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October 08, 2012

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Old Skool

Yeah Baby

raizecane

Good Morning......

raizecane

Kudos to Eric Winston for blasting the KC fans for cheering when Matt Cassel got knocked out of the game.

As a paying customer, you have the right to cheer and boo, but to cheer when someone gets hurt is classless.

86Cane

Check out the young kid in the middle of the second photo from the top. Oh to be young again!

Tsully76

Great stuff Canespacers, exactly raizecane. Let's go Canes, Beat UNC.

raizecane

I dont know if anyone else noticed this, but you can see that AG is trying to build mental toughness to this team.

A prefect example was Saturday night. The ND coach is wearing a thick jacket and gloves and Coach Golden would have not of that. TRUST THE PROCESS!!!!!

tjl3909

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/153/north-carolina-tar-heels

Heels

pbcfrcane13

Yea buddy made a post...man it was cold! Had a great showing in Chicago was great to walk around and ever few minutes hear a go canes. Saturday is big and should be fun lots of points by both teams.

86Cane

The latest Miami Hurricanes depth chart released Monday features a handful of updates on the defensive side of the ball.

Redshirt freshman Corey King, who made his career-first start at DT against Notre Dame, is penciled in again as one of the two starting defensive tackles. The other DT is sophomore Olsen Pierre, who missed the Notre Dame game due to injury.

Sophomore LB Gionni Paul is listed at one of the outside linebackers; the one-time ACC Linebacker of the Week started against the Fighting Irish. Junior CB Ladarius Gunter, senior CB Brandon McGee, freshman S Deon Bush and redshirt junior S AJ Highsmith are listed as the starting members in the secondary.

Season and single-game tickets for the 2012 football season are available online, by phone at 1-800-GO-CANES (1-305-284-2263) or in-person at the Miami Athletics Ticket Office, now located on the first level at BankUnited Center.

For the latest information on Miami Hurricanes Football, follow @HurricaneSports on Twitter and the official blog for Hurricanes Football, www.theufootball.com.

Account Deleted

One game season for the U at this point.

As a fan lets keep it real. We've got about the worst D in Div 1, which probably won't get any better given the schedule ahead. So it's up to Morris and the O to carry us the rest of the way (if they can). That's a lot to ask, but sat night Morris sure showed he's got the ability. We know Duke, James the OL and WR's can get it done as well. They'll have some ups, downs, drops, and thrills, but we're pretty much a one sided team.

I won't mention the kicking game. FG's have become an adventure, and we rarely get a chance to return a punt (gee, wonder why). Good news is we're getting very good at KO returns!

A win this week puts us in position to finish strong and a chance at the division and conference. My guess from here on out is that we need to score a bunch to win.

A loss, esp similar to this past week, and we can start looking ahead to next season.....

Lingering question...if the D doesn't improve, and AG doesn't fire No'D during the season what happens after the last game? Does he bring him back next year?? If not, and the argument is that college coaches don't get fired during the season, then we're sure to have him for the 2013 year as well.

I'd offer that if AG decides to keep No'D after this season, and 2013 turns out the same, then neither will be here for 2014.....

Ohio_Cane

Papa Cane - Recruiting Update: 2013 4-Star DE Tim Williams, 6'4" and 230 lbs, says that Miami is #1 on his list & has a great bond with coaches

LaQuinton

Golden supports d'no not because thats his bf for 25 years.. He supports him because he knows how young this team is and also this is Al goldens system and he believes in it !

86Cane

LTCF...I think D'No stays until the end of the season and if things get better then he stays. If they do not improve then he goes. If he stays I think Barrow leaves for a DC job somewhere else. If D'No goes then I think Michael Barrow is promoted to DC.

UMike

I think we have more than capable lb's and secondary right now..young, but talented...but the dl is the real issue and it doesn't matter who the coordinator is to a certain extent..need the dl to improve

86Cane

UMike...agree 100%.

