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September 10, 2012

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CEO

NEW BLOG IS UP!

TonyCane

Just read that Robert Marve tore his ACL for the third time. Serious question...is it possible for him to get another year of eligibility given all that happened to him? Or is the 6th year it?

Montreal-Cane

Hassan no doubt we are missing Porter. He didn't practice today so he won't play vs BC.
He needs a full week of practice before he plays in a game...Hopefully he will b back for GT and the rest of the season.

TonyCane

Jack, no problem. Issue with Miami's depth is very simple, and twofold:

1) Early entries in the draft. Too many. Compare Miami to a UT and it's no comparison. Far too much experienced, talented leadership is lost to the NFL. Or just talent! Imagine if we had Duke Johnson AND Lamar Miller in the backfield. Lamar was only a sophmore.

2) One great class, and then mediocre followups. Shannon recruited a Top 5 class in 2008, then followed it with classes out of the Top 10. Al Golden has to recruit well every year and build upon this year's #10 ranked class. We can't go from #10 in 2012 to #36 in 2013, #17 in 2014, and #19 in 2015. Every year needs to have a good class, so there is no severe falloff. That's how Alabama, LSU, USC, FSU, and UT do it. Likewise that's how Miami needs it.

The old saying was Reload, not Rebuild. In this, Golden must not fail.

Panamacitycane

Man I'm so disappointed that ray ray never worked out. I looked at him as the best player coming in and was going to change this defense..just never happened...but I'll bet money we will see him in the NFL next year..and he will make a roster and depending on the team might start...that's what our players do

Montreal-Cane

Make no mistake: The NCAA is very cognizant of Shapiro’s motives to damage UM and won’t punish UM for allegations that it has not corroborated.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2012/09/more-nevin-shapiro-claims-denied-canes-dolphins-marlins-tidbits.html#storylink=cpy

Hassan

CEO I am just hopin Porter is back we sure could use him and he needs a tune up game before GT

CEO

Hassan...I'm jus sayin.

Montreal-Cane

Ray-Ray Armstrong declared ineligible by NAIA

By Michael Casagrande

Sun Sentinel

8:50 p.m. EDT, September 11, 2012

The college football career of former Miami safety Ray-Ray Armstrong appears to be over.

The NAIA officially declared the Sanford, Fla., product ineligible Tuesday after nearly a month's wait. Armstrong had been attending Faulkner University in Montgomery, Ala., after being kicked off the Miami team in late July.

According to a news release from Faulkner, the NAIA did not grant Armstrong his senior season because UM had declared him ineligible for NCAA competition.

The NAIA rule book has a stated policy on the matter:

Any student who has completed eligibility or who has been permanently banned in a given sport at any four-year institution, either NAIA-affiliated or other, shall have no eligibility remaining in that sport within the NAIA," the rule book reads. "Such a student cannot regain eligibility in that sport at an NAIA institution.

According to Faulkner, Miami tried to get Armstrong reinstated so he could play at the new school, but the NCAA ruled UM did not have that authority.

We’re disappointed in the ruling, obviously, Faulkner athletics director and head football coach Brent Barker said in the news release. We respect the great job the NAIA Eligibility Center does for our student-athletes, but we thought Ray Ray’s situation was unique and unprecedented, and deserved a positive ruling.

"I most of all hate it for him, because he has fit in so well on our campus with our student body and has really been a leader in our locker room with a lot of our younger players."

Armstrong was dismissed from the Hurricanes on July 18 after a suspension-plagued junior season. Armstrong was allegedly dishonest with the school during an internal investigation.

Lawyers representing Armstrong threatened to sue Miami for reinstatement to the program before deciding to enroll at Faulkner.

Hassan

I got it from bleacher report via usatoday my bad

Montreal-Cane

Miami Injury Report (via USAToday.com)

Hassan tell us that you did post it as a joke...

Telemaque and Ramon are not even on this list.

Seantrel is at 100%, very hungry and full to go.

Hassan

CEO they got their injury report from USA today that is not a bad source

Hassan


CEO LOL man Bleacher report is 100% they are like wikipedia.

Montreal-Cane

The NCAA heard enough lies from the rat who will spend the next 25 years in his dirty little prison cell.

Montreal-Cane

Ray-Ray Armstrong declared ineligible by NAIA

Ray Ray hire a personal trainer and get ready for the NFL combine...The only option right now.

