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November 11, 2012

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billb

Football isn't the only sport that SUCKS at Miami. The basketball team just got drubbed by FGCU. It wasn't even close.

I'm sorry, but SOMEONE at this university has to do SOMETHING about the quality of these men's sports teams soon, or they will lose whatever fans they have left. These programs are pathetic and disgustingly bad. (Baseball sucks also.) Either put an effort into improving them (including oversight for NCAA violations) or drop all of them.

The state of Miami sports in general is just abysmal. Who the hell is minding the store in Coral Gables?

orange 'n green in the vein

Spike Dykes to UT way before fear the lie.

Panamacitycane

gruden I highly doubt will coach again anytime soon, jimbo will not leave FSU for tennessee, maybe auburn. golden??? well possibly, atleast that school gives a crap about their football, they have sucked for awhile but still have almost sold out crowds for every home game

USAFCane

wow so much doom and gloom on here today. I get why, we still seem to be hovering over the abyss, win one more, miss a bowl game and see what the NCAA has to say (18 months now!)then maybe we finally will have hit the bottom. It hurts to be so irrelevent.

WWIN

Why did i just hear on the radio down here that the top 3 choices to replace Derek Dooley are 1. Gruden 2. Jimbo 3. Al Golden

I guess everybody but Canes fans love him

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | November 12, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Something has got to give. We suck. I know its not all his fault but his crappy defense cost us the Virginia game. We can debate all day that the ffense should have put it away but at the end of the day they scored 38. At Miami, that wins you ball games. Its like a challenge for D'Onofrio to see how many points he can give up.

herbieibis

I meant Highsmith, sorry!

orange 'n green in the vein

Hey now The Dude, for all we know the magic defensive fairy visited the D'No household last night, waived her magic wand over the mutant from Philly's White Russian left out on his nightstand and when he woke up and downed it this morning it turned him into the second coming of Wanny's mustache so there's no need to get hasty.

Besides, he's only been here two years, you can't judge a guy with his record at Temple plus all the draft pick(s?) that were turned out there just yet, according to some guy on a website, and guys on websites are always right about everything as we know.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Is Mark D'Onofrio still employed this morning? Sigh. Fire his @ss.

86Cane

jw...email me.

CaneRock

and Davenport.

Posted by: herbieibis | November 12, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Herb, who the hell is "Davenport"?
The only Davenport that I've known that played for Miami is Najeh.

herbieibis

Here's a new one from Rivlas.com, Bryant said he would flip to FSU if they offer Brisley Estime. Great, just f-ing great!Sound familiar, Brown last year, trying to get his brother a schollie, with a package deal.

CaneRock

Miamicane...RUMORS are that they were selling their complimentary tickets which is a no-no but a very minor offense that occurs ALL the time at EVERY school. IF the rumor is true then they will have to pay back any $$$ and be reinstated.

Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2012 at 08:49 AM

They actually SOLD THEM?!!! WHAT!!!
We need to put those two in charge of marketing.

j.w.

The rumors re: Scott that you are posting a re a heck of a lot better than what I read, hoping you guys are right on this one.

nemo2002

I regret to say (again) that Al Golden is going to leave Miami - sooner than later. WHY WOULDN'T HE? Only one reason - lack of a better paying job offer (from a school that really places a priority on WINNING).

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE $$$

86Cane

BRIAN THE BEAST LONDON FROM CANESINSIDER:

On defense, as I said above, I’m not worried. I don’t want to fire the coach. I don’t want to suddenly change schemes. What I want is for the offseason to get here already and for guys to bulk up, get faster, and grow up. Give me Denzel and Chick as juniors, Deon, Tracy, Earl, Tyriq as sophomores and you start to see a pretty decent defense. If Coach D couldn’t coach or develop players, how do you explain his stats his last few years at Temple or the draft picks he put in to the league? At some point the players have to play. Have there been some personality conflicts? Yes. Might Coach D, and even Coach Golden figure out a different communication approach when it comes to South Florida athletes? No doubt about it. But this staff can coach. Oh, and I think the argument about Coach D is a wasteful one.

