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October 27, 2012

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ARCane

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Felipe

Last!

tjl3909

3rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

86Cane

The herald and almost any new org can post anonymous sources but Tom's blog requires a source.....

Posted by: Hassan | October 26, 2012 at 11:25 PM

I just love your thinking and rationale on this one. Since everyone else can be rumor mongers and post unsubstantiated rumors then we should do it too? More than that since we are just a blog and not a news org then we should do it even more, right?

Posting unfounded and irresponsible rumors just because U heard it "somewhere" is part of the problem NOT part of the solution.

Saying "WE are hearing rumors that the NCAA will come down in November and the ACC wants us to self impose aban from the ACC championship game" is no more difficult than saying "ITU is reporting that" ...or "I saw someone at the Miami Herald is claiming that that..." or "CaneInsider is saying that a source told them that..."

86Cane

Hassan...if U recall some of the people and pay sites that started some "rumors" before were 100% WRONG.

Remember that Gruden was signed with UM?

Remember that Seantrel was gone and enrolled at Minnesota?

Should I go on? Look if U shoot enough bullets U are bound to hit something sooner or later, but most times they are just shooting up in the air and hoping for a hit.

CGNC

Canes win it 7-3 over Duke.

CGNC i got the updates on twitter.

Posted by: Montreal-Cane | October 26, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Wow. They must have lit up that goalie LOL!

GO CANES!

Terrance Sullivan

Got to buy 2 ACC weekend ticket packages for men's hoops.M-I-A-M-l fight, fight, fight.

Hassan

I am a former Marine 86 I love to shoot lol

I think it is ok to post the info as long as you make it clear it is a rumor and not the gospel. That way people know what is being said COULD happen.

CaneRock

NEWS: New UM Canes depth chart for VaTech; RB E. Clements out for rest of season

Good morning.

First, the injury news: third-year junior tailback Eduardo Clements, one of the most devoted and hard-working Canes that I have come across, is out for the season with an
injury not yet disclosed to us. Feel so bad for him and the team.

In seven games this season, Eduardo had 16 carries for 70 yards and two touchdowns this season as the third-team tailback who is used primarily as a third-down specialist.

He also had two catches for 11 yards.
Eduardo also played on special teams, and had four tackles this season.
We're waiting for practice to end. Please note that the new depth chart only lists Mike James and Duke Johnson at running back -- not Dallas Crawford.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2012/10/news-new-um-canes-depth-chart-for-vatech-rb-e-clements-out-for-rest-of-season.html#storylink=cpy

Terrance Sullivan

I really hate that for OT. Hope he comes back strong next season.

86Cane

That way people know what is being said COULD happen.

Posted by: Hassan | October 27, 2012 at 10:48 AM

I can live with that.

86Cane

After his team's off week, Miami Hurricanes head coach Al Golden released his latest depth chart Saturday.

Most of the changes were to the No. 2 and No. 3 positions at various positions on the depth. The biggest omission, however, was that of junior RB Eduardo Clements, who is now out for the season due to injury.

Single-game tickets for the 2012 football season are available online, by phone at 1-800-GO-CANES (1-305-284-2263) or in-person at the Miami Athletics Ticket Office, now located on the first level at BankUnited Center. The popular "Publix $9 Before 9" is back for the Nov. 1 game vs. Virginia Tech, while fans can also purchase "The Joe Rose Special" - 2 lower-level tickets and orange parking for $80 - for the VT game.

For the latest information on Miami Hurricanes Football, follow @HurricaneSports on Twitter and the official blog for Hurricanes Football, www.theufootball.com.

