NSD 2013: Signed, Sealed and Delivered

Well another exciting and action packed National Signing Day (NSD) has come and gone marking the starting point of another college football season.

The  seemingly endless list of bowl games and the one BCS title game finally ended in early January signaling the end of the 2012 season. But it is always the first Wednesday in February that marks the beginning of a new year filled with high hopes and higher expectations.

After spending all day on the Internet, reading over 900 comments from some of the 18,000 people who visited Canespace today and watching all of ESPN's coverage of the day's happenings, I do not have time to do a detailed analysis or critique of each player in this class that signed a NLI with UM.

But now that another NSD is in the books, I thought we would just take a quick look at today's catch for UM head coach Al Golden and his Miami Hurricanes.  

University of Miami NSD 2013 Class:

Stacy Coley, WR, Oakland Park Northeast High, 6-1, 173

Jermaine Grace, LB, Miramar High, 6-1, 210

Augustus Edwards, FB, Staten Island (N.Y.), 6-2, 230

Sunny Odogwu, OT, Hargrave Military (Va.), 6-8, 311

Beau Sandland, TE, Los Angeles Pierce College, 6-6, 255

Artie Burns, S, Miami Northwestern, 6-0, 183

Alquadin Muhammad, DE, Bosco Prep (N.J.), 6-3, 230

Kevin Olsen, QB, Wayne Hills, N.J., 6-3, 200

Jamal Carter, S, Miami Southridge, 6-1, 190

Standish Dobard, TE, New Orleans Edna Karr, 6-4, 255

Ufomba Kamalu, DT, Butler CC (Kan.), 6-5, 280

Alex Gall, OT, Cincinnati Moeller, 6-6, 280

Hunter Knighton, DT, Princeton Hun School, 6-5, 265

Alex Figueroa, DE, Fork Union (Va.), 6-3, 225

Ray Lewis III, RB, Lake Mary Prep, Fla., 5-9, 190

Devante Bond, Sierra College (Calif.), 6-3, 230

Now, 'Canes fans can spend their time celebrating or brooding over the NSD 2013 results and wait patiently for Spring practice to start sometime in March. Until then we start preparing another college football season and maybe even begin looking ahead to NSD 2014.

And maybe for a few big, mean and nasty defensive tackles to show up?

Comments

[Mcginns Ale House]

I know I have been quite vocal in my defense of the current coaching staff.Even though I have faith in "The Gold Don" I will be all for pulling the plug on Coach Dno if his defense does not show vast iprovement this year.

[86Cane]

NEW BLOG IS UP!

[Mcginns Ale House]

good read
http://www.stateoftheu.com/2013/2/6/3959456/ridiculous-fans-and-antiquated-notions

[TheWordFromTheHerb]

The Herb might bitch & moan, but he luvs Da U. Bama Was my team from the late 6o's until 82 and then it's been nothing but O&G ever since. I want us back where Bama's at. 11 years is a long time to be eating sum humble pie. The NCAA hates us to begin with and I knew they were going to slow bleed us. 3 straight classes have bee altered because of those bumbling morons. We ought to be the ones filing suit, for right of due process. Since they screwed up, if I was Donna, I'd tell them we've served 3 years of this BS, and we ain't giving you another thing, take it or leave it!

[Schweaty Balls]

This could be the coolest goalie mask ever!!

http://daveart.com/mask-gallery/set/72157632694007103/default.aspx

[Mcginns Ale House]

tese

[CaneRock]

He's talking about the dude that stole Manny's I-Phone.

[Sarasota 'cane]

"There's going to be a lot of people who didn't stand with us who are going to be remembered for not standing with us," Golden said.

Think he means Ice Harris? lol

Posted by: UMike | February 07, 2013 at 03:02 PM

He's talking about Sileo and Luke!

Go 'canes!!

