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Posted by: Sean Spence is a Beast!!! | January 31, 2013 at 09:14 PM

Yeah this is my LEAST favorite time of year. People become rabid over the actions of a teenager. Bah

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Posted by: The Dude | January 31, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Best post of the week!!!!!!!!

As stated, if he was a silent they wouldn't have pulled the offer. Maybe someone "high school coaches" need to be real with these kids n tell them an offer is just that. And until u accept it either party can WALK! If you like the offer accept. But if someone else accepts before you, u don't get to complain! I guess when AG told em get on the train before it leaves the station folks thought he was full oh shyt!

CoCane

As long as this new recruit that took Denver's scholly is elite it's all good. If he's a 2* tweener or a 3* juco player I'll be scratching head til the scalp comes off...

JCane

and while we're going over our upcoming 2013 class, let's not forget the incredibly strong south Florida 2014 class. Tomorrow coach Golden is is supposed to visit in Palm Beach county to visit with Keith Bryant, along with some 2014 stops like KC McDermott (younger bro of Shane) (top center, the guy who basically flicked off Urban...gotta love it), Travis Rudolph (wideout at Cardinal Newman) and a visit to Dwyer HS (where some strong folks like WR and track start Johnnie Dixon plays, along with other WRs, a DL and safety are possibly being looked at). There was actually some interesting info. in the PB Post today on the 2014 class.

Also, if anyone is still interested in our top 15 basketball team, huge shutdowns of #10 Oregon last night and #9 Butler tonight open up more upward movement in the rankings with a weekend road win over the Wolfpack. However, if they play like last night they likely won't win. However, the road win with sloppy play hopefully was a good learning experience for playing a mediocre opponent on the road after some huge wins. It could be quite the fantasy to see the U win out straight up to a matchup at Duke with both in the top 10.

Now, back to my old favorite of football recruiting. It gets more interesting daily, but I think Golden has a plan that is gradually taking effect.

RBLCane

Posted by: The Dude | January 31, 2013 at 10:56 PM

THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE!!!

GO CANES!!!

Montreal-Cane

If Miami is telling four-star kids who'll end up at FSU, "Sorry, no vacancy at The U," isn't that a good sign?

Yes sir!!!

Montreal-Cane

Posted by: The Dude | January 31, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Dude i agree so much with your post.

BigWindyCane1


Tim Reynolds ‏@ByTimReynolds

I'm no recruiting genius, but if Miami is telling four-star kids who'll end up at FSU, "Sorry, no vacancy at The U," isn't that a good sign?

Didn't think about that. Touche Tim...

Posted by: kenyon19ypr | January 31, 2013 at 10:49 PM

That is how I see it. When UM can tell a 4 star no, then its in a good position. Denver was given a chance to commit, and he said no and took his chances. Golden did the right thing. UM will have a strong class. I think Golden and his staff know what they are doing.

Sarasota 'cane

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CoCane

I'll just hold on to the hope that on NSD all of this will make sense. The only thing we can do as fans is trust the coaches. Dam the next 6 days are going to go by slow. It feels like I'm 7 years old waiting for Christmas again. Lol

86Cane

LONG DAY, LONG LIFE.

The Dude

This whole "let the kid have his moment" crap is complete bullsh*t. Its that crap that we are trying to get rid of at The U. Me first, me me me. F*ck that. Try actually committing to work. To effort. To shutting the f*ck up and paying your dues. Everyone is Randy Moss now. What a waste of talent that guy was for 80 percent of his career. I only care about the kids that ink on signing day. The ones that are committed to The U. The ones that want to be here and actually show it. Al Golden may have only won 7 games last year, but at least our kids wanted it. That's better than I can say than all of our Marcus Forstons and Lance Leggetts and Tyrone Moss' and Ryan Moores and Ray Ray Armstrongs and...

kenyon19ypr

Tim Reynolds ‏@ByTimReynolds

I'm no recruiting genius, but if Miami is telling four-star kids who'll end up at FSU, "Sorry, no vacancy at The U," isn't that a good sign?