86Cane

OFFENSE (PRO)
WR 80 RASHAWN SCOTT 6-2, 190, So.
86 Herb Waters 6-2, 185, Fr.
LT 79 MALCOLM BUNCHE 6-7, 325, RSo.
64 Hunter Wells 6-4, 300, RFr.
LG 70 JONATHAN FELICIANO 6-5, 314, RSo.
68 Jeremy Lewis 6-4, 316, RSr.
C 62 SHANE MCDERMOTT 6-4, 295, RSo.
75 Jared Wheeler 6-5, 314, RJr.
RG 65 BRANDON LINDER 6-6, 308, Jr.
63 Daniel Isidora 6-4, 320, Fr.
RT 77 SEANTREL HENDERSON –OR– 6-8, 340, Jr.
74 ERECK FLOWERS 6-6, 314, Fr.
TE 46 CLIVE WALFORD 6-4, 250, RSo.
49 Dyron Dye 6-5, 255, RJr.
82 Asante Cleveland 6-5, 263, Jr.
FB 33 MAURICE HAGENS 5-11, 240, Jr.
43 Sean Harvey 6-4, 262, RSo.
QB 17 STEPHEN MORRIS 6-2, 214, Jr.
11 Ryan Williams 6-5, 221, RSo.
RB 5 MIKE JAMES 5-11, 220, Sr.
8 Duke Johnson 5-9, 188, Fr.
WR 4 PHILLIP DORSETT 5-10, 185, So.
83 Kendal Thompkins 5-10, 182, RSr.
6 Robert Lockhart Jr. 6-1, 188, Fr.
WR 1 ALLEN HURNS 6-3, 192, Jr.
24 Davon Johnson 6-0, 188, Sr.

86Cane

DEFENSE (4-3)
DE 71 ANTHONY CHICKILLO 6-4, 262, So.
92 Jalen Grimble –OR– 6-2, 295, So.
99 Jelani Hamilton 6-5, 271, Fr.
DT 72 EARL MOORE 6-1, 300, Fr.
98 Darius Smith –OR– 6-2, 315, Sr.
66 Dequan Ivery 6-1, 303, Fr.
DT 91 OLSEN PIERRE 6-4, 300, So.
93 Luther Robinson –OR– 6-3, 288, RJr.
67 Corey King 6-1, 295, RFr.
DE 51 SHAYON GREEN 6-3, 260, RJr.
17 Tyriq McCord –OR– 6-3, 236, Fr.
90 Ricardo Williams 6-5, 240, RFr.
OLB 44 EDDIE JOHNSON 6-1, 238, RFr.
34 Thurston Armbrister 6-3, 222, So.
MLB 59 JIMMY GAINES 6-3, 230, Jr.
56 Raphael Kirby 6-0, 218, Fr.
36 Gionni Paul 6-1, 230, So.
OLB 52 DENZEL PERRYMAN 6-0, 229, So.
34 Thurston Armbrister 6-3, 222, So.
31 Tyrone Cornileus 6-2, 210, Jr.
CB 37 LADARIUS GUNTER 6-2, 198, Jr.
3 Tracy Howard –OR– 5-11, 185, Fr.
20 Thomas Finnie 5-10, 183, So.
S 2 DEON BUSH 6-1, 190, Fr.
30 AJ Highsmith 6-0, 202, RJr.
S 22 KACY RODGERS II 6-2, 210, Jr.
7 Vaughn Telemaque –OR– 6-2, 204, RSr.
29 Rayshawn Jenkins 6-1, 203, Fr.
CB 21 BRANDON McGEE 6-0, 194, Sr.
39 Antonio Crawford 5-11, 188, Fr.

Al


When the GSR becomes part of the scoreboard let me know so I can jump from joy. For those who think we can win out, remember there is a difference between believing and hoping. I hope we win, but I believe what happened yesterday is happening now and the same will happen tomorrow. Yes, inconsistent play, bad defense, poor coaching, etc. We have done nothing to change this, so if you expect a different result while you do the same thing over and over, you are literally insane. DS I hope you are reading this. Looks like you don't give a dime for our football program. Time to redistribute the billion $$$$ you just got. The program needs better coaches and a thing with grass in it where you play football...some people call it a Stadium.

orange 'n green in the vein

Everybody who thinks Golden at Temple = 'MIRACLE,' take note. Larranaga at George Mason = 'miracle.'

Golden at Temple = good move to a weak conference for a program to have something to play for (and still not win).

