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October 03, 2012

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86Cane

NEW BLOG IS UP!

86Cane

Just got back from Tallahassee.

What did I miss?

86Cane

Funnily enough, Miami Hockey twitter page just started following Canespace today. Lol

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 04, 2012 at 03:37 PM

Ohio...get ALL over that. Invite them here to do a FIVE questions feature ASAP!

NativeCane


Irish tough guy behind a keyboard:

http://youtu.be/-4-DhGgTShI

Posted by: tjl3909 | October 04, 2012 at 05:51 PM

El Dorko challenges the U. LOLOL

Go Canes!!!

tjl3909

Irish tough guy behind a keyboard:

http://youtu.be/-4-DhGgTShI

4-Real

Told yall Shalala is fn up!!!!

Montreal-Cane

University of Miami Men's Ice Hockey Schedule

http://umicehockey.posterous.com/2012-2013-schedule-announced

Montreal-Cane

Slideshow of University of Miami Hockey team vs Florida International University on March 6th, 2011. final score UM-11, FIU-3.

CaneRock thanks for the link.

Montreal-Cane

By TIM REYNOLDS AP Oct. 4 1:14 PM EDT


...The NCAA is expected to provide Miami with its notice of allegations later this year. Once that happens, sanctions typically follow in about 90 days.

Miami's athletic director for the period of some of those alleged violations was Kirby Hocutt, who left for Texas Tech last year. And now, the person who replaced him and vowed to help clean up the NCAA mess is also gone.

Eichorst was believed to be working closely with the NCAA during the joint inquiry into the athletic department, so his departure comes at a difficult time for both the department and the university, which is already dealing with a number of issues unrelated to the investigation, such as dwindling football attendance and major financial problems involving its highly touted medical school...

CaneRock

CGNC with the NHL lockout we will have to find a way to follow Canes hockey...lol...

Posted by: Montreal-Cane | October 04, 2012 at 03:28 PM

The hockey jerseys are BADASS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWUbEZOFCgE

Montreal-Cane

Bitching at Miami again...
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8460458/miami-hurricanes-athletic-director-shawn-eichorst-leaves-nebraska-cornhuskers

CGNC

LOL I am going to have to start twitter to follow the canes hockey!

Montreal-Cane

Donna Edna Shalala born February 14, 1941
Time for a new president.

Montreal-Cane

Yes Ohio i saw that...Funny.

Ohio_Cane


CGNC with the NHL lockout we will have to find a way to follow Canes hockey...lol...

Posted by: Montreal-Cane | October 04, 2012 at 03:28 PM
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Funnily enough, Miami Hockey twitter page just started following Canespace today. Lol

Montreal-Cane

CGNC with the NHL lockout we will have to find a way to follow Canes hockey...lol...

Montreal-Cane

http://coachoftheyear.com/

Vote for Al Golden

Lou of M

1 mil to run the Nebraska Ath dept. these guys reek the benefits while these kids sacrifice their bodies. everyone but the athletes are becoming rich off the sport.

Hassan


Soup you got mail

Montreal-Cane

The invisible man gone 2 days prior to the ND game...What a class act...It shows you how bad Shalala is for hiring key people.
Donna time to retire.

Bruce Feldman - Miami should consider USC Sr asc AD Mark Jackson for AD job. Was instrumental in facility upgrades & he's dealt w what UM is abt to go thru.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 04, 2012 at 12:33 PM


I agree Mark Jackson would be a good choice but Pete Garcia is a good candidate also. I believe Golden will have some suggestions.

WWIN

WE HAVE NOTRE DAME IN 2 DAYS AND THE DEBATE FOR PRESIDENT IS ALL OVER THE BLOG?I NEED TO SPEAK TO A MANAGER

Posted by: canezilla | October 04, 2012 at 10:42 AM

LMAO!!!!!

herbieibis

"F" the A.D. job any stiff can do it. We got bigger problems, with inpending sanctions & our pillow cushion defense. The AD ain't going to help us win games, he can only hire the hangman.

tjl3909

Hire Pete Garcia from FIU-He's excellent and is a LOCAL GUY

Tired of these carpetbaggers coming and going

Ohio_Cane

UM DB Rayshawn Jenkins out of the Notre Dame game with an "upper extremity'' injury. Also out: OT Ben Jones, DT Pierre, DT Porter.

