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October 08, 2012

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CaneRock

I think part of the problem lies with Jethro "Stuntin' Like My Daddy" Franklin. Too many times I've seen the D-Line "Stuntin' -n- Slantin'" themselves right out of the play, making it easier for the O-Linemen to wash them down the line of scrimmage.

CaneRock

And as far as Tracy Howard is concerned, He's going to have to get more physical in the run game, that's why Gunther is getting more play. Frankly, I don't understand why TH came here, He could've played all the press man coverage He wanted to with those basketball scores that they're putting up in the Big 12.

CaneRock

That leads me to believe that if they hadn't scored on that drive, ND might well have scored on some other drive -- as they in fact proceeded to do FIVE TIMES in the second half.

Posted by: dj moonbat | October 08, 2012 at 07:34 PM

They did score "on some other drive", 2 FGs equals 6 points last I checked.

WWIN

I think part of the problem lies with Jethro "Stuntin' Like My Daddy" Franklin. Too many times I've seen the D-Line "Stuntin' -n- Slantin'" themselves right out of the play, making it easier for the O-Linemen to wash them down the line of scrimmage.

Posted by: CaneRock | October 08, 2012 at 11:04 PM

LMAO I wonder why he left USC to come here???

LaQuinton

Willie.. He was at temple

Montreal-Cane

Larry Coker's UTSA Roadrunners are 5-0 in case anyone was wondering. First year of the program.

WWIN

Laquinton,

That's right. So why did he leave USC for temple?

4-Real

Did you know??............

The money UM is paying Golden & Shannon is enuff 2 buy a REAL coach & coaching staff??

The Dude

Sigh. Loving this team is hard on me. I just want Butch back.

Al

Bring the bitch back. Hell, he can coach for real. And recruit as well. He recruited and made the most first round picks in history. With sanctions he built a team that could have won THREE CONSECUTIVE NC. 2000-2002.

WWIN

^^^^^^^

Al, bring who back????? LMAO

Daddeh

Da U

pre83

I haven't heard any of the interviews, but man, Manny, Big House, SMD, et al need to press the matter before this team becomes irrelevant and there jobs do as well. AG has to better explain "what the hell is goin' on out there?!"

If AG is that proud, then he will have to lay in the bed he made and I can't imagine that is going to be pretty. Ray Lewis' son is committed to the Canes, correct??

I'm not sure when the Ravens' bye week is, but I hope he can find a few minutes to dial up ol' AG and let him know that this simply is not the way you coach D at da U. Seriously, somebody has to get through to him.

Hell, mild-mannered Leslie Frazier, the Minnesota Viking's HC, had to demote his long time friend and NFL HOF linebacker Mike Singletary on the Vikings' coaching staff. And hells bells, the Vikings' D is light years better than last year's. They are also starting two rookie DB's, as well as unexperienced LB's. Youth can produce if they are given PROPER direction.

And I was going to go to the ND debacle. Man, at least ChiTown one of the greatest cities in the world! For those who traveled to Manhattan...KANSAS, I feel for you!!

The thing that gets me is that No'D can't eat Humble Pie and he will regret that, believe me. What he is doing to the young talent we do have isn't going to reap any benefits. Rather, it will have the opposite effect and that is the point that AG best realize and realize TWO WEEKS AGO!

The ONLY thing that is providing me any hope is that Jedd Fisch was widely considered a failure OC at the college level but a few years ago while he served the same position at Minnesota. As bad as this Canes D is, the Minn offense was just as bad.

The turn around is remarkable with Mr. Fisch. If I were to try to explain it to any Gopher fan, I guarantee you they wouldn't believe me. I can't say that I feel the same optimism for No'D, but hey, I'm holding on to some thin thread here!

I find it hard that any of the long list of PSU linebackers would back AG's scheme. Something's not adding up - well, aside from the opponents points!

Jiggafras

No'D seems arrogant and he barely talks to the media, and soon enough they will turn on him. Hopefully sooner than later. He totally lost me when he said he doesn't care about anyone but his family. Golden knows the defense is crap, No'D has not done any interviews i can remember in a while. I hope we beat UNC but i think they will light us up again. Week 7 and we are actually worse than how we started. ND ran 20 straight run plays against us. How inept of a coach can you be to allow that to happen...and if its all the players fault they should all be benched. But its not, and i think No'D has drilled it into their heads that it is all their fault. Their confidence will be totally gone if they lose to UNC and they get drilled by FSU. Man its depressing.

