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February 01, 2013

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UMike

I just dont get why the kid just didnt say "Look, I will sign with Miami, I promise..but please dont tell anyone and let me enjoy this and get myself and my teammates on tv" lol

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Lord, there's more action on this board over recruiting than on game day!

Time will tell what AG has going on here. My GUESS is the that they have someone on the D side they feel they can get, and another OL isn't going to make a big difference.

Or to be simple, they just got tired of the games and moved on to someone else...

calGary Cane

I just dont get why the kid just didnt say "Look, I will sign with Miami, I promise..but please dont tell anyone and let me enjoy this and get myself and my teammates on tv" lol

Posted by: UMike | February 01, 2013 at 12:13 PM

If he really wanted to come to the U, he was really badly advised.

RBLCane

Barry Jackson's take from the Sports Buzz:

02/01/2013
UM recruiting update with Signing Day looming; NFL media column

Five days before National Signing Day, here’s the most stunning factoid about UM’s recruiting class: The Canes have as many commitments from players who grew up in Nigeria as they do from recruits who attended high school in Dade or Broward.

As one clever fan cracked to Manny Navarro on Twitter, UM is putting up a wall.

Around Nigeria.

But seriously… the fact that UM has snagged only two local kids – defensive backs Artie Burns and Jamal Carter – is eye-opening and a bit disconcerting at this late date. That’s not to say UM’s class is inferior. There are some very good players in this group of 12 – quarterback Kevin Olsen, Burns, defensive end Al-Quadin Muhammed and tight ends Beau Sandland and Standish Dobard.

But UM needs to close with a flourish.

That’s why many will question UM’s decision to pull its scholarship offer to Denver Kirkland after Kirkland refused to accept what amounted to a take-it-or-leave-it offer on Thursday.

Kirkland, ranked ninth nationally among offensive tackles by rivals.com, is universally rated higher than the three offensive linemen who are orally committed to UM: Alex Gall, Hunter Knighton and Sonny Odogwu.

Booker T. Washington coach Tim Harris, who used to work for UM, reacted angrily; check out Manny Navarro’s UM blog for details.

Harris didn’t go as far as to say it would hurt UM’s chances of luring Matthew Thomas, one of the nation’s top linebackers, but you have to wonder.

A quick Canes update with signing day approaching:

### Defensive tackle: Considering Miami's need for impact d-tackles, it will be a disappointment if UM can’t lure either Jaynard Bostwick or Keith Bryant. But Bryant has said Miami is trailing FSU and South Carolina, and Bostwick has a strong relationship with the Gators’ defensive coaches and will spend the weekend visiting UF.

UM still believes it has a real chance with Bostwick, but the Hurricanes are no longer a favorite here. At best, it’s a tossup for the Port St. Lucie tackle. And Alabama isn’t out of the question. If Bryant reverses course and picks UM, it would be a major surprise.

UM has a decent chance of grabbing defensive tackle Terrell Brooks, a junior college All-American in Texas this season. But his coach told me tonight that he’s not sure what Brooks will do, and that Kansas State and Baylor also are in the mix.

### Running back: As long as UM gets either Alex Collins or Augustus Edwards, the Canes will be content. But it would be troublesome if they don’t get either.

Collins’ coach, Doug Gatewood, told both me and Manny Navarro today that he isn’t pushing Collins to Arkansas, contrary to Internet chatter. He said "I don't think Alex knows" what to do. That gives him only the weekend to choose among UM, Arkansas, UF and Wisconsin before he announces on Fox Sports at 10 p.m. Monday.

Gatewood denied a report that Collins has cut the field to just Miami and Arkansas, but it would be a surprise if he doesn’t end up at one of those two schools.

Meanwhile, Edwards told Rivals.com tonight that he no longer ranks FSU ahead of UM and has both schools about even heading into his Coral Gables visit this weekend.

### Linebacker: FSU always has been confident about landing Thomas, but UM and Alabama remained strongly in the mix as of Thursday. But it remains to be seen whether Thomas is influenced by the Hurricanes’ spurning of Kirkland…. Louisville and Tennessee are making a hard push for Miramar’s Jermaine Grace, but it would be a mild surprise if he doesn’t pick UM.

### Receiver: Stacy Coley, the only receiver that UM really covets, hasn’t tipped his hand, but is said to be strongly considering UM, FSU and USF. Mississippi also has drawn consideration. His coach said he loved his USF visit this past weekend.

### Tight end: With Jeremy Kerr switching his commitment to FSU, UM has an opening for a third tight end in this class and is targeting Virginia-based Ryheem Lockley, who will visit this weekend. UM and UF appear the top contenders, according to canesport.com, but Lockley likely will spend this fall in prep school. Miami also has resumed speaking to Indiana-based Nate Wozniak, who also can play offensive tackle.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/

GO CANES!!!