CaneRock

Hmmmm, how ironic is it that Kacy Rodgers Dad, is teaching Olivier Vernon better technique than our D-Line coach:

“Kacy does as good a job as anybody in the league,” Coyle said, predicting Vernon “will be an impact guy from here on out.” Vernon said: “I’ve learned so much since leaving UM – using my hands way more now.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/27/3069411_p2/on-field-teaching-paying-dividends.html#storylink=cpy

herbieibis

Vernon's learning more because he listens and cares more. That's what dollar signs will do for you! He's no different than any other player that left here who was average in college and plays better in the pros.

orange 'n green in the vein

The only average season in college Vernon had was the one he had to sit out half the year due to copping to the rat fink midget benefits then stepped into the worst coordinated defense in UM history until this year.

Jethro sucks, Vernon bolted before he got wasted in a dumb scheme asking him to get nuked at the line of scrimmage hand fighting with a guy who outweighed him by 60 pounds.

Jack

Olivea Vernon should have stayed! He just may have been a 1st or 2nd rounder had he stayed. He was raw but athletic, we really miss him on D!

Zakkee

Olivier Vernon = average at UM

wow. dudes are auditioning for Chris Freet's job.

Our players are only motivated by dollar signs huh.

And that culture began where? With them?

Alright..
Ok..
Whats up
..._______________! lol

Hassan


Jones makes the magic

http://www.nba.com/magic/news/denton-magic-keep-jones-waive-harper-q-rich

Hassan

Ask srts About Big Reg and our B Ball team?

CaneRock

Olivea Vernon should have stayed! He just may have been a 1st or 2nd rounder had he stayed. He was raw but athletic, we really miss him on D!

Posted by: Jack | October 27, 2012 at 01:39 PM

Nah, He made the right decision in leaving. He's getting better coaching, He's productive, and, He's getting paid. So it's win,win,win.

herbieibis

That's right average. Was he all conferance while he was here? What did he do outstanding? Blaming Jethro is senceless. To be honest, we really haven't had a good dee-coordinator, since we made the misstake of hiring Dandy as head coach, once that occurred our dee has not been the same since.

SinisterCane

RASHAWN SCOTT starting is one of the reason we won't see any progress with the offense, can't do the one simple thing "CATCH" but continues to start

99 Jelani Hamilton 6-5, 271, Fr. hopefully will move to DT, dude is big for a Fr.

orange 'n green in the vein

He blew by tackles with an outstanding first step that made him a feared speed rusher when he was 18 and 19 coming off a broken foot as a 17 year old.

Keeping toking the Temple strain and convincing yourself Lovett wasn't any good herb. You're making a lot of sence.

Hassan


New Manny
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2012/10/donofrio-says-he-doesnt-hold-grudges-luther-apologizes-plus-other-canes-and-cain-notes-from-saturday.html

Zakkee

Lovett > D'Omino (he devises our defensive strategy using dominos)////// ...this is obvious

Vernon led Us in sacks at 18 years of age and with Allen Bailey on the team

Eid Mubarack Hassan!

orange 'n green in the vein

Zakkee, herb says he's average, so that doesn't count for anything. If he was such a great end at 18 he would have been named all conference at least right?

Jack

Billy Corben makes good documentaries. However, I can't stand listing to him on WQAM! Dude must be 4 foot tall, cause he has "little man syndrome". He is a loud mouth....

Jack

Canerock -

Vernon would be making a lot more $$ had he stayed another year. Plus if those juniors stayed and started to truly turn things around they would always be remembered for that. Instead L Miller, Streeter ,Vernon and company will be remembered for leaving prematurely. FYI coaching and player's are better in the NFL. NFL = The best of the best!!

Hassan

EId Muburak been sick the past few days.


I hate watching great SFLA kids play for other teams (bernard)

TonyCane

Just saw Lattimore's injury...horrific. Counter argument to why Lamar should have stayed.

Old Skool

New Info from Manny or at least info I didn't know ...

Third-string running back Eduardo Clements, who sustained an undisclosed season-ending knee injury against Florida State, was at practice Saturday to work as a coach with his teammates.

UM offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch said Clements, the team's third down specialist, was averaging about 12 offensive snaps a game. Fisch said those will now be split by senior Mike James and new third-string running back Dallas Crawford, who continues to work primarily as the scout team quarterback. Golden said that as of now he doesn't want to have to burn the redshirt of freshman running back Danny Dillard.

