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October 15, 2012

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mike p

Noles are going down!

WWIN

Bush

CGNC

Pretty big grin you got going on there Skool LOL!

canesteeler

My question to canespace is do any of you feel the Canes are a well coached team? Please no bashing just give your opinions. Personally the only difference I see from the Shannon regime is the kids appear to be in better shape. Too often I have witnessed defensive players running around before the snap as if they don't know their assignments. I know this is a process but once again I don't see the growth and development of the players from week to week. Our football iq is still subpar. I I feel the program will continue to be below average until we can start dominating on the offensive and defensive lines. As big as our OL is, I seldom see them driving players off the line of scrimmage and on just about every running play the dl has penetrated into our back field. I have not figuered out what our identity is on offense. Mike James was running the hell out of the ball and all of a sudden he dissappeared for a quarter. Also to often it seems as if our offensive coordinator comes up with plays and formations that come off of NCAA live. I know there is a process but once I would like to walk away from a game without thinking we were beaten by a basketball school.

CGNC

BTW welcome to Memphisnole. You seem cool to blog with.

UMike whatever happened to scum?

86Cane


Pretty big grin you got going on there Skool LOL!

Posted by: CGNC | October 15, 2012 at 07:26 PM

U see that hat? He's a cowboy!

WWIN

Jigga,

You didn't enjoy seeing lockhart getting his first action of the season wit 6 games to go???

CGNC

canesteeler - I am not going to say the coaching is bad. I will say it could be better. I think the D with Stoops of FSU and formerly of UM would look quite a bit better. As for the offense, not sure how much of that is on Fisch - I think 17 has the ability to change the play and has in the past as well as miss open players. And the players need to catch the ball and the QB needs to make the throws. Again, not sure just my $0.02.

CGNC

U see that hat? He's a cowboy!

Posted by: 86Cane | October 15, 2012 at 07:34 PM

Indiana Jones!

CaneRock

Posted by: canesteeler | October 15, 2012 at 07:26 PM

"Too often I have witnessed defensive players running around before the snap as if they don't know their assignments."

Yeah, what's up with that ish, that right there indicates too much thinking.

"As big as our OL is, I seldom see them driving players off the line of scrimmage and on just about every running play the dl has penetrated into our back field."

Especially with 7 in the box, we should've been gashin' UNC. And UNC was playing their safeties DEEEEEP!

"Also to often it seems as if our offensive coordinator comes up with plays and formations that come off of NCAA live."

I don't know if He's getting plays off of video games, but coming out in the Wild Cat was a head scratcher. The facial expression on Stephen's face after that Wild Cat throw, was like, "Alright, enough with this ish...Fish".

CaneRock

What's up with TypePad, I'm signing in successfully, but my name's not showing up in blue.

CaneRock

What's up with TypePad, I'm signing in successfully, but my name's not showing up in blue.

Posted by: CaneRock | October 15, 2012 at 07:49 PM

Never mind, I'm blue again. It worked after I hit refresh...

dj moonbat

Too often I have witnessed defensive players running around before the snap as if they don't know their assignments. I know this is a process but once again I don't see the growth and development of the players from week to week.

Posted by: canesteeler | October 15, 2012 at 07:26 PM


That's the thing that gets to me: yeah, they're young, so some breakdowns on D are to be expected. But as the weeks go by, we should be seeing fewer and fewer plays where they don't look like they know what to do. And I just don't think we are seeing that.

Old Skool

With a beer in hand and a babe under the arm, the grins come naturally.

panamacitycane

Anyone notice that monster to the right in the background on the third picture? Think he can play defense??? Since we are looking for walk ons get him out there!! Hahahah

BEAT FSU

canezilla

AFTER SEEING THE PICS IM READY TO PUT UP THE TENT AND START THE GRILLE!!!

pbcfrcane13

Hell yea Zilla!

WWIN

Defense did improve this past game, at the most important time, the 2nd half, so maybe that'll be some momentum.

I hope everybody understands that if the defense really does improve it'll be gradual. We're not going to go from giving up 600 yds to 300 yds in a weeks time. So we made steps in the right direction.

BigWindyCane1

Player development goes a long way in defining a good coach.
If I see players improving game-to-game and year-to-year, then I will say there is good coaching. Golden has only had 1.5 seasons, and most of the team last year entered the NFL draft too early so we will never know what could have been this year. Still, there is some hope when you look at each position and its development.

On Offense:
QB - Morris is definitely developing and much better than last year. Still can improve a lot.
RB - Mike James is developing and Duke Johnson showed a lot early but stalled after he got injured.

