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October 08, 2012

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dj moonbat

D'Onofrio made a point, you take away that garbage ass roughing the kicker penalty, we keep ND out of the end zone in the 1st half.

Posted by: CaneRock | October 08, 2012 at 06:57 PM


That's pretty stupid. After the penalty, ND proceeded to drive about 60 yards for that touchdown. That leads me to believe that if they hadn't scored on that drive, ND might well have scored on some other drive -- as they in fact proceeded to do FIVE TIMES in the second half.

WWIN

What?? A D coordinator fired mid season?? I thought that didn't happen in the college game....

Any chance we can get GT to offer No'D the job? I'm willing to let him start this week if they'd like........

Posted by: longtimecanefan | October 08, 2012 at 06:29 PM

Bingo LMAO

Jiggafras

I hate to hear No'D's interviews, lock him up in a closet or something. He is arrogant, and lost me from the time he said he doesn't care what anyone but his family thinks. And there in lies the fucking problem. He has not change one single thing from the first game till now and there in lies the biggest of all problems he seems to be forcing this swiss cheese scheme down the players' throat. And im starting to hate Al Golden for allowing it to continue. If you are not gonna fire him atleast make some fucking changes. If you have to, play two may under the rest of the season, play that shit and simply let every under man stick somebody and the two safeties cover half the field each. Thats as vanilla as defenses go.

86Cane

Native...IF U can make it on Saturday here is the plan:

1. IF U wanna riding solo and want to ride together then U gotta be at my house at 7:30 AM SHARP. Judson will be here then and we are heading out to arrive at 10:30 at The Hampton Inn and then off to the stadium.

2. IF U and the lovely Rebecca are traveling together and U wanna just meet us there at the Stadium then just plan to arrive there at 11 AM. Call me when U arrive.

WWIN

Posted by: Jiggafras | October 08, 2012 at 07:26 PM

Let me explain it to ya,

This is a very long episode of "Punk'd". Ashton Kutcher is going to pop out at any minute, so wait for it, wait for it, .......

canezilla


I bet Groh serves as some kind of an advisor for UM for the rest of the season, unless he really needs time off.

Posted by: j.w. | October 08, 2012 at 05:00 PM
CHILD PLEASE!

VA Cane

I must agree with Big Eric, to cheer a hurt player is in poorest of taste. I do not care for Santonio Holmes at all....I never liked Mike Irvin as a Cowboy or after...loudmouth....or Deion.....but I never would cheer or be happy a guy is hurt...one thing to see them take a good lick.....but to be glad a cat gets hurt....not right. Winston was pissed....he is a big guy and a good person...glad he spoke up.....

Jiggafras

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | October 08, 2012 at 07:44 PM

That can be the only explanation man. Look at the numbers, its unbelievable. I can't see how it became like this. Golden and No'D are not even addressing the point. they keep on deflecting despite keep on saying its no excuses before they proceed to make 5 million.

There are 10 players on defense who are not FR. Luther Robinson( Redshirt JR), The plug SR, Chickillo SO with experience, Shayon Greene Redshirt JR, Gaines JR, Perryman same as chickillo, Brandon McGee SR, Finnie SO, Telemaque Telemaque Redshirt SR and Highsmith JR. You add Eddie Johnson to that, thats a starting lineup with decent to great experience

Why are they telling me that all we are playing with is FR and SO?

Fire No'D now

mi@mic@ne

THE CANES way of playing defense is the college philosophy of today. After all we were always in the top 5 defenses in the country. We understand what philosophy works. Rite now Al needs to sit down with Jimmy and get lessons on gap responsibilities. Because our d rarely gave up over 100 yrds total and actually drove the opponents back to their 20.
I dont care what kind of d Al is playing ... its not working.

2002nemo

A UM stadium at Tropical Park? NOT LIKELY - not unless a donor is prepared to donate at least $50 million.

As a previous blogger correctly stated, this idea has been repeatedy floated and rejected.

A joint (UM-FIU) football stadium at tropical park was seriously considered at one point. (I understand that the U was very interested). But the idea died when FIU opted for a stadium on its own campus - and Metro-Dade County agreed to spend (beaucoup) money on a new baseball stadium for the Marlins instead of setting aside money for a new (or renovated) stadium for the Canes.

One other problem with the Tropical Park location: It is outside the City of Miami which translates as one less government entity to provide financial support for construction (revenue bonds) or maintenance expense (tourism tax?)

Also, traffic in and out of Tropical Park can be very difficult when there are big events. And there is no Metrorail station nearby.

Account Deleted

From what I read GT made the move to fire Groh now to show they were committed to turning things around this season. At 2-4 they think they can still come back and have a good year.

GT's defense is ranked 90th. We're 118th.

As badly as they've done they're still better than us in nearly every defensive category but still made the move.