Ohio_Cane

Miami-Florida State kicking off at 8 on ABC.

canesteeler

To hell with the excuse we are young. The shit happening on the defensive side of the ball is a down right fuc--ing joke. The scheme is horrible if we are going to give up 500 yards every damn game it is time to change things. UM is ranked 118 in defense out of 120 teams. Young my ass, this is horrible football. If guys are going to miss assignments I would rather they do it being aggresive rather than sitting back and being punching bags. Several ND players are quoted saying the Canes gave up in the second half. Also AG it is time to make a change at kicker. How many more does he have to miss before you say next. I will be in the stadium this weekend but damn it is tough spending my money on this shit!

canesteeler

I feel better now.

canesteeler

P Dorsett keep your head up and come out this weekend in beast mode!

86Cane

Miami-Florida State kicking off at 8 on ABC.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 08, 2012 at 12:02 PM

That is GOOD news!

j.w.

Thanks for the photos, guys- wish the trip turned out better for you, but appreciate the updates and info as always.

Ohio_Cane

It cracks me up that a lot of the people saying "Fire Golden", "Fire No'D", etc are the ones who predicted our Canes would be 1-5 or 2-4 at this point in the schedule.

NEWSFLASH: Canes are 4-2 and 3-0 in the ACC. Careful on jumping ship so soon.

Ohio_Cane

PS - Am I happy with the defense?

Absolutely NOT!

Am I ready to request the heads of coaches or players that have been together for 1 1/2 years?

Absolutely NOT!

Tsully76

Exactly OhioCane, Indeed 86 and UMike. That's good to have have back 2 back night games home games against FSU at 8pm and Virginia Tech at 7:30. Gonna miss my Canespace fam this Saturday at Sun Life. See u for FSU. Go Canes, beat UNC.

86Cane

Ohio...I appreciate and respect your unwavering Hurricane fandom but c'mon man U can't ignore what you see with your own eyes and what the stats reflect.

While I am also NOT calling for coaches heads you have to admit that this defense is unacceptable. Something has to be done to make it better (I hope!) or make changes after this season (I hope not).

Being young and the coaches only being in place for 1 1/2 years is reason for Miami's defnse to not be that good right now. But they are beyond "not good" (ranked 25-75) they are awful (ranked 118) and may continue to cost UM games if nothing improves or changes.

86Cane

NEWSFLASH: Canes are 4-2 and 3-0 in the ACC. Careful on jumping ship so soon.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 08, 2012 at 12:24 PM

THIS^^^^

I was thinking 4-2 right now with the schedule the way it was. I though UM would lose to KSU, ND and FSU and finish 9-3.

But with this defense I am thinking more like 8-4 or 7-5. Now I am NOT changing my prediction of 9-3 to start the season because it is still possible, just not likely.

Zakkee

I was at the game (still in Chicago now), I was in an all ND section with one other Cane dad with his boy and girl and we had the whole section scared before kickoff. Everyone fears Us and its just sad that we aren't who they expect Us to be anymore.

Their fans were scared and expecting to get beat (our mystique never leaves people's consciousness--but its definitely fading. They couldn't believe our performance and even after the game they didn't taunt or talk smack like another poster said the other day.

I talked to Dorsett, his mom and dad for 30 minutes after the game and he was crying. BeeriCane talked alot of ish on game night and somewhat rightfully so (he had a bad game), but calling yourself prophetic about his benching, like you predicted his bad performance was just ridiculous. Everything you said was obvious to everyone. I'm gong to hold you to it though, because I can't remember ever having a WR at UM that had the combination of speed and route running that he has this early in his career. He routinely burns upperclass corners and safeties as a sophomore--what is he going to be like as a senior? Let me make a true prediction--Dorsett will break several UM records and deserve to win (we know know how this goes for UM kids) before he leaves UM. If he, Chick, and Denzel stay until seniors they'll compete for a ship in '15.

UM has talent, our culture is effed up from the top down and thats why the kids keep leaving. Every UM recruiting class that stays 4 years together and are properly developed should compete for a ship.

Saw Donna Shalala and wanted to say something soo bad! Art Kehoe had on no sleeves the whole night and was visibly pissed afterwards--he is our coach of the year! O-line was lights out!

Met my brother Hassan we walked and talked for over an hour and caught a cab together. What a good guy, one of the highlights of my trip!

