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October 21, 2012

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CaneRock

My biggest question with the coaching staff is personnel placement.

First off, why is Chickillo lined up on the strongside?

Why did they put McCord and Howard on the same side during the game? And most importantly, why was Howard lined up as a strong-side CB, nevermind boundary or field?

Why is Jelani Hamilton!...NOT a strongside DE?

Why don't we just call it a day and put Bush and Cornelius at the Safeties? If I'm not mistaken, didn't Cornelius have a big stick in the game...

4-Real

Quinton, no way our staff goes after Paul James. He has 2 many major offers.

CGNC

LOL you ran into Jacory - did you catch up with Lamar Miller?

Let's Go Canes

WWIN

86 I DISAGREE. THE ONLY LOSS WE SHOULD HAVE THIS YEAR WAS TO K-STATE.NOTRE DAME COULD BE BEAT.IF DORSET CAUGHT THE PASS AND D DIDNT DROP THE INT.IT WOULD BE A DIFFRENT BALL GAME.OH ALSO IF WE HAD NEW UNIS WE WOULD OF BEAT K-STATE...NO?

Posted by: canezilla | October 22, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Damn straight

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86Cane

Why don't we just call it a day and put Bush and Cornelius at the Safeties? If I'm not mistaken, didn't Cornelius have a big stick in the game...

Posted by: CaneRock | October 22, 2012 at 11:18 AM

AGREED! And the answer is YES he did have a BIG hit during the game. I would be OK with Bush and Jenkins at Safety. Sure Jenkins may make some mistakes but let him learn now for next year. PLAY AGRESSIVE!

raizecane

Off topic but has anybody heard from our old pal, Six?? He has been MIA for a while and I miss his 411.

86Cane

Quinton, no way our staff goes after Paul James. He has 2 many major offers.

Posted by: 4-Real | October 22, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Like I said: Less than a doorknob.

86Cane

Raize...talked to him via email just last week. He told me he has been in touch with CGNC recently also.

He told me basically he can't take the negativity on the blog so he GAVE up trying to make sense by talking to some people on here who know less than a doorknob and the like.

LB

"And I am OK with that. It is the UNC loss that was unacceptable IMHO."

+1.

UMike

Anyone had any idea what luther robinsons dad said on wqam..heard he was talking bad and airing dirty laundry

raizecane

86 - it's too bad a few doorknobs made him run off. I always enjoyed what he brought to the table.

raizecane

I just remembered about our trip with Six to the Rays game.......best seats I ever had.

CoCane

Are they going after Paul James?

panamacitycane

When you saw lamar did you point out how good this team could have been if everyone didnt leave early? I know you didnt but man I wish they would have stayed. Oh well..we need to heal up for the last stretch of the season..all these teams are beatable easily but how many times have we said that and turned around and got beat...how many close games with duke when theu should be blow outs?

Defense is looking better over the past couple games..I think the offense is going conservative due to injuries and maybe all the dropped passes caused us to be scared of the deep ball now?

Ken roberts

The game was on replay last nite on some of the espn channels.

There has been question, do we have the talent and bad coaching, or good coaching and no talent. Golden seems to be saying that we have bad talent and the coaching is OK.

So, OK big guy, hit the recruiting trail and bring in the bacon. Gotta get ready for UF next year.

CGNC

Raize - yeah I exchanged emails with Six, he has been crazy busy too

4-Real

Blaming the kids that he recruited and is failing 2 develop. Class act.

j.w.

4-real? When did he do that? I read as much as everyone, and if Golden has one trait you can rely on, it's never blaming anyone. He has their backs even when its obvious someone isn't getting the job done.

LB

North Carolina was an awful loss, the worst of the bunch. Good news: our opponents are pretty awful (with the exception of Duke).

More good news: we get an off week.

We need some monsters on the d-line to start eating offenses. That cures a lot of ills.

How about a tight end to come in and just start killing defenses?

I have no issues with Golden or Fisch. The winds are sailing back to QBU. Now we need to provide them with weapons.

calGary Cane

Blaming the kids that he recruited and is failing 2 develop. Class act.