OL - This group is better than last year. Seantrel lost weight and developed after second game. He is clearly the most talented OL and on track for the NFL, but must stay focused and continue to develop. Another year will put him in a good position.
Feliciano is developing and has become the most consistent lineman this year in my view.
Linder is very good, but has stalled

TE - This group is a disappointment. They need to step up and make catches.
WR - Dorsett developed, then regressed
Hurns is good, but stalled recently.
Scott is also developing, but needs to improve his route running, as does the entire group. I like to see WRs give their QB a target and attack the ball. I don't see enough of that among the TEs and WRs. A desire to win (or should I say dominate) their individual matchups is lacking.

On Defense
DTs - Smith is horrible and Pierre is maintaining, but young DTs are improving the last two games. Would like to see a lot more improvement among that younger group


DEs - Chick started out great, but has not become dominant yet. Still Chick is our best DE by far; other DEs are very, very average if not below average. I see no disruption, no penetration, no holding the edge and no dominance on ANY plays.

LBs - Perryman is good, and the young LBs are developing. Johnson and Paul have developed. But the group is very young and not deep. The group shows potential and flashes but needs to grow up.

CB - McGee is miles better than last year and will play in the NFL. I saw the underclassmen CBs take a step forward in the last game, but they are still young, inexperienced and need to get a lot better as a group

Safties - Bush has definitely developed, but needs to get better. As a group, very disappointing. Telemaque is the biggest disappointment.

I would say overall, the jury is still out but it appears that the coaches are doing a good job at developing the players. The next 5 games will tell us a lot about this staff's ability to build this program.

panamacitycane

Oh yeah..I live in tallahassee and drove past fsu practice fields. The have a big hurricane warning flag(two red with black squares) flying off their lift thats over the field for filming... they are getting ready for the canes..I really hope we are too

WWIN

^^^^^^^

This reminds me, we need to wear our gold helmets wit the hurricane warning signs on em

86Cane

Canesteeler...in answer to your question about coaching I'll post what I emailed U:

That is a tough question. I had this discussion with Judson (Old Skool) on the long ride home and we were BOTH torn in two directions (negative and positive) on this. Clearly there is major room for improvement ALL across the board and we are nowhere near where we need to be from a talent, depth AND coaching standpoint but it is still too early to tell IF Golden and company are going to get the job done either sooner or maybe later.

Are we playing like a well coached team right now? Probably not.

Should we be getting better as the year goes on? Probably so.

Are we going to? Only time will tell.

Sooner or later we are going to play a complete game in all three phases. Lets hope it is against FSU and VT the next two weeks.

86Cane

The problem I have is there seems to be no sense of urgency. I mean with FSU and VT coming up on the schedule don't U know that U ABSOLUTELY have to beat UNC last week?

To get to 9-3 which is what I predicted before the season began Miami would have to go undefeated the rest of the way.

Can they? SURE.

Do I think they will? NO.

IF they do well there will be nobody happier in all the world than 86Cane (yes, that was a third person reference).

dj moonbat

To get to 9-3 which is what I predicted before the season began Miami would have to go undefeated the rest of the way.

Posted by: 86Cane | October 15, 2012 at 11:11 PM


You predicted 9-3? Wow -- that's faith, right there.

orange 'n green in the vein

Never have I seen the swinging gate conversion be completed successfully against UM ever until Saturday.

Mutants from Philly defensive coaching, finds another new low to plumb in 2012.

canezilla


^^^^^^^

This reminds me, we need to wear our gold helmets wit the hurricane warning signs on em

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | October 15, 2012 at 10:19 PM
NEVERMIND HELMETS WILLIE.WE JUST NEED TO BLIIIIITZZZ

raizecane

Canezilla - EJ will pick us apart if we blitz because we have no clue how to disguise it.

LB

"Canezilla - EJ will pick us apart if we blitz because we have no clue how to disguise it."

Then Manuel hasn't a clue. The 96th ranked defense in America is waiting for him!

Kidding.

I really hope we don't take a killing. Ryan Williams has absolutely nothing to lose. Let it rip.

canezilla

ITS JUST THE FEW GAMES I WATCHED FSU PLAY WHENEVER EJ HAS A LITTLE PRESSURE HE SCREWS UP BAD!I SAY WE SIT BACK AND WE WILL GET PICKED APART.FUK IT 1 SAFETY WITH A BLITZ ON!!!

Ohio_Cane

Position Update: Freshman DT Jacoby Briscoe, 6'5'' and 315 lbs, is working with the offensive line. That's most likely his new home.

nemo2002

USA Today has Miami ranked at number 65 in the FBS, two spots above Navy and two spots below Temple. OUCH


NCAA football re-rank 1-124: Our list from first to last
http://usat.ly/TrXFXV

Sinistercane

Position Update: Freshman DT Jacoby Briscoe, 6'5'' and 315 lbs, is working with the offensive line. That's most likely his new home.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 16, 2012 at 09:26 AM

Just wow the only DT we have with size and we send him to the oline:/ :(.

pbcfrcane13

Yea I don't get that move. 6 5 315 wow I mean just to move that person youd have to put two guys on him. WTH! I mean I know they know their players better of course, but I dont get this one.