Canes were DEEP in the city this weekend--still seeing them now. We DEF represented aside from the field.

ND was not that good we were just awful. The 10 yard cushions negated the blitz calls--a kid could see that--so No'D needs to go now!

It WAS NOT as cold as expected during the game--so that cold talk is not any excuse--please do not honor it.

I told every player with Alonzo Highsmith at my side that this isn't over the ACC is ours and next time we see them--they'll be smiling again!

Stephen Morris was cheesing after the game, has groupies--he thinks he's a celebrity lol! Corey King was pissed. Seantrel was pissed. Chick looked embarrassed. I hollered at Fentress--he's my size. Paul is too. Denzel is huge but my height as well (sure shot NFLer).

Golden spoke to no one, boarded the bus, flipped open a laptop and began to go over film vigorously with a notepad--he never looked up once--he was focused but pissed.

Duke is solid, I jabbed his chest when we spoke and it felt like I punch a brickwall no lie. My hand was rejected.

Still had a blast!

Tsully76

Great point 86. My goals for this year ACC Coastal Champs, 8-4. Anything else above is chilli sauce. Anything less is horse piss.

CoCane

I wish D'No could be fired right now but that won't happen. But he should be fired at the end of the season. No defense should ever be schemed to line the CB's & LB's so far off of the ball. IF it is Golden's system, he needs throw that shyt in the garbage immediately after the season. Then go get an aggressive quality DC. I don't know if Barrow is ready to be a DC but his unit is the most impressive on the defense. Perryman & Johnson are monsters. They bring the pain out there. As for the DT's. Robinson is obviously better than the other guys. It's a shame he's not starting. CURTIS PORTER PLEASE

NativeCane


We will be there:

OGV
Old Skool
OcalaCane
86Cane

Who got next?

Posted by: 86Cane | October 07, 2012 at 08:55 PM

Waiting on work schedule and unfortunately will be last minute. Will know friday if I can come.
Gotta make hay while the sun shines!

Go Canes!!!

CoCane

I would bet my freedom that Tracy Howard would be playing better in bump & run coverage. That's his specialty coming out of high school. I just don't understand bringing in players to run a system that contridicts their skill set. WTF

Zakkee

Biletnikoff for Dorsett '14.

UMike

Ohio...I see your point..and kinds feel the same...but even with the young guys...no way we should be 118 in d. If the dl can't get it don't it is on the d coach to fix that or scheme around it...we have great lbs imo..and a solid young secondary...but d"no may have to go..imo..i

Zakkee

Watch what he does to our ACC foes the rest of the year--including FSU.

Wieclaw is the one who needs to sit or receive more criticism.

Dorsett said he was losing the ball in the lights and he couldn't see it until it was right up on him. I heard him but...you know lol!

He's extremely upset with himself.

tjl3909

Satana Moss missed a sure TD thrown right in his hands vs FSU when he was a freshman at the OB-he recovered ok

orange 'n green in the vein

Every guy who came from Philly with MAC man isn't working out.

Every guy MAC man hired from outside Philly is.

Sounds like the problems came from Philly with MAC man but since he performed MIRACLES getting to that toilet bowl there's going to be no change and UM will continue to struggle to get to .500 on the season.

I'm sure MAC man's OK'ing another soft zone based gameplan with lots of engaging and occupying the opposing lineman from the DL today for Saturday. Hey, it worked occasionally one year at Temple right, so Larry Fedora can't possibly crack 600 yards against it despite a year and half of showing otherwise at Miami, right?

Nomad

ACC Fottball remains awful ... read more ...http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/acc-football-remains-awful/2012/10/07/4192bb38-103a-11e2-bb5e-492c0d30bff6_story.html

CGNC

86! GReat on the orchids, I love orchids. Wait till I relocate I will start growing them too.

To everyone who went to the game thank you for repping us, the U and the players and for the pics.

CGNC

zakkee, when I watched it on TV it looked like he lost the ball in the lights.

Ohio_Cane

I'm not saying it's not awful defense. It is. I'm also not saying I'm happy where we are. I'm not. Not even close.