Hassan


Food for thought....


Sean Allen lives in Brickell in a condo on the water. Think about that for a second, this guy is currently unemployed and for how many years worked at Miami making 8 bucks and hour and you are telling me that he can afford a condo on the water in Miami? GTHOH. But these supposed "investigative reporters" can't tell the whole story can they. You really think a Rat like Shapiro does not have a stash somewhere and he is not directing Sean Allen to keep this story alive, the guy is trying to seek anyone who will talk to him to bring down this program.

LB

Look, I'm all for firing D'Onofrio (even as early as next week). He's also contractually a dead man, and he himself knows it.

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"Defensive coordinator Mark D’Onofrio insisted his players didn’t give up, as Notre Dame running back Cierre Wood more than hinted after the game, telling ESPN.com that the Hurricanes were “upbeat” and “jumping” around at the start of the game, but that “when you smack a team so many times in the mouth, eventually they’re going to want to stop playing, and that’s what happened.”

Said D’Onofrio: “I don’t think that’s the case. When you talk about the end of the game you’re talking about guys like [freshman linebacker] Raphael Kirby and Dequan Ivery in there. Those guys were playing their first football game. The guys played hard.”- Seantrel's Sweetheart, the Herald

Read between the lines. He sounds a lot like Randy Shannon on the Joe Rose show, minus the chuckles from the Tool behind the mic.

Some of you, however, are absolutely losing touch with common sense.

This season is not over. Every single one of our opponents is absolutely beatable. Our defense really stinks, and hopefully we've reached the cellar.

This emotional roller coaster needs to stop, for the sake of your families and your health:

Before Week 1: We're going down. The NCAA will kill us and we'll never win another game because our team doesn't pay for 5 stars.

After Week 1: Duke!
After Week 2: I knew it! (For more, see comments from the talentless Sileo)
Week 3: They allowed Bethune Cookman to score 10! I hate you all!
Week 4: What a win!
Week 5: Morris! Morris!
Week 6: I hate myself and you all!

Calm down, people. Golden is overachieving. The defense stinks, but the rest of the ACC is a whole pile of turds. Hopefully we'll come out like Andy Dufresne.


But I sleep well: at least Canes fans don't act like these idiots...

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/region/wvu-plans-crackdown-after-postgame-outburst-656781/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVNH_QSbH5w

dj moonbat

The turn around is remarkable with Mr. Fisch. If I were to try to explain it to any Gopher fan, I guarantee you they wouldn't believe me. I can't say that I feel the same optimism for No'D, but hey, I'm holding on to some thin thread here!

I find it hard that any of the long list of PSU linebackers would back AG's scheme. Something's not adding up - well, aside from the opponents points!

Posted by: pre83 | October 09, 2012 at 02:30 AM


Fisch is smart. D'Onofrio is half smart, and thinks he's all-the-way smart.

I think it's possible that D'Onofrio's defense actually works OK when people really understand it. (I don't really know whether it's any good, because I get the impression that the execution is so bad that we can't really tell whether they're even running D'Onofrio's D out there on the field.)

But any defensive scheme will suck if the players can't run it fast. To run it fast, they have to know what to do. On Miami's defense, on virtually every play, there are multiple guys who are questioning, in real time, what their assignment is on the field.

If your D is failing because your players don't understand it, it's just not appropriate to continue yielding 600-yard, 40-point performances to mediocre/bad offenses while you wait for them to grow into their roles. You have to install plays that they can run, right now, at full speed, while you teach them the rest of the defense in practice and during the offseason.

CoCane

LB,

4-2 is great. Especially condidering most thought 2-4 or 1-5. What's got everyone steamed is the defense, Golden & No'D not holding themselves accountable by throwing the players under the bus. The excuse of youth or lack of talent from the upper classman when the scheme gives up 2 & 3 before the ball is snapped. The HC & DC are insanely running that bullshyt scheme that will forever get shredded. It's potential is an inch above mediocre at best. Everyone sees it EXCEPT D'NO & GOLDEN! A high school football coach that lives in my apartment complex has been saying since last year against Maryland, the defense we run will never work. An ex college football player that watched the game at my crib was so disgusted, he left after Wieclaw missed the FG. Walking out the door he says, "that zone is too slow & soft. If they don't start attacking & bring the CB's & LB's up, their D will get carved up by everybody". I said " thats the scheme". He laughed & said "your DC better start looking for another job". WTF?! Since it's Golden's defense we fans have to watch this fukkery for the rest of this season & next. D'No won't get fired & they'll lose games they shouldn't have because of it.