Didn't think about that. Touche Tim...

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

1. Rashard Robinson silently has flipped and the "first one out" was Kirkland.
2. Terrell Brooks committed--the JUCO DT. And I don't like that Kirkland gets shafted for Brooks.

Posted by: kenyon19ypr | January 31, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Imho, i probably would've hold off on the FB committed to syracuse as we have Dillard more than capable to do the job.

You can never have too many offensive tackles but as we all know, RB's are dime a dozen!

CaneRock

Canerock, which implies Brooks is a lock Bostwick must be a silent commit too? Or how do you see this?

Posted by: kenyon19ypr | January 31, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Kenyon, those questions are better suited for the likes of 86,Ohio_Cane, and Hassan. Those guys have waaaaay more in depth info than me.

RBLCane

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | January 31, 2013 at 09:51 PM

I don't miss a game OGV! Completely agree that D'No is no good! Coach Golden seems like a pretty smart guy though and is aware his livelihood depends tremendously on D'No getting his act together. There's gotta be a legitimate reason D'No is still around and why Golden still believes in him, but IMO D'No will be a mid-season firing if he doesn't shape up.

Disagree on the "11 letdowns" comment as it implies a loss means the coach let us down and says nothing about players, depth at different positions, recruiting philosophy (as in Al's versus Randy's players), injuries, overall talent level, relative strength of opponent, sheer luck (or lack of it in this case), etc. It's a little too oversimplistic to put every loss on the coach is what I'm trying to say, especially when Coach Golden hasn't had a team he mostly put together himself on the field.

Overall though, the team got better in the W-L column in 2012, and that's all we can ask for realistically. The defense HAS to get better in year 3--it can't get worse right?--and our offense is coming back stronger, faster, more experienced. This leads me to believe the upward trend will continue and we'll at least get to 9 wins in 2013, and I'm cool with that so long as we continue to get better every year.

The immediate issue at hand, though, is recruiting, and I don't necessarily see the Denver Kirkland news as a reason to reach for the cyanide. The big league coaches, the Meyers and Sabans of the world, pull these kinds of moves all the time, and although it leaves a bad taste in your mouth, college football, ESPECIALLY at the []_[], is a business. That means that difficult, unpopular decisions have to be made sometimes, even if it means leaving poor old Denver Kirland out in the cold (who, BTW, has a binder full of other offers. If he really wanted to go to the []_[], if it was really is "dream school," the kid should've pulled the trigger!).

GO CANES!!!

The Dude

If Kirkland was a silent. They wouldn't have pulled his scholly. They would have taken someone elses like Gall. BTW is trying to play around. Just like MNW. The State of Miami doesn't want to play by the rules. Why would they? Unless you are a Duke Johnson, true Cane, why pass up the $EC? Harris knows the improper benefits game. He knows how it goes down. He's seen it happen at Miami. Golden probably told him he's not playing ball.

kenyon19ypr

Canerock, which implies Brooks is a lock Bostwick must be a silent commit too? Or how do you see this?

CaneRock

CaneRock, then it HAS to be Brooks! Right? And like I said, I just don't see it! I would much rather have 4-5 years of Kirkland... I'm trying to trust Golden, but MT6 is at stake here. This REALLY bothers me.

Posted by: kenyon19ypr | January 31, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Kenyon, I don't know about Brooks, but DK's Dad said something about oversigning DLmen also...TIFWIW:

"From CaneInsider: Kirkland’s stepfather, Shanton Crummie, informed XOFan/CaneInsider of the news earlier tonight. He said the explanation he’s receiving from the Miami coaching staff is that they over signed defensive lineman and therefore Kirkland’s scholarship was used up."

The Dude

We may not get MT6 now. Oh well. Looks like SoFl is corrupt to me. We won't win unless we open up our check books. Watch. They will go $EC.