I'm saying pre-season, aside from a few optimists, the best predictions were .500 or barely over that.

Right now, we're 1st in the ACC at 3-0.

Last year, we were close to last in the ACC at this point, at 1-2.

Obviously, TONS of things need fixed. Especially on defense. What are those things? I don't know them all. I do stand by what I said Saturday night. Telemaque can't graduate fast enough.

86Cane

1. Met my brother Hassan we walked and talked for over an hour and caught a cab together. What a good guy, one of the highlights of my trip!

2. ND was not that good we were just awful. The 10 yard cushions negated the blitz calls--a kid could see that--so No'D needs to go now!

3. I told every player with Alonzo Highsmith at my side that this isn't over the ACC is ours and next time we see them--they'll be smiling again!

4. Golden spoke to no one, boarded the bus, flipped open a laptop and began to go over film vigorously with a notepad--he never looked up once--he was focused but pissed.

5. Still had a blast!

Posted by: Zakkee | October 08, 2012 at 01:08 PM

1. True dat! Hassan is way cool.

2. Sad but true. New scheme or new results are needed. Maybe they mix it up for the ACC games coming up in a row now?

3. I sure hope so. Our goals are still reachable for the ACC Coastal and to me 8-4 seems realistic.

4. Golden has much work to do, no time to chat or play nice with the fans. He knows he has to win and win big and soon (2013).

5. Happy for you. Way to represent!

Ohio_Cane

Call it a silver lining if U want, but the 2 teams that beat us are currently ranked #6 and #7 in the country.

USAFCane


Call it a silver lining if U want, but the 2 teams that beat us are currently ranked #6 and #7 in the country.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 08, 2012 at 02:19 PM


how many others can say that? Still a beat down by both not great. Personally, think KSU is legit top 10, ND overated, yes even with that beat down.

Ohio_Cane

Al Groh out as defensive coordinator at Georgia Tech.

Surprise, Surprise.

dj moonbat

I'm not saying it's not awful defense. It is. I'm also not saying I'm happy where we are. I'm not. Not even close.

[. . .]

I'm saying pre-season, aside from a few optimists, the best predictions were .500 or barely over that.


Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 08, 2012 at 02:08 PM


The offense has exceeded expectations. If it had not, we would be 0-6 or 1-5.

And we still have to win some games to finish over .500. (Hell, I can't even think of Duke as a gimme this year.)

I cannot recall seeing ANY lesser college defense, ever. They're almost completely incompetent.

Ohio_Cane

I'm waiting for the "Hire Al Groh" comments... Lol

herbieibis

The defense is going to stink the rest of the year and there is no waver wire help. It's time to quit settling for mediocre DLinemen, However you can coach average linemen to at least play above average and we aren't even doing that.
The average stars:
Rogers
Cain
Gaines
Robinson
Telemaque
Gunter
Smith
Armbrister
Cornelious
Davenport
These guys would be at best back-ups anywhere else, Maybe! All have started at one point on our anemic defense.
These guys have a chance to be good:
Bush
Perrymen
Kirby
Johnson
Chick
Pierre
Grimble
Finnie
Howard
Jenkins
Moore
Hamilton
Ivery
All these dudes are either frosh or Sophs and this is where our talent is with these guys and they're having to go to the school of hard knocks. These guys represent our defense, scrubs, subs & pups w/potential.
I'll have to admit, I don't see a game, with maybe the exception of S. Fla, that we aren't going to get torched. The rest of these teams we play all have veteran QB's playing who can throw and we all ready see what our rush defense looks like. Honestly you can't tell me we are in the bottom 5 worst defenses in the country, this has to be historic, we are even worst than the MAC teams.
DENO it don't take a rocket scientist to figure out what you're doing ain't working and it's your job to figure this mess out you created. We need 2 more wins and will thank you very much and wish you good luck next year in your search for other employment!

canezilla


Miami-Florida State kicking off at 8 on ABC.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 08, 2012 at 12:02 PM

That is GOOD news!

Posted by: 86Cane | October 08, 2012 at 12:12 PM
THATS GREAT NEWS!!!