WWIN

Ceo,

So you think we are less than Maine and UL Monroe?

CEO

Hassan...U should be BANNED for posting that FALSE injury report from the MOST unreliable source ever.

Hassan

Bruce Feldman just tweeted, "hearing Nevin Shapiro is enraged at the way the NCAA is handling the investigation, is making more allegations, most hoops based".

Hassan


Miami Injury Report (via USAToday.com)

Defensive lineman Luther Robinson was held out of the game against Kansas State for disciplinary reasons but is expected to return in Week 3.
Linebacker Gionni Paul is questionable for Saturday's game due to a knee injury.
Defensive lineman Curtis Porter is questionable due to appendix surgery.
Offensive lineman Seantrel Henderson is questionable for Week 3 due to a concussion.
Linebacker Raphael Kirby is out indefinitely due to a leg injury.


Porter might be back!!

orange 'n green in the vein

The herb in general is correct, Shannon often wouldn't blitz until a team got into field goal range usually, then he'd start to send some pressure trying to get a TFL to make the FG less likely to be good thanks to added yardage to kick it and to make the shorter passes that would be attempted have to hurry up and be accurate as well as on time to get in the endzone.

Blitz frequency is very low on my list of issues with the defensive play calling right now. The really bad game planning is way more worrisome as a fan.

Zakkee

kerfuffle lol!

Old Skool

Solar LOL

And the word after flummoxed: kerfuffle

Hassan

R.I.P all the Marines and Soldier and Airman and Seamen who died in the wars as a result of 9/11.

solarcane


Usmart


today's word you should know


process

a natural phenomenon marked by gradual changes that lead toward a particular result

tomorrow's word

flummoxed

roachcane77

sjmparman...

What's up bruh? Did something happen I didn't see?

I for one appreciate reading your posts and find them both insightful and enlightening.

Well... Good luck elsewhere if that's your desire... you'll be missed here on the Space though...

Go Canes!

The Dude

I think its a really good thing that people are so mad right now. The fans are saying this is B.S. and this staff needs to fix it now.

Felipe

^Gary Bettman, worst commissioner ever. But even a blind squirrel...

Felipe

Oh right I said a specific word that probably deleted my whole post. But more or less:

"You know what, [the fans] got an opinion. We may not agree on everything, but they care, and I'll take that...What I've always told people: If I take the ice and it's completely silent, then I'll know I'm in trouble."

re: all of us being sudden d coordinators.

ScallopHead

UTough but....... are USmart?

Future blog title?

Go Canes!!!

CEO

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Hassan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knci-3G3z9o&feature=youtu.be


Classic. Pure comedy

CEO

I have to say that after week one of the NFL season and after listening to RG III's interviews I am VERY impressed with that young man. He can be on my team anyday.

CEO

If this team can rebound and make a run in the Coastal, the KState game will mean nothing. If there is an inherent major problem with either the DC and/or Big Al's D scheme, then the KState game will be the least of our worries.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | September 11, 2012 at 06:15 PM

There IT is right there.

CEO

If you answer yes you are seriously delusional and might need to go get checked in at the nearest mental institute

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | September 11, 2012 at 05:56 PM

I just checked in and reserved a whole floor. Come on down, the meds are wicked good!

CEO

OK....so everybody knows that you show the biggest improvment from week 1 to week 2....

Do i really need to continue????

Posted by: raizecane | September 11, 2012 at 05:35 PM

No, I think that about covers it.

BigWIndyCane-Forecast1

I reserve judgment on the Canes defense until I see a few more games. Talent alone cannot win games, but you still need talent to win. Florida has all the talent they need. I do think we need more enthusiasm and players that can play fast and run to the ball knowing what their keys and assignments are. Until that happens, the Canes will not have an elite defense.

With a very inexperienced defense, loosing Cookie and Ray Ray have been huge. the DTs has failed the Canes. It might be appropriate to give some of the young DTs a shot. The Canes need some disruptive forces in the middle of the defense, and the "plug" and Pierre have simply not gotten it done. Cut back their reps, and hopefully they will play with more passion. It cannot get worse.

Perryman and Brandon have played well, but they will have to step up and be the leaders. If any DL or LB sits back and smiles as another runner goes by them, their teammates in the face and hold them "accountable." They need to get in the safeties' faces, and demand that they play better and communicate and know their keys. Sileo is right about this criticism of the players.