The Dude

Harris knows the game from both sides. He also knows Golden and the staff can't defend themselves. I think he is shady and looking for handouts.

kenyon19ypr

CaneRock, then it HAS to be Brooks! Right? And like I said, I just don't see it! I would much rather have 4-5 years of Kirkland... I'm trying to trust Golden, but MT6 is at stake here. This REALLY bothers me.

The Dude

Dang, should have refreshed. OGV stole my thunder.

The Dude

Mr. Harris is probably twisting some UM arms for things. Like he did with his own son.

CaneRock

Ice told ESPN there was a commitment on the defensive side of the ball today that hasn't been announced.

Posted by: kenyon19ypr | January 31, 2013 at 10:15 PM

A DLman to be exact:

"Don't come to us in the end and say you're going in another direction because of a defensive lineman."

roachcane77

You know, no matter what the reason... this is NOT good... ESPECIALLY since the Manny story paints us in such a bad light.

Perception is a HUGE thing, and the perception of The U in this matter is NOT good.

I don't know if the real "reason" for this can ever be good enough to outweigh the damage it may have caused...

I guess only time will tell...

kenyon19ypr

Ice told ESPN there was a commitment on the defensive side of the ball today that hasn't been announced.

We're looking at two options in my mind:
1. Rashard Robinson silently has flipped and the "first one out" was Kirkland.
2. Terrell Brooks committed--the JUCO DT. And I don't like that Kirkland gets shafted for Brooks.

CaneRock

CaneRock, we can wait for other kids on NSD but we can't wait for
DK?

That's what's effed up about it, it's less than a week from now and we couldn't wait, this don't sound good to other recruits/targets, trust me.

Posted by: Sean Spence is a Beast!!! | January 31, 2013 at 09:58 PM

SSIAB, again, Harris assured Barrow that DK was going to UM...BUT, when Barrow pressed DK for a commitment, He says wait till signing day. If this is the way this recruiting game goes, how many kids are we missing out on, because some "Big Timer" is holding us hostage.

orange 'n green in the vein

SSiaB, I can see your two wrongs don't make recruiting games right POV on this but honestly, the coaches are paid to do what's best for the program and they don't really owe anyone anything until they've made the decision to be a part of the program by signing the intent letter. These last two coach hires appeared to be an attempt to more quickly establish roots to the local coaches who apparently see the MAC guys as outsiders/not willing to prostrate themselves for the local high school coaches' demands so I hope what's going on here is a number crunch shuffle on the staff's part not a sign of Ice getting a cold shoulder for something, how shall we say, extra, he was asking for to be passed below the surface of the table.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Why are we being selective at this point? I think Miami have enough ammo now against the NCAA to have a better fuller class this year. Golden should just go for the homerun and get all the kids he can get. Don't understand why he is still holding up on scholarships.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

CaneRock, we can wait for other kids on NSD but we can't wait for
DK?

That's what's effed up about it, it's less than a week from now and we couldn't wait, this don't sound good to other recruits/targets, trust me.

kenyon19ypr

I don't know how to spin this positively. I'm flat-out shocked right now... Especially with some top players coming out of BTW next year. Simply at a loss for words. This whole Kirkland concerns me... a lot. He was even a silent commit... I know we have to wait six days for the answer, but was the bridge with "Ice" worth burning?

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Aha! There might be a silver lining after all:


Papa Cane ‏@ByPapaCane
With "Bad" News, Comes Good News and @CANEINSIDER will spill the beans shortly. UM coaches making a big move. Power play in works.


Told you!

GO CANES!!!

Posted by: RBLCane | January 31, 2013 at 09:49 PM

So we burn bridges so we can get maybe an out of state big time recruit? I still get the move, i'd take south florida talent any day.

Ya'll can burn me with my comment but it's true, you probably prefer them as well!

CoCane

I'm usually the one that says stay tuned but I must admit. This is some shakey shyt. If NSD is a disappointment, the vibe will be fukked up for me & a lot of fans. I'll have to stay tuned but this situation sucks azz right now...