WWIN

Why we don't play press coverage no more! That's all we did man! Smh we will bounce back next week though #ISTANDBYTHEU -- DeMarcus Van Dyke (@D_VanDyke8)

WWIN

I'm waiting for the "Hire Al Groh" comments... Lol

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 08, 2012 at 03:03 PM

Hire Al Groh

dj moonbat

Didn't Golden and D'Onofrio make their bones under Al Groh?

usagainsttheworld

No d-line, no defense.

herbieibis

Golden stated on Canesport he wishes he had a man on the defensive line, you and all the canes nation both! We got King, Moore & Ivery all standing at 6'1 300 or so pounds, how can they find the QB, when they can't see over the offensive line. Flip flopping the depth chart ain't helping either. Al, if you want men, then dammit recruit them. 6'3 or more. Height, speed and size, that's the ticket.
My early prediction for UNC, 45-34. UNC amazes, over 600 yds in total "O" but self destucts because of To'S.
Speaking of Weiclaw, since he is a senior, he'll be gone it's time to let Goudis, start doing the kicking and get him ready for next year.

The Dude

The Al Groh "philosophy" hasn't even worked for Al Groh. End this now. Get Greg Williams.

orange 'n green in the vein

Wait, you mean that after three years Groh couldn't get his soft cushion scheme to work at GT either? Shocking.

Oh and this is the guy whose tutelage is the highlight of Golden coaching pedigree also, let's remember. Maybe having gigantically big down linemen who are upperclassmen doesn't mean jack when you have them square dancing with the guy across the ball from them either?

Golden is going to have to completely revamp his philosophy to win anything relevant in big time college football, all that master plan collected in all those volumes in his office is drowning him from weight of their ineffectiveness and he won't let go of it.

Promote Barrow, hire Hargreaves the senior to coach the linebackers and let Mike call Shannon every week for the game-plan advice by back-channel communication if he's slow to get up to speed. It won't take 18 months for Mike to show regression from complete ineptitude though, believe me, he'll probably tighten up the leaks significantly right away just by going base 4-3, getting line penetration up field, pressing his corners and playing man under most of the time with the linebackers. Sure the QB draw will still be a problem like it is with most good defenses, but the zone read from the shotgun will be snuffed out finally and the sacks and TFL numbers will increase exponentially. I can live with making QB's beat you with a perfectly thrown pass over press man, it's going to happen if they're good or having a good day but half the time it also won't happen because they're going to be under duress or the throw isn't going to be right on the money because it's not a pitch and catch situation with the corner conceding six yards of space pre-snap.

Think I'm going to have to pay Bernard on UNC to run a sweep to UM's sideline and permanently take out D'No out of bounds there on his way to 200+ on the ground Saturday. FEAR THE LIE!

dj moonbat

The Al Groh "philosophy" hasn't even worked for Al Groh. End this now. Get Greg Williams.

Posted by: The Dude | October 08, 2012 at 03:38 PM


Now you're talking. The U might as well make a clean break from trying to be a law-abiding program, and Williams is just the guy to make it happen.

WWIN

Lets name the DT's that Golden and Co recruited

Da Plug
Pierre
King
Moore
Briscoe
Ivery
Grimble

7 total DT's and we couldn't get one good one out of 7??

The Dude

You know Al, let's make a deal. Demote Mark, have Gregg Williams come in and teach him a new scheme. Its a little embarrassing I'm sure but we will actually play defense.

Keoki

iami-Florida State kicking off at 8 on ABC.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 08, 2012 at 12:02 PM

That is GOOD news!

Posted by: 86Cane | October 08, 2012 at 12:12 PM
THATS GREAT NEWS!!!

Posted by: canezilla | October 08, 2012 at 03:14 PM


More time to eat and drink punch!

Account Deleted

If we had a fantasy football college league I'd start Bernard this week against us. From what I watched against VT this past week he's gonna have a huge game!! Solid player, breaks tackles and runs hard.

I'mm no D expert, but agree with some of the above points. Push the DE's up field, bump and run on the corners, and let the LB's fill the gaps. At least we force the plays inside or the QB to make a quick read and a good throw. Blitz when you need just to mix things up. For sure what we're doing isn't working, and anything else can't be much worse.