Golden will get it fixed

WWIN

2. F it, blitz all 11 that will get sh$# on point. Funny as sh$# that every problem is solved by wantin to blitz but we both know when they get burnt by it these peoples ignore that part. This boi been hearin this sh$# since my Butch dayz bout fans runnin the D.

3. Just blitz more and Miami will be on point lol. If you ever struggle for an answer to any questions just say blitz and you got every Miami fan on your side lol

Posted by: CEO | September 11, 2012 at 04:03 PM

My thing is this, which one looks worst, dropping back 7-8 in coverage vs 5 wr's and all of them are open anyways or blitz and have people open? At least when you blitz you have a excuse as to why people are open, he has no excuse when everybody is dropping back in coverage and everybody is still wide open

WWIN

Dallas,

From the records we've been having we shouldn't have no players even invited to the combine, we shouldn't even have players as water boys in the league from what are records indicate. So to say they are barely hanging on doesn't matter

WWIN

The man,

So you honestly think they our players have been going thru the motions since 2002???

Let me explain. The players have more to lose and gain than the coaches. The coaches may get fired but at least they already had a contract in the first, the players have no money and are playing for the money, now the nfl is the other way around. These are the same players that most of the top programs wanted but all of a sudden they get to Da U and they don't want to play anymore?? I guarantee you that Maine and UL Monroe would take anyone of our defensive players in a heart beat and they would start. Look at Arthur Brown, he wasn't smart enough here but he looks pretty smart now

DallasTX Cane

Very few college players actually go on to NFL careers; even fewer have good or great NFL careers.

Truth is the U Pipeline has dried up. Truth is it was once so amazing compared to the overall statistics that our collective expectations are warped. Truth is that a run of players like we had from 1999-2005 is a rarity. Truth is the best players from that era are starting to retire or getting close to it and the recent guys are for the most part either barely hanging onto a roster spot or getting playing time but are nothing special.

Truth is U gotta have both good coaching and talent to win. The coaching is just different when U have amazing talent like Coker inherited or a bare cupboard like Shannon got.

If this team can rebound and make a run in the Coastal, the KState game will mean nothing. If there is an inherent major problem with either the DC and/or Big Al's D scheme, then the KState game will be the least of our worries.

THE MAN

Willie Will,

Yes, I'm saying it's partly if not mostly on the players. What does "talent" mean anyway? It's helluva lot more than talent that wins ball games. Those teams you mentioned did their thing because they out worked the other team and wanted it more plain and simple. Talent is meaningless if they don't give a crap when they are on the field.

WWIN

Please note

Once the players are dun wit the program MOST of them go on to better careers in the nfl

Once the coaches leave MOST (probably all) have been demoted

So there's your argument of Coaching vs Talent

WWIN

For all people saying its the players

Ask yourself how did UL Monroe get er dun vs a higher ranked #8 Arkansas team? How did Maine get er dun vs BC?

Ask yourself do we have less talent than either one of those teams? If you answer yes you are seriously delusional and might need to go get checked in at the nearest mental institute

WWIN

Doesn't anyone here think that KState being a legit top ten team has anything to do with the beating?

Posted by: calGary Cane | September 11, 2012 at 04:06 PM

Ask me again at the END of the season.

Posted by: CEO | September 11, 2012 at 04:10 PM

Exactly bcuz they won't be in the top ten

raizecane

Hey, there is good news.....Apple to have the iPhone 5 unvailing tomorrow......wohoooo

Felipe

It is worth noting that Shields helped himself in the KC game, but was beaten pretty soundly a couple of times against SF. I'm not sure what GB is going to do with him, but it isn't all sugar and honey over here for him I'll say that much.

Felipe

BTW,

People can stop using Sam Shields as a gold standard exemplar for failed coaching. The guy has regressed and is fighting to maintain the Dime CB job once a rookie and 2nd year player come back from injuries for the Pack. Jarrett Bush is the nickel guy.

He didn't know jack when he came into the NFL, but it appears that he isn't getting it now again, either.

raizecane

OK....so everybody knows that you show the biggest improvment from week 1 to week 2....

Do i really need to continue????

Felipe

Saw Marve go down, didn't look as bad to me at the time but I flipped the channel before the replay. Best wishes.