86Cane

Miami’s Stefanie Yderstrom has been named to the Preseason All-ACC Team by the conference coaches and the league’s Blue Ribbon Panel, while the Hurricanes were voted fifth in the Coaches Preseason Poll, as announced Tuesday by the conference office at the ACC Women’s Basketball Media Day.

This season for the first time, the ACC coaches and the Blue Ribbon Panel voted separately on both the Preseason Poll and the Preseason All-ACC Team.

After a junior season in which she earned third-team conference honors, leading the ACC with 68 three-pointers, Yderstrom becomes one of 10 women named to the Preseason Coaches and Blue Ribbon Panel Preseason All-ACC Teams.

The conference coaches voted the Hurricanes fifth in their preseason poll, while the Blue Ribbon Panel – made up of national and local media members – voted Miami has the ACC’s sixth-best team heading into the 2012-13 season.

The Hurricanes open their season on Nov. 5 with a home exhibition against Nova Southeastern. The regular season gets underway on Nov. 9 against UNF.

86Cane

I mean I know they know their players better of course, but I dont get this one.

Posted by: pbcfrcane13 | October 16, 2012 at 10:31 AM

TRUST THE PROCESS.

4-Real

Ain't these the same fools that tried to move Luther Robinson to offense??!!

pbcfrcane13

86 Im trusting I will always trust I mean I backed Randy all the way till about halfway of his final season and threw in the towel.

86Cane

pbcfr...me too. I had this conversation with Old Skool on the way home in the car also:

1. We ALL thought that Randy would get it done at Miami. I mean who else could know more about Miami Hurricane football than Randy Shannon? How could he fail? There was no way! Until year four when there was no doubt anymore and he was gone. That sad chapter in UM football is closed.

2. We ALL hope Golden will get it done at Miami. He seems to have a plan. He seems smart enough to figure this out. He seems to be a good recruiter. Now can he get the right coaches around him? Can he motivate, develop and coach on game day? Time will tell and it is still WAY too early to tell.

We expect to see improvement. We expect to beat teams we "should beat" (like UNC). Losing to #4 KSU and #5 Notre Dame is not the problem. We ALL know we are not a top 10 team YET. But there is no reason we should not be a top 50 team this year and a top 25 team next year and a top 10 team the year after that.

If that doesn't happen Al Golden himself will be the first one to tell you he doesn't deserve to be here. So for now all we can do is hope for better days, trust the process and look for results on THE FIELD. Where Jacoby Briscoe plays at UM is so relatively insignificant that for anyone to get their panties all in a bunch is silly.

U know what matters to me: UNC 18, UM 14

And what matters EVEN MORE is what happens on the scorboard the next two weeks. The final score is OUR problem. The rest of the details is Al Golden's problem.

pbcfrcane13

86 I agree with you, but when you keep saying you have no men at DT I dont know 65 315 sounds like a man to me....but again Im not dumb I get Golden and his staff watch these kids and know whats best for the team.....just a little confusing thats all.

Also I think what people need to get and which seems like you do Golden isn't trying to win today (as in a national championchip)hes ok with taking his licks now let these kids learn and get PT so like you said next year we really dont lose anybody of important.

And by year 4 he will have SR qb starting or a QB who has been in the system for 3 years as in Dewey or Crow or even Olsen with 2 years in the system. Again we will still have all the players who have big roles still here. WR Lewis, Dorsett, Scott

OL other than Linder and Henderson will be back

DL everybody whose playing now will still be here
LB all will still be here

and same with the the safety roles.

So yes trust the process and hopefully he load this class 33 schollies enough to were the loss of scholarships dont hinder us to bad.

pbcfrcane13

The problem will be after year 4,5 when the scholarships will hit us and we will use our depth again....oh the fun of being a die hard fan!

LB

"1. We ALL thought that Randy would get it done at Miami. I mean who else could know more about Miami Hurricane football than Randy Shannon? How could he fail? There was no way! Until year four when there was no doubt anymore and he was gone. That sad chapter in UM football is closed."

Well, severing the lines of communication (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/15/sports/ncaafootball/15sportsbriefs-canes.html?_r=0) and his adversarial relationship with the media were hints (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMGkno6qJzY). Pushing away UM greats also wasn't smart.

"2. We ALL hope Golden will get it done at Miami. He seems to have a plan. He seems smart enough to figure this out. He seems to be a good recruiter. Now can he get the right coaches around him? Can he motivate, develop and coach on game day? Time will tell and it is still WAY too early to tell."

Plan? Check. Recruiting? Check. Coaching? In progress. D'Onofrio is walking the last mile.

"We expect to see improvement. We expect to beat teams we "should beat" (like UNC). Losing to #4 KSU and #5 Notre Dame is not the problem. We ALL know we are not a top 10 team YET. But there is no reason we should not be a top 50 team this year and a top 25 team next year and a top 10 team the year after that."