HE’S NOT GOING ANYWHERE! EVEN IF YOU START A BONFIRE ON THE GREENTREE AND PICKET IN FRONT OF THE HECHT, HE’S NOT GOING ANY WHERE, UNLESS HE CHOOSES TO.

Terrance Sullivan

I will be there at Sun Life Saturday for the USF game. 20,000 fans tops.

pbcfrcane13

Man those two went off...if you have time I would go back and read the thread between those two....I know neither are inside the program, but I would say they probably know more than most if not all of us when it comes to UM.

Its very sad to read the tweets they had with each other. One good thing is they both love Golden and think hes going to be good they are done witht he higher ups at UM!

pbcfrcane13

Alonzo Highsmith‏@alonzohighsmith

@DanSileoShow I see colleges everyday! Miami heading on collision course with Rice & Tulane and has nothing to do with coaches , players!

86Cane

Old Skool...IMHO here it goes:

CB Brandon McGee 3rd round

RB Mike James 5th round

P Dalton Botts 7th round.

pbcfrcane13

Alonzo Highsmith‏@alonzohighsmith

@DanSileoShow I have sat and talked to every top coach in America ! They ask same question? Why won't they help football program down there?

pbcfrcane13

Btw not sure whats really going....but reading Alonzo Highsmith and Dan tweets to each other holy crap. They are so pissed at this Admin!

Brevardcane

I would say he has two more years or until the worst of the NCAA mess is behind the program

herbieibis

Sports fans, relax! We'll be okay. You have to crawl before you can walk and we're definetly crawling. Whether or not Johnson, Bush & Perryman would of made a difference is irrelavent. We still coughed up half a hundred when they were on the field. On the job training can be painful, especially when you have so many trying to learn. Al hasn't even been on the job 2 years yet and wasn't left with the keys to a Bentley but a dam VW Van. You have to have some talent to win consistently and good coaching, now that's where the debate starts. Is DeNO the answer to our defensive problems? It appears everyone on here thinks so but if you look closer and think about it for a minute, who does he really have to work with on that side of the ball, except pups that really aren't ready to play every down, some players that are questionable for even being on this roster and a few washed up has beens, like Luther, Rogers Armbrister, Telemaque and Davenport. Did DeNO recruit these guys? No! Could his schemes be better, Hell yes!
Okay, lets say we end up canning DENO, then what? We bring in another guy, which in turns means, learning another system and yeah maybe the results will be somewhat better, but lets face it we need more talent on that side of the ball, PERIOD. I don't care who's calling the shots. It all starts up front, we have to many Hobbits and third string talent up front, that's having to start and play. No rush means a QB has all day to throw, this has been a problem all year long! Add to the fact that aside from McGee & a washed up Telemaque are your only 2 guys back there that have played a lot, this is nothing but a rescipe for dissater. Okay we want more blitzs, we blitz and still get torched because we suck at blitzing.
I could go on and on but the bottom line is this conference sux, with mediocracy and we fall right along with them. There is a reason FSU ruled this conference for 10 to 12 years, prior to the last 6. losing to Virginia, Maryland, UNC, BC and some of the rest of these schools is unacceptable, I don't care who is coaching. These schools are rarely in the top 30 in recruiting, which means they are not supposed to have top flight talent or depth of talent and they still beat are azz. I'm by no means a DENO fan either right now but the man needs some players (TalenT) to work with and then I'll pass judgement

pbcfrcane13

Ill be shocked if we have 20K....SMH.....

raizecane

+ 2 bacause me and a buddy will be there.

Old Skool

Looking at the senior list, who gets drafted highest? Botts?

86Cane

So how many fans will be at the USF game?

pbcfrcane13

Dan Sileo finally not killing the kids and coaches today killing the Admin really Donna

86Cane

It appears to me that Golden's underlying issue is the he suffers from a somewhat closed belief system. He believes that most other people think and feel the way he does. That they share his undying passion and insane level of commitment. Until he finds 85 players that share his values and views he will not be successful.

I guess he has two more years to get that done, huh?

To be honest I don't think that he had any idea what he was getting into at Miami even after his Temple experience. He was conviced he had the formula and in fact I believe that it still has a good chance to work here IF he makes the right moves on his coaching staff and wins out this season to finish at 7-5 and on a positive note.