UMike

calGary..I agree...BUT..IF he so torn up about it and really wants to come to Miami, I find it hard to believe the coaches would accept him.

herbieibis

You have to remember guys, Al's only been at this big time recuiting stuff for a couple of years. He's still like a kid in a candy store, who can't understand his good fortune.
UMike, I feel ya pain dog! Every year someones telling me to take a chill pill too! If Kirk would of just said coach I'm going to "DA U" but don't tell know one then I'm sure they wouldn't of had to come up with a lame excuse to yank his paper, if that is indeed the way it went down. I'm sure they're are at least 3 of those boys, who will have Goldie waiting until signing day to know if we are the chosen ones! They have that opportunity but kirkland doesn't?
We also have about 3 or 4 guys verballed that we probably could have gotten anyway, if al else failed.

Ohio_Cane

Defensive tackle: Considering Miami's need for impact d-tackles, it will be a disappointment if UM can’t lure either Jaynard Bostwick or Keith Bryant. But Bryant has said Miami is trailing FSU and South Carolina
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This is why I take everything Barry Jackson has to say with a grain of salt.

Is he actually listening to Keef? Keef's been lying to everyone for months now. A day after he said this, he posted something along the lines of "All about them Canes"

UMike

Ohio...Jackson is just reporting what is said and what is out there...as for Keef..I dont believe anything that kid says lol

CoCane

I have a feeling Kirkland gets his offer back somehow & still signs with us. Just a feeling

Ohio_Cane

Cash reporting that 6 is not coming to Miami and that's what led to the Kirkland situation, not the other way around.

Ohio_Cane

Cash reporting that 6 is not coming to Miami and that's what led to the Kirkland situation, not the other way around.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 01, 2013 at 12:38 PM
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Take this for what it's worth. It's from a "source" and could just be a rumor to throw people off.

As I said yesterday AND few days ago, RUMORS FLY the week of NSD. Could be complete BS

CoCane

Who is Cash? You mean $?

RBLCane

No matter how you put it, something doesn't add up here and there's gotta be more to this story than what's been published.

There are a bunch of players inferior to Kirkland who have either verbally committed to or are still considering us and hence getting more courteous treatment than Kirkland (players without a Matthew Thomas as a teammate mind you).

It doesn't make sense that UM would do what Harris is alleging given the numerous potential repercussions when it could have easily pulled an inferior recruit's offer instead (as has happened in the past under both Golden (Belen Jesuit's Menocal) and Shannon (MNW's Todd Chandler).

Something just doesn't add up here.

orange 'n green in the vein

Posted by: UMike | February 01, 2013 at 10:32 AM"

Because you hired your college roommate to be the worst coordinator that your current employer has ever had and won't fire him for his lack of performance?

Good to see the herb is lighting the Miami Golden strain today for all our enjoyment. I thought he was moving on to 2014 for his own mental health though? Don't say we didn't try to keep you above this fray before the fact herb, the 'Space tried to do right by you before it got crazy at the NSD finish line! You should have listened to your friends on the 'Space herb!

The Dude got me to LOL this morning too.

I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a thunder is micturated upon on this fair blog, I have to compensate the owner?

j.w.

Damn, love and hate recruiting at the same time. FWIW, I don't think the Kirkland saga was handled well at all, too many hurt feelings. Not saying this is all on UM, but communication appears to have been lacking on this one.
On to the next one- Barry Jackson's concerns are realistic, and he is in the business of selling papers, so you can't really expect him to say "don't worry, everything is going to be fine." having said that, my advice is don't worry, everything is going to turn out fine. :)

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Jermaine Grace is doing the same thing but nobody seems to be annoyed by it. Shiit, didn't he change his announcement date like a thousand times and at one point solid to commit to Miami but is now looking like it's a two team race along with L'ville.

Point is, we have time to wait for kids like KB who trolls around with fans and Grace who is in the same boat as DK and yet most of you blast the kid for waiting until nsd, it doesn't make sense, i know we all love the U but there's no way to spin this story.

Ya'll can keep saying he shouldn't have waited this long, in the end he did it the right way we have all wished a kid would do to his recruitment.

Face it, that hat trick isn't going anywhere and a 17 yr old kid will always be a 17 yr old kid, he ain't the last that would do it. Accept the games of recruiting coz' it is here to stay.

j.w.

I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a thunder is micturated upon on this fair blog, I have to compensate the owner?

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | February 01, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Words and phrases that I never thought I would see on a college sports blog. :)

Ohio_Cane

Who is Cash? You mean $?