Ohio_Cane

Lets name the DT's that Golden and Co recruited

Da Plug
Pierre
King
Moore
Briscoe
Ivery
Grimble

7 total DT's and we couldn't get one good one out of 7??

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | October 08, 2012 at 03:42 PM
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U know Golden really only had 1 recruiting class, right? That was this year's Freshman.

herbieibis

Willie,

Pierre & Grimble came in as DE's but since they've Jacked them up 35 to 40 lbs in a little more than a year, they're slow. To much weight to quick. Both would of been better off reshirting last year but since the cubbard was bare they had to play.

BigWindyCane-Forecast1

I'm waiting for the "Hire Al Groh" comments... Lol

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 08, 2012 at 03:03 PM

Groh had a higher ranked D than the Canes in almost every defensive category.

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2012-2013/confldrs.html

Hassan


Al Groh is fired

Ohio_Cane

Groh had a higher ranked D than the Canes in almost every defensive category.

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2012-2013/confldrs.html

Posted by: BigWindyCane-Forecast1 | October 08, 2012 at 04:31 PM
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I'm going to assume by this post you're all for the "Hire Al Groh" statement I referred to? I'll respond with this:

Yes, Groh's defense was higher ranked than Miami's in almost all defensive categories...

The difference being, Groh had a VETERAN defense against LESS POTENT offenses than Miami went up against, WITH an offense that controlled the clock and kept the defense OFF the field.

Hassan

Nice meeting you Zakee. I see you sizing up our players I think you want to try to tackle them lol

Our DT's have only been in our offseason basically 1 year, it takes 3 to get a big man to play against grown men.

The D has a month to get healthy get prepared and play lights out.

Hassan

BTW the buzz going around Chicago is that Highsmith is trying to get funding for a small Stadium at Tropical park. It would be based on the Orange Bowl. I give this a 2 out of 10 chance of happening but if the right names and right money gets involved it could absolutely happen. I hear there are already some serious names and discussions happening.

CaneRock

Al Groh is fired

Posted by: Hassan | October 08, 2012 at 04:39 PM

Yup.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8478979/georgia-tech-yellow-jackets-al-groh-fired-defensive-coordinator

j.w.

Heard that, Hassan- it's all over twitter. I don't know, Highsmith claims that a lot of politicians are reaching out to him about his idea, but it's been discussed and rejected so many times. And there's the problem with the long-term lease that we signed with the Dolphins. And then there's the money issue.

j.w.

I bet Groh serves as some kind of an advisor for UM for the rest of the season, unless he really needs time off.

Keoki

Our 6 game STATS on D don't lie (outta 120 FBS colleges)


Total Defense
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Rank Team Gms Plays Yds Avg TD Yds/Gm
118. Miami(FL) 6 466 3060 6.57 26 510.00


Rushing Defense
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Rank Team Gm Rushes Net Avg TD Yds/Gm
116. Miami(FL) 6 302 1504 4.98 19 250.67


Passing Defense
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Rank Team Gm Atts Compl Avg Yds TD Yds/Gm
91. Miami(FL) 6 164 97 59.15 16.04 5 259.33


Scoring Defense
---------------
Rank Team Gm TD Pts/Game
101. Miami(FL) 6 26 34.67

DallasTX Cane

Reality check... A good number of those Dlinemen will become good or very players. But they're not getting it done this season. Why do we expect every player to be great as a freshman? It just doesn't work that way. Across the country, most freshmen don't break the 2-deep roster. Our 2-deep is heavy with freshmen.

Fact: out of 7 recruits, it's likely we'll end up with a couple of great players, a couple of busts and 3 good players.

Fact: this season none of them have shown to be impact players.

The coaches need to make changes tho - even being young and green, there's no way we should be as bad on D as we have been.

WWIN

U know Golden really only had 1 recruiting class, right? That was this year's Freshman.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 08, 2012 at 04:26 PM

You can't get 1 out of 7 to produce?

Freshmen that are producing; Bush, EJ, Flowers, Duke, Lewis before the injury, kirby if not for his injury

j.w.