3G Cane

UMike- Amen

Ohio_Cane

Papa Cane on AD search - "Too early to tell. Lots of resumes coming in. Big names."

UMike

Hopefully we don't let it come down to the refs

3G Cane

Since were the visiting team, shouldn't there be ACC officials? Not sure how that works

Posted by: UMike
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Should be but you never know what kind of bunk deal Hocutt worked out for us. That being said the ACC officiating we've had to deal with so far this season has been abysmal. Almost as bad as Terry Porter who is a Buckeye FYI being allowed to call a title game.

UMike

Since were the visiting team, shouldn't there be ACC officials? Not sure how that works

UMike

Ohio...I saw it on twitter both ways...either way he is the current AD lol

3G Cane

Anyone know what officiating crew we will have to suffer through on Saturday??? I've been searching and searching but no luck yet.

Hassan

He is interim. He is not the long term solution

Ohio_Cane

Blake james promoted..search over

Posted by: UMike | October 04, 2012 at 01:30 PM
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That would be "acting AD" or "interim AD" would it not? They didn't just automatically fill the position, did they?

Ohio_Cane

#1 prospect in the nation last year:

"Mizzou freshman Dorial Green-Beckham, Levi Copelin & Tory Boozer arrested for possession of marijuana, suspended."

UMike

Blake james promoted..search over

Old Skool

In other news...

Former Boston Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling might have to sell the famed blood-stained sock he wore during the 2004 World Series to cover millions of dollars in loans he guaranteed to his failed video game company.

Thank God he'd didn't have hemorrhoids

raizecane

Blake James is in his third year with the University of Miami Athletics Department serving as Senior Associate Athletic Director for Development and Ticket Operations. James is responsible for several aspects of the Hurricanes' athletics operations. He oversees the day-to-day operations of development, ticket sales and ticket operations. James is also a member of the Hurricanes' senior staff and provides sport supervision. James came to UM after spending five years (2005-10) as the Director of Athletics at the University of Maine.

James is no stranger to south Florida, beginning his athletic career with the University of Miami, working in ticket sales, corporate sales and athletic development. James also has experience working atNebraska and Providence College.

He graduated from Minnesota State University - Mankato with a bachelor's degree in marketing in 1992 and later received his master's degree from St. Thomas University in 1994.

He and his wife, Kelly, have two children - daughter, Haley, and son, Ryan.

j.w.

Blake James Acting AD, eh? What's the word on him?

Old Skool

Eichorst's starting salary at Nebraska will be $973,000 annually, believed to be a significant raise over his Miami deal. As a private school, the Hurricanes typically do not release contract information.

CaneRock

Former UM great Alonzo Highsmith has been busy tweeting this morning:

"Donna listen," Highsmith tweeted, referring to UM president Donna Shalala, "Find an AD with vision, passion, guts, decision maker, leader, knows and respects program , knows the culture, man of people!"

Alonzo also tweeted this: I wouldn't know Miami AD if he told me who he was and that's all u need to know!!

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2012/10/um-canes-athletic-director-shawn-eichorst-could-be-on-his-way-out-to-nebraska.html#storylink=cpy

dg

How bad must Shalala be to Athletics? Damn just pick an AD from a hat. This tells you how bad it is...

DallasTX Cane

Thanks VA. I think you're right...age and experience mellows most "facts" into opinions.

raizecane

I say we elect Porky Pig for both President and our next AD.

"Th-Th-Th-Th-Th-... That's all, folks

Ohio_Cane

Matthew Thomas Warming Up to Miami, Trusts Al Golden. "He isn’t going to be the last Booker T. guy you are going to see out there.”

http://acc.xofan.com/Miami/matthew-thomas-warming-up-to-miami-trusts-al-golden/

Ohio_Cane

Bruce Feldman - Miami should consider USC Sr Asc AD Mark Jackson for AD job. Was instrumental in facility upgrades & he's dealt w what UM is abt to go thru.

86Cane

All I did was ask a question after the debate. One comment that was relevant at that time. Ok, no more politics, I get it.

VA Cane

Personally, I'm light years better off today than I was four years ago but your mileage may vary.