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

RBL, when kids from south florida are helping other schools win national championships and other big time bowls, it is a pretty big deal right now to not burn bridges with local high schools. Our 5 national championship were won because of backyard recruits. I can't keep watching college football and all i see are the Amari Coopers, Teddy Bridgewaters, Giovanni Bernards, Patrick Johnsons etc. of the world making plays for rivals and out of state universities!

CaneRock

also kids flip on schools on NSD all the time and it's always "whats best for him" but if a school does it because it is "whats best for them" then they are the villain? ?

Posted by: Panamacitycane | January 31, 2013 at 09:43 PM

I agree, Coaches gotta cover their asses to. And even by Harris's own admission, He said Kirkland told Him UM, but when pressed by Barrow, Kirkland told Him "UM was in His top 3". Can't let these kids hold a program hostage. But this sucks though, UM might've been DK's "Dream School", but He apparently screwed it up for these made for TV shenanigans.

orange 'n green in the vein

"Posted by: RBLCane | January 31, 2013 at 09:33 PM"

I can tell you haven't been watching much UM football these last two years except against BCU with comments like that one RBLC. There's 11 times Golden's let UM fans down at the very least over that time, plus all 730+ days he didn't hire a coordinator for the defense at UM.

On the plus side, his wife apparently really likes living in Miami, at least according to him, so there's that.

RBLCane

Aha! There might be a silver lining after all:


Papa Cane ‏@ByPapaCane
With "Bad" News, Comes Good News and @CANEINSIDER will spill the beans shortly. UM coaches making a big move. Power play in works.


Told you!

GO CANES!!!

360Cane

Fence is up or pipeline is shut off. Which is it? lol

RBLCane

Coach Harris is pissed, not good!

Posted by: Sean Spence is a Beast!!! | January 31, 2013 at 09:34 PM


Won't be the first or the last time a prominent local HS coach is unhappy with our staff... Not good but not the end of the world either... The []_[] will keep rising... The ship is headed in the right direction and the university as a whole is much more attractive and prestigious than it's ever been... This is what kids will see in the end and not the gripings of their HS coaches... This might also motivate kids to "commit" sooner and wean themselves off of all the NSD hype and attention... I wouldn't know personally but it's obviously an exciting thing to commit to a school nationally or even locally and to be on TV and all that... That being said, it's nothing when compared to the glory of playing at the []_[] when it's on top of the college football world and sending multitudes to the league.

GO CANES!!!

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

also kids flip on schools on NSD all the time and it's always "whats best for him" but if a school does it because it is "whats best for them" then they are the villain? I am just saying there is something to do this. Golden is an amazing recruiter and has his reasons.. i am thinking they got news that a BIG TIME recruit may be coming and needed a spot?

Posted by: Panamacitycane | January 31, 2013 at 09:43 PM

Yeah but you don't do it to a kid who does it the right way, heck, it ain't alright either if Miami pulled a fast one on KB despite what he is doing with the flipping and messing around with people's headsright now.

Panamacitycane

also kids flip on schools on NSD all the time and it's always "whats best for him" but if a school does it because it is "whats best for them" then they are the villain? I am just saying there is something to do this. Golden is an amazing recruiter and has his reasons.. i am thinking they got news that a BIG TIME recruit may be coming and needed a spot?

NYCane

So is the U burning or hurting ties to a local power house high school program, cause we don't have a schollie for him... but we do for JUCO kid?? Nothing against the JUCO commits or any other commits
but this will effect our future recruitment, with BTW but also other programs.

Strange things are afoot!!

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

lets wait till NSD before we all go jump out of a window. This is why I hate the NCAA rule about coaches talking about recruits. Now Miami can't speak for themselves to get the real story out. I know there are theories but I don't believe anything I hear from "SOURCES"

Posted by: Panamacitycane | January 31, 2013 at 09:37 PM

Granted, you're right. There's always 2 sides of the story.