Willie will- C=mon now, I know that you know that D linemen develop slower than any other position. You are way too smart for that argument. Give the kids time. The sad part is they have nobody in front of them.

Old Skool

Es Mui Macho!!!

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DallasTX Cane

I meant that none have shown to be impact players so far. They will develop given time & proper coaching.

WWIN

Herb,

You are right but what about the rest of em? I wonder how Darius Smith got the nickname "Da Plug"? I'm sure it wasn't from not doing anything, so what's from now? Even the streets said he was a beast

WWIN

DTC,

I don't expect every freshmen that comes in to be GREAT, but I do expect for at least one to be GOOD. Especially if you get one from a JUCO

CGNC

Old Skool - OMG! That guy is gangsta!

WWIN

J.W.,

How did Fortson do his freshmen year wit us?? That's all I expect. The streets said Da Plug was a beast, so what's wrong now? Sounds like a coaching problem to me

CGNC

DTC we just want better. A good coordinator will tailor plays to the players he has, like Jedd Fisch did with Jacory. Amazing what that change made.

The Brown Recluse

Georgia Tech realized that Groh wasn't getting it done, so they unloaded the dead weight. When will the UM brass wake up and realize that No'D is a liability? Living in Georgia, GT fans were heartbroken because the Canes won....why? Because the U gets no love, respect, or is considered a joke in college football. I can guarantee that the OT loss to the Canes is what got Groh fired.
When the Canes lose to college football's elite, it is usually by a great margin. In my opinion, it all started with that Peach Bowl loss (40-3) to LSU, then to a ranked Louisville team (31-6), Oklahoma in 2007 and so on. This is the 3rd coaching regime to sustain mind blowing beat downs to elite teams. Is it the culture, is it talent, is it the type of athlete UM recruits, or is it the coaching staffs?
I did not expect the Canes to beat Kstate or Notre Dame, but I was HOPING that our guys would at least make it a game. I scream fire No'D, but our last d coordinators (Shannon, Bill Young, Leverett) didn't get it done either...

hassan

Groh is 68 and will retire. The idea of the stadium in tropical park and looking like the Orange bowl is not new or unique i have proposed it on many forums but when ZO speaks I listen. The lease could be bought out pretty easily the funding and bond market are the issues

UMike

If our d corrdinator was half has good as our o corrdinator we would be a top 5 team with the players we have now..bad dline and all

dj moonbat

I scream fire No'D, but our last d coordinators (Shannon, Bill Young, Leverett) didn't get it done either...

Posted by: The Brown Recluse | October 08, 2012 at 05:44 PM


Shannon didn't get it done as a D-Coordinator? What?

VA Cane

Va & Tony are just as bad as Shapiro & Pee Wee. Hoping 4 the worst.

Posted by: 4-Real | October 07, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Tony, I was not fussing at you, I was just giving 4 real a hard time as he said you and I were as bad as those 2 guys. Go back and read what I said before that. I agree, we are in deep stuff...I hope not but I am a realist as well. 4 real is a cool guy, just jabbing him a bit. No harm no foul!!!!

The Dude

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/sfl-miami-didnt-quit-coordinator-says-20121008,0,3051228.story

No'D tries to explain his way out of it.

DallasTX Cane

Everyone wants better. I agree that Dno is responsible for the horror show that has been the D.

My main point is that it isn't any one guy; there's a critical mass issue here. Fortson (or Chick last year) was great as a freshman. But who played on either side of him? Who "qb'd" the D he played on? Were there veteran players around him? All that makes a difference. I believe that AG & Dno would play the best guys available. That means that we have almost no upper classmen outplaying the young guys. That's is the main problem with the DL. The best we have = too little experience & too little strength on the DL. Where is Fortson now? Even if not great, we sure could use him this season. I'm saying that it sounds like an "excuse", but we don't have any playmakers on the DL right now; however, that's not really the players' fault this season.

IMO we have got to hope that this group gets better as the season goes on. We also need to hold the DC responsible - things get better & we win the Coastal or we find someone new. U all are right...it really can't get any worse on D.