OGV, I commend you on your command of the English language and the way you put sentences together. You have a wit and manner that is truly admirable. Keep up the good work.

DTX well put my friend. I really do respect opinions as thats all my thoughts are. I think when I was younger, much younger, I was convinced that all I spewed were absolute facts. Funny how over the years I have realized that most of what I opine is my opinion....and it is going to be different than the next persons. Thats what makes us unique!! I am certainly renewing my vows to read and think before I hit post or send....and I mean that in a positve light with respect for others.

Eichorst and Hocutt are fly by nighters; nothing really special, just making a buck, they could care less about the institution. We have had a lot of that here; guys just could not do what it takes in many areas....Clappy and Onionhead come to mind...and hey its a hard job.....you did not see me included in the last coaching search. It is a job that is similar to musical chairs; happens on a regular basis in this biz.

orange 'n green in the vein

Presidential elections here have in the last fifteen years boiled down to basically two things; exciting your base to get out the vote and disenfranchising your opponents base to varying degrees in order to win electoral votes you shouldn't have. I highly doubt a 'debate' performance (they had the questions that were asked beforehand, it's a political dog and pony show) is going to cause any of those two factors to change substantially either way for either corporate backed candidate. Personally, I'm light years better off today than I was four years ago but your mileage may vary.

At least Eichorst got the Larranaga hire right. Thanks for that. Hope he kept his NCAA-nose clean, which would be a small miracle given recent UM AD history.

Hassan


Bernie Kosar will get it, he is already on the Board of trustees and he needs a job lol

DallasTX Cane

It's funny how often the CANES "family" is invoked as a way of differentiating UM fans from other around the country. Us against the world. Yet, everyone spirals up & outta control immediately when an opinion U don't agree with is voiced.

Over the years there have been many very interesting non-sports discussions on this blog; but only when the participants had the self-control to avoid personal attacks & pull back when the blog got overwhelmed. At the end of the day, it's our collective love for the CANES that should unite us. Respect everyone's opinion & folks will respect yours.

BLH

Raize

I doubt Golden has any kind of say - separation of powers, so to speak, like the executive and legislative branches. AD hires and fires the coach.

As far as to whether this has anything to do with possible impending sanctions, I doubt it, although I wouldn't be absolute about it like Ohio.

If we step back and look at it dispassionately, Eich left for greener pastures. Nebraska has a much bigger athletic dept, with a much bigger budget, more sports, and he is replacing a legend in Osborne

Now don't get me wrong, I think it was a classless thing to do, the timing is awful, and I do think it speaks poorly of him to leave, but I also wouldn't read too much into it.

If I were hiring for any job, I wouldn't be all over a serial jumper like Eichorst, but that's just my opinion

raizecane

How about "in-house" = Tony Hernandez??

UMike

How about pete garcia....I think I got the name right...was here under davis..I think is the ad at FIU now

2002nemo


Yes, Eichorst = Gone to Nebraska

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 04, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Did he really care about the U? Did he really love the U? No, not really. DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE!

raizecane

http://nebraska.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1417773

raizecane

Losing two AD's in less than 2 years is pathetic. No other college team has had to go through this crap. Stability starts from the top and we are on shakey grounds....

So now who does Miami persue, will AG have a say, and how long do you think it will take?

3G Cane

EMBRACE THE HATE!!!

[]_[] GO CANES []_[]

raizecane


Also before it's asked, No, this is NOT because of the NCAA investigation

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 04, 2012 at 10:21 AM

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And I have beach front property to sell you in Nebraska, LOL

Old Skool

Damn does Eichorst ever unpack?

Felipe.

Oh wow, I can't read when I wake up. That's Lou of M. My bad.

Felipe.

Hey now Mary Lou :\ Barry Alvarez would've done great at the U.

VA Cane

Thanks for the podium, and I am sorry I offended anyone this morning. Have a great day!! VAC

VA Cane

I say to you now, I will never discuss another topic on this blog...Music, Politics, The Country, The City, Baseball, My Team, or anything else other than football....I can safely say...at least I think I can....that is a subject I do know something about. So there is my plan, and I will stick to it. Some people here can make a comment in regards to others and not mean anything by it...anothers opinion does not bother me I respect it...others are more sensitive and it ends up causing pain and anger. I respect both positions, and promise from this day not to deviate from the task at hand. It will be much easier and cleaner this way. JMO

UpNorthCane27

DING DING DING!!!! and it seems like the political gloves are off here on the Canespace blog.....