I did not expect UM to surpass a 10 win ceiling. Nor I do expect them to fall past a 6 win floor. I stand by 8 wins. Our end of season schedule looks good.

We should not have lost to UNC. Period. If that doesn't spark this team to get motivated, nothing will. Satan's team approaches, and we will need all the happiness in the universe to defeat the evil that resides in Tallahassee.

LB

Papa Cane, defending D'Onofrio:

http://caneland.webs.com/apps/blog/show/19370400-putting-coach-d-on-trial

I disagree with him on a great many points here.

"We are only mid-way through year two of this defense. In order to truly judge whether D’Onofrio is a suitable defensive coordinator for the Hurricanes, we would have to have already completed year four with year five already in progress."

Perhaps, but this is a coordinator who arguably hasn't won one big game in his entire career (Ga. Tech in 2011 being the possible exception). He's had his chances. See records vs. UCLA & Penn State at Temple. I do think that improvement over time would probably happen given the talent in South Florida. But the current state of the defense makes us all question 1. His ceiling, 2. Capability to win big games, 3. The length of time to "get it right." If it takes five years to be able to beat UNC and still lose to Notre Dame & Kansas State, then keeping him is not justified. Not with these current statistics, regardless of youth or injury.


"Miami fans need to come to the realization that we are no longer in the 80’s. The years of being a perennial powerhouse are far and away in the rear-view mirror."

There are a few idiots, yes. But primarily Canes fans came to that realization a while ago. Finishing no higher than 2nd in the Coastal does that to a fanbase. Why hire a coach from Temple if not? And I LOVE Al Golden.

"Instead of bashing the program because it isn’t what is used to be, stand up and be proud of being a Miami Hurricane and support the team unconditionally. Championship programs are not built in a year. That’s just a fact. Championship programs are grown. Before Miami’s first national championship Howard Schnellenberger came in with a five year plan. It took him all five years to reach the pinnacle of success. The frustration of being a fan of a fallen giant is completely understandable. It’s just misplaced passion."

No, it isn't. Criticisms help us grow. Only with the dead ticket sales did Randy Shannon cease to be a Hurricane. We criticize because we want this team to grow. Not all of us are reactionary. We see the long-term picture. Golden himself invited criticism from his opening press conference. That has not changed.

"Coach D’Onofrio deserves a fair shake. Coach D is doing the best he can with the hand he was dealt. It’s not like he’s sitting on a royal flush, it’s more like trying to stretch a pair of 7’s as far as he can. Abruptly ending his tenure at Miami would result in an entirely new defensive philosophy which would, in essence, be counterproductive."

He has had more than a fair shake under Al Golden. The Ohio State he defeated has 7 losses. He is 0-2 vs. Kansas State. He is also winless against Penn State (though the numbers steadily improved), and did not win a bowl game. Of course a D'Onofrio defense will eventually win the ACC Coastal. The ACC in itself is a terrible conference. Not to win such would be outright failure. But is that it? The ACC Coastal Champion?

"This team is on the rise. Starting from square one for the second time in two and a half years would be irresponsible at this point."

Square one would be an upgrade from square zero. Yes, this team is rising. But it can do better.

When we win a bowl game, I'll shut up. Until then, tinker away. Again, D'Onofrio is on his farewell tour. I hope a few wins come out of it.

86Cane

There are those that are excessively critical and bordering on delusionally negative about the program and it's current status. They are wrong.

PapaCane is delusionally positive about the program. He is a complete blind homer ala Don Bailey who if the UM team plane crashed but three survived he would talk about what a great victory that was for the UM program.

He lives in a world where ANY negative comments or VALID criticisms about the program are not only wrong but unacceptable and to him UNDISPUTABLE livign proof that U are not a REAL fan.

HOGWASH!

86Cane

Take for example the article I wrote above about the UNC game. The game was thoroughly depressing because it was a game we all drove HOURS to get to, thought we would win and should have won.

You should be in the parking lot AFTER these losses and hear REAL lifetime UM fans who spend all their spare cash and drive hours to go to the game and hear what they say. Most of it I can't even print it here.

The article I wrote is as FAIR and BALANCED as humanly possible without being pure nonsense and utter trash.

To PapaCane it probably reads as pure blasphemy. That's on HIM not ME.

Ohio_Cane

Golden quotes coming...

Terrance Sullivan

86, Thanks for speaking the truth bruh. see ya Saturday at Sun Life.

j.w.

Hmm, I actually think we're exactly where we should be, other than getting annihilated twice. :) More seriously: We beat two teams (BC and Bethune) we should have beated because we're more talented. We lost to three teams (K State, ND, and UNC) that are more talented. Yes, the scores for two of the games are awful,and we didn't perform like we should have. And we defeated two other teams (Ga. Tech, NC State) that have equivalent if not better talent than we have.
In every game we could have played better, but you could say that about the Atlanta Falcons right now as well. And when the people who get paid to analyze and write about the sport tell you "Miami is going to flat out stink," or say a 6-6 season would be a success for Miami, I'd say that what we've seen so far isn't that bad.