The Dude

13-3 in first half. 28-0 in second half. We were flat out coached. Irish made adjustments, we did nothing.

orange 'n green in the vein

"Posted by: herbieibis | October 08, 2012 at 04:29 PM"

The herb is the winner of the 'cupboard was bare,' reaching excuse award halfway through the season.

I had O_C at ACC loss number three to VT this year so I don't collect on my ticket. ;)

Yeah, that ring on from his non-playing days and his Broyles award sure show the former head coach couldn't coordinate. Maybe Barrow should just cal up Wanny instead for guidance, no back-channel needed?

CGNC

DTC - LOL, we so get our hopes up when we get a new staff. Only to be disappointed again.

j.w.

"The plug" just isn't getting it done- I got no answers on why, but I did read that he is one of the most dissapointing draft-eligible players per NFL scouts. I guess we'll see next year what the answer is- if he is on a roster its on us, if not he just isn't that good.
I didn't have it in me to rewatch that game, but someone who did claims King actually played well considering he is a true freshman making his first start. Not great, not necessarily good if you're judging him the same as a veteran player, but better than what I thought he did. Someone else made me laugh when he said Smith was ND's best blocker last Saturday, constantly knocking out one of our LB's as he was driven backwards. This is a friend who coaches high school ball, and hadn't seen us play all season.

Al

I do not buy into that bs that our defense is young. Our defense sucks big time. Every team loses players every year. We are all on the same boat. We are talking about Miami. This is not acceptable here. People, when someone is not doing his job well, you fire him. Just like GT did.

pbcfrcane13

Landed back home yesteday and just now was going to watch the game again, ( I always DVR the games and re watch them...easier to be able to watch and see mistakes and break things done that you dont get to watch when your so into the game.) I watched our opening drive the two drops and couldn't do it.....just can't turned it off havent deleted it though, but doubt I will ever be abel to watch it just ah so annoyed!!

Oh well it's over right people UNC come into this house and its time to make them pay for Saturday!!

The ND fans around me were even asking hey why do your CB run backwards right when the ball is snapped? Don't they see were pitching it outside all day....btw our RB gets there your DB is 15 yards off the ball. I shook my head and said yea I know ive been watching this all year.

Account Deleted

What?? A D coordinator fired mid season?? I thought that didn't happen in the college game....

Any chance we can get GT to offer No'D the job? I'm willing to let him start this week if they'd like........

DallasTX Cane

Yeah, CGNC depressing is what it is. Although I'd have gladly taken 4-2 thru our first 6! Never thought the losses would be so bad tho. If we can manage, somehow, to go 4-2 for the remainder; I'll be happier at the end of this season than I have been with UM football is a LONG time! This however is a tough week

CaneRock

D'Onofrio made a point, you take away that garbage ass roughing the kicker penalty, we keep ND out of the end zone in the 1st half.

The Brown Recluse

No'D officially lost me for good when he stated that he didn't care what the fans thought...
No'D you suck and you should go get your insurance license.

Jiggafras

Everyone keeps on pointing out how many Fr and SO we have...STOP that shit! NO ONE is saying we was gonna be great, but no one can explain to me how we are this terrible, no one can do it. We are 118th in Total Defense(510 ypg),116th in rushing defense(250.67ypg),91st in pass defense(259.33ypg), 101st in scoring defense(34.67pts pg),102nd in pass efficiency defense,102nd in sacks,105th in tackles for loss.

Im sitting here trying to rap my mind around this shit, how did it get like this? Are we worse than Temple when Golden took over? They say he is doing what he did when they got kicked out the Big East, no time were they ever this bad. Somebody, anybody explain to me those numbers to me please. There is not one SINGLE thing we can do on defense, not one, we are worst than Sun Belt teams. I don't want to hear anything about the schedule, Bethune Cookman lit us up at home too. Lots of you are not really thinking about what is going on here, we are the worst defense ever sent out by a major D-1 school, i dont believe there has ever been worse.

86Cane

Call it a silver lining if U want, but the 2 teams that beat us are currently ranked #6 and #7 in the country.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 08, 2012 at 02:19 PM

That IS a silver lining.

Let's just ALL hope this season doesn't turn into a Golden Shower.

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