MassivCane

Poor kid, never could get anything going.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8366721/purdue-boilermakers-robert-marve-torn-acl-indefinitely

herbieibis

Blitzing ain't going to help our cause. We have to be the worst blitzing, no disguising a blitz team I've seen. Shannon never did blitz. He let the front 4 boys take care of the QB But wiff our peekaboo front 4 playing hide and not seeking we can't do that. Speaking of offense, when's the last time you saw a 20 yard crossing route or slant? Has the fullback even been on the field? We just need to go to a 3-4 defense, it's got to be better with this personel than the 4-3.

Zakkee

exactly THE MAN, the culture has to change from the top down. I agree with that post^^

orange 'n green in the vein

KSU ended last season ranked #15 and #16 in both polls, that's not top 10. The one time they did get ranked in the top 10 last year they lost at home to #11 Oklahoma by a score of 58-17.

Next limp argument for D'No, please?

THE MAN

Zakee,

Again what does how players do in the NFL have to do with anything? That is not my concern. That is just icing on the cake if they leave UM and do well in the NFL. My concern is why are they not playing to their fullest in college? That cannot be 100% contributed to just coaching. I think it's their commitment or lack there of. Too many kids think college is a stepping stone to the NFL, well several from Miami last year learned the hard way that's not the case. Too many of these kids think they can get to the NFL on their "talent" alone and just coast. Again like someone else said earlier that talent may get you your tryout or look, but hard work and commitment makes you stay for he long haul, just ask Ray Lewis...

CaneRock


“If it’s a big part of their offense, then I’ll call defenses against it that I know will stick,” says Mark D’Onofrio, the defensive coordinator at the University of Miami. “If it’s 25 percent of someone’s offense out of 21 personnel, I may have five calls that I’ll play out of it. I just won’t have one bunch check. I want kids to play fast. If you’re getting a ton of it, you have to have certain calls. But if it shows up five times in a four game break down, I’ll only have one check based on what they are doing. If you’re getting a lot of open side run game than I want to send a pressure to the open side or play an eight man front. If they run a bunch toss scheme, I want cloud and corner force. If it’s an open side run team I want to have an eight man front or blitz the open side. If they want to run those intermediate pass concepts like the Spacing and Rub than you want some sort of man principle. It all depends on what they major in.”

Zakkee

good post Ohio.

THE MAN: Our players are being chosen, picked up and successfully making teams in the NFL despite the amount of emotion they played with at UM. Thats the bottom-line in their eyes.

The league doesn't respect the coaching thats taken place at the U, so all of our kids get a pass until their coaches see them in person.

The NFL loves coaching up the U's talent for them.

Brevardcane

Yeah we desperately need some continuity amongst the coaching staff. If for no other reason than to rebuild the relationships with HS coaches and their players.

Jack

Tony, thanks for response bro. I am just tired of this! I just did not realize we were starting all over and "rebuilding" again....

Ohio_Cane

Doesn't anyone here think that KState being a legit top ten team has anything to do with the beating?

Posted by: calGary Cane | September 11, 2012 at 04:06 PM
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I do, but I'm probably in the minority.

I look at it like this: We got blown out by a top 10 team that beat us last year that returned almost every starter. Our team, on the other hand, was a team that returned almost no starters.

Should we have gotten blown out? No.
Should the players have played better? Yes.
Should coaches be blamed partially? Yes.
Should inexperience b blamed partially? Yes.

Should we FIRE a coach 14 games into his career here, installing a NEW system with NEW players? Absolutely not.

CaneRock

For those of ya'll that don't think it's personnel, why are AJ Highsmith and Deon Bush on the first team now?

j.w.

BLH, I wasn't comparing defense to defense. But so what? Miller was the Coordinator, left after the 99 season, replaced by Schiano for the 2000 season, and finally Shannon.
Look at the Offensive talent on that 1997 team. Note the struggles they had that year, and the year after, and the year after that, and remember that Coker was the OC for all those teams (and for the 2000 team.) Amazing what experience and depth can do for you.

DallasTX Cane

Hey CEO, great work on the articles - all summer and especially in the lead up to season start.

don't forget...this is just football. we all love it and have mad passion for The U. but in the big scheme, its just football. people deal with much more important things all day every day, plus...1.2 billion Indians couldn't care less

Speaking of bigger issues - RIP those lost on 9/11 and those lost & wounded protecting us.

BLH

Posted by: j.w. | September 11, 2012 at 03:43 PM

Oh no you didn't!!

With NoD coaching that D they would have given up 100 to FSU.