Is there a message in this??

canesteeler

The excuses about us being young are getting old. Cocaine made a grat point, Tracy Howard was not passive in high school so why in the hell do you have him playing passive in college. How many college defenses are worst than the Canes? The amount of cushion our db's give plus no pass ruch and my old fat ass could complete a pass on this defense. New alert ND is not a top 10 team. We continously make average QB's look like all pros. ND realized at half time that it was time to start stuffing the ball down our throats in the running game. When we blitzed our corners were back peddling even before the ball was snapped. Ohio I love your loyalty but even back in the days when the U was horrible they played better defense than this. I think Coach D is in way over his head. Coach D makes Randy Shannon look like a Rhoades scholar!

WWIN

Its also funny how Golden and d'no were saying how good the depth was at the DT position before the spring game and everyone said that the defense would have to carry the offense. But now magically there's no talent and they're back tracking they're comments

Tonycane

Va cane. Agreed. Love all you guys (except the occasional maladjusted trolls). Let's focus on football right now and giving the rest of the acc more reasons to hate us!

The Brown Recluse

We should start calling him...No'Defensio!
Wocka Wocka...

Tonycane

As I type this my son is watching the new episode of spongebob square pants. Made me think....I wonder if Patrick is an fsu fan? Or alumni?

canesteeler

My typing is horrible tonight much like our defense. The O has to put up at least 42 points for us to have a chance to win this weekend.

mi@mic@ne

ND was an older team that was big and slow. We always have coached active d ends and d linemen. If you remember they were coached to get off the ball like a 100 yrd dash runner. Our d ends were taught to get a step on the big o tackle and beat him around the outside. Our d line was to get off the ball quicker than the o line and penetrate in the gap. This would have neutralized NDs size and slowness.

But instead we are taught to man up and we got pushed around in the second half. In the old days our d line appeared to be very active with their stunts and where they needed to be. But now we look like we are standing in a bucket of concrete.

CoCane

Golden has lost me now. He said if he 1 man. Meaning a 22 year old senior. That would erase the issues on the D-line. Ok... He doesn't know that Darius Smith is a SR? Robinson is rs JR. Last year he had SR's & the D-line sucked. Not this bad but still sucked. He's basically saying this defensive system at it's peak will have mediocre results. But he believes it will dominate. "He who knows not but believes he knows is dangerous & should be avoided". Golden knows not that a d-line without penetration, CB's & LB's 10 yds off of the LOS will never work in major college football. Yet the dum fuck believes it will. Even after having the worst defense in the nation for 6 strait weeks. Lord have mercy! The sentinel says the coaches spent 38 hours watching film this weekend. I bet Feliciano's mom's juicy azz cheeks, they still ain't realize that dum fukkin system gives up 5-10 yards before the ball is snapped. That's why Fisch dinked & dunked the first 2 games, because that's all he had to do to move the chains all off season. When facing a real D in KSU, afterwards it was like, OH SHYT! WE HAVE TO THROW DOWNFIELD TO GET YARDS AGAINST EVERYONE BUT OUR D & BC'S!!! What a great fukkin idea! Genius! Reality...

The U is fukked. Vasolineless. RIP RELEVANCY & POWERHOUSE STATUS.

A moment of silence & pour out a lil' liquor

Jiggafras

Here is the solution, Fire No'D as a promote Barrow to DC, his unit is the only one that has made any plays, DP52 and EJ44 or the only players who look like they belong on the field with a U on their helmet...even Paul with his inexperience force a fumble V NCST.

If Golden thinks he can spend the rest of 6 games telling us how young we are after he started off saying they weren't gonna talk about it, he has something coming. Dude most of the fans are with you, but we not with No'D and we are not buying the youth shit, we are Savannah St bad.

Promote Barrow, get a NFL position coach from the Ravens, the 49ers am sure you can match their salary, heck call the plays your damn self. No'D has to go now. We have a chance to win the Coastal, its not gonna happen with No'D. VT is struggling this year and they will absolutely run the ball down our throats and not throw one time and beat us. How do you explain a team run the ball 20 straight times on you?!! UNC is coming next with Bernard and Renner, over under 600 yards?

Jiggafras

If we really want to be relevant and Golden keeps on talking shit, get that guy that just got fired from Arkansas, Booby Petrino fuck it. He didn't commit any NCAA violations and he would jump at the opportunity, he will not get a better chance and that bitch can coach flaw and all

j.w.

Zilla, that comment is stale! Wasn't it started here by the same guy who was sure Shannon knew what he was doing? Lol.
I will bet you a beer Groh advises the staff this year, though.

AlpharettaCane

British rugby league player Paul Wood has lost a testicle after a collision during the English sport's showpiece final at Manchester's Old Trafford stadium on Saturday.

The player sustained the injury one minute into the second half, but managed to play the rest of the match before seeking treatment

Posted by: Old Skool | October 08, 2012 at 05:31 PM


Skool: can this dude play corner? lol

86Cane

A moment of silence & pour out a lil' liquor

Posted by: CoCane | October 08, 2012 at 08:33 PM

Nah, I only do that for my Mom (RIP) and Sean Taylor (RIP).