Ohio_Cane

Al Golden said he believes #FSU is the most complete team the #Canes will face

Golden: QB Morris "did not practice today & he prob won't practice tom. ..I would have to classify him as gametime.''

Golden: Preston Dewey is backup QB. "Stephen is more mental right now; Ryan is more physical'' reps

Golden on Ryan Williams: "He has pocket presence, good touch & he's long. He's not afraid to stay in the pocket.''

Al Golden said running game this week will be critical

Golden said #FSU is ahead of #UM in the big picture and its time for #Canes to respond

Golden on Duke Johnson (toe): "He's doing good. We need him to play more. Randy Johnson is a tough kid.''

Golden said Duke Johnson looked good in practice today; hasn't shown discomfort with turf toe after being limited last week

j.w.

beaten ^^

Ohio_Cane

Golden said Jimmy Gaines looked good in practice today, might be ahead in race for starting MLB job

Uhhh, what?

Zakkee

Great post 86 and LB.

Being a "real" fan requires balance--just like everything else in life.

Don Bailey is too close to the situation to see things clearly. 86 some may think you are as well, so your last post is beneficial to the impression you sometimes project.

Some may think I'm hypercritical of the team or whatever, but I strongly disagree. I have never picked the Miami Hurricanes to lose a game in my life...ever (on a week to week on blog prediction basis).

People have different breaking points and tolerance levels. I say that if someone takes the time to say they are a UM fan and blogs about Us---than there's a strong chance they are a fan.

Whether they are a "real" fan or not...is subjective or up for opinion.

My lil cousin (31 years old) is a fair-weather Cane fan, but every time I speak with him he has a simple solution for all the team's issues--you know--the ones that boggle our minds and we argue endlessly about as "die-hards".

Sometimes being on the outside looking in gives needed perspective.

D'No needs to be sent home for the week (no contact with the team) to watch the team play from his couch on Saturday. Maybe it'll help.

It pains me when my girlfriend (who doesn't know the intricancies of football) leans over to me every Saturday and says, "Babe, why do we play that defense (prevent) that teams play before the half or end of the game when they are ahead...when we are not ahead and it is the 1st quarter?"

j.w.

Mid-season All-ACC team (Duke is listed as the KO returner):
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/college-football-rapidreports/20563134/acc-midseason-awards-all-conference-teams
Mid-season All-America team:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/20568458

Ohio_Cane

Golden said that Stephen Morris' ankle is "swollen. It's significant."

Ohio_Cane

Jim Morris said he got a text from Al Golden at 530 am asking him how he was feeling. It was intended for QB Stephen Morris

Say what U want, that's my kinda coach.

The Brown Recluse

Culture. It is a culture of losing that has become acceptable at the University of Miami. The decision to divorce Miami from its past, shows me that the problem with the culture begins at the very top with UM's brass. Until UM brass realize that losing is no longer acceptable...nothing will change.
There is no drop off in talent at UM, it's not the facilities, it's the culture. Kids don't want to play for a team that just settles. 6-6 is settling. UM should be thinking 10 win seasons every year. Hell, La Tech was even ranked in the top 25 this year! Change the culture and the wins will come.
Changing the culture means D'Nofrio no longer coaching defense, Wieclaw warming the bench, losing to squads like UNC being totally unacceptable. How long do you think Steve Spurrier would keep D'Nofrio around? How long do you think Saban would allow Wieclaw to keep wetting the bed every time he lined for a field goal? Not very long, but these types of events have become acceptable in Miami.

orange 'n green in the vein

That's funny Zakkee, because my girlfriend says Al Golden is getting paid to make Miami suck (which would describe the situation with the most mutated of the mutants from Philly exactly when they're lined up in that soft serve zone scheme most of the game long). When the opening line swells from 17 1/2 to 21 AT HOME in three days, she might have a point.

LB

"Being a "real" fan requires balance--just like everything else in life."

Yes indeed.

"You should be in the parking lot AFTER these losses and hear REAL lifetime UM fans who spend all their spare cash and drive hours to go to the game and hear what they say. Most of it I can't even print it here.

The article I wrote is as FAIR and BALANCED as humanly possible without being pure nonsense and utter trash."

Viva la Space!

Man, that stadium is empty. Even the great editing of 3 Penny can't cover that up.

CGNC

j.w. - LOL the Atlanta Falcons are undefeated at 6-0 right now

LB

On a more serious note, that hat is epic!

Zakkee

Yea, OGV, then I have to apologize to her because of the initial, displaced look of disgust and dismissal that I give her after she points out the truth.