But it's hard to spin this story around. It's very simple to understand, Denver never played games and only intended to wait til' signing day so he can have his 15 min. of fame, nothing wrong with that. The kid is entitled to have a final 3, it's not like he pulled a Keith Bryant!

Unless, Keith himself is the reason? Hmmnn. . .

They did say over signing DL's is the reason, maybe something is brewing in KB's part? We'll see!

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Hopefully 6 will understand that it's nothing personal... Same goes to the other BTW and South Florida recruits.

RBL, Six is a kid and so are other future hs recruits, what u talking bout? Everything is personal to these this kids, teenagers especially are easy to get caught in these kind of things. It's all about the now for them and realizes mistakes later in life. This about ruined some dade connection for Golden at least at the moment, let's see how he fixes it!

Panamacitycane

lets wait till NSD before we all go jump out of a window. This is why I hate the NCAA rule about coaches talking about recruits. Now Miami can't speak for themselves to get the real story out. I know there are theories but I don't believe anything I hear from "SOURCES"

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Coach Harris is pissed, not good!

RBLCane

This was bound to happen... IMO the Coley hire, especially with it being so late in the game, gained us a few recruits not previously on our big board that we'll find out about come NSD... Also means we had to make space elsewhere... It's too bad as I really like Kirkland... It's a business and a numbers game at the end of the day (or a "meat market" as Bruce Feldman would put it)... Hopefully 6 will understand that it's nothing personal... Same goes to the other BTW and South Florida recruits.

I think everything will work itself out... The media, Manny ans Susan included, tend to be really negative at times (and then they wonder why fan commentators on the MH blog are borderline suicidal! LOL)

Trust in Al people! He hasn't let us down yet. As my pastor likes to say, "when things look tough, it means a blessing is right around the corner!" Let's stay positive until the fat lady sings!

GO CANES!!!

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Gets:

Bostwick
MT6
Collins

Misses:

Kirkland (Obvious reason)
Coley (FSU)
Edwards (FSU)
Grace (Ville, seems momentum has shifted to them)
Cunningham (Stanford)

CaneRock

Booker T. coach Tim "Ice" Harris says he's stunned UM pulled scholarship from Kirkland

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2013/01/booker-t-coach-tim-ice-harris-says-hes-stunned-um-pulled-scholarship-from-kirkland.html#storylink=cpy

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Agreed^^^

Not looking good people, this just about wraps up our 2013 recruiting class, we get atleast 2-3 max out of maybe 6-7 targets we are still hoping for.

semperfi_cane

No matter what the real story is, this certainly is a blow to Golden's reputation with local coaches moving forward.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Look alive people! It's still all about this []_[]! It'll all work out.

[]_[] I N * A L * I * T R U S T []_[]

GO CANES!!!

Posted by: RBLCane | January 31, 2013 at 09:22 PM

Funny how Denver's last tweet was 'Trust no one but God', i think there's more to this story, Denver done it the right way, we all wish for kids to do it the right way and not horse around with commitments, this kid waits and approaches everything with class, with less than a week he was told by coaches you have no spot. I think this is on our coaches and not him.

RBLCane

Look alive people! It's still all about this []_[]! It'll all work out.

[]_[] I N * A L * I * T R U S T []_[]

GO CANES!!!

CaneRock

That might explain why Miami is making a late push for that FSU 4-Star OL committ...Well thats one down

Posted by: UMike | January 31, 2013 at 09:07 PM

Yeah UMike, goes back to our exchange yesterday. I know AG was in Madison County last Spring, so maybe they were keeping tabs on Denson all along...who knows.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Very odd times. They, Miami, should've done this a while ago, not less than a week to signing day. Very very odd.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

I'm just about done with this recruiting cycle, it's frustrating to see how everything is unfolding.

Would very much love for us to compete nationally in recruiting, i'm not much of a stargazer but there is certain perception in a team that finishes up with big time recruits, i want that quality of perception to be back in coral gables, that's all!