Posted by: 4-Real | October 22, 2012 at 01:28 PM

2 part accusation...

failing 2 develop...not sure how you can come to the conclusion so fast. Please let me know you figure that there has been no (insufficient) development.

4-Real

Definitely need 2 hit the recruiting trail hard & heavy, and no more experiments. Giving schollys 2 kids @ summer camp cuz they move their hips well in shorts is absurd. Gotta start back battling the Bamas & Floriduhs 4 recruits and not the Marshalls & Western Michigans.

Herbieibis

A few words from the Herb.
Morris had a chance to throw the ball away and instead coughed it up to set up FSU's first TD.
I get throwing the ball to the backs but 12 to 15 times is going over board.
We are still not utilizing all our weapons on offense, ah la our TE's. Maybe their not great but we have to throw something besides a 5 yd pass to them.
Are you kidding me a fade, with 2 yds to go for a first down, why not use Hagens.
I look at Sports Center and I see other teams wr's running open all day and we can't get anyone open.
I'll tell you why our dl line gets gutted:
King **
Smith***
Ivery***
Moore***
Pierre***
Robinson***
Grimble ****
Porter***
I don't want to even mention the LB's because we have one 4 star.
Either Jethro ain't doing his job or you can't tell me stars don't matter.
I get the fact that we are young and the worm will turn, it's just not fast enough sometimes. I like the potential of this team, just not the scheme. If we're going down, lets go down in a blaze of glory, let's play press coverage all over the field not just inside the 20 and lets blitz more, because our interior defense ain't getting to the QB, without it.
FSU, like UNC tried to give us the game but once again we just didn't want it, with some of the play calling. We got by with a couple of sweeps but going to the well once to often against speed ain't happening. The defense played admirably but for the 8TH game in a row we coughed up over 2oo yds on the ground not a recipe for winning football and this is why we will be lucky to finish 6-6 and we desperately need 6 wins, with the NCAA hangmans noose dangling over our heads!

canezilla

DUKE NEXT THREE GAMES ARE FSU,CLEMSON,GT,THEN US.I THINK...REALLY I THINK WE CAN RULE DUKE OUT OF THE ACCCG RIGHT?????

canezilla

NEXT THURSDAYS GAME WILL BE THE WHOLE SEASON,,,IM IN GAME MODE RIGHT NOW.CANES BETTER SHOW UP FOR THIS ONE..THURSDAY NIGHT PRIME TIME..GET IN WHERE U FIT IN LETS DO IT!!!!!

WWIN

I think u will find if you follow the NFL draft? A great majority of the first rd draft picks are 1-3 star picks !! JJ Watt not rated!! -- Alonzo Highsmith (@alonzohighsmith)

j.w.

Willie Will: that is simply not true. The majority of 1-3 round picks are 4 and 5 stars. Phil Steele did something on this last year. There isn't as big a correlation between stars and productivity in the NFL, but among draft choices there is. Everyone remembers the exceptions, but they are not the majority.

4-Real

None of them Hurricanes though Will lol.

Brevardcane

I think this team will get better. It's just that we didn't get into this mess in one season and so we are not getting out of it in one season either.

tjl3909

I watched the game again and thought Trel did a good job against the DE,s particularly the german dude. Trel ate that guy up on running plays and pushed him out of the way to the outside on pass plays. The sacks given up were not on him. I guess Susan from the herald is happy?

tjl3909

Bunche has a horrible time with speed rushers

CaneRock

Bunche has a horrible time with speed rushers

Posted by: tjl3909 | October 22, 2012 at 02:30 PM

Yeah, Carradine was eating His ass up.

86Cane

THURSDAY NIGHT PRIME TIME..GET IN WHERE U FIT IN LETS DO IT!!!

Posted by: canezilla | October 22, 2012 at 01:51 PM

I am ALL over it!

pbcfrcane13

CAN'T WAIT!!!!!

86Cane

I just remembered about our trip with Six to the Rays game.......best seats I ever had.