Then he MUST win some more games next year (9-10) and the recruiting wars over the next two years. If he gets 85 strong then he has a chance to win BIG at UM.

If not...well U already know.

pbcfrcane13

I know nobody cares to hear it at this point listen to Golden on Joe Roses show....man he just sounds so fed up and just so worn out....I hope for him the players and our sake he gets this thing turned around!

mi@mic@ne

Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2012 at 09:12 AM\


Lol...im a Cane at heart.. aint given up no one...lol

86Cane

Saturday is Miami’s 2012 home finale and will also be Senior Day for its 17 seniors playing in their final home game. Miami’s 2012 senior class includes: P Dalton Botts, LB Ramon Buchanan, P Cameron Dean, DL Chris Dunckel, RB Mike James, WR Davon Johnson, OL Ben Jones, LS Paul Kelly, OL Jeremy Lewis, OL Eduardo Lopez, DB Brandon McGee, WR Shawn O’Dare, DL Darius Smith, DB Andrew Swasey, S Vaughn Telemaque, WR Kendal Thompkins and PK Jake Wieclaw.

BigWindyCane1

Although I can no longer defend these defensive coaches, I don't think Golden will make any changes. I think he will keep them and his fate will rise and fall with them next year.

On the bright side, we have the leading candidate for ACC rookie of the year, and the most exiting player in college football - Duke Johnson. Duke is running like he did when he was in high school or in optimist league. By his own words, he does "everything I can" to contribute to a win.

Its been years since I have seen a Canes RB as good as Duke. I am just going to enjoy the ride. The Canes may have lost a few recruits the last few years, but I think Golden scored big last year with Duke's class and we have only seen glimpses so far.

The players need to put that bowl-ban, media conversation behind them and focus on winning out. Play these last two games like they are bowl games, become bowl eligible, finish the season strong, then let everything else take care of itself.

86Cane

DEFENSE DEPTH CHART:

DE 71 ANTHONY CHICKILLO 6-4, 262, So.
92 Jalen Grimble 6-2, 295, So.
99 Jelani Hamilton 6-5, 271, Fr.
DT 96 CURTIS PORTER 6-1, 305, RJr.
72 Earl Moore 6-1, 300, Fr.
66 Dequan Ivery 6-1, 303, Fr.
DT 91 OLSEN PIERRE 6-4, 300, So.
93 Luther Robinson 6-3, 288, RJr.
DE 51 SHAYON GREEN 6-3, 260, RJr.
17 Tyriq McCord 6-3, 236, Fr.
90 Ricardo Williams 6-5, 240, RFr.
OLB 34 THURSTON ARMBRISTER 6-3, 222, So.
59 Jimmy Gaines 6-3, 230, Jr.
MLB 59 JIMMY GAINES 6-3, 230, Jr.
56 Raphael Kirby 6-0, 218, Fr.
OLB 36 GIONNI PAUL –OR– 6-1, 230, So.
52 DENZEL PERRYMAN 6-0, 229, So.
31 Tyrone Cornileus 6-2, 210, Jr.
CB 37 LADARIUS GUNTER 6-2, 198, Jr.
3 Tracy Howard 5-11, 185, Fr.
20 Thomas Finnie 5-10, 183, So.
S 22 KACY RODGERS II 6-2, 210, Jr.
29 Rayshawn Jenkins 6-1, 203, Fr.
S 30 AJ HIGHSMITH 6-0, 202, RJr.
7 Vaughn Telemaque 6-2, 204, RSr.
CB 21 BRANDON McGEE 6-0, 194, Sr.
39 Antonio Crawford 5-11, 188, Fr.

86Cane

This system is like being water boarded

Posted by: mi@mic@ne | November 12, 2012 at 08:59 AM

Sooner or later even the toughest ones (like me and U) will break.

I'm jus sayin...