This team ain't dead it just has a defense on life support. Time to lay hands and say a prayer that it gets better.

I think it will.

Jiggafras

Posted by: 86Cane | October 08, 2012 at 08:49 PM

If the defense is not dead dude i don't know what is, over 1200 yards in 2 weeks? Are we still talking about Miami Hurricanes here?

mi@mic@ne

Posted by: AlpharettaCane | October 08, 2012 at 08:49 PM

LOL

Thats kind of what Al is asking from the team to have success . lol

canesteeler

Miamicane I remember a game back in the 80's when we went to Arkansas and they outweighed our DL by an average of 40 pounds and we did exactly what you stated and pounded them something like 54-14.

86Cane

I do NOT expect it but IF anything is gonna happen it will happen tomorrow at 12:32 PM.

GOLDEN SPEAKS at his weekly press conference.

Old Skool


Skool: can this dude play corner? lol

Posted by: AlpharettaCane | October 08, 2012 at 08:49 PM

Alph
I don't know, but he's a baller... or at least was.

mi@mic@ne

Thats what im saying Canesteeler... we were very well coached to get penetration and we were quick in getting into the back field. If the d linemen did not do it well he did not see the field.

86Cane

Jiggafras...do U know what the lesson learned from Bobby Petrino's situation was?

Jiggafras

Posted by: 86Cane | October 08, 2012 at 09:02 PM

Yes Petrino got Monica Lewinskied.

CalgaryCane

Posted by: mi@mic@ne | October 08, 2012 at 08:33 PM

Very astute observation mi@mic@ne. We got trashed by 2 teams that play mostly Jr and Sr linemen. Both our Oline and Dline got pushed around. Much as I am starting to suspect DNo, I am hesitant to blame it all on him when our Oline can't open a running game for Mike or Duke.

canezilla


I will bet you a beer Groh advises the staff this year, though.

Posted by: j.w. | October 08, 2012 at 08:47 PM
GT D IS RANKED 90TH WE ARE WHAT 115? BLIND LEADING THE BLIND IF GROH COMES HERE.NO?

mi@mic@ne

I always thought that blaming the offense for defense being on the field too much was a losing proposition. Its always been winning philosophy to say that the defense wins games. Im surprised Al said that in the post game comments.

LaQuinton

Some of you were jumping the gun. I believe that west Virginia has a worse d. If you name the starters on defense look at how many are first year contributors.... Exactly minus Perryman..chick..McGee and Telemaque and plug(d.smith)) . I dont d'nos whole "bend dont break d" sounds like the dumbest shit ive heard in awhile... I would like withers from osu... He coached at NC last year and knows how to coach a good defense (2009 NC v Miami) and knows the acc.... Golden wont fire d'no its al's system also ! Thats why he supports and understands....

CoCane

C'mon man! Anybody that knows football knows that the best way to disrupt any offense is penetration by the d-line. So it makes no sense for a d-line to engage & wait for the play to come to you. Unless you want to have the 118th ranked defense in the country. Oh & while you're at it, bench the only d-lineman that can get penetration (Robinson). Speaking of Robinson. I wonder why the only game the run D was good, was the game he played the most? Against BC. 101 yds on 34 carries. Fuq shyt...

Jiggafras

Blaming one side for the other side is crap. Against NCST we drove 90 plus yard and scored a TD, the D allowed NCST to drove 80 yards and reply. The offense came and drove 75 yards and scored a TD subsequently, the D allowed NCST to drive 90 plus yards and score another TD. The offense came and drove 45 yards and missed a FG, The D came back and allowed NCST to score a FG and tie the game. All these drives happened back to back to back More the excuses i tell you. our defense is poop not because of anything other than its poop. LSU's offenses is poop, their defense still does'nt allow 600 yards every game. More excuses. fire No'D now

Brevardcane

I'm wonder if anyone from the defense was there for that offseason meeting Morris held where he got emotional and talked about winning this year, etc? I mean that guy has really stepped up this year.

mi@mic@ne

Yes thats what ive been saying ... college football is so fast..if you coach players to hold their position then the o play is already successful. Thats why our old philosophy about beating a guy to a spot you know your gonna go to that is up field will neutralizer him from going up field. You got to make them start on their side of the line not on yours.

Brevardcane

Who provides the leadership on the field the way Morris does for the offense?

86Cane

Yes Petrino got Monica Lewinskied.

Posted by: Jiggafras | October 08, 2012 at 09:06 PM

NO. The lesson learned is do NOT ride motorcycles. If he didn't do that everything would have been cool. LOL

Montreal-Cane

Some very good advices from former AD Sam Jankovich to President Shalala

Former UM AD Sam Jankovich ( the best AD ever):

http://wqam.com/interviews

CoCane

Brevard,

How can you have leadership if the system is set up to fail??? That would be leading failure...