Jack

Out of all the juniors who left prematurely last year the running back position may be justified. They do have a short shelf life at the next level. The rest od rhe guys should have bounded together and stayed to be a part of something special. Just imagain if this youthful inexperience team makes it to the ACC championship game.

roachcane77

I'm glad we don't play Oregon... They had Colorado 56-0 at the half...

It would probably be 70-0 against D'Nos' defense at the half...

86Cane

With fans and friends like these who needs enemies? Where is Canechic when U need her?

BigWindyCane1

FSU pouring it on Duke 31-0 at halftime. FSU looks like to old FSU and Duke looks like the old Duke.

It appears that after today, the Canes will be tied for the Coastal Division lead.

Thursday's Canes game against Virgina Tech will be for the Coastal Division lead and probably the Coastal champtionship.

And the Canes WILL NOT forfeit the Coastal Division Champtionship and choose not to participate in the ACC Championship game.

My source - Logic and common sense!

If the Canes self impose anything (and I am not sure they will) it will be their bowl game.

86Cane

Roach..regarding your difficulties posting on the blog the other day there are some banned words and bloggers names. Email me for details.

86Cane

If the Canes self impose anything (and I am not sure they will) it will be their bowl game.

Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | October 27, 2012 at 05:08 PM

I am going to "self impose" something I'm just not sure what it is yet? LOL

86Cane

The University of Miami women's basketball team will enter the 2012-13 season as the No. 24 team in the nation as announced by the Associated Press on Saturday. It is the second straight preseason ranking for the Canes after they entered the poll at No. 7 a year ago.

Saturday marks just the second time that the Canes have been ranked in the preseason poll.

"Our program has been so successful the last two years and although we have lost a lot to graduation, I am pleased that people recognize that we have some other players who have been working hard and have Miami pride," said head coach Katie Meier. "I feel like we have a big-time program here and sustained success is the final step in our growth."

Miami returns two All-ACC players in Stefanie Yderstrom and Morgan Stroman. Each was named to the conference's third team, Stroman in 2011 and Yderstrom in 2012.

UM also will see the addition of three freshmen that made up a signing class that ranked 19th according to ESPNU Hoop Gurlz.

Caprice Dennis (5-9, G, Detroit, Mich.), Keyona Hayes (6-1, F, Marietta, Ga.) and Macy Keen (6-6, C, Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.) will each look to make an immediate impact in their first collegiate season.

The Canes will face five teams that are ranked in the AP Top 25 poll, including No. 3 Duke, No. 5 Maryland, No. 8 Penn State, No. 20 Tennessee, and No. 22 Georgia Tech. Miami will play Duke and Georgia Tech two times each during the regular season.

roachcane77

No biggie 86... I get it...

I agree with AG, hope they don't have to burn DD's redshirt at RB. (Too late in the season... )

Just wish AG would agree with ME on getting rid of D'Ono...

WWIN

Big windy

I think that if we don't forfeit the acccg the NCAA will make us pay for it. They want us to show them that we are willing to give up something big to receive less punishment. How would it look to the NCAA if we played in the acccg and then declined to play in a toilet bowl??? It shows them that we are trying to choose our punishments. If we take the forfeit it would be huge for our future

WWIN

Roach,

The d has been improving. If anything you should switch your argument to firing fisch

Jack

I am now expecting to see an improved D against VT!!

Let's go canes!!!!!!

Montreal-Cane

Who is coaching Georgia's defense? Make him an offer he cannot refuse.

Jack

Gooooooo UGA!!

orange 'n green in the vein

Yeah, wait until the offense runs into the best search of talent the opponents field against them all year then blame their coordinator when they don't look all world and claim 200 rushing yards surrendered suddenly looks good Willie. Great to see the off week applies to logic too, want to take a swipe at one of Miami's better recent draftees while you're at it my man?

mi@mic@ne

Turds are gonna lose.. almost as good as a Cane victory ...

Montreal-Cane

Duke lost
Florida will lose
Now OU beat Notre Shame.

j.w.