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

That might explain why Miami is making a late push for that FSU 4-Star OL committ...Well thats one down

Posted by: UMike | January 31, 2013 at 09:07 PM

Yes, this doesn't make sense, we don't have a scholly left for Kirkland and yet we have an FSU OL commit visiting us officially, something's up?

UMike

That might explain why Miami is making a late push for that FSU 4-Star OL committ...Well thats one down

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Why we have to say no to Denver? Imo, let's just use Edwards scholly offer for Kirkland and make sure we keep a lineage with BTW, that is more important to me and majority of south florida canes fans. This is not gonna sit well with Six and future recruits coming out of that high school.

I know Coley likes the FB commit to syracuse but Edwards is not a big need, we have Dillard to play as fullback.

semperfi_cane

I'm just hoping that the coaches have already been notified which players are picking the Canes, and the schollies just ran out. However, hope is certainly not a strategy.

Ohio_Cane

Doesn't affect 6 whatsoever. From what it looks like, staff has known for a while.

The Wizard

The train has left Denver Kirkland.

HawaiiCane

How does it affect '6'? Also, how does he state is has to do with academic issues in the conversation, but not that he hasn't qualified. It's a confusing statement.

PlayaCane aka Rashad

Per Manny:


Guess I should have stuck around for the end of Booker T. Washington's state championship parade.

All-American offensive lineman Denver Kirkland confirmed Thursday night UM is no longer in the picture for him, just a couple of hours after saying he loved the coaches and the program.

What led to this surprising news? Kirkland said he had a private conversation with UM assistant coach Micheal Barrow and Booker T. head coach Tim "Ice" Harris following the parade in which they discussed an issue that came up with him going to UM.

Was it academics? "Yeah, it was an academic thing," Kirkland said.

Is it that you didn't have the grades or test score to get in? "No, not that," he said.

Is he upset? "No. I'm still going to play college football somewhere," he said.

Kirkland said his final four is now South Florida, Florida State, Ole Miss sand Arkansas.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2013/01/kirkland-um-is-out-of-the-picture.html#storylink=cpy

semperfi_cane

Per John Bastian on twitter, Canes have informed Denver Kirkland that they no longer have a schollie available for him.

The Wizard

Wow, Manny Navarro reporting that Denver Kirkland is "OUT OF THE PICTURE" !

WWIN

(all the past 7 NCs had significant numbers of highly ranked classes and NFL caliber talent).

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | January 31, 2013 at 06:34 PM

I will have to add that those last 7 NC's came against weak teams

WWIN

herb,

you can't be on both sides of the fence dog pound. Sounds to me that you want Coker back, a coach that only looks at the stars

SOUP

New Port Richey to Winter Haven.

On my way back to the CCC.

Lead follow and get out of the way.

DallasTX Cane

Stars are a funny thing... U don't need them to create a winning, successful program (see TCU, Boise, etc)... Having them is no guarantee of success (see TX or USC lately)... BUT, not having them seems to make winning the NC close to impossible these days (all the past 7 NCs had significant numbers of highly ranked classes and NFL caliber talent).

The Wizard

I just looked at the announcement schedule televised by ESPN. Stacey Coley is scheduled at 11:00 am. Makenzie Alexander is scheduled for 11:15 am. Canes are on from 11-12.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM .............. ??????????????

WWIN

Herb,

According to you a smurf is 6'1 but a beast is 6'2???

Who have YOU PERSONALLY seen play in person????

Golden is a helluva lot better at recruiting and evaluating talent than Coker and Shannon. But which side are you on? Because I thought you said you liked what Golden is doing? But you just mentioning gary ferman, now I understand where you come up wit all this stuff now.

herbieibis

Canerock,
They did win the ship. They did shut N.D. down.I beleive they were ranked #1 defensively, so what do we have in common with them?

CaneRock

I'm not loving these guys because it's a dam pity party, it's only results I'm looking for and we ain't winning nothing with a bunch mediocre players.

Posted by: herbieibis | January 31, 2013 at 02:08 PM

I don't know if they're mediocre, but Alabama's D-Line wasn't exactly setting the PHUCKIN'! world on fire either.