Jack

I like our LB's #56,#52,#44 They look good! Two freshman and one soph! The future is bright onD!! I will hold off judgment until the end of the year.

It's simple Go Canes!!!!!

WWIN

I think people also forget that we have private school kids. What does that mean you ask? It means that you have to be a little smart to attend UM. So what's does that have to do with anything you ask? It means it shouldn't take them more than a year to figure out a defensive scheme, it means that if anything we should have smart players with no talent instead of dumb players with talent. More proof of why d'no must go

orange 'n green in the vein

Petrino couldn't coach defense either, it was always why he couldn't get over the hump in Louisville and Arkansas.

It should take 36 MINUTES for Barrow to calmly explain to Golden why this scheme is complete trash and how he can fix it. Of course that would require Golden to STFU for half an hour and listen to the guy with championship rings on his finger on the defensive staff instead of reminiscing with his buddy about funny things Paterno and Sandusky would say at practice while rehearsing the war of attrition before Jerry went off to pimp out children to rich pederast boosters back in college for once. But that should be easy enough.

jerry

For all those that talk about the process and being young. Lets look at logic>
around 120 teams in the NCAA
We get constantly a top 20 or 10 recruiting class no matter if it was Shannons or who ever.
Most of the players are All State etc.
and we are ranked worst than the other 110 teams that got who ever recruits...
OK also > players busted their butts off in preseason it is evident in games but the only constant we see is that they are out of position 90% of the time on D... DBs line up 10 yards away from the line on 4 yards to go. The other team in in run formation and we have 3 or for linemen.
HEY ND QB sucked before the game so WHY didnt we force him to beat us throwing and pack the line with 7 or 8. For gods sake he is a freshman and SUCKS, super inconsistent. But against us he looked like ELWAY!!!! The fuck....

WWIN

Posted by: CoCane | October 08, 2012 at 09:23 PM

Bad thing is that they were trying to switch Robinson to offense. So why would they do that if they thought the talent was bad on the d-line? Oh I know why, because its not the talent its the coaching

86Cane

Tough crowd up in here?

CaneRock

I think part of the problem lies with Jethro "Stuntin' Like My Daddy" Franklin. Too many times I've seen the D-Line "Stuntin' -n- Slantin'" themselves right out of the play, making it easier for the O-Linemen to wash them down the line of scrimmage.

CaneRock

And as far as Tracy Howard is concerned, He's going to have to get more physical in the run game, that's why Gunther is getting more play. Frankly, I don't understand why TH came here, He could've played all the press man coverage He wanted to with those basketball scores that they're putting up in the Big 12.

CaneRock

That leads me to believe that if they hadn't scored on that drive, ND might well have scored on some other drive -- as they in fact proceeded to do FIVE TIMES in the second half.

Posted by: dj moonbat | October 08, 2012 at 07:34 PM

They did score "on some other drive", 2 FGs equals 6 points last I checked.

WWIN

I think part of the problem lies with Jethro "Stuntin' Like My Daddy" Franklin. Too many times I've seen the D-Line "Stuntin' -n- Slantin'" themselves right out of the play, making it easier for the O-Linemen to wash them down the line of scrimmage.

Posted by: CaneRock | October 08, 2012 at 11:04 PM

LMAO I wonder why he left USC to come here???

LaQuinton

Willie.. He was at temple

Montreal-Cane

Larry Coker's UTSA Roadrunners are 5-0 in case anyone was wondering. First year of the program.

WWIN

Laquinton,

That's right. So why did he leave USC for temple?

4-Real

Did you know??............

The money UM is paying Golden & Shannon is enuff 2 buy a REAL coach & coaching staff??

The Dude

Sigh. Loving this team is hard on me. I just want Butch back.

Al

Bring the bitch back. Hell, he can coach for real. And recruit as well. He recruited and made the most first round picks in history. With sanctions he built a team that could have won THREE CONSECUTIVE NC. 2000-2002.

WWIN

^^^^^^^

Al, bring who back????? LMAO

Daddeh

Da U

pre83

I haven't heard any of the interviews, but man, Manny, Big House, SMD, et al need to press the matter before this team becomes irrelevant and there jobs do as well. AG has to better explain "what the hell is goin' on out there?!"

If AG is that proud, then he will have to lay in the bed he made and I can't imagine that is going to be pretty. Ray Lewis' son is committed to the Canes, correct??

I'm not sure when the Ravens' bye week is, but I hope he can find a few minutes to dial up ol' AG and let him know that this simply is not the way you coach D at da U. Seriously, somebody has to get through to him.

Hell, mild-mannered Leslie Frazier, the Minnesota Viking's HC, had to demote his long time friend and NFL HOF linebacker Mike Singletary on the Vikings' coaching staff. And hells bells, the Vikings' D is light years better than last year's. They are also starting two rookie DB's, as well as unexperienced LB's. Youth can produce if they are given PROPER direction.