UMike

Canezilla..it was started by the manager lol

canezilla

WE HAVE NOTRE DAME IN 2 DAYS AND THE DEBATE FOR PRESIDENT IS ALL OVER THE BLOG?I NEED TO SPEAK TO A MANAGER

CaneRock

Anybody who wants to redistribute wealth i not my choice.

Posted by: VA Cane | October 04, 2012 at 10:11 AM

REALLY?! Are you wealthy? I thought you said you were having a hard time finding work, so why would you care if President Obama wants to "redistribute wealth" or not...

Besides, EVERY POTUS has redistributed wealth in one way or the other, so I guess that makes America a "socialist" country...

UMike

SOUP....there are suppose to be no politics here...no place for it...YET..it appears you started a debate about it lol...ill check in later when the political crap is over

dj moonbat

Romney is a rich guy who is out of touch but has some free market roots. Obama is a socialist who belives some of the Marxist doctrine, and Chicago is where the Kool Aid is made. Anybody who wants to redistribute wealth i not my choice. JMO

Posted by: VA Cane | October 04, 2012 at 10:11 AM


Oh, yeah, NOW I remember why I stopped coming by this place...

Lou of M

UM, please stop hiring people from Wisconsin. You didnt learn from your last hiring.

Ohio_Cane

Also before it's asked, No, this is NOT because of the NCAA investigation

Ohio_Cane

And before it's asked, No, that doesn't effect Golden in any way, shape, or form.

Ohio_Cane

Yes, Eichorst = Gone to Nebraska

UpNorthCane27

Oooo woww^^

VA Cane

Romney is a rich guy who is out of touch but has some free market roots. Obama is a socialist who belives some of the Marxist doctrine, and Chicago is where the Kool Aid is made. Anybody who wants to redistribute wealth i not my choice. JMO

I think ND has a pretty good D. We have to run and pass block effectively; we cannot have either or. We cannot turn the ball over, and have stupid penalties...especially emotional loud mouth (ie SWAG) crap. Under Onion and Clappy we talked too much. Have not seen that under AG, he is the boss. We do not need too much input from the alumni Canes who played in these games yes it means alot, play hard etc is ok... but some cats go over the top they were talkers and the game is not played like that any longer.They do not coach, and should encourage the kids, but do not feed them full of S**T. We must run and pass.

On D, we have to tackle, and we have to get some pressure. Their QB is mobile, so tackle him. They have not lit it up on O...Atkinson III is a slick back, TE is good. If we can paly solid, not spectacular....cover people, tackle, do not give up big ones, get a TO or 2 and play smart no talking...we can win.

I am torn between saying it is a dull low scorer and a willd west show....I hope for something in between a good solid exciting but not circus game....but hey who knows. I know I want to win, and I think the young Canes do as well. Give it all you got.

UpNorthCane27

true dj moonbat and im guilty of stating my two cents and i spologize to the members of the blog.....

This should be straight canes football and aports blog.

dj moonbat

Well, apparently the house rules have changed from "no politics" to "conservative politics welcome."

Not cool.

UpNorthCane27

Tsully, is it a done deal that Elchorst is leaving?

Tsully76

Looks like our Canes gotta get a new athletic director.

CGNC

Happy Thursday party people!

Are the Canes in Chicago yet?

NativeCane


It appeared that Romney won the debate with confidence?

Did it seem that Obama looked flustered and unsure?

Posted by: SOUP | October 03, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Yes, Yes, and Yes!

Romney clearly won the debate.

Go Canes!!!

Beat Scrotal Dame!!!

UpNorthCane27

Romeny has so many ideas and yet i haven't heard any details about any of them. He likes to insult our intelligence.... F***** clown!!!

Back to regular programming....

Lets goooooo Canes, the time is coming lets give the golden domers a S*** Storm !!!

dj moonbat

If the Canes do not turn the ball over and they execute on their assignments on offense (no missed blocks or dropped passes), the Canes can score a lot of points on ND or any other defense in the country for that matter.

Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | October 04, 2012 at 06:30 AM

The rankings for scoring defense of the teams we've played so far: Boston College 76th, KSU 22nd, Bethune Cookman N/A, Georgia Tech 69th, NCSU 45th.

The ranking for Notre Dame: 3rd.

We haven't played a Top 20 defense yet. KSU was the only scoring defense ranked in the top 40, and they allowed Miami only a single offensive touchdown.

So it's a big leap of faith to assume that Miami can score big against a quality defense. I mean, I guess it's true that if there are "no missed blocks and no dropped passes" Miami can do well. But the whole point of good defense is that you MAKE teams miss their blocks, drop passes, and make other mistakes.

I'm not saying Notre Dame IS a quality defense. Just that if it turns out they are, Miami's pretty much going to lose.

Old Skool

Gibson's has good steaks but be prepared to wait. I was there on a Tuesday night and the wait was close to 45 minutes to be seated. Also, they cram diners into their dining areas. You can virtually eat off the neighboring tables. The waiters have to be anorexic gymnasts to be able to maneuver between them.

BigWindyCane1

If the Canes do not turn the ball over and they execute on their assignments on offense (no missed blocks or dropped passes), the Canes can score a lot of points on ND or any other defense in the country for that matter.

I think we will see Seantrel back in the starting lineup, with some rotation among the tackles. If the offensive line plays well against the ND front seven, it will be a long day for the Irish D. In addition, the Canes will look to get 70 or 80 plays off.

This game could tell me a lot about the direction of the program. As much as I complain about the team, they have the best QB and offense I have seen in Coral Gables in over a decade. As for as resilience and fortitude, this Canes team has shown more heart than any I have seen. This is a much better team that the one that lost to KSU, and it can get a whole lot better.

I think program is moving in a championship direction under Golden's leadership, but we will learn a lot more about this team after Saturday night. A win on Saturday night will permanent restore the Canes to the college football elite.

BigWindyCane1

The Canes could go a long way if they can come out this week and stop the run. I know that is a big "if", but they got more depth at LB and they are starting to rotate their DTs well. Canes are developing depth at DT, but have no dominant DT at this time. I see future potential though. The Canes could use Porter and Pierre through. I simply do not see the kind of dominance and penetration out of the DTs consistently. It time for the Canes to take that next step.

D'No runs a complicated scheme, and I think the safeties and linebackers must do a lot better job of reading their keys, communicating and knowing their assignments. In addition, when a player gets in position to make a tackle, they have to wrap up and get it done. Missed tackles are the biggest cause of huge running plays.

We will see.

jerry

If Obama gets reelected americas economy and lifestyle are going to get worst than DNOs D!!!! that if they are not already!!!

WWIN

Posted by: The Dude | October 04, 2012 at 01:05 AM

Ray Lewis was developed into what he is now by his coaches at Da U. So do you think that D'no would have developed him into what he is today???

We use to turn 3* barely recruited players into all-americans. Can D'no do that? Right now I don't think so, but time will tell, I PRAY that I'm wrong.

Felipe

That firing Big Bird meme is so viral it's incredible.

Looks like internet trolls are already shifting the narrative of the debate fallout pretty effectively.

As for Obama, he's up 13 in a state that Walker won and Ryan's from. (11-14 pts, Marquette poll) He's basically in Prevent mode right now.

Romney won the spot polling with the undecideds about 3:2, but not that many undecideds left and he's absolutely being crushed by a few structural demographic shifts in several states that have skewed away from Republicans since Bush (non-Cuban Latinos, soccer moms). Obama's even +8 & hitting 50 in Ohio. Didn't happen in 08' polling until the week before the election.

Romney needs a 1960 style game changer out of the debate and he hasn't had that yet.

But he absolutely won the opening argument on style points and "Marlboro Man Americana Machismo." Best description ever, nice Zakkee. My parents are RNC donors and lived off of "Marlboro Points" and the gizmos they could get from smoking a carton a week, so that description hits home.

The Dude

Posted by: SJMPARMAN | October 04, 2012 at 12:30 AM

How did Obama NOT ask him if he didnt just etch and sketched his tax plan? Seriously, I was sitting there just waiting for that comeback.