LB

"What's got everyone steamed is the defense, Golden & No'D not holding themselves accountable by throwing the players under the bus."

Golden is holding himself accountable. I agree with you about D'Onofrio.

"D'No won't get fired & they'll lose games they shouldn't have because of it."

There's too much money at stake for D'Onofrio not to get fired. Unless the defense pitches shutouts for the last 6 games (highly unlikely), he's toast. D'Onofrio knows it too. He's gone. If he's not gone in 2013, then I'll start questioning Golden's judgment.

The footage is brutal. The statistics are even worse.

CGNC


You really think a Rat like Shapiro does not have a stash somewhere and he is not directing Sean Allen to keep this story alive, the guy is trying to seek anyone who will talk to him to bring down this program.

Posted by: Hassan | October 09, 2012 at 07:22 AM

Yeah I wondered about that - his being able to be "unemployed" and live on the water.

CaneRock

You know what, my apologies to SJMPARMAN, He was right, this scheme is different from what JJ ran.

From an alignment and execution standpoint, JJ ran a 4-3 OVER that was more straight up, as far gap responsibilities and pursuit.

Whereas the current scheme, is a 4-3 UNDER, with more "Slantin'-n-Stuntin'".

Like I said in a previous post, the "Slantin'-n-Stuntin'" is hurting this defense at inopportune times.

Just to give you one example, in one of the ND highlights, Gholson runs a QB draw, and the gap that He ran the draw to, was vacated by Luther Robinson, because Luther was...you guessed it..."Slantin'-n-Stuntin'".

And this was an issue last season, the KSU game in particular. It happened when Klein converted on that 3rd and 20+ backed up into our own endzone. I think in that same game, theirs a brief shot of AG voicing His displeasure to...you guessed it...Jethro "Stuntin' Like My Daddy" Franklin.

Maybe it's just me, but there seems to be a disconnect, between the D-Line coach, and the rest of the defensive staff.


CaneRock

From an alignment and execution standpoint, JJ ran a 4-3 OVER that was more straight up, as far gap responsibilities and pursuit.

Whereas the current scheme, is a 4-3 UNDER, with more "Slantin'-n-Stuntin'".

Posted by: CaneRock | October 09, 2012 at 09:53 AM

For clarification:

In an "UNDER" front, the strongside Guard is uncovered, IOWs, there's no D-Lineman lined up over the strongside Guard.

In an "OVER" front, the strongside Guard is COVERED, IOWs, there's a D-Lineman lined up over the strongside Guard.

Ohio_Cane

Sandusky gets 30-60 years in State Prison.

CaneRock

Ya'll make of this quote what you will, but Erk Russell hit the nail on the head when He said:

"There are 8 gaps in footall. The chances of the ball hitting any one particular gap is 1 in 8! So that means a great defender is pursuing the ball 7 out of 8 times!"

dj moonbat

"There are 8 gaps in footall. The chances of the ball hitting any one particular gap is 1 in 8! So that means a great defender is pursuing the ball 7 out of 8 times!"

Posted by: CaneRock | October 09, 2012 at 10:29 AM


Forgive me for being thick-headed: is the implication that on that eighth time, he isn't pursuing because the ball came right at his gap?

nemo2002

UTough?

THE MAN

A few points to make here...

1. Can we all stop with the bring back (insert coach/player from 10+ years ago) to coach or whatever because they did it way back then. It's just foolishness. I know we all want those glory years back, but people from the past are not necessarily the answer unless of course they could actually play still...

2. The team on Sat night showed the same signs of the last 5-6 years. You never know WHAT team is going to show up! I know the defense was atrocious and has been all year, but the offense was borderline equally as bad. They couldn't do ANYTHING in the second half.

3. This team still plays with no emotion in certain games which is a sign of inconsistency and with inconsistency you have mediocre or bad football. In my opinion it's the culture that has been there for so long now and it will take awhile for it to go away if ever. Plus the looming sanctions that are coming, this team may not be good again for a decade or more.

I can't even remember a game when there was a COMPLETE game played by all phases. It's usually 1 of 3 or 2 of 3, but I can't remember all phases playing well the same game. As I mentioned, until there is some consistency they will always be mediocre or average at best...

dg

Man, I remember when the Jon Gruden rumors were flying and I was a "Gruden Hater". Was I wrong-No way any half way decent coach allows his defense and himself to get embarrassed week after week without trying new things. Gruden would have done damn near anything to stop the bleeding. Even Coker wouldn't allow this. Fine line b/t arrogance and ignorant.