Plus you whiffed on that example. Look up the DC on that team and tell me what happened to him, even after the next years improvement. Go ahead, take three guesses.

Can you say, Bill Miller?

calGary Cane

Posted by: CEO | September 11, 2012 at 04:10 PM

You sound tired! LOL

CEO

Doesn't anyone here think that KState being a legit top ten team has anything to do with the beating?

Posted by: calGary Cane | September 11, 2012 at 04:06 PM

Ask me again at the END of the season.

DallasTX Cane

Who was our DC before the Golden regime? Lovett? Did we like him, I honestly can't remember

Posted by: CGNC | September 11, 2012 at 03:58 PM

Young was here for a couple of seasons. We liked him, until we didn't. For coordinators, I don't think it really matters who the guy is or what he does and says; the product on the field is proof enough and the new staff (like the last 6 years) doesn't have any skins on the wall to temper the fans.

U know...a whole bunch of The Legion used to criticize Randy during his last couple years as DC.

CEO

Who was our DC before the Golden regime? Lovett? Did we like him, I honestly can't remember.

Posted by: CGNC | September 11, 2012 at 03:58 PM

I don't recall who WAS but I know who WILL be our next DC: CGNC or OGV. I'm too busy.

Ohio_Cane

Who was our DC before the Golden regime? Lovett? Did we like him, I honestly can't remember

Posted by: CGNC | September 11, 2012 at 03:58 PM
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Ya, Lovett replaced Bill Young when he left for OK St in 2009.

calGary Cane

Doesn't anyone here think that KState being a legit top ten team has anything to do with the beating?

DallasTX Cane

And regarding "talent": Being elite in grade school or middle school doesn't mean U will be elite in high school. Bring an elite HS player doesn't mean your success will carry over into college. Very few elite college players become elite or HOF professionals.

The fact that FL is a great incubator of football "talent" is great for the state. It doesn't inherently mean squat for UM.

Tiger Woods wasn't only amazingly talented, he also out-worked every single other pro on the circuit. Dozens or hundreds of guys have major talent; none worked harder than Tiger. Same goes for Michael Irvin - no one outworked Playmaker in practice (and that goes for his NFL career even after he was a star and all-pro). We can all come up with hundreds of like examples.

"Talent" only gets U an invite. Hard work and experience gets U a place at the table.

CEO

CORNBREAD BE CREEPIN...

1. Yoooo bruh you know this boi always tell peoples down here read the Space but read comments at your own risk. Well this crazyazz Newt asked me to read the last few dayz comments by the Spacers. Yooooo this boi didnt know you had so many DCs up in there lol. How the f they got time to write when they gameplannin for their games? lol.

2. F it, blitz all 11 that will get sh$# on point. Funny as sh$# that every problem is solved by wantin to blitz but we both know when they get burnt by it these peoples ignore that part. This boi been hearin this sh$# since my Butch dayz bout fans runnin the D.

3. Just blitz more and Miami will be on point lol. If you ever struggle for an answer to any questions just say blitz and you got every Miami fan on your side lol

CEO

WURD UP!

1. Another tip that for some reason aint bein done is line up Pierre between guard and tackle and move The Plug between center and guard. That right there frees Zel and EJ44 up also tackle will have to take 3GC 1 on 1 and Pierre would only face the guard.

2. Coaches been linin them boiz right in front of OL which makes it simple on who they blockin. Goonette needs to put that scheme in very soon lol

CGNC

Who was our DC before the Golden regime? Lovett? Did we like him, I honestly can't remember

CGNC


If you all are right about the coaching staff...we are screwed.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | September 11, 2012 at 03:52 PM

There it is right there. Let's hope that is not the case

DallasTX Cane

Ed Reed and a whole bunch of stud players came back in'01 because they had unfinished business. Guys that were 1st and 2nd round locks.

Last year a bunch of guys left, most of whom weren't even considered 3rd or 4th round prospects. Think if that group had taken on a positive attitude and work ethic and personal responsibility... I'm not going to say this year's team would all of a sudden be top 10, but their choice to cut-n-run instead of stay and help the team, IMHO, speaks volumes to their group character and the attitude that has destroyed the "once proud" U. With them I think we would have been a legit conf title contender. Without them we have to hope the newbies grow up and get better...quickly.

If you all are right about the coaching staff...we are screwed.

CEO

OGV and CGNC...thanks for the feedback. I needed that!