Mcginns ale house

did Ira denson cancel his visit?

herbieibis

Willie,
6'2 is closer to 6'3 than 6'1 is. What's the difference between Shannon's & Coker's 2's & 3's than Al's? What have Al's 2's & 3's done yet. That's not a fair question because Al's boy's haven't had time to mature yet. I guess the jury is still out.
I also hope Goldie is hooping & hollaring on NSD and you dam right, I do want them signed, sealed & delivered. Read on Canesport, what Gary Ferman said about recruiting. He must of stole my story from canespace yesterday because he's saying the same thing I said yesterday on here. We shouldn't be sitting here waiting on 8 or 9 guys to define our class, maybe 2 to 4 but not that many. Hop on over and read it.

DallasTX Cane

Posted by: LA3 | January 31, 2013 at 03:38 PM

Awesome article. Thx for the post LA3. Brought back some great memories. What a great feeling it was watching us come "back" '00-01. Cannot wait to have that feeling again!

Great work lately 86 and all U posters bringing the news. The articles have been as good as the hoops squad this off season! Seems like all kinds of things are looking up for The U these days! Now, if the baseball team can get thier act together...RIP Coach Fraser. Thank U.

DallasTX Cane

Jerome Brown

WWIN

^^^^
*mad*

WWIN

Upnorth,

I'm still made about that fake Coley commitment. Lol

WWIN

Stacy Coley will announce at 11 a.m. on National Signing Day.

Interesting that he announces when Golden's NSD party on ESPN starts, huh?? HUH???LOL

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 31, 2013 at 04:01 PM

Golden is DEFINITELY setting something up, I tried to tell herb that yesterday but he already wants em signed and attending classes

WWIN

Herb,

Also it's a BIG DIFFERENCE between Golden's 2* & 3*'s vs Coker and Shannon's

WWIN

Herb,

Thanks for responding. Although I asked you like 30 questions and you only answered 0. I like how you said you like what Golden is doing but you don't think he's going to close on signing day. So a 6'2 dt is better than a 6'1 dt?

Ohio_Cane

Stacy Coley will announce at 11 a.m. on National Signing Day.

Interesting that he announces when Golden's NSD party on ESPN starts, huh?? HUH???

LOL

LA3

And for all of the those that want to
BE part of the CANES family & tradition!

The "loved football" part was perhaps most important. Gore was a great example, as he came to Miami despite having to wait behind Portis and McGahee. Asked at Super Bowl media day Tuesday why he didn't shy away from that, Gore said, "Competition. If you want to be the best, you have to play with the best. I wasn't scared of competition."

Gore carried a football around campus in those days, held high and tight, because he knew his day would come. "He could care less about anything but school and football," says Mike Rumph, one of those 17 first-round picks. "Most guys are chasing girls, thinking about stuff at home. Not him. First day out to practice, most guys have special sleeves or new shoes. He's out there with no gloves. Just a jersey, shorts, and helmet. He was like Mike Tyson."

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"The toughest battle was Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday," says Schiano. "That's the thing I remember – the competition." Asked if it was as intense as the NFL, Schiano said: "In some ways even more so. At the U of Miami, we were trying to bring the program back. There was such a hunger there. That's one of the reasons they practiced so hard against each other."

herbieibis

CoCane,
You're right about that, he is the best we got, which isn't saying much. You are also right about the dt's not getting to many sacks, but where does it say, in the rules that they can't put pressure on the QB? Last, our defense can't help but be better next year, another year stronger, another year wiser, plus we didn't lose anyone, except Mcgee.

Ohio_Cane

1st of all. Even the most dominant DT's usually don't get a lot of sacks.

Posted by: CoCane | January 31, 2013 at 03:32 PM
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Have to completely agree with this. Vince Wilfork, all bias aside, has been one of the most dominant DT's EVER.