Posted by: CoCane | February 01, 2013 at 12:41 PM
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Not actual money, no. Handle name is Cash. Knows a good bit of people, and has some good "insiders"

Ohio_Cane

SSIB, the difference between Kirkland and Grace is... wait for it... Grace is already a silent commit. Has been for a while.

They wanted Kirkland to commit NOW. Not publicly, but just to them. He could still have his day on TV, give his school the TV time, etc. He didn't want to, so we moved on instead of getting left at the altar.

UMike

OK..so at the moment my prediction list of kids choosing Miami is Grace, Edwards and Coley lol...it was a longer a couple days ago lol (enter "thats what she said" joke here)

86Cane

If he really wanted to come to the U, he was really badly advised.

Posted by: calGary Cane | February 01, 2013 at 12:21 PM

THIS X 1,000

Ohio_Cane

Cash reporting that 6 is not coming to Miami and that's what led to the Kirkland situation, not the other way around.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 01, 2013 at 12:38 PM
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Update on Thomas from previous post...

From Cash now: Guys hold on to your seats... We are trying to clarify something's with Thomas. Not sure there may have been a flip back last night so just be patient. Long story and I'll explain later. I got a message in & am waiting a return. No promises but just hang tight

Like I said, boys and girls, it's the week of NSD! LOL! Believe none of what U hear, and only 10% of what U see! LOLOLOL

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Ok, granted that's true so what is the whole point of switching announcement dates? Regardless of dates, he would've been on TV or radio whatever anyways. That alone can get into a coaches skin as well, whether he is silently committed or not. Remember, commitments are non-binding and kids mind could change in a heartbeat so it's not like he is a sure thing either.

Why can't we respect the kid for wanting to keep us in the top 3 and wait until nsd? I mean if they ain't sure about DK signing on wednesday then have a plan B, shiit, i'm sure there are a lot of Juco ranked players who would love to sign with us at the very last minute regrdless if they've seen the campus or not. After all, we pretty much have chosen a juco in place of DK so what is there to lose?

Ohio_Cane

Ok, granted that's true so what is the whole point of switching announcement dates?

Posted by: Sean Spence is a Beast!!! | February 01, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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Was reported multiple times the only reason he switched dates was because they were having trouble getting TV companies to cover it on certain days.

Actually, I said here a few times "Grace has his mind made up, he's not flip-flopping. He's trying to get TV coverage for his school.

86Cane

SSIB...are U sitting in the same room as UMike and Herbie? At times I would almost swear that U guys all share the same keyboard.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

I get u ohio, i'm really not trying to have my point across.

This DK situation is not good any way we canes fans spin it. I just hope it doesn't become a prolong issue.

Ohio_Cane

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pass this situation off as good. For those who don't follow things much, or just listen to the radio/Ice/Luther, it looks horrible for Golden and staff.

I'm saying the reasoning and outcome because of this situation will be a good one.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

86, much respect to you but not every canes fans will have the same opinion or say in things.

We are just concern, we are not against anyone especially Golden. I love our coach and what he does.

However, this situation is bigger than most people think and i'm hoping everything we'll be fixed sooner than later.

We all can't just agree to 'We all bleed orange and green' and 'Trust the tie' or the '5>3>2 argument so everything will take care of itself coz' we have a legend and we are the U'.

Times have changed so we need to take care of relationships, especially to local community! It is what makes the University of Miami and it's not just the alumni.

orange 'n green in the vein

"Posted by: UMike | February 01, 2013 at 12:52 PM"

Since you already mined that old chestnut preemptively I'll just go with a, "Thanks to a $50 2oz can of deer antler extract spray it can be just as long again by the end of the week if you're willing to risk having some male escort leak your name to the Miami New Times later on down the line," joke instead now UM.

j.w., I've been playing catch-up since all the Hawaii catfishing jokes got stale on me before I could capitalize properly on them, so I appreciate The Dude leaving easy spares for me to convert to compensate with. True hero for our time stuff on his part there that's probably going to fly under the radar a bit on the blog but is appreciated by me nonetheless.

CoCane

Something that is quite obvious to me...

The same way Porter, Linder & Henderson announced they were staying to give the "U" some positive press & vibes. The large number of UM targets to announce on signing day is being set up for the same purpose. I believe this is by design. Imagine the momentum created by 1/2 dozen top notch recruits choosing the "U" on NSD. All of the analyst will on our dikk, swearing the "U" is coming. ON A NATIONAL TV AUDIENCE.

This is precise planning by Golden & his staff. WATCH

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Something that is quite obvious to me...

The same way Porter, Linder & Henderson announced they were staying to give the "U" some positive press & vibes. The large number of UM targets to announce on signing day is being set up for the same purpose. I believe this is by design. Imagine the momentum created by 1/2 dozen top notch recruits choosing the "U" on NSD. All of the analyst will on our dikk, swearing the "U" is coming. ON A NATIONAL TV AUDIENCE.