Willie, the NCAA has no control over the ACC CG. That rumor is really stretching things. If the conference championship game counted as a post season game, Ohio St. and UNC wouldn't have been banned by their respective conferences from playing in it, the NCAA would have done it for them. We may self impose, but if we do it has nothing to do with the conference championship game.

CaneRock

Big windy

I think that if we don't forfeit the acccg the NCAA will make us pay for it. They want us to show them that we are willing to give up something big to receive less punishment. How would it look to the NCAA if we played in the acccg and then declined to play in a toilet bowl??? It shows them that we are trying to choose our punishments. If we take the forfeit it would be huge for our future

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | October 27, 2012 at 05:33 PM

Great points, but can the NCAA impose a ban on Conference Championships? I thought only the Conference can do that...

CaneRock

WWIN, never mind, I just read JW's post.

mi@mic@ne

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee got to love it

2002nemo

I thought UNC was effectively banned from the ACC championship game?

orange 'n green in the vein

There's nothing effective about it, they are ineligible to play in the ACC CG.

Jack

So are we already in the ACCCG?????

orange 'n green in the vein

Could be worse Al, could have hired Muschump and then had to watch him have a stroke every week on the sidelines while the offense drowns in a pool of its own ineptitude.

CGNC

Who is coaching Georgia's defense? Make him an offer he cannot refuse.

Posted by: Montreal-Cane | October 27, 2012 at 06:25 PM

LOL I was thinking that. Jarvis Jones is a beast. He looks like he should be in the NFL already

pbcfrcane13

http://www.youtube.com/user/canefreak2001

does it again VT pump up video....THUR!!! lets go!!!

86Cane

OGV...I have a question for U:

Are U ever capable of stepping "outside yourself" and setting your personal agenda aside and try to just listen and look at yourself to see how completely biased, one sided and ridiculous you sound?

I hate to say this but I have not met anyone so angry, bitter and delusional about something so trivial as sports in my life as U.

I take that back there was Canechic.

orange 'n green in the vein

/\/\/\/\

LMAO! Well played my friend.

That is all.

WWIN

Posted by: j.w. | October 27, 2012 at 07:08 PM

So you think unc has the options on playing in the acccg??? I'll answer it for you, nope they're banned

Montreal-Cane

CGNC yes Jarvis Jones is the real deal!

WWIN

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | October 27, 2012 at 07:05 PM

So based on what you are saying, our defense should go from giving up 600 yds to 250 yds in one week? You are smart enough to know that we should she gradual improvements and we have and you still are talking crazy about the d. And you stated that the offense played against the best talent put together, well what about the defense?? We use to make every qb we faced a heisman candidate, can you say we made Manuel or Renner look like that? No. That's called improving

Then, what's your beef wit Golden?? To me, its just because he came from Temple??

Ohio_Cane

K State putting up 50+ on almost everyone they play

86Cane

LMAO! Well played my friend.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | October 27, 2012 at 08:25 PM

U know I hate to love U!

Or is it I love to hate U?

Dang, now I am confused. Need more scallops.

86Cane

K State putting up 50+ on almost everyone they play

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 27, 2012 at 08:43 PM

Yes, it appears that I owe Chris Freet and Chris Yandel an apology.

WWIN

So are we already in the ACCCG?????

Posted by: Jack | October 27, 2012 at 07:34 PM

You have to start planning ahead not wait till the day of to decide what to do

86Cane

Hard work certainly does pay off. Former Miami Hurricane DeQuan Jones achieved his life-long dream Saturday when he made the Orlando Magic’s 15-man opening night roster. Jones and the Magic will open the 2012-13 season Friday against the Denver Nuggets.

Jones’ journey to the NBA began in June as an undrafted free agent and receiving a non-roster invitation to the Orlando Magic’s training camp. From there, Jones shined in summer league and again during Orlando’s eight-game preseason slate.

The Stone Mountain, Ga., native appeared in 111 games for the Miami Hurricanes, making 35 starts. He scored 508 points, accumulated 53 assists, blocked 51 shots and swiped 52 steals in his Canes career. As a senior in 2011-12, he averaged 5.9 points, 3.6 rebounds and 17.3 minutes in 23 games. He participated in the 24th annual State Farm College Slam Dunk & 3-Point Championships at the Final Four, advancing to the semifinals of the slam dunk contest.