And I was going to go to the ND debacle. Man, at least ChiTown one of the greatest cities in the world! For those who traveled to Manhattan...KANSAS, I feel for you!!

The thing that gets me is that No'D can't eat Humble Pie and he will regret that, believe me. What he is doing to the young talent we do have isn't going to reap any benefits. Rather, it will have the opposite effect and that is the point that AG best realize and realize TWO WEEKS AGO!

The ONLY thing that is providing me any hope is that Jedd Fisch was widely considered a failure OC at the college level but a few years ago while he served the same position at Minnesota. As bad as this Canes D is, the Minn offense was just as bad.

The turn around is remarkable with Mr. Fisch. If I were to try to explain it to any Gopher fan, I guarantee you they wouldn't believe me. I can't say that I feel the same optimism for No'D, but hey, I'm holding on to some thin thread here!

I find it hard that any of the long list of PSU linebackers would back AG's scheme. Something's not adding up - well, aside from the opponents points!

Jiggafras

No'D seems arrogant and he barely talks to the media, and soon enough they will turn on him. Hopefully sooner than later. He totally lost me when he said he doesn't care about anyone but his family. Golden knows the defense is crap, No'D has not done any interviews i can remember in a while. I hope we beat UNC but i think they will light us up again. Week 7 and we are actually worse than how we started. ND ran 20 straight run plays against us. How inept of a coach can you be to allow that to happen...and if its all the players fault they should all be benched. But its not, and i think No'D has drilled it into their heads that it is all their fault. Their confidence will be totally gone if they lose to UNC and they get drilled by FSU. Man its depressing.

Hassan


Food for thought....


Sean Allen lives in Brickell in a condo on the water. Think about that for a second, this guy is currently unemployed and for how many years worked at Miami making 8 bucks and hour and you are telling me that he can afford a condo on the water in Miami? GTHOH. But these supposed "investigative reporters" can't tell the whole story can they. You really think a Rat like Shapiro does not have a stash somewhere and he is not directing Sean Allen to keep this story alive, the guy is trying to seek anyone who will talk to him to bring down this program.

LB

Look, I'm all for firing D'Onofrio (even as early as next week). He's also contractually a dead man, and he himself knows it.

-----------------------
"Defensive coordinator Mark D’Onofrio insisted his players didn’t give up, as Notre Dame running back Cierre Wood more than hinted after the game, telling ESPN.com that the Hurricanes were “upbeat” and “jumping” around at the start of the game, but that “when you smack a team so many times in the mouth, eventually they’re going to want to stop playing, and that’s what happened.”

Said D’Onofrio: “I don’t think that’s the case. When you talk about the end of the game you’re talking about guys like [freshman linebacker] Raphael Kirby and Dequan Ivery in there. Those guys were playing their first football game. The guys played hard.”- Seantrel's Sweetheart, the Herald

Read between the lines. He sounds a lot like Randy Shannon on the Joe Rose show, minus the chuckles from the Tool behind the mic.

Some of you, however, are absolutely losing touch with common sense.

This season is not over. Every single one of our opponents is absolutely beatable. Our defense really stinks, and hopefully we've reached the cellar.

This emotional roller coaster needs to stop, for the sake of your families and your health:

Before Week 1: We're going down. The NCAA will kill us and we'll never win another game because our team doesn't pay for 5 stars.

After Week 1: Duke!
After Week 2: I knew it! (For more, see comments from the talentless Sileo)
Week 3: They allowed Bethune Cookman to score 10! I hate you all!
Week 4: What a win!
Week 5: Morris! Morris!
Week 6: I hate myself and you all!

Calm down, people. Golden is overachieving. The defense stinks, but the rest of the ACC is a whole pile of turds. Hopefully we'll come out like Andy Dufresne.


But I sleep well: at least Canes fans don't act like these idiots...

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/region/wvu-plans-crackdown-after-postgame-outburst-656781/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVNH_QSbH5w

dj moonbat

The turn around is remarkable with Mr. Fisch. If I were to try to explain it to any Gopher fan, I guarantee you they wouldn't believe me. I can't say that I feel the same optimism for No'D, but hey, I'm holding on to some thin thread here!

I find it hard that any of the long list of PSU linebackers would back AG's scheme. Something's not adding up - well, aside from the opponents points!

Posted by: pre83 | October 09, 2012 at 02:30 AM


Fisch is smart. D'Onofrio is half smart, and thinks he's all-the-way smart.

I think it's possible that D'Onofrio's defense actually works OK when people really understand it. (I don't really know whether it's any good, because I get the impression that the execution is so bad that we can't really tell whether they're even running D'Onofrio's D out there on the field.)

But any defensive scheme will suck if the players can't run it fast. To run it fast, they have to know what to do. On Miami's defense, on virtually every play, there are multiple guys who are questioning, in real time, what their assignment is on the field.