CEO

People need to remember this is game 2 of year 2 of a four year re-building project.

Posted by: Gin & Tonic | September 11, 2012 at 11:28 AM

There IT is right there.

CEO

I never thought LOSING could bring out such GREAT blogging in everyone. Now if only winning could do that we would be just fine.

Winter Haven...Fort Pierce...Ft Lauderdale.

How are my peeps in the 954?

j.w.

BLH, what do these players have in common?
Santana Moss
Al Blades
Edgerrin James
Andre King
Reggie Wayne
Duane Starks
Dan Morgan
Daniel "Bubba" Franks
Ryan Clement
James Jackson
Nate Webster
Leonard Meyers
Answer: All were Miami Hurricanes in 1997. Record that year? 5-6. Everyone on that list, except for Blades and Clement, was drafted and played in the NFL.That team could only score 12 against Arizona State (at home), lost 47-0 to Florida State, and ended the year losing 33-13 to Syracuse. And we all know how the coaching staff for the 1997 team turned out.

If you want an objective look at talent on this Miami team, look at ESPN's "Draftable DL, LB, DB Cheatsheets." Miami has 0 DL listed, 1 LB (Buchannan, #31), and 3 DB(McGee #21, Telemaque #34, Armstrong #39). At least McGee is still around this week.
Or, look at any of the pre-season All-ACC teams, I think we had 1 player in the ACC media poll (Botts).
Bottom line, I just don't see this talent that I read about. We have potential talent and several very good young players.
The 1997 team should show you that you can't just have a few good young players if you want to win, it takes depth and experience to beat good teams (and K State is a good team). D'Onofrio and the D Staff have turned McGee into a letigimate player, he was terrible under the previous staff. Be patient.

BLH

I'm not worried because his wife and kids like him.

The fans can go pound sand.

.
If it continues like this, or gets worse, there'll be so much noise, including the booing from a 90% empty Sun Life, that the AD and president will be forced to act

THE MAN

First off, I agree the scheme is weak and the coaching is suspect, but there is NO scheme that lets WR, TE and RB run wide open and uncovered because that is EXACTLY what has been happening the last 2 games. So the scheme is to let the TE be completely wide open every time? At what point are the players not getting it or missing their responsibility? Do the coaches teach them to take horrible angles that give up HUGE gains? Like someone else said no matter what scheme is used if the players were talented it wouldn't matter and I tend to agree with that. Was there a defensive scheme in 2000-2003? No, they lined up in the base defense pretty much every play and played straight up.

BigTimeCane

I'm assuming he did at Temple what he did here, which is to bring in a whole bunch of new players and teach them from scratch.

Gin & Tonic


Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | September 11, 2012 at 03:18 PM

How many years were they in his program / system?

BigTimeCane

This is going to be a debate all season lol. We are gonna give up big numbers to BCC and its just gonna get worse and worse until the defense improves which I don't think is gonna happen this year.
I'm willing to wait and give them a chance even though I dont like what i see and i dont like the numbers Ohio provided.

CGNC

See Ball, Get Ball

CoCane

It's hard for any player, in any sport to get or remain motivated when what they're coached to do gets them massacred in competition. REPEATEDLY! Duuuuuuh...

BLH

With the talent we have right now, and Peterson, we'd win the Coastal every year.

Again, I'm not saying we have NC talent, but don't we have enough talent to match freaking MAINE on defense. If you can't see we have a coaching problem, you're kidding yourself

BigTimeCane

Honestly I think the numbers Ohio provided tell the whole story depending on how you want to see it (great find by the way).
If you are anti dnofrio then you see them as negative.
If you are pro or just want to give it time then you can take some positives from those numbers.
If those numbers are correct, then there will be improvement next year. The question is will it be enough improvement to keep the fans from flipping out and demanding a firing. I dont think it will. I think D'No will be fired after next season. From those numbers Year 1=terrible defense, Year 2=Average defense, Year 3=Average Defense, Year 4=Slightly better than Average.
Question is, if we are not dominating through offense is that good enough for this fanbase.

I think not.

orange 'n green in the vein

I'd just like to get the fact on here that in '09 Boise State had the fewest scholarship seniors in the entire game on their roster, a whole four (4!) of them. They went undefeated. Of course, Chris Petersen much, much > than Al Golden IMO.