It is something no fan wants to believe, but after years of watching our team lay it all on the line every Saturday and then to watch this brand of football the last 8 seasons, it is difficult to digest the losing and the thought has crossed my mind that this is no coincidence or happenstance.

Our past teams (80's) crossed the line of complacency, conformity, political correctness and "appearances are everything" (corporate America). They refused to "stay in their place". I don't think many Hurricane fans are aware of the true fuel or theme behind the success of those past teams, because many uphold and believe in many of the ways of institutional oppression of expression and creativity.

Golden's (and Shannon's) plan and results mirror this ideology of complacency, process, and lack of creativity. Look at the coaching styles--no creativity at all. Quantity over quality. Assembly line Hurricanes and the product sucks.

The Brown Recluse is correct and I've been saying the same.

The president's of all SEC schools are die-hard football fans who will do anything to make the culture success driven. Its not even about money--its about intention and sincerity.

The support and acceptance isn't there.

j.w.

CG- I know, that was my point. :) They should have destroyed Oakland last week, didn't win by much against Carolina or Washington, etc.

mark

First, let me say, that DeNO does not have all the tools he needs on defense. Does his schemes suck, YES! We are terrible at blitzing and send a Western Union message to the opposing team when we are going to blitz. We also only blitz from the outside. Playing your corners 10 yds off the ball outside the 20's with no pass rush is freaking suicide. Moving Briscoe to offensive tackle makes me want to cry. We have 5 DT's over 6'2 on the team, Pierre, Robinson, Smith, Grimble & Brisco. Porter, Ivery, Moore & King are 6'1. Briscoe is exactly the kind of size we need at Tackle. We have one verballed at 6'2. DeNo's defense got better at Temple simply because they didn't play the competetion Miami plays. We are not a complete defense and won't be until we get some talent up front, and that's whether DENO is here or not.
Fla. ST should have an absolute field day against us and their offensive line is not all world.
6-6 is the best we can hope for and I mean we all need to get down and pray that we get to 6 wins. Williams is an adequate QB but moves like a sack of potatoes. We have no go to WR and forget the TE's, they might as well not play them. They catch as well as our WR. Last week we reverted back to the play not to lose syndrome and it cost us. If the other team is going to play the 2 deep safties, the RBs in the flat and middle of the field should be open. We wanted to prove that we could run the ball and did it way to much on first and second down. Now for all you guys that say stars don't matter, well they do and we don't have enough of them. FSU 45 the GolDenos 17. I wish I could be more optimistic but I have to call it as I see it.

86Cane

1. 6-6 is the best we can hope for and I mean we all need to get down and pray that we get to 6 wins.

2. FSU 45 the GolDenos 17.

3. I wish I could be more optimistic but I have to call it as I see it.

Posted by: mark | October 16, 2012 at 02:48 PM

1. Praying hard right now as U wish.

2. We will hold U to that score.

3. It is EASY to be optimistic BEFORE the game simply by coming by our tailgate and getting into "Game Day Mode"!

raizecane

Papa Cane, defending D'Onofrio:

http://caneland.webs.com/apps/blog/show/19370400-putting-coach-d-on-trial

I disagree with him on a great many points here.

"We are only mid-way through year two of this defense. In order to truly judge whether D’Onofrio is a suitable defensive coordinator for the Hurricanes, we would have to have already completed year four with year five already in progress
*****************************************

I think papa is on something. How long did it take Saban to get Bama where it needed to be? Oh wait, they won the NC in year three......nevermind.

raizecane

Is the debate at UM tonight??

WWIN

86,

So what's papa's status on here since he has his own canespace now?? I didn't know know if he was just coming around at first just to get ideas to run his own

Also, even he was criticizing d'no but know he believes in him¿¿ Its cool if he believes in him now but you can't come out talking like you always did believe in him

j.w.

Phil Steele's All- ACC team (Linder, Duke Johnson get 1st team at OG and KR)
http://philsteele.com/All_Conference/2012/2012Midseason/ACC.html

herbieibis

Type pad ain't working.

86 would love to get into game day mode but UH I'm like 14 hours away. I'm on an island up here in N.C. with no support. I got to do my pattented Rick Flair strut one time this past weekend at a bar full of UNC hillbillies. One of these dam days the dominos will finally fall back into place for us and it will back to business as usual but right now, i'm just like the rest of yous, waiting & hoping, for this nightmare to end.

CGNC

j.w. LOL whether they won by a little or alot, still undefeated as of right now which is more than the Canes can say. The NY Giants look FOR REAL again

orange 'n green in the vein

If your coordinator who's been working with his buddy from college for seven years now takes four years and change to be judged on the merits at your new job, you need better friends from college.

Jedd Fisch has a great football playing pedigree before getting into coaching doesn't he? Why doesn't Al get some of Jedd's college teammates who played defense to coach that side of the LOS?

Oh. That's right.

j.w.

