-top cute in the cheerleading outfit!

I'm good. Been staying really busy, but was able to get to Destin for a week's vacation last month. Its been over a year since I made it all the way down south, so I'm due for a trip this year...I hope!

My daughter turns 13 this month (just wait for the pre-teen/teen years...Ahhhh!). She made the US Youth Soccer ODP Region 3 Player Pool this summer. Region 3 being NTX, STX, OK, AR, TN, LA, MS, AL, GA, SC, NC, and FL. So, she is thrilled as its a nice accomplishment. Hopefully she'll make the Regional team when its selected next year.

UpNorthCane27

WOW Dallas thats awesome about your daughter. Soccer is our #1 sport and what i played my whole life through college but knee injuries made me call it quits now i coach a u12B premier team thats in partnership with Brown university. Im hoping my little girl likes it and decides to play, she enjoys saying "goalllll" everytime were watching Barcelona play, she'll actually sit down and watch a full game with me which i think is a little crazy especially for her age lol.....

Ohio_Cane

1 more bowl ban in addition to one we already took, 3-5 years probation, 24 scholarship loss over 4 years.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 03, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Ohio's scenario was mos def doom & gloom

Posted by: Cruising | August 03, 2012 at 11:57 AM
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How U figure? That's not much more than what OSU got...

Cruising


1 more bowl ban in addition to one we already took, 3-5 years probation, 24 scholarship loss over 4 years.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 03, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Ohio's scenario was mos def doom & gloom

Posted by: Cruising | August 03, 2012 at 11:57 AM
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How U figure? That's not much more than what OSU got...

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 03, 2012 at 12:44 PM

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OSU: one bowl ban, 9 total scholarship lost over three years
Ohio_Cane: 2 bowl bans, 24 scholarships lost over 4 years

Next time bring some facts to the discussion.

"That's not much more than what OSU got.." Really? Lacking in credibility here.

DallasTX Cane

Thanks UpNorth! Its a rare thing to find a fanatic "American" football fan that appreciates The Beautiful Game. Its cool that U played thru college & now coach. I bet your daughter will be a great player. Its crazy how young the college recruiting starts, especially for girls. I guess since they mature faster than boys, there's no reason to wait; what U see when they are freshmen & sophomores is pretty much what U get when they're juniors/seniors. Its hard for me to believe its almost time to start thinking about college.

706cane

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Done

86Cane

Way to go 706!

j.w.

Pat Dooley - The resignation of Aubrey Hill today tells me the NCAA is about to come out with Miami ruling.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 03, 2012 at 10:12 AM
But the oracle of gloom and doom (Robinson) said it was months away from concluding. :)

nemo2002

Can anyone give us an update on our UM Olympians?

The []_[]

Test

j.w.

Nemo- aren't most in Track? Track events start today.

Cruising

Anyone that thinks the NCAA is about to ome out with their ruling doesn't know what they are talking about and is just talking out of their ...

Notice of Allegations come first. Then weeks or months later penalties announced.

People need to get their facts straight.

Dooley is a dumb Gaytor isn't he?

herbieibis

It won't be till after the bowl season before they make a ruling on us and if we go 6-6 take another ban, just incase. Will lose at least 15 ships over 3 years, I hope!

Ohio_Cane

OSU: one bowl ban, 9 total scholarship lost over three years

Ohio_Cane: 2 bowl bans, 24 scholarships lost over 4 years


"That's not much more than what OSU got.." Really? Lacking in credibility here.

Posted by: Cruising | August 03, 2012 at 01:00 PM
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3 more ships per year and 1 more bowl ban.

Really? Lacking in perspective here.

CGNC

Wow a DTC sighting!

86 - nice article - had to laugh at that pic of JJ - hair perfectly in place even after a day on the boat!

j.w.

Cruising, they could agree to a summary disposition, which would mean the NOA, response, and hearing don't happen. We don't know whether this will or won't happen, of course, but I'd argue everything UM has done points to accepting a summary disposition.

j.w.

CGNC- got the best anniversary present today- a week at the Arizona Cowboy College, a whole week of riding!!!!

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