Jiggafras

Posted by: THE MAN | September 11, 2012 at 02:58 PM

Who on Miane's defense strike fear into anyone, they held BC to half the yards and 50% completion. Who on BC's offense strike fear into anyone. We do not need 100 5 stars to stop the teams we play. We need more talent to compete for titles but definately no to stop the opponents we have played so far

BigTimeCane

LOL at comparing Bama in Temple, regardless of who the coach is.

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Ohio I wasnt comparing Temple and Bama. I was comparing the end result. Temple was playing mostly MAC teams with a Penn State and another top program thrown in. Against their equals, Temple's numbers are terrible. They were a MAC team and giving up 318 YPG at your peak is not good in the least bit.

Now Alabama was playing their equals except for the occasioinal DII school. Against their peers Bama was dominating.

So by the logic above, Miami will be averaging around 300 YPG at their peak and allowing almost 20 points per game against their peers.

I am comparing the end result. And the end result of those numbers are not pretty. Whether its Miami, Alabama, Temple, Louisiana Monroe, etc. The defensive scheme is poor and the fact that Al Golden doesnt see that shocks me.
And if you take NFL drafted players, Temple should have dominated even more defensively. They had a Round 1 pick in the draft. Those numbers are not a good sign.

THE MAN

I'm still trying to grasp this whole UM is very talented, but they aren't coached very well idea. Isn't it a combination of the players and coaches? Who on offense or defense srikes fear in anyone regardless of who the coach is? Perryman, maybe Chickillo on defense and Duke (one game) on offense. Who else? The bottomline for years now is the players are playing with no passion or emotion. Who's responsibility is that? I would say it's the players. If they aren't motivated for themselves to be the best they can be it doesn't matter how fast they are or how big and strong or who the coach is...

BLH


The point: Its about the Jimmy and Joes, not the X's and O's.

Posted by: j.w. | September 11, 2012 at 02:08 PM

Trite meaningless sayings aside, nobody says we're overflowing with experienced talent, no not at all.

I'm just saying we have enough talent to stop below average (BC) or average (KSU) teams from eating us up on defense. Did you see how Maine's defense did against BC. That should tell you everything about how bad our defensive coaching and scheming is. Because I know we have more talent than Maine.

As far as this being Golden's defensive scheme, who knows, I'm not there at the meetings, but that could also be Golden covering for his college roommate.

Either way the results don't lie. It sucks.

Alberto

How about you compare Golden´s Defense to Miamis 2000-2002? WARNING....You may wanna puke.

Jiggafras

I hear is one stat that should dispell all the comparisons between Temple and Miami, since No'D has ben here, teams combined to complete 68% of their passes against us. LOL we are waiting to play like Temple lol. I really don't believe what i'm hearing. This is a staff that returned everyone

orange 'n green in the vein

In that case Zakkee, you've got two choices under the Golden regime at UM;

UNC last year with an interim coach, who now is at OSU as you know, was a 2 1/2 point favorite at home.

USF was a 1 point favorite at home in a game I took off from while they were icing Wieclaw to get to the other side of town to watch the NHL game starting in half an hour.

Yeah, I'm not impressed either. I seem to say that a lot these last two years.

Ohio_Cane

Bama AND Temple ^^^

Ohio_Cane

LOL at those stats. Lets look at Alabamas Defensive rankings then lets laugh at DNofrio's defense.

Posted by: BigTimeCane | September 11, 2012 at 02:28 PM
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LOL at comparing Bama in Temple, regardless of who the coach is.

BigTimeCane

D'Onofrio at Temple YPG Allowed - 2006: 452.4 yards, 2007: 363.4 yards, 2008: 388 yards, 2009: 335.7 yards, 2010: 317.7 yards.

D'Onofrio at Temple Points Allowed - 2006: 41.3 pts (Last in CFB), 2007: 26.3 pts, 2008: 23.1 pts, 2009: 21.7 pts, 2010: 19.1 pts.

LOL at those stats. Lets look at Alabamas Defensive rankings then lets laugh at DNofrio's defense.

Under Smart's tutelage, the 2011 defense led the nation in all five major categories including total defense (183.6 ypg), scoring defense (8.2 ppg), rushing defense (72.2 ypg), passing defense (111.5 ypg) and pass efficiency defense (83.69 rating).

Old Skool

Professional wrestling commentator Jerry Lawler suffered a heart attack and collapsed at the announcer's table during a World Wrestling Event on Monday night ...

That must have taken some really sharp medical personnel to determine he wasn't faking it.

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