If your D is failing because your players don't understand it, it's just not appropriate to continue yielding 600-yard, 40-point performances to mediocre/bad offenses while you wait for them to grow into their roles. You have to install plays that they can run, right now, at full speed, while you teach them the rest of the defense in practice and during the offseason.

CoCane

LB,

4-2 is great. Especially condidering most thought 2-4 or 1-5. What's got everyone steamed is the defense, Golden & No'D not holding themselves accountable by throwing the players under the bus. The excuse of youth or lack of talent from the upper classman when the scheme gives up 2 & 3 before the ball is snapped. The HC & DC are insanely running that bullshyt scheme that will forever get shredded. It's potential is an inch above mediocre at best. Everyone sees it EXCEPT D'NO & GOLDEN! A high school football coach that lives in my apartment complex has been saying since last year against Maryland, the defense we run will never work. An ex college football player that watched the game at my crib was so disgusted, he left after Wieclaw missed the FG. Walking out the door he says, "that zone is too slow & soft. If they don't start attacking & bring the CB's & LB's up, their D will get carved up by everybody". I said " thats the scheme". He laughed & said "your DC better start looking for another job". WTF?! Since it's Golden's defense we fans have to watch this fukkery for the rest of this season & next. D'No won't get fired & they'll lose games they shouldn't have because of it.

LB

"What's got everyone steamed is the defense, Golden & No'D not holding themselves accountable by throwing the players under the bus."

Golden is holding himself accountable. I agree with you about D'Onofrio.

"D'No won't get fired & they'll lose games they shouldn't have because of it."

There's too much money at stake for D'Onofrio not to get fired. Unless the defense pitches shutouts for the last 6 games (highly unlikely), he's toast. D'Onofrio knows it too. He's gone. If he's not gone in 2013, then I'll start questioning Golden's judgment.

The footage is brutal. The statistics are even worse.

CGNC


You really think a Rat like Shapiro does not have a stash somewhere and he is not directing Sean Allen to keep this story alive, the guy is trying to seek anyone who will talk to him to bring down this program.

Posted by: Hassan | October 09, 2012 at 07:22 AM

Yeah I wondered about that - his being able to be "unemployed" and live on the water.

CaneRock

You know what, my apologies to SJMPARMAN, He was right, this scheme is different from what JJ ran.

From an alignment and execution standpoint, JJ ran a 4-3 OVER that was more straight up, as far gap responsibilities and pursuit.

Whereas the current scheme, is a 4-3 UNDER, with more "Slantin'-n-Stuntin'".

Like I said in a previous post, the "Slantin'-n-Stuntin'" is hurting this defense at inopportune times.

Just to give you one example, in one of the ND highlights, Gholson runs a QB draw, and the gap that He ran the draw to, was vacated by Luther Robinson, because Luther was...you guessed it..."Slantin'-n-Stuntin'".

And this was an issue last season, the KSU game in particular. It happened when Klein converted on that 3rd and 20+ backed up into our own endzone. I think in that same game, theirs a brief shot of AG voicing His displeasure to...you guessed it...Jethro "Stuntin' Like My Daddy" Franklin.

Maybe it's just me, but there seems to be a disconnect, between the D-Line coach, and the rest of the defensive staff.


CaneRock

From an alignment and execution standpoint, JJ ran a 4-3 OVER that was more straight up, as far gap responsibilities and pursuit.

Whereas the current scheme, is a 4-3 UNDER, with more "Slantin'-n-Stuntin'".

Posted by: CaneRock | October 09, 2012 at 09:53 AM

For clarification:

In an "UNDER" front, the strongside Guard is uncovered, IOWs, there's no D-Lineman lined up over the strongside Guard.

In an "OVER" front, the strongside Guard is COVERED, IOWs, there's a D-Lineman lined up over the strongside Guard.

Ohio_Cane

Sandusky gets 30-60 years in State Prison.

CaneRock

Ya'll make of this quote what you will, but Erk Russell hit the nail on the head when He said:

"There are 8 gaps in footall. The chances of the ball hitting any one particular gap is 1 in 8! So that means a great defender is pursuing the ball 7 out of 8 times!"

dj moonbat

"There are 8 gaps in footall. The chances of the ball hitting any one particular gap is 1 in 8! So that means a great defender is pursuing the ball 7 out of 8 times!"

Posted by: CaneRock | October 09, 2012 at 10:29 AM


Forgive me for being thick-headed: is the implication that on that eighth time, he isn't pursuing because the ball came right at his gap?

nemo2002

UTough?

THE MAN

A few points to make here...

1. Can we all stop with the bring back (insert coach/player from 10+ years ago) to coach or whatever because they did it way back then. It's just foolishness. I know we all want those glory years back, but people from the past are not necessarily the answer unless of course they could actually play still...