Year two of the Jim Larranaga era begins Fri., Nov. 2 with a 7 p.m. ET exhibition against Saint Leo at BankUnited Center.

This year the Canes will host numerous high-profile ACC and nonconference opponents at the BankUnited Center in Coral Gables, so fans should call 800-284-2263 now to reserve your tickets. Ticket options include the FAN-tastic 4-Pack and the ACC Weekender Pack. Check out CanesTix.com for more ticket information.

Harry Miller

Miami shows some love to Ricky Town and Bryce Dixon. Coach Carrol flew out to Southern California and met with Ricky and Bryce this past week.
This was a big deal to Rick Town (Dad)for Coach Carrol to keep his word and come visit Ricky and Bryce. He really likes the honesty that he gets from the coaches.He really likes what Coach Golden has planed for the future of Miami football. The more
I Talk with Rick the more I believe Ricky will be a Hurricane. We just need a little help from the NCAA by not killing us.

86Cane

VIRGINIA TECH SERIES HISTORY

Miami holds a 17-12 series advantage against Virginia Tech, but the Hokies have won three straight.

Miami holds a slim 9-7 advantage at home over VT and lost four of the last five meetings in Miami.

Thursday will mark the 21st consecutive season the schools have met, dating back to their years as Big East Conference foes. Virginia Tech holds a 12-9 series edge in conference meetings.

It will also be on the sixth time that neither team is ranked at the time of their meeting.

Last season, Miami overcame a 21-7 second-quarter deficit to take a 35-31 lead late in the fourth quarter on a Lamar Miller 30-yard run in Blacksburg. However, Logan Thomas scampered in from 19 yards out with 56 seconds remaining to give the Hokies the eventual 38-35 win at Lane Stadium.

86Cane

Harry...thanks for the update.

We look forward to seeing U, Rick Town and Ricky Town wearing Orange and Green!!!

Oh yeah, and at the party on the patio.

j.w.

Banned by who, Willie? The ACC did that. It had nothing to do with the NCAA punishment. And self imposing a ban is what you do to pay early for punishment you're bound to receive, not just to look good to the NCAA

orange 'n green in the vein

Willie, color coordination makes things easy to grasp with just a glance my friend:

http://www.philsteele.com/fbsinfo/TeamPages/acc/miami.html

Look at all that red in the defensive portion of the chart man.

I get salty when my alma mater goes 0-October. Add in all that red on that linked chart up there under the watch of the mutants from Philly and it's not a good combination for Hurricane fans, me included.

Now Thursday night Al's got a big opportunity to go a game over .500 at UM by beating a 4-4 team that's never won a national championship to keep driving for an unlikely division championship in 2012, so there's our silver lining and all is not lost yet. I'll be there losing my voice while D'No does his chicken dance signal routine for 35+ minutes of clock time on the sideline. Luckily I bought 24 beers today at the grocery store to prepare me for that display of clownishness.

orange 'n green in the vein

Actually j.w., the NCAA barred UNC from postseason competition due to their violations case punishment which means by ACC bylaws they aren't allowed to play in the championship game, so it was an effect with an NCAA cause if you want to get technical about it.

Montreal-Cane

How much money do the Irish spend to buy the refs year after year?

mi@mic@ne

If you score on the Irish the flags will def come out.. i think its an illegal play or something.

WWIN

And self imposing a ban is what you do to pay early for punishment you're bound to receive, not just to look good to the NCAA

Posted by: j.w. | October 27, 2012 at 09:12 PM

So why do teams self impose bans?? To look good to the NCAA to not get the hammer dropped on em. No team wants to self impose anything. Which is the position we're in right now. I would prefer a lighter punishment from the NCAA than to go the acccg, I rather have a earlier shot at the ncg than acccg

WWIN

OGV,

I've been one of D'nos worst critics and said that he needs to be fired. But how could I be real and say that he still needs to go when he's showing improvement. Yes everybody knows his first 18 games have been the worst in school history but what's happening RECENTLY improvement. So we should still fire him regardless of if he's improving or not??? I go off of the motto " what have you done for me lately" and if you go off of that you should be calling for Fisch's head not D'nos. I for one don't want to fire anyone I'm just stating who should be fired now if someone should be fired

86Cane

Luckily I bought 24 beers today at the grocery store to prepare me for that display of clownishness.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | October 27, 2012 at 09:16 PM

OGV...U realize that UM has absolutely no chance of beating VT because of your lover.