Posted by: raizecane | October 22, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Best ANY of us have ever had and maybe ever will unless we hit the Lotto.

pbcfrcane13

Golden was great on Wqam this morning if you didn't hear it I would. The best part about it was when he talked about getting Jucos....

Basicallly he said he doesn't like that because if he would have done that when he came in now all the kids would be gone by the end of this year and he would be starting over next year with young kids and no PT experance. Also stating that he will use them to fill the roster with needs. He said hes like a GM....and he stated that he knows what this team is going to look like from today...2013,14,15. Basically what I got from it was that Golden is not worried about trying to fix this team for this season he's going to set this up like Butch set it up to the point by year 4-5 the team is set up for a 5 year run.

People need to understand that this isnt' the late 80s early 90s late 90s early 2000s.....this is late 70s and mid 90s were we are at right now. With the sanctions your not going to find that many more coaches who are going to want this job....maybe Mario would, but thats about it. Golden has done what all fans want he got you a top 10 recruiting class in his first full year of recruiting even with sanctions hanging over his head. Now we need to see if he can develop them. This D is starting to show flashes. now lets see what happens when they can get bigger and faster if they can start trusting them to play different schemes.

WWIN

4-real,

What about ed reed or santana moss???

pbcfrcane13

What did LUther dad say on the radio I missed it?

Dude on a Pale Horse

I am kind of liking where our D is going. LOVE Denzel and Johnson is coming along. We still need 3 more guys to step up. CB looks good. Finnie and Gunter and Howard next year. Safety is still an issue but Bush reminds me a little of Kenny Phillips. DL is still a work in progress. Pierre is talented. Chick will get better and McCord is coming on now. We still need a nose tackle.

Zakkee

j.w.

Either way, though, Golden said Morris’ teammates need to provide more help, whether it’s the receivers catching passes or the linemen holding blocks.

“Stephen was hit too many times [against FSU] to have a good completion percentage,” Golden said of Morris, who completed 25 of 43 passes for 223 yards against FSU with one touchdown and one interception.

“He didn’t practice all week because of his injury. And then, as the game went on and we got behind by two [scores], he started to take more hits and more pressure.”

Golden acknowledged that the running game needs to be more productive. Against FSU, Johnson was held to 27 yards on nine carries, and Mike James had 25 yards on seven rushes.

“A lot of the runs we tried left us in second-and-long [situations],” Golden said. “Then we got behind, and it became very difficult to stay with the run game. The [run-pass ratio] got skewed late in the game, and Florida State is a tough team to get balance with.”

This comments are examples of how Golden is evading any responsibility for performance. He says that the offensive line didn't do a good job. This is irresponsible of him. The coaches abandoned the run which forced the o-line to play in the defensive (pass rushing) posture the entire game against All-ACC DE Carradine and All-American DE Werner. Run plays provide the o-line an opportunity to inflict aggression and impose their physical will on the opponent's D-line.

The Hurricane OT's and line were doing so well in pass coverage (despite Golden and Fisch's insistence on passing--putting them and are hobbled QB at a physical disadvantage) that FSU burned 5 stars DT Goldman and DE Dante Fowler Jr's redshirts in order to get addition push up front.

Henderson, Feliciano, and Bunche were stoning those boys!!

And Golden's comments don't acknowledge this at all. Its all on the players.

Also, its a fact that a team cannot run the ball if they don't practice it. What you see on game day is what was practiced during the week.

So what did/do we see? Think about how the team plays in games.

8th game of the season and we can't run the ball = we don't practice running the ball much in practice.

If we did, would the defense do so poorly at stopping opposing rushing attacks?

Our passing attack or scheme had been successful in practice because the defense plays 10 yards off the ball in practice.

Golden needs to humble himself and ask everyone to be patient with him and his coaching staff as well. In truth, they're closer to the inexperienced players than they let on.

Question: How did NC State manage to defeat FSU with less talent depth, and experience than the Semenoles?

Montreal-Cane

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Posted by: 86Cane | October 22, 2012 at 09:49 AM

Well deserved. I hope they will do the same with some former fotball coaches and players.