U know how many sacks he has for his career? 16

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CoCane

1st of all. Even the most dominant DT's usually don't get a lot of sacks. 2nd, he didn't come back until the 9th game of the season after HIS APPENDIX BURST. He didn't play in top condition. 3rd the run defense was much better when he came back. Lastly & the biggest point I was making. He's not as garbage as the other players you mentioned. PERIOD. They're career back ups. Porter would have started the last couple of seasons if healthy. And he's the best DT we have including Olson Pierre, that helped that D-line suck azz until Porter came back. I would say he's injury prone but you can't say his play is as bad as those guys you named. To be fair, I'll wait til I see him play next year to officially label him a difference maker. Can't really judge him until he's healthy for a full season.

j.w.

Lots of debate here- thanks everyone, you made by 15 minute lunch "hour" fun. back to the "fun" . . .

Ohio_Cane

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herbieibis

CoCane,
The dudes been here going on 5 years and yes he has been hurt and when he has played he's been descent but he hasn't been a game changer and he ain't sacking the QB, now if he supposedly makes everyone around him start playing better, so be it but we still coughed up over 400 yds a game, so you be the judge.

CoCane

Herb,

That is avery mediocre list. What makes your vision questionable is that you continue to mention Porter with those scrubs. Not just Golden, D'No & Franklin but even Kirk Herbstreit plus other notable analysts all agreed that Curtis Porter is the difference maker at DT they've been missing. He's had some bad roll of the dice injuries, so obviously there's no production if you don't play. I won't say he's all acc but he has that potential if healthy if people that really know the game says our Entire defensive production suffers when he's not on the field.

Bottom line you're entitled to your own opinion but I would never disrespect Porter but mentioning his talent & ability with the players that you grouped him with.

CaneRock

Im sorry Canerock but mrs. Feliciano is no where near Donna Savattere, lets take off our orange and green glasses at least for this lmaoo....

This lady is HOTT

Posted by: UpNorthCane | January 31, 2013 at 02:09 PM

LMAO!

UNC...Savattere is hot in a "suburban-type-put-olive oil on yo' turkey for Thanksgiving and just season it with salt-n-pepper type of way".

But Mrs.Feliciano...sh!!!!!T, now She's hot in a "just slap some margarine on that b!tch and sprinkle some a lot of that Lawrys seasoning on that mutheffa type of way".

And my orange and green shades work just fine THANK YOU! LMAO!

UpNorthCane27

Im sorry Canerock but mrs. Feliciano is no where near Donna Savattere, lets take off our orange and green glasses at least for this lmaoo....

This lady is HOTT

herbieibis

Willie,
Sorry I haven't got back to you with my reply but I'll make this short and sweet. Talent wins Ships and if you follow the recruiting circuit, you'll see the teams with the most 4 & 5 star players are the teams winning the ships. Now some of those stars are going to be bust, it happens. It's a new age and it's just the facts. Eddie Johnson had a nice year but where was he at at the end of the year. Al had him on ice. Consistency, dog! We've had plenty of 1 year wonders. Show me some all ACC, type talent on the field, Like Duke did.I'll give you these names and you tell me what kind of talent do we have. Rodgers, Highsmith, Cain, Gaines, L. Robinson, Porter, Green, Armbrister, & Cornelius. These Guys have started at one time or another on defense. Where's the star power. Not even a 3RD team all ACC & Green had no sacks as a DE. He's a great story and he's a tough kid but for the most part these guys would be nothing more than descent back ups at your top schools. If this is being negative then the truth must hurt because you ain't watching the same games I was watching. I'm not loving these guys because it's a dam pity party, it's only results I'm looking for and we ain't winning nothing with a bunch mediocre players. You can love them all you want but it's the truth. You like 6'1 DT's, then I suggest you watch division 3 Football, because the last time I checked, we don't play no 3-4 and we have 4 that size. I like what Al is doing, I believe in him and I hope the pot at the end of this rainbow, is flowing with Bryant, Coley, Thomas, Kirkland, Collins, Edwards, Bostwick & Grace, that my friend is what I call a lot of talent.

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