GREAT coaches adapt to their players NOT the other way around. Seeing the stats makes me want to turn to fairies or some imaginary creature for HELP. Maybe if I watch the Jerome Brown coin toss about 100 times, the pain will subside.

orange 'n green in the vein

Posted by: Hassan | October 09, 2012 at 07:22 AM

If he is still living at the address he was when he was deposed for the bankruptcy hearing, it's his dad's condo and in his dad's name. Not saying the rest of your 'keeping the story smelling rotten' speculation can't be true but those are the sworn to facts unless this is a new place of residence.

CoCane

Yeah dg. It sucks watching these coaches trying to turn players with attacking, man coverage skill sets, into prevent zone readers. It's like trying to turn a whore into a housewife. She'll put on the aprin, go to the PTA meetings, speak & act innocent in front of the in-laws but end up burning the food, fukking the gym coach, your neighbors husbands & cuss your mom out when her true colors show...

The point is, people do what they do best. So let them do their thing...

Church

j.w.

Posted by: j.w. | October 08, 2012 at 08:47 PM
GT D IS RANKED 90TH WE ARE WHAT 115? BLIND LEADING THE BLIND IF GROH COMES HERE.NO?

Posted by: canezilla | October 08, 2012 at 09:13 PM

I didn't say it was going to work, amigo, just that it would happen. :) But seriously, this is no different than a business asking a trusted source to evaluate it to find out why it is underperforming. Getting an objective opinion can't hurt, can it?
As for B.C.'s running game: 1) they have no running backs; 2) The passing game worked pretty well for them that day. That and the fact they were trailing late in the game usually add up to fewer rushes. I don't hate Luther Robinson at all, hope and wish like hell that he does well, but I don't see his playing time having all that much to do with our success or failure on defense. He may be our best DT, but that's kind of like saying Mexico has a better navy than any Central American nation.

Ohio_Cane

Robert Lockhart will make his college debut this week, the 20th freshman to play in '12

Ohio_Cane

Milian - Total respect for Phillip Dorsett. Kid has awful game, but steps up after game and today to answer every question.”

CaneRock

Forgive me for being thick-headed: is the implication that on that eighth time, he isn't pursuing because the ball came right at his gap?

Posted by: dj moonbat | October 09, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Exactly.
But hell, even if the ball came at you, you're still pursuing.
So in actuality, a great defender is pursuing the ball 8 out of 8 times.
And that's the thing with all these slants and stunts, once you commit to going one way, and the ball goes the other way, you lose that all valuable pursuit.
Now if you got a bead on your opponent, then it's fine, but when you're doing it just to be doing it, then that's the equivalent of playing blind.

CGNC


Let's just ALL hope this season doesn't turn into a Golden Shower.

Posted by: 86Cane | October 08, 2012 at 07:33 PM

LOL my friend's grandfather used to say "don't wizz down myback and tell me its raining"

Clwtrdan

I had a dream last night. I watched the game on Saturday and our Dline was starting Forston, Porter, Vernon and Ojomo/Chick. Guys, we Have no upperclassmen as they either bailed on us or got juiced by the NCAA ie.Ojomo.

THE MAN

I had a dream last night. I watched the game on Saturday and our Dline was starting Forston, Porter, Vernon and Ojomo/Chick. Guys, we Have no upperclassmen as they either bailed on us or got juiced by the NCAA ie.Ojomo
Posted by: Clwtrdan | October 09, 2012 at 02:16 PM

And with that line Miami lost 34 - 3 instead? I don't get your point with that? What did those other guys ever do to give you confidence that it would be much different? Playing younger players is the new wave of college football. It's the same reason that college qb's are translating quicker to the NFL is because they are better prepared and have different training then ever before. You are starting to see that with the high school kids too. They are ready to play earlier than before. Obviously having 3 and 4 years players would be ideal, but having tackling dummies out there on Sat night would have yielded the same results on defense. ZERO pass rush, db's playing 10-15 off the wr so basically it's just the qb and wr playing catch, defenders taking horrific angles and blocking themselves out of the play, etc. What is wrong with this defense is much much more than the d coord, IMO...

Ohio_Cane

Golden's weekly presser here: http://ufootball.tumblr.com/

Ohio_Cane

Telemaque: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wHrYOByT7w

1:05 in... *SIGH*

LB

Why is Telemaque even in that game? I'm sure Donna Shalala was in attendance.