2. The team on Sat night showed the same signs of the last 5-6 years. You never know WHAT team is going to show up! I know the defense was atrocious and has been all year, but the offense was borderline equally as bad. They couldn't do ANYTHING in the second half.

3. This team still plays with no emotion in certain games which is a sign of inconsistency and with inconsistency you have mediocre or bad football. In my opinion it's the culture that has been there for so long now and it will take awhile for it to go away if ever. Plus the looming sanctions that are coming, this team may not be good again for a decade or more.

I can't even remember a game when there was a COMPLETE game played by all phases. It's usually 1 of 3 or 2 of 3, but I can't remember all phases playing well the same game. As I mentioned, until there is some consistency they will always be mediocre or average at best...

dg

Man, I remember when the Jon Gruden rumors were flying and I was a "Gruden Hater". Was I wrong-No way any half way decent coach allows his defense and himself to get embarrassed week after week without trying new things. Gruden would have done damn near anything to stop the bleeding. Even Coker wouldn't allow this. Fine line b/t arrogance and ignorant.

GREAT coaches adapt to their players NOT the other way around. Seeing the stats makes me want to turn to fairies or some imaginary creature for HELP. Maybe if I watch the Jerome Brown coin toss about 100 times, the pain will subside.

orange 'n green in the vein

Posted by: Hassan | October 09, 2012 at 07:22 AM

If he is still living at the address he was when he was deposed for the bankruptcy hearing, it's his dad's condo and in his dad's name. Not saying the rest of your 'keeping the story smelling rotten' speculation can't be true but those are the sworn to facts unless this is a new place of residence.

CoCane

Yeah dg. It sucks watching these coaches trying to turn players with attacking, man coverage skill sets, into prevent zone readers. It's like trying to turn a whore into a housewife. She'll put on the aprin, go to the PTA meetings, speak & act innocent in front of the in-laws but end up burning the food, fukking the gym coach, your neighbors husbands & cuss your mom out when her true colors show...

The point is, people do what they do best. So let them do their thing...

Church

j.w.

Posted by: j.w. | October 08, 2012 at 08:47 PM
GT D IS RANKED 90TH WE ARE WHAT 115? BLIND LEADING THE BLIND IF GROH COMES HERE.NO?

Posted by: canezilla | October 08, 2012 at 09:13 PM

I didn't say it was going to work, amigo, just that it would happen. :) But seriously, this is no different than a business asking a trusted source to evaluate it to find out why it is underperforming. Getting an objective opinion can't hurt, can it?
As for B.C.'s running game: 1) they have no running backs; 2) The passing game worked pretty well for them that day. That and the fact they were trailing late in the game usually add up to fewer rushes. I don't hate Luther Robinson at all, hope and wish like hell that he does well, but I don't see his playing time having all that much to do with our success or failure on defense. He may be our best DT, but that's kind of like saying Mexico has a better navy than any Central American nation.

Ohio_Cane

Robert Lockhart will make his college debut this week, the 20th freshman to play in '12

Ohio_Cane

Milian - Total respect for Phillip Dorsett. Kid has awful game, but steps up after game and today to answer every question.”

CaneRock

Forgive me for being thick-headed: is the implication that on that eighth time, he isn't pursuing because the ball came right at his gap?

Posted by: dj moonbat | October 09, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Exactly.
But hell, even if the ball came at you, you're still pursuing.
So in actuality, a great defender is pursuing the ball 8 out of 8 times.
And that's the thing with all these slants and stunts, once you commit to going one way, and the ball goes the other way, you lose that all valuable pursuit.
Now if you got a bead on your opponent, then it's fine, but when you're doing it just to be doing it, then that's the equivalent of playing blind.

CGNC


Let's just ALL hope this season doesn't turn into a Golden Shower.

Posted by: 86Cane | October 08, 2012 at 07:33 PM

LOL my friend's grandfather used to say "don't wizz down myback and tell me its raining"

Clwtrdan

I had a dream last night. I watched the game on Saturday and our Dline was starting Forston, Porter, Vernon and Ojomo/Chick. Guys, we Have no upperclassmen as they either bailed on us or got juiced by the NCAA ie.Ojomo.

THE MAN

I had a dream last night. I watched the game on Saturday and our Dline was starting Forston, Porter, Vernon and Ojomo/Chick. Guys, we Have no upperclassmen as they either bailed on us or got juiced by the NCAA ie.Ojomo
Posted by: Clwtrdan | October 09, 2012 at 02:16 PM

And with that line Miami lost 34 - 3 instead? I don't get your point with that? What did those other guys ever do to give you confidence that it would be much different? Playing younger players is the new wave of college football. It's the same reason that college qb's are translating quicker to the NFL is because they are better prepared and have different training then ever before. You are starting to see that with the high school kids too. They are ready to play earlier than before. Obviously having 3 and 4 years players would be ideal, but having tackling dummies out there on Sat night would have yielded the same results on defense. ZERO pass rush, db's playing 10-15 off the wr so basically it's just the qb and wr playing catch, defenders taking horrific angles and blocking themselves out of the play, etc. What is wrong with this defense is much much more than the d coord, IMO...