Agree, CG- a win's a win, a loss is a loss. Some are a lot more painful or thrilling than the others, but they count the same. Giants looked great yesterday. Never thought SF would look so bad.

Felipe

Take for example the article I wrote above about the UNC game. The game was thoroughly depressing because it was a game we all drove HOURS to get to, thought we would win and should have won.

You should be in the parking lot AFTER these losses and hear REAL lifetime UM fans who spend all their spare cash and drive hours to go to the game and hear what they say. Most of it I can't even print it here.

The article I wrote is as FAIR and BALANCED as humanly possible without being pure nonsense and utter trash.

To PapaCane it probably reads as pure blasphemy. That's on HIM not ME.

Posted by: 86Cane | October 16, 2012 at 12:32 PM

+10000000000 Love this comment.

Jack

7-5 is totally realistic! Beat 1. Duke 2. USF 3. UVA that must be done!!

Felipe

Golden said Jimmy Gaines looked good in practice today, might be ahead in race for starting MLB job

Uhhh, what?

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Said it every time he was on the field last year, and I'll say it again: I have no idea why this guy looks good to them.

I guess it's a relative thing; even still, Cornelius showed a bit more upside in that GaTech game imo. (Still has his own problems) And Paul, even if he still gets lost like a freshman sporadically and doesn't wrap up at times. I saw every Carolina Panthers LB (including Beason) do that 2 weeks ago so that's forgivable. If it gets fixed.

Felipe

God, some of PC's comments are really infuriating.


"Miami fans need to come to the realization that we are no longer in the 80’s. The years of being a perennial powerhouse are far and away in the rear-view mirror."

NO WAY. WE DID NOT. KNOW. THAT.

What we want to see is progress at the individual level, and guys getting confused / lost 24/7 just ain't it. Though 2nd half of last week gave glimmers of hope.

WWIN

What I don't get¿¿¿

People want Butch Davis back but they mad cuz we lost to his players¿¿ If unc's players are less talented than ours then why do we need him back??. Don't get me wrong, I love Butch and would take him back in a heartbeat. The point I'm trying to make is unc is a good team that had a bad start, since the 2nd half of the Louisville game they have been rolling. Should we had beat them? Yes IMO, but its not like we lost to a sorry team.

WWIN

That's funny Zakkee, because my girlfriend says Al Golden is getting paid to make Miami suck (which would describe the situation with the most mutated of the mutants from Philly exactly when they're lined up in that soft serve zone scheme most of the game long). When the opening line swells from 17 1/2 to 21 AT HOME in three days, she might have a point.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | October 16, 2012 at 01:19 PM

Sounds like you two make the perfect couple. Have you proposed yet? If not, what are you waiting on :-)

VA Cane

I really love UM, but I do realize times have changed, our situation has changed, the game has changed...and kids have changed. We are getting some good kids, and I think we will continue to do so.

Honestly, I want to win....I hate losing....but to me, what my kids are doing right now 6-0, playing at a far superior level each game so far... is my passion. I can control what happens by my coaching, and I hope I am doing it right. I am helping a HS teams DBs, and we are #1 in central VA. I got so good ones, and we have had some people from Ohio State, FL a feeler from Bama and ND....and these kids know who the big boys are....I am having a great season at both places...we are winning. I see things at UM that disturb me....but that does not mean I am right..but I do know this much and preach it to my kids so that it sinks in....If you cannot, do not or will not execute fundemental blocking, tackling, special teams, if you turn the ball over, and you commit stupid penalties over and over....at any level.....you certainly increase your chance of losing quite a bit. My guys execute to a fault....and we win. I hope we can get there as a team...but it takes work and dedication from players and coaches. We really need a big win against FSU.

jiggafras

Kinda pointless talking to the blind homers so i cut down my post. We are all homers btw. But i judge people by what they put on the field. Some people fall in love with people's personalities and can't bring themselves to look at the opposite view of things. I have no idea how Golden is gonna do, he talks good tho. No'D on the other hand, you have to wonder, if our defense is so bad, how much better can we get really. We have the worst defense in the NCAA, i don't think you will find another team in the country who is bad at every stat you can name on defense. We are about to break every bad record on defense. Don't tell me about wait. When we got trampled by GT and FSU in 08, we blamed it on how young we were, in 2010, it was a worst result V FSU. Every defense is gonna have a bad days, and if you are particularly young you will have more of them. But to be bad in every game, not able to stop FCS teams, it don't take 4 years for me to realize that shouldn't happen. Like i said the team will improve naturally over the next 2 years but i see a 9-3 ceiling, just like we were in 09. Managing to lose games we have no business losing. I don't see anything from our defense that we can say we can build a championship defense on that.