Montreal-Cane

Any news on Duke Johnson who got x-rays/ or an MRI?

pbcfrcane13

NC State one because Jimbo play calling was awful!! Im buddy who flew doen for the game and is a die hard noles fans said that Jimbo by half time just wanted to run the ball and get out of there which in turn let NC state back in the game late.

I disagree we have not been able to run the ball all season other than a couple big runs which skewed the numbers. Other than GT UM run offense has been horrible. YOu ever think that our Oline is undersized to get a good push off off the line against big teams like ND, Kstate, FSU? What they can do it pass block because they have quickness....

The oline was not playing well I watched the game in person and watched it twice on DVR Morris had people on him all game. The only passes we were able to complete all game was to he RB because the push the D line was getting on our Oline was letting the RB sneak out with nobody around him.

calGary Cane

Posted by: Zakkee | October 22, 2012 at 04:08 PM

...Also, its a fact that a team cannot run the ball if they don't practice it. What you see on game day is what was practiced during the week...<-- definition of young team!

Which is also why we cannot make too many adjustments!

pbcfrcane13

btw UM has played 5 game against FBS teams with winning records our stats in rushing...avg are 29 attempts per those game with an avg over those 5 games of 2.88 yds a carry. Maybe this is why we dont run the ball. Because we don't practice? So now were going to claim that we know what the team practices and doesn't. Really?

Montreal-Cane

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pbcfrcane13

I would say that we don't run the ball a lot because of two reasons man one is we have played 3 teams who have top D! Also we have been getting killed in 2 of those games. The other one we played the 4th best rush D in the nation and we tried to attack them with Mike James a nice RB...but not superstar and a freshman who FSU D has the speed to close him off when he runs outside and also got hurt in the 3rd quarter when the game was close.

j.w.

Zakkee, I think you know the game pretty well and usually I agree with you. But it almost seems like you're looking to find fault. We played as poorly on offense as we could have at times, but its not like we were playing Boston College out there. FSU is good, our QB was hurting, our young WR look like freshmen (good one game, lost the next, etc.) and our most explosive RB was at 80% during the first half and hurt at the end. Those are facts. Golden is right that Morris got hit too many times, our pass protection wasn't as good as it has been through the first 7 games, but I think Morris' lack of mobility caused a lot of the problem.
To answer some of your other questions, Goldmen and Fowler came in because of injuries, didn't they? FSU's DL suffered at least two. They have depth to replace them that we don't, unfortunately.

As for:
8th game of the season and we can't run the ball = we don't practice running the ball much in practice.

If we did, would the defense do so poorly at stopping opposing rushing attacks?
How do you know they don't practice running enough? I find it really hard to believe they don't. I agree we needed to run the ball more, but I think the fact we didn't is more a reflection on a philosophy- Almost without exception, when FSU showed 8 in the box Morris either audibled to a pass, or passed without audibling. Then we got behind by two scores and abandoned the run. I'd prefer they ground and pound FSU than do this because FSU didn't seem to have an answer on those toss-sweeps to James. But I don't think that our decision to get away from the run was due to lack of practice.

pbcfrcane13

The coaches should be talked about like the 3 and 2 play call was HORRIBLE!!!!!!

I think everybody knows when over power one side of the line and Duke is in the back field its a pitch to duke to that side.....fake it one time!!!! The development of TEs they can't block or get open. dyron Dye is in at TE its run or hes staying in to block....barely goes out not making it hard for the Defense to figure things out with him in the game.

Coach Dno will lol the one good thing is that he is starting to show more press and blitzes.....not as much as I like but hey.....and Gunther wow welcome to the U buddy lol

The one thing Im starting to like to see is the passion from all the Freshman Bush was playing all out....EJ was getting pissed on the field after giving up a big play....Gunther was dancing around before plays....like see the kids get into this and show passion!

Ohio_Cane

I'll say one elongated reason about this VT game and why Canes better NOT lose...

They have 1 1/2 weeks to prepare for a THURSDAY NIGHT GAME AT HOME against a 4-4 team, who's right on their heels in the ACC race, who almost lost to GT and did lose to PITT and Cincy!!

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