Ohio_Cane

Golden's weekly presser here: http://ufootball.tumblr.com/

Ohio_Cane

Telemaque: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wHrYOByT7w

1:05 in... *SIGH*

LB

Why is Telemaque even in that game? I'm sure Donna Shalala was in attendance.

Ohio_Cane

This is a real shame: Phillip Dorsett threated on Twitter after drops (via @Anthony_Chiang) http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/sfl-dorsett-threatened-on-twitter-after-notre-dame-drops-20121009,0,2387871.story

I always wonder what people are thinking after hearing about them threatening players...

WWIN

Robert Lockhart will make his college debut this week, the 20th freshman to play in '12

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 09, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Is it me or does it seem like we waste our players freshman year??? Half the season is over I guarantee he won't be in more than 5-6 plays on Saturday. Why waste the opportunity to red shirt him if he's not going to make a difference anyways??

orange 'n green in the vein

You could have the two deep line from 2001 and the philosophy the MAC man is using would have them losing to BC, losing to VT, and probably getting gashed by Nebraska (except with Golden's scheme, they wouldn't even make the Potato Bowl at the rate he would have had them playing and getting beat up on the line instead of beating their blocker to a spot in the backfield) that year.

I'd say after a year and a half, being a whopping GAME over .500 with two wins against BCC (and no games against them with less than 350 yards given up against the mighty MEAC) means that this coaching change isn't working out at all yet. Every time Golden opens his mouth is now beginning to convince me it never will either. Last year Jedd gave the appearance of competence to the MAC imports by slowing the pace of his side of the ball to a snail crawl, this year he's realized he can't do that because he's got to score every time he gets a possession or else it's going to be a loss, so that's pulled the curtain back on the rotten stewardship of that side of the football as a result. D'No's lucky his family hates football, because if they were fans of the game they'd disown him watching his 'expertise' on display.

Ohio_Cane

Awesome story from my Alma Mater...

"In one of the most unselfish acts I can ever recall in high school sports, last Friday in St. Clairsville's game at Edison High School, No. 10 Michael Ferns (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Michael-Ferns-137345) took off on a 52 yard run and intentionally ran out of bounds at the 1 yard line. Logan Thompson, No. 17, took it from there...Thompson, who had lost his father, Paul on Wednesday of last week, was then handed the ball and ran through a giant hole to score in his father's memory. This pic was shot after Logan's TD run behind the St. C. bench. Please excuse the lack of complete clarity, but I think I might have been a little shaky... Thanks, Michael and Logan for sharing the moment and for teaching what it means to be a Teammate!~ God's Speed, Paul Thompson!~"

Pic of the moment here:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151044219350951&set=a.10151044219150951.422262.550385950&type=1&theater

herbieibis

Firing DENO, is really not going to solve our problem. We've had about 5 different D-Coordinators the last 7 years and that hasn't helped, so what is the answer? It ain't the Dam "PLUG" Smith 325 lbs of super goo, or those 3 amigas all 6'1 300 LB pound puppies. If we bring someone else in it's going to be the same dam thing, learning a new system and that will be another excuse. No, the problem lies in 3 things, recruiting, coaching & scheming. Let's be fair to DENO, it's not like he has much to work with up front. I'll admit, AL reached on a few of these boys when he got hired late. (KING & Smith) were brought in after the signing period, because we had absolutely no depth. Then he moves Pierre & Grimble 2 Ends to tackle, chunks on 35 lbs on each of them in a little over a year and throws them to the wolves. That leaves Porter, who has played in 2 games in almost 3 years, Luther Pouty Robinson, and the squat brothers Ivery & Moore. Man that's a who's who of tackles. Who's coaching these blocking dummies, none other than Jethro Tull, it must be because these guys can't be Jethro Franklins boys, not the same guy that once coached at mighty USC. Somebody ain't doing the their job. You can't tell me, even though we have 7 stiffs at tackle we can't motivate 2 of them to play beyond their years? The LB's ain't much better, there making tackles 5 to 7 yds down the field. The scheme stinks, with this high school game plan, the DB's 10 yds off the ball and now we get to recruiting, We have exactly one D-Linemen, verballed as of right now & No LB's. I know they are banking on Grace, Williams & Thomas, at LB, with Thomas the big IF. We have Bryant verballed at DT and that's if his mamma ok's it. Who is out there after that, the Williams kid from Lousiana, who plays DE and there are a couple DT's Bostwick being one who we could end up with and we all see what playing fresman gets you!We need help quick on that side of the ball. We need coaching, schemming & recruiting to soar to another level.

Montreal-Cane

Brett Romberg This morning with Joe Rose comments on the UM program

http://wqam.com/interviews

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