86Cane

OFFENSE DEPTH CHART:

WR 1 ALLEN HURNS 6-3, 192, Jr.
86 Herb Waters 6-2, 185, Fr.
LT 79 MALCOLM BUNCHE 6-7, 325, RSo.
64 Hunter Wells 6-4, 300, RFr.
LG 70 JONATHAN FELICIANO 6-5, 314, RSo.
68 Jeremy Lewis 6-4, 316, RSr.
C 62 SHANE MCDERMOTT 6-4, 295, RSo.
75 Jared Wheeler 6-5, 314, RJr.
RG 65 BRANDON LINDER 6-6, 308, Jr.
63 Daniel Isidora 6-4, 320, Fr.
RT 77 SEANTREL HENDERSON 6-8, 340, Jr.
74 Ereck Flowers 6-6, 314, Fr.
TE 46 CLIVE WALFORD 6-4, 250, RSo.
82 Asante Cleveland 6-5, 263, Jr.
49 Dyron Dye 6-5, 255, RJr.
FB 33 MAURICE HAGENS 5-11, 240, Jr.
43 Sean Harvey 6-4, 262, RSo.
QB 17 STEPHEN MORRIS 6-2, 214, Jr.
11 Ryan Williams 6-5, 221, RSo.
RB 5 MIKE JAMES 5-11, 220, Sr.
8 Duke Johnson 5-9, 188, Fr.
25 Dallas Crawford 5-10, 192, RFr.
WR 4 PHILLIP DORSETT 5-10, 185, So.
83 Kendal Thompkins 5-10, 182, RSr.
WR 24 DAVON JOHNSON 6-0, 188, Sr.
87 Garrett Kidd 6-2, 186, RFr.

mi@mic@ne

how i long for the old days ..this system is like being water boarded

raizecane


Miamicane...RUMORS are that they were selling their complimentary tickets which is a no-no but a very minor offense that occurs ALL the time at EVERY school. IF the rumor is true then they will have to pay back any $$$ and be reinstated.

Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2012 at 08:49 AM

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Shouldn't take long to pay be the $7.00 per ticket....LOL

mi@mic@ne

I hate the NCAA ...like nazi germany

raizecane

Here is one of my "jaw dropping" moments from the game.....

We actually ran a a read option play that would have worked if it wasn't for a holding call on #77 and a fumble by #17.

86Cane

Miamicane...RUMORS are that they were selling their complimentary tickets which is a no-no but a very minor offense that occurs ALL the time at EVERY school. IF the rumor is true then they will have to pay back any $$$ and be reinstated.

86Cane

Of course, you don't need me to tell you who was the best team in college football in '91 and how different their defense looked from this one 86, do you?

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | November 11, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Yeah even I know the answer to that one.

mi@mic@ne

I was reading that they need to be reinstated by the NCAA before they can return to the field.

mi@mic@ne

The rumor is that Johnson and Scott were participating in behavior that violated the NCAA rules. Did they talk to an agent? Which causes me to think that the splintering has already started.

86Cane

Heading into the final home game of the season, head coach Al Golden released the Miami Hurricanes' depth chart for USF week.

After making his first start of the season Saturday at Virginia, redshirt junior Curtis Porter is listed as one of the No. 1 defensive tackles along with Olsen Pierre. Sophomore Thurston Armbrister is No. 1 at one of the two outside linebacker positions, while both sophomores Gionni Paul and Denzel Perryman are listed as co-starters at the other OLB.

On offense, junior Allen Hurns, sophomore Phillip Dorsett and senior Davon Johnson are listed as the top wide receivers. Redshirt freshman Garrett Kidd is listed as Johnon's backup.

Saturday's game at Sun Life Stadium will kick at 3 p.m. ET on RSN (Sun Sports in South Florida). Miami's seniors will be honored prior to the game.

panamacitycane

Eddie johnson not on the depth chart.... not sure what he did but obviously it is not good... too early in the college career to be having off the field issues. Perryman has to step up and be this defenseive leader. I feel like this year there isnt really a leader like a sean spence. Could be part of the problems also?

laquinton

Hassan do you mind going to chris freet again and telling him to scratch of d'no, jethro and Williams please. Thanks in advance

Hassan

Gunter is a RS Soph. Spent 2 years in JC but played one year as he RS his first year. I actually am the person that had chris freet fix this on the roster.

WWIN

Added Miami redshirt sophomore Ladarius Gunter: “The first half, we didn’t do well [on third downs].