The Dude

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | October 04, 2012 at 01:01 AM

Really? Ray Lewis? Thee Ray Lewis? A young Ray Lewis? I DISAGREE! Ray Lewis would take this sh*t off D'No's hands. Ray says "I got this!"

WWIN

Posted by: SJMPARMAN | October 04, 2012 at 12:30 AM

I don't who we play matters with this defensive scheme, even if we had ray Lewis it would still give up 400+ yds a game. I'm praying I'm wrong tho, and the D will turn the corner

The Dude

Posted by: SOUP | October 03, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Yeah, I think Romney was strong. He did change up his platform though and the @sshole fired Big Bird. Obama had good moments too but overall I will say Romney won by a little in just that he was being assertive and seeming to have more substance than most thought. He wasnt his usual awkward self.

CoCane

I would agree with SJ but if that was the case, why is McGee starting over 5*, #1, ranked, all american Tracy Howard? Why is Shayon Green starting over Williams, McCord & Hamilton? Ijs

Zakkee

Romney won the show/debate on theatrics and Marlboro Man Americana machismo. Not for content.

Romney bullied the moderator and Obama came across as the angry, flustered, and unprepared....of course.

He wasn't prepared for that trickeration.

"What is Obama talking about?... I'm a businessman and have never heard of tax cuts going to businesses that take there companies overseas?!?"

Our collective intelligence was insulted tonight.

WWIN

Soup,

Just messin witcha

SJMPARMAN

I don't want to turn his into politics but when you say something for 18 months, and say something is not in your plan, when you have campaigned on that plan for 18 months, you do have an obligation to say exactly what your plan is when you switch gears like Romney did. They told us he would etch a sketch and that is what he did. He came in as one candidate with one idea and emerged as a different candidate. Now, lets see the specifics. Can he provide them? I suspect not.

On a football note, I am more concerned about our plan for this week. I am still not seeing from anything I read anything but the youth movement on defense in Coral Gables. Olson Pierre goes out and we don't have someone to replace him other than a guy who has never played a down of college football before this game? When we have juniors and seniors who could replace him? What does that tell us? Who you play is a choice. If you lose because you choose to play freshman over experienced players, please don't blame your defensive problems on inexperience or inconsistency.

I think that is the problem here. Kelvin Cain is a good football player and he has made plays for us during his career. But he is pushed aside because he wasn't recruited by this staff. Luther Robinson causes the big fumble at BC and doesn't see the field since in favor of the guys this staff recruited? I am sorry but that isn't player development. That is a wing and a prayer philosophy of relying on freshman talent over guys who have actually played college ball.

Experience matters. It matters in life when you do your job. It matters in love when you make mistakes before you find your loved one. It matters in how you manage your money. You wouldn't hire a money manager who is fresh out of college to manage your money. It is too important to take the chance. I think the Hurricane defense is also too important to just rely on all the young guys and not to value the experience of guys who have actually played the game. Again, this is a CHOICE, and the question has to be whether as a defensive coordinator, that is a WISE choice. I think NOT.

You don't do that against FSU in Tallahassee, it wasn't a wise choice at BC or at KSU, and against ND, it could be disasterous. We got away with it against GT because not because of the choice. I hope I am wrong but I just think it isn't a smart thing to do in this game.

Zakkee

It appeared that Romney won the debate with confidence?

Did it seem that Obama looked flustered and unsure?

Posted by: SOUP | October 03, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Nope thats called wishful thinking. He was flustered because Romney changed his politics tonight for the debate lol! He was understandably miffed as he was facing a candidate that refuted all of his own previous statements. Romney's camp is banking on voters being unaware of his previous platform and speeches--and they are correct--most people are ignorant or rightfully just not that interested. He's boring, we've seen this politician before (he's the prototypical conservative businessman--big head, nice smile--great head of hair blah blah blah).

His selling point is that he isn't Obama (remember my earlier post about defining one's self based on what/who you are not, instead of who you are)?

A str8 puppet show lol!

CGNC

86 - I thought you were going up for the ND game?

CGNC

Posted by: Montreal-Cane | October 03, 2012 at 09:52 PM

Wish we could see them play!

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