Ohio_Cane

This is a real shame: Phillip Dorsett threated on Twitter after drops (via @Anthony_Chiang) http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/sfl-dorsett-threatened-on-twitter-after-notre-dame-drops-20121009,0,2387871.story

I always wonder what people are thinking after hearing about them threatening players...

WWIN

Robert Lockhart will make his college debut this week, the 20th freshman to play in '12

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 09, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Is it me or does it seem like we waste our players freshman year??? Half the season is over I guarantee he won't be in more than 5-6 plays on Saturday. Why waste the opportunity to red shirt him if he's not going to make a difference anyways??

orange 'n green in the vein

You could have the two deep line from 2001 and the philosophy the MAC man is using would have them losing to BC, losing to VT, and probably getting gashed by Nebraska (except with Golden's scheme, they wouldn't even make the Potato Bowl at the rate he would have had them playing and getting beat up on the line instead of beating their blocker to a spot in the backfield) that year.

I'd say after a year and a half, being a whopping GAME over .500 with two wins against BCC (and no games against them with less than 350 yards given up against the mighty MEAC) means that this coaching change isn't working out at all yet. Every time Golden opens his mouth is now beginning to convince me it never will either. Last year Jedd gave the appearance of competence to the MAC imports by slowing the pace of his side of the ball to a snail crawl, this year he's realized he can't do that because he's got to score every time he gets a possession or else it's going to be a loss, so that's pulled the curtain back on the rotten stewardship of that side of the football as a result. D'No's lucky his family hates football, because if they were fans of the game they'd disown him watching his 'expertise' on display.

Ohio_Cane

Awesome story from my Alma Mater...

"In one of the most unselfish acts I can ever recall in high school sports, last Friday in St. Clairsville's game at Edison High School, No. 10 Michael Ferns (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Michael-Ferns-137345) took off on a 52 yard run and intentionally ran out of bounds at the 1 yard line. Logan Thompson, No. 17, took it from there...Thompson, who had lost his father, Paul on Wednesday of last week, was then handed the ball and ran through a giant hole to score in his father's memory. This pic was shot after Logan's TD run behind the St. C. bench. Please excuse the lack of complete clarity, but I think I might have been a little shaky... Thanks, Michael and Logan for sharing the moment and for teaching what it means to be a Teammate!~ God's Speed, Paul Thompson!~"

Pic of the moment here:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151044219350951&set=a.10151044219150951.422262.550385950&type=1&theater

herbieibis

Firing DENO, is really not going to solve our problem. We've had about 5 different D-Coordinators the last 7 years and that hasn't helped, so what is the answer? It ain't the Dam "PLUG" Smith 325 lbs of super goo, or those 3 amigas all 6'1 300 LB pound puppies. If we bring someone else in it's going to be the same dam thing, learning a new system and that will be another excuse. No, the problem lies in 3 things, recruiting, coaching & scheming. Let's be fair to DENO, it's not like he has much to work with up front. I'll admit, AL reached on a few of these boys when he got hired late. (KING & Smith) were brought in after the signing period, because we had absolutely no depth. Then he moves Pierre & Grimble 2 Ends to tackle, chunks on 35 lbs on each of them in a little over a year and throws them to the wolves. That leaves Porter, who has played in 2 games in almost 3 years, Luther Pouty Robinson, and the squat brothers Ivery & Moore. Man that's a who's who of tackles. Who's coaching these blocking dummies, none other than Jethro Tull, it must be because these guys can't be Jethro Franklins boys, not the same guy that once coached at mighty USC. Somebody ain't doing the their job. You can't tell me, even though we have 7 stiffs at tackle we can't motivate 2 of them to play beyond their years? The LB's ain't much better, there making tackles 5 to 7 yds down the field. The scheme stinks, with this high school game plan, the DB's 10 yds off the ball and now we get to recruiting, We have exactly one D-Linemen, verballed as of right now & No LB's. I know they are banking on Grace, Williams & Thomas, at LB, with Thomas the big IF. We have Bryant verballed at DT and that's if his mamma ok's it. Who is out there after that, the Williams kid from Lousiana, who plays DE and there are a couple DT's Bostwick being one who we could end up with and we all see what playing fresman gets you!We need help quick on that side of the ball. We need coaching, schemming & recruiting to soar to another level.

Montreal-Cane

Brett Romberg This morning with Joe Rose comments on the UM program

http://wqam.com/interviews

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