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/11/3091772/miami-hurricanes-third-down-woes.html#storylink=cpy

Another piece to the mystery of Gunter's classification

Felipe

Yeah. Im over d'no also. if al wants to be at the university of miami he needs to.figure that his bff,best man at his wedding doesnt need to be a coach here. look at the scheme... tracy howard arguing with him... playing every player ? for what...

Posted by: laquinton | November 11, 2012 at 06:18 PM

Right on.

WWIN

I just wanted to say you were 100% right on our defense. Or as some have said "offenses waterbreak." I am hoping you are 100% wrong on Al Golden believing in this garbage. He has to move on from his bff.

Posted by: The Dude | November 11, 2012 at 07:02 PM

"offenses waterbreak" I invented that saying and I also said we shoulda fired d'no at the end of last season but I would be lying if I said the D hasn't improved. Just keepin it real, the D was improving since the unc game and the offense has sucked.

WWIN

Texas,

I said take the best 3 players off of ANY teams defense and what would you have?? So you mean to tell me that Eddie Johnson = Armbrister, Bush = Rogers??? HOF has nothing to do with it, they were the best 3 on the ravens team just like Bush, Perryman, and Johnson are the best 3 on our team.

The last four games when they played the defense improved every game so to say it doesn't matter if they played or not would be false

WWIN

Willie, I appreciate your perspective, but if that's the case, does that mean U Tough was a failure? I really do hope your point is correct, that the team is a lot closer to where we want to be than I think, and that was ailing us is something that can be fixed quickly.

Posted by: j.w. | November 11, 2012 at 04:07 PM

U Tuff is going to be the backbone of this program but it takes about 3yrs to fully kick in and we're only in year 1. Example, take Raphael Kirby look how much he improved his weight room numbers in year 1 now think what he'll look like his junior year.

texican cane

But Willie...its a lot harder to replace 2 (maybe 3 ) HOF'ers than a couple of freshman who when they were playing the defense wasn't very good. There isn't the drop off from freshman to 2nd teamer than there is from first ballot HOF to their backups.
this defense isn't good. No matter who is on the field

orange 'n green in the vein

86, when you ask me what's going on in the coaches head while they get nuked on D nine times out of ten this year, the post is illustrating that Al is doing the only thing he knows how, soft zone, make the QB picks the holes, DT's clogging lanes instead of getting up field (which Porter was causing problems for UVA yesterday doing by the way), match up a zone linebacker on a WR running a crossing route, basically all the things that make you turn off the TV for the last drive because you know the end result thanks to the same old problems that are never solved are the problems week in and out because that's what Golden did his entire career before he got his MAC job because that's what he learned with his roomie from Paterno/Sandusky in college.

Look, let's go to the the quotes from the relevant parties, the mutant from Philly himself speaks about the 'special' learning he received from the life in jail 'innocent' man;

http://www.collegian.psu.edu:8080/archive/1999/11/11-13-99cm/11-13-99cm-3.asp

What the life in jail 'innocent' man thought the mutant needed to get better at back in his playing days;

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2519&dat=19890926&id=wKtdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cl0NAAAAIBAJ&pg=2581,8099397

Now the video, this is a Lou Holtz option team with Rick Meier at QB, but let's see;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VksZXyGYGc

CB's bailing out from soft zone pre-snap so there's five to 10 yards of cusion? Check.

DT's square dancing with the middle OL instead of shooting a gap to cause disruption? Check.

Sure TD reception open at the goal line that a better passing team should have converted but instead shot themselves in the foot for a defensive 'stop?' Check.

Option team TE running open over the middle against the zone for a big gain? Check.

WR matched up with a LB dropping into zone responsibility for him as he catches it wide open for a big gain? Check.

Pre-Mutant-from-Philly D'No thinking this is the high point of his football playing career and wanting to recreate this moment again and again and again like Sandusky in a shower with an underage, underprivileged kid? YOU BET YOUR SWEET BIPPY THAT'S A CHECK!

Now this looks familiar, where have I seen all this before on the defense, minus the boring high school offense with a future NFL QB running the triple pitch? That's right! Al Golden coached football teams!