What i hate most is the double speak. Preseason Golden and No'D said they wont use youth as a excuse. Its night and day since then. It sounds too much like Randy. Urban Meyer called out his defense publicly for giving up 484 yards to Indiana.... 484 yards would probably be the second lowest total we give up all season. We cant get no fight or fire from the coaches. They talk about killing people's confidence and all this stuff. Am like dude you get paid to do this stuff. If i mess some shit at work they fire or suspend me, why should i worry about men getting paid millions to coach 12 games a year and cant hold themselves and everyone publicly accountable? I don't buy this shit about the U is dead, The only way that will; happen is if we move out of Miami. Coaching and administrative deficiencies does not mean the U is dead. We will never be dead. There is alot of talent on the team, more than maybe 65 percent of the top 25 teams in the country. Give someone like Mike Leach this team, we slaughter the ACC, Saban would trample the ACC, and there are other coaches who would do the same thing. Butch would take this bunch and win the ACC. Stop spreading shit about this not being the 80s and all that dumb stuff because we already know that. This is not the SEC, the ACC is putrid and for us to be middle of the road in it, has nothing to do with talent but crappy ass structure of accountability at the University that has permeated the fan base. The day we start accepting the debacle on defense is the day we will have a huge problem. At some point there is a bottom line drawn. I drew mine weeks ago, no fucking way we should be giving up 500 yards a game, no fucking way, no matter how many young players we are playing.

Jack

Jiggafas -you make some good points. However, I will judge this team and coaching staff next year!

86Cane

UM baseball schedule released:

http://www.hurricanesports.com/SportSelect.dbml?&&DB_OEM_ID=28700&SPID=103774&SPSID=658421

86Cane

WAIT...this is NOT the 80s? Are U sure???

Oh shyte. I got some stuff I gotta do.

Be back later.

JRamos

Amen brother!!!that is the truest statement I have heard here so far!! I haven't shared my opinions on this site for long,but i have been a cane fan since I can remember, and I do think,football more then any other sport depends on great coaching. Can Golden be a great coach,maybe,maybe not but this cane team has enough talent to win a couple big games.If his bff can't get it done,well to bad.Like Jiggafras said. Saban and Butch would have dominated the ACC with the talent on this team right now! The defense is suppose to get better each game. For me, it has gotten worst.Yeah they held NC to 18 pts.but when is not the D, is the offense and so on and so on.Inconsistency my friends will not get this team far. To many penalties also.Slowly this coaching staff is reminding me of Shannon in many ways then one,I hope I'm wrong, I really do.........Go U!!!!

Tonycane

Disagreed....Shannon's staff failed to develop players. For many of the 2008 class, their freshman year was their best. Multiple times we were told that nfl scouts said that Miami did the worst of any school in developing talent. The only exception was Leonard hanker son, who took it upon himself to seek out mark duper.

Just compare jacory of last year to 2010 and 2009. Huge improvement.

I'm not saying golden is saban, but there is definite progress.

Tonycane

Why hasn't anyone called for ray Lewis to join the staff if he retires? Imagine the motivational speeches that he could give to players and recruits!

BigWindyCane1

I think it is too early to judge Golden harshly, so I would wait until the end of year 3 to see how the team is progressing.

Most coaches that have won their first national championships with their team since 2000 or so seem to win them between year 2-4. Their teams tend to improve substantially after lackluster first and second years. Here is the listL

2000 - Oklahoma
Bob Stoops (after 7-5 record first year, won national championship in second year as HC)

2001
Miami, Fla. 12-0
Larry Coker (first year as HC, following Butch)

2002 - Ohio State -
Jim Tressel (after 7-5 record, won NC in Second year as HC, should have been Coker, though)


2003
LSU (National Champs) Nick Saban - Second year at LSU
USC (#1 in AP Poll)

13-1
12-1
Nick Saban (after 8-5 record, wins national champtionship in fouth year at LSU)
Pete Carroll (after 12-1 record previous year, Carroll wins NC in 4th year at USC)

#-2004

USC Carroll (already won first NC in Fourth year)

#-2005

Texas -
13-0 - Mack Brown (EXCECPTION, after 11-1 record, won Brown in his first NC as HC in his 8th year)

2006 - Florida
13-1 - BCS Championship Game:
Urban Meyer (after 9-3 record, Meyer won his first NC in second year as HC)

2007 - LSU - 12-2 -
Les Miles (after 11-2 record, Les Miles won his first NC in his third year as head coach)

2008 - Florida
13-1 -
BCS Championship Game:
Urban Meyer (Meyer already won first national championship in second year)

2009 - Alabama
14-0
BCS Championship Game:
Nick Saban (After 12-2 record, Saban won NC in his third year at Alabama)

2010 - Auburn
14-0 - BCS Championship Game:
Gene Chizik (after 8-5 record, Chizik wins first NC in second year)


2011 - Alabam
12-1
BCS Championship Game:
Nick Saban (second NC as head coach)

That means that if we are going to see improvement, we should see vast improvement by next year.

86Cane

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