Terrance Sullivan

Everyone knows D'No called the fade pattern on 3 and 2 in the red zone against FSU. Lol

orange 'n green in the vein

Look at the whole body of work at UM and there's no argument against the OC and for the DC Willie. The only defensive improvement has been attributable to the increased frequency of big play negating penalties being called against the opposition and what wins where secured where thanks to prodigious offensive production.

Your argument for skipping a potential championship game actually makes a lot of sense to me. I'd just add if it becomes an issue I think it'll come down to a wager by the staff of how much benefit recruiting would reap by competing for a BCS bowl versus how much extra penalty will be levied if they do so. I really think you treat that potential title game like your bowl game, take your second shot at the Indians and risk it if you get to the Orange Bowl, self impose a ban if you lose again and miss out on what, the Music City bowl? I know that'd actually steam you a little bit but the trade would help in the long run.

orange 'n green in the vein

No he sure didn't T. Sully, but he sure did have Thompson covered by a converted LB into a DE with a rebuilt knee just before he the most dangerous FSU skill player tore up his own.

orange 'n green in the vein

Great news SOUPster! USF found a way to lose by one at home with three ticks on the clock left tonight after blowing a double digit halftime lead! Patrick and V. Hargreaves Sr., COME ON HOME BABY! GOING TO LET YOUR BOY BARROW CALL THE PLAYS!

DallasTX Cane

I'm no ND fan, but the holding on OU's 1st TD was a pretty obvious call.

ND beating OU in the 4th in Norman, K State makes yet another D (Tuberville's no less) look Swiss cheese, and fsu makes Duke look like Duke again....

If we'd taken the gift unc offered up & won that game, I'd prob be feeling a lot better about the season.

Terrance Sullivan

Great point OGV

Montreal-Cane

Another call from the ref for f.....g Irish

mi@mic@ne

Another obvious bogus call for ND... 55 fell on the ground and the ball hit the ground ..wow ..nice cheat

DallasTX Cane

Herbie explained the rule & the call. U guys not listening?

WWIN

I hate notre dame wit the best of em but if they lose that makes us look bad as well as any other team that's beaten us

orange 'n green in the vein

I'm just going to float this out there;

ND vs. KSU.

National championship, bluest of blue-blood vs. the all time FBS futility standard bearer.

Beats the hell out of ND vs. Alabama, blue-blood vs. bluer-blood.

Hassan

****Rumor****

Not official but word is Gabe Terry is suspended for fighting and other stuff.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2012/10/nfl-evaluators-assess-state-of-um-program-dolphins-um-heat-marlins-notes.html


NFL scouts assess UM roster

Montreal-Cane

Tim Reynolds:

ACC vs ranked teams this season: 2-16. Notre Dame vs ranked teams this season: 4-0.

WWIN

OGV,

No one can deny that Fisch's body of work looks much better than D'nos but which one would you rather fire, the one on the rise or the one declining????

Montreal-Cane

Notre Dame will lose at USC.

orange 'n green in the vein

Willie, we disagree if one is on the rise or not. You see improvement over the last few weeks by the defense I'm getting from your comments, I'm seeing more of the same ineptitude just with more flags being tossed by the refs against the opposition. I'd rather get rid of the inept coach (that's D'No of course) and keep the one who knows what he's doing if UM can (that's Fisch).

Monty, USC is more over hyped than usual this year and their depth is worse than normal. ND isn't losing to them, or anybody for that matter, this regular season, sorry.

WWIN

OGV, flags against who????????

orange 'n green in the vein

Against the team UM is trying to stop and failing to do so unless penalties are called against them.

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