Of course, you don't need me to tell you who was the best team in college football in '91 and how different their defense looked from this one 86, do you?

Montreal-Cane

Boy did we miss Deon Bush yesterday...Just look at the tapes and you will be very sad for # 30...Good kid but really not his position...Sorry Zo.

Terrance Sullivan

Great point Montreal.

Montreal-Cane

Al Golden looked in shock...devastated after the game yesterday...A lot going on behind the scene and the NCAA coming soon...Can we get over it and see brighter days ahead...If Al stays he will need to go after the best D coach and Donna will need to show some $$$ to get this program back to the top.

Terrance Sullivan

Exactly Miamicane.

Al

Barrow can't freaking coach. Who says he is good. He sucks at coaching. Our Linebackers suck.

j.w.

The things you learn in teitter: UM apparently has a polo team, and they are good. I assume they meant water polo at the club level, we haven't been good in horse polo since that national championship team in 1950.

mi@mic@ne

Yes i agree Terrance... all we can do is say what is obvious... at some point it will be ...we told you so... lol .. this should have been taken care of after we lost to unc in my opinion.

Terrance Sullivan

Miamicane you also need to include Broward and Palm Beach Counties as well.

mi@mic@ne

Its best for Al to start turning the d around because the high school coaches in dade are some of the best in the business. Al is showing that he doesnt like to listen and he needs to part with the losing. In Miami there is no time table to start winning. There is not excuse for losing. Thats why we have 5 national championships and a history of always being in the top five. It has nothing to do with money. Its a mind set. The best thing to do here to build that fence around dade is to get the respect of the coaches in miami by at least using a college d in college. Thats what we were about back in the day...

Terrance Sullivan

Willie Will I imagine he can't be any worse than D'No. But if we can do better than Barrow I am all for it man. We all know the current situation has to improve dramatically.

mi@mic@ne

I agree with ogv about the above post ..it showed that Virginia was last in the acc that year on the d side. Its a cardinal rule in the U camp to look at the stats and that will show you why we are last on d. Its kind of obvious that even tho Al is doing a good job of bringing in the players and all the accountability along with off season disciplines he is gonna take himself out of the culture of coaches that won in the past if he persist on having his d scheme. He doesnt have any proven record in this area and it shows he should let someone else bring in the old U defense that was always in the top five in the country. You cant go wrong with proven statistics.

WWIN

Tsully,

What has barrow ever done besides recruiting???

WWIN

Canerock,

Thanks, that's exactly my point. Then people keep talking about tamu won with a red shirt freshman, yeah they did but they wouldn't have without him, like we didn't have our best red shirt freshman.

Terrance Sullivan

I like Coach Golden just hopes he let D'No go promote Barrow and call it a day. Recruit Linebackers and Safeties cause we are paper thin at those positions.

CaneRock

Exactly.
Some folks act like personnel doesn't make a difference.
Armbrister ain't no Perryman or Johnson.
Paul ain't no Perryman or Johnson.
Rodgers ain't no Deon Bush.

Posted by: CaneRock | November 11, 2012 at 09:23 PM

What I'm saying is, it don't matter what scheme you put those guys in, they're gonna make plays.
Hell, you can line their asses up in the PARKING LOT!, on 4th and less than the width of a blade of grass, and they'll make plays!

WWIN

OGV,

We good, you still my boy. Even tho I don't agree wit everything you say it still be funny lol. Like the mutants thing lol. Its just crazy that every time the D played good you have a excuse for it.

CaneRock

My point is, take the three best players off any team and what do you have??

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | November 11, 2012 at 09:07 PM

Exactly.
Some folks act like personnel doesn't make a difference.
Armbrister ain't no Perryman or Johnson.
Paul ain't no Perryman or Johnson.
Rodgers ain't no Deon Bush.

86Cane

OGV...I may be thick but I didn't get your point in the long post with links above?

WWIN

Please don't fall into OGV's web.

He thought Larry Coker was a great coach, shows what he knows about coaching. How could you support Coker and not like Golden that's called thinking a$$ backwards

OGV no disrespect, you still my homie but you crazy as hell lol

orange 'n green in the vein

Willie, don't get sour now, it's all in jest, you're good in my book.