This is precise planning by Golden & his staff. WATCH

Posted by: CoCane | February 01, 2013 at 01:12 PM

I'm not gonna set myself up for disappointment but God, i hope you're right CoCane!

orange 'n green in the vein

So we need that instead of having all the returning letter-men just proceeding to kick everybody else's @$$ on the field Coke?

No wonder The Pimp's team is getting most of my attention now these days. Get to celebrate that team by watching commentators and broadcasters argue for and against the crowd rushing the court after beating rivals instead of watching barely eligible voters put on a hat while never having appeared in a college sporting event as being the orange and green letter day of the sport's respective calender.

UMike

SSIB...are U sitting in the same room as UMike and Herbie? At times I would almost swear that U guys all share the same keyboard.

Posted by: 86Cane | February 01, 2013 at 01:02 PM

For a second there I thought you were gonna say OGV's name too lol


You know I love Golden and am normally not negative..just dont like certain things about this story.

CoCane..I do believe the whole national audience thing is a good thing..no way Golden goes on live tv just to get rejected..BUT, I do not believe we get as many as I previously thought

herbieibis

Okay wise men. Who's the last real good football player we got from BTW or Pompano?

LB

I've been away for a while. How many overreactions did I miss?

UMike

I think I might just not get online om NSD until 10 at night lol

UMike

Okay wise men. Who's the last real good football player we got from BTW or Pompano?

Posted by: herbieibis | February 01, 2013 at 01:23 PM

herb...BTW gave us B. Harris..IDK about Pompano, but we did loose out on Patrick Peterson. For me its more about who way may miss out on down the road than who we got recently.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

Okay wise men. Who's the last real good football player we got from BTW or Pompano?

Posted by: herbieibis | February 01, 2013 at 01:23 PM

You said good not great, how about Brandon Harris? He was pre-season ACC all-american and at one point projected to be a 1st rounder in the draft!

86Cane

I've been away for a while. How many overreactions did I miss?

Posted by: LB | February 01, 2013 at 01:23 PM

At last count I had it at 1,736.

But that was just the last two days.

Ohio_Cane

Gus Edwards is on campus for his visit, according to Pete Ariz

86Cane

IDK about Pompano, but we did loose out on Patrick Peterson.

Posted by: UMike | February 01, 2013 at 01:25 PM

LMAO! Yeah, we "lost out" on Peterson?

UMike...Really? REALLY??? U know better than that, don't U?

UMike

Gus Edwards is on campus for his visit, according to Pete Ariz

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 01, 2013 at 01:35 PM

Im going to do my best OGV impersonation...

YAY..a 3-Star FULLBACK from Staten Island is on campus..awe might flip a Syracuse commit..how exciting lol

I do like the size of the kid, but dont know anything about his skil set.

CaneRock

PHUCK! Harris.
And for all intents and matters, that "backyard" talk don't mean $hit!
AFAIC, if a kid from New Jerz (AQM) can meet deadlines...can give you His word on National TV...then hell, why should you allow yourself to get dicked around by some kid from OT.
"Ice" Harris reminds me of Papa Doc from 8 Mile, and Al Golden is Slim Shady.

PS: It's the adults that's screwing things up for these kids and UM, I ain't got no malice in my heart for DK, or for Matthew Thomas should He go elsewhere.

UMike

Well..I guess we didnt LOSE Peterson..maybe I should rephrase to we couldn't afford Peterson lol

Ohio_Cane

I do like the size of the kid, but dont know anything about his skil set.

Posted by: UMike | February 01, 2013 at 01:37 PM
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Think Lonnie Pryor doppleganger

86Cane

Pompano Blanche Ely HS famous players:


Patrick Peterson

Walter McFadden

Corey Simon

Henri Crockett

Tyrone Carter

Jerome McDougle

Zack Crockett

Eddie Jones

James Jones

Clint Session

J.T. Thomas

Al Harris

CaneRock

Okay wise men. Who's the last real good football player we got from BTW or Pompano?

Posted by: herbieibis | February 01, 2013 at 01:23 PM

I don't know about BTW, but I know Tyrone Moss was from Pompano.

86Cane

Ty Moss bio from UM:

http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=205558562

He didn't make the above list because he did not make the NFLU.

CaneRock

I do like the size of the kid, but dont know anything about his skil set.

Posted by: UMike | February 01, 2013 at 01:37 PM

Like you said, He's a big kid, but He doesn't have great vision. And frankly, I don't see Him as an H-Back, I think H-Back is more of a role for Sandland. So yeah, I think FB might be in Edwards's future.

CaneRock

Tyrone Moss was/is the all time leading rusher in Broward County, if that doesn't make Him famous, I don't know what does!

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