Besides, Golden to this point makes Coker look like the second coming of John Heisman. He's working MIRACLES at UTSA after all.

Montreal-Cane

Mens Hockey play Nov 16,17,18 in the UCF Showcase (Rockledge, FL)! They will take on Alabama,USF,and UCF! They're 13-0-1

WWIN

Willie, your lady is so lucky, you've obviously treated her to the longest honeymoon in recorded human history, well except for this one you're spending with D'No, but still, impressive man!

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | November 11, 2012 at 04:53 PM

Funny coming from a guy that supported and still supports Larry Coker. He is only second to nevin shapiro in the worst people ever involved wit the U.

SinisterCane

Great post OGV

WWIN

Who compared DP EJ and Bush being out to the ravens not having #52, #20 and suggs ...you are going to compare replacing the greatest mlb and maybe safety the nfl has seen to some freshmen or soph's on a defense that wasn't very good with those 3? Come on.

Posted by: texican cane | November 11, 2012 at 05:09 PM

Me. Did I say they were just as good as them? No. My point is, take the three best players off any team and what do you have??

laquinton

Omg. Ogv is dead right. .. though ahmad brooks was a beast.

We alll know d'no isnt going anywhere tho. This is Goldens defense.

And solar you are also right. I love Miami and living in Seattle Sucks and I wish I could go to every game but idc win or lose in a fan but every week with the same showing is tough to swallow I'm tired of looking towards next year. We have the talent to beat uva and n.Carolina . Things need to change and yes this team is young but let them make mistakes that's the only way things will change.

Terrance Sullivan

Good point OGV

Terrance Sullivan

Excellent point Solar.

86Cane

Solarcane...as usual right on point. I love U man!

orange 'n green in the vein

LOL, leave it to soiler to bottom line the whole conundrum in the time it took me to type that last post out.

Great point man, SOUP passed me along a sweet 'Space decal prior to VT's tailgate Ralph, thanks for making those up, going to have to find the perfect place for that, preferably where the neighbors flying the lizard flag down the street will see it every day, but then they'll be glad to talk smack considering they have the single digit number next to their over-promoted brand and I'm stuck waiting for UM to get the cogs placed back in the right spots to get this thing revved up again.

orange 'n green in the vein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADVYXDpZ1Xs

Things to watch for in this bowl game highlight reel;

UVA CB's five or more yards off and bailing right before the snap? Check.

DL square dancing at the line with the guy lined up across from them? Check.

Larry Fitzgerald being covered across the middle by a linebacker? Check.

TE running free down the middle of the zone constantly? Check.

Now where have I seen this all before? Al Golden defense? You know it spanky!

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/pittsburgh/2003.html

Pitt that year, Larry Fitzgerald once made Rod Rutherford look like a decent QB, that's how great he was in college.

UVA going into the year;

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/2003/preview/teams/virginia/

Stats for the year;

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/virginia/2003.html

And how they shook out in the ACC that year when it was all said and done;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Virginia_Cavaliers_football_team

This is a decent example, there's plenty more I can dig up for you guys if anybody isn't convinced that Al's not letting D'No go until he's shown the door himself because the defense is Al's idea of what to do to win at a high level.

Every week that goes by with no change is showing me there's a context problem in the thinking of the defensive shot callers at UM, they can't fix it because they have no point of reference of what is wrong with what they are doing, mentally they are suffering from a blind spot that probably only Barrow isn't afflicted by and he's just biding his time for a better job anyway so why's Mike going to rock the boat with a staff that's about as friendly to each other at this point as a pit of vipers?

solarcane

literally

solarcane

For the record, the thing that bums me out more than anything is knowing people I have met or blogged with on here and the SS for the past 7 years don't deserve a team like this to devote the amount of time and money they have invested.

I've been an avid Cane's fan pretty much as long as anyone here.
Somewhere in the middle of Randy's term it dawned on me college football championships nowadays are going to be won by schools that pour billions of dollars into stadiums, coaching staffs, and promoting "The Brand".

We are small potatoes and will continue to be a middle of the pack school with an occasional outstanding season.
Being 5-5 and having a shot at still winning the division just magnifies how crappy the ACC conference is.
G Bernard and then Duke will probably be the only current ACC players you will see have a shot at 1st team All Americans or the Heismen over the next few seasons.

Soup puts more bucks and time into the Cane's than any of us and he tries to get some of you guys to liertly stop and smell the roses.

Hell yes root for the kids , at the same time if your own wife and kids aren't ranked right around 70th in the nation right now consider spending those dollars and time doing something they might consider important also.

Terrance Sullivan

So Rashawn Scott is suspended for this game as well I would be surprised if EJ and GT play so I would imagine we would be without those 3 again. Hopefully Perryman will be back. Bush would be questionable.

mi@mic@ne

Positive in that you can see it coming together and the problem is blaring. Its a simple problem. He fixes the d and hes the next JJ lol

mi@mic@ne

This is a positive problem for Al... its at the point where he can revamp the defense and start guarding receivers so he would have only lost 3 games this year because there are a lot of young players or continue on and maybe go 6 and 6 again..but we lost to teams that had no business beating us this year.

Dude on a Pale Horse

OGV,
I just wanted to say you were 100% right on our defense. Or as some have said "offenses waterbreak." I am hoping you are 100% wrong on Al Golden believing in this garbage. He has to move on from his bff.

mi@mic@ne

fear the tie with the L on it

CGNC

A big thank you to all the current and former military who serve and have served

mi@mic@ne

If al is afraid of splintering then he aint afraid of losing enough. He needs to be more afraid of losing so he will do anything to get this ship righted.

laquinton

Rex ryan is gonna be available soon

laquinton

Coordinators become head coaches J.Haurbaugh(spellcheck]

orange 'n green in the vein

T. Sully, believe me when I tell you that I take no pride in trying to let you know these Temple guys didn't deserve their spot based off of their history and tactics. I'm just hoping, but quickly losing hope, that Al's going to wake the hell up and get a real coach who doesn't subscribe to the Paterno/Sandusky mentality on defense of letting the other team beat themselves by not executing to chain together long drives.

Most of the problem with this coordinator and scheme lies right from the opening drives where he's calling passive zones to try and first of all get the drives to self destruct by the opponent but also he's trying to see what kind of strategy the other team is going to employ this game. The problem with the second part of that is that if the first part doesn't come into play, like Thomas on Thursday who was about as bad of a converted TE playing QB as you'll ever see and his draft stock has plummeted this year because of that fact, now you're setting up the other team's trigger man with a lot of confidence right out the gate. Instead of making the guy have to mentally deal with a long day ahead and begin to affect his play negatively accordingly, D'No is giving the guy confidence by letting him make those easy 'rhythm' completions thus setting him up for a great first half. Now you've got a QB playing with confidence, now you've got a whole offense feeding off that, now you've got a problem derailing that in the second half because D'No's situational play-calling is the worst I've ever seen at UM, this includes Tim Walton as a first time coordinator mind you, so the odds of him finally dialing up something to derail that self inflicted boost of confidence on his part is null and void.

The bad news is that this is Golden's defense and he doesn't believe it sucks, despite his career results to an impartial observer telling you otherwise. So UM is stuck with the mutant from Philly even though Jethro might get sent back to the hills to shoot at some food if UM's lucky. DB coach is worthless too, he can join them, so can Carrol tweeter. Al's got about six more games to get this thing on track and then I'm going to start calling for his C- behind to get lost too, veteran head coaches such as he shouldn't be so clueless about this stuff.

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Ya gotta keep it real. We may be fans, but no sense losing perspective.

At best this a 7-5 team playing in a weak conference. All teams have injuries week to week, so no excuses about players missing a game. It's next man in. The winning teams get it done, the losers have stories to tell.

I never figured we had the talent to go much better than 6-6. Add in the poor coaching esp on D and even that becomes a stretch.

Good news, we've got Duke and Morris and a pretty good O coming back next season. Bad news, while the D may get better it will still not be very good. Just too many spots to fill and no depth behind the starters.

Dude on a Pale Horse

I'm out. Gotta go get my free dinner at Olive Garden. You know that's right. Thanks to all who have served or are serving. GO NAVY!

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