[Schweaty Balls]

Literally been searching all day for this SWAG hat and can NOT find it!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 07, 2013 at 01:56 PM
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Harry Rothwell - We have them on order at allCanes 8 wks

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 07, 2013 at 02:00 PM

Allcanes is the best! You ask them for anything Canes related and they will get it for you. I have spent a small fortune in that store over the years.

[Sarasota 'cane]

"Bo knows!!"

Go 'canes!!

[Ohio_Cane]

Wow, did NOT know Randall Hill applied for UM's AD job

[Hassan]

That interview was great, spread that. The local coaches Love Coach Golden and I do not care what Luke says. It is clear they know what is going on, once the NCAA is over soon we will dominate.

[UMike]

Wow, I leave for a few hours and this is what happens?

Posted by: 86Cane | February 07, 2013 at 03:03 PM

I want it noted that I had no part in it lol

[86Cane]

Wow, I leave for a few hours and this is what happens?

[UMike]

"There's going to be a lot of people who didn't stand with us who are going to be remembered for not standing with us," Golden said.

Think he means Ice Harris? lol

[UMike]

CORAL GABLES, Fla. (AP) -- So far in Al Golden's tenure, Miami's football program has voluntarily forfeited the right to appear in two bowl games, along with one trip to the Atlantic Coast Conference championship game, up to 30 practices and an undisclosed number of scholarships in response to an unbelievably long NCAA investigation.

The Hurricanes' coach sounds like he's had enough.

Read more: http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/sports/21009793711974/golden-miami-has-already-paid-stiff-penalties/#ixzz2KFFoyqJp

[UMike]

Jeff Stoutland is Chip Kelly's new OL coach

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 07, 2013 at 02:53 PM

Good move..NCAA sanctions cant touch you in the NFL

[Ohio_Cane]

Jeff Stoutland is Chip Kelly's new OL coach

[CGNC]

TJL - somebody needs to do that to Sileo

[Hassan]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/sports/major-league-baseball-sees-university-of-miami-as-a-hub-for-performance-enhancing-drugs.xml

Bad Journalism. There is no ties, drugs are all over sports but one of our coaches get 400 bucks worth of some stuff to enhance himself is not going to make him a supplier to the MLB, the article says over 100 of our players have played in the MLB but of course only a couple have tested for drugs, one was exonerated. A-Rod never played for us.

[TJL]

The Coach Bitch slapped Sileo on the radio

[TJL]

anyone hear the interview today on WQAM with Sileo and Miami Edison's Coach? The coach basically told Sileo he is full of it and the U is all over the inner city. The reason they are not getting the kids is because of Sanctions and the other schools are still screaming the U is getting the death penalty

http://wqam.com/interviews

[TheWordFromTheHerb]

Must be a pretty boring day if we are having a Randy Shannon flashback day. Dude was not head coach material. Black, white, red or yellow, it doesn't matter the skin color. As a coordinator he was goood. Dude hated to blitz and we yell at DENO to blitz constantly but there is and was a hugh difference in the front 7 Shannon had to work with, compared to DENO's group. When were winning we didn't constantly have top ranking classes, we just had more speed and better athletes, that is until the others started following suit and now they have one-upped us by having the speed, size and athletic talent. We had problems in the mid 2000's finding Qb's & Wr's and now we have an over abundance of both and now it's the Lb's & DT's that suffer and really the whole defensive side where the numbers are off plus quality to boot.
To bad we don't have Momma Collins recruiting for us, she's a bear for nerves.
Somebody was talking about Jabboney Harris & Robert Marve, in the Herb's most humble opinion, they both were the Anti-Cane, INT. Throwing Machines!
Next topic.

[Ohio_Cane]

"pembroke lakes mall got them"

If only I could fly down to Pembroke to buy one...

[CaneRock]

Coley probably had that hat customized.

[Ohio_Cane]

Literally been searching all day for this SWAG hat and can NOT find it!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 07, 2013 at 01:56 PM
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Harry Rothwell - We have them on order at allCanes 8 wks

[Ohio_Cane]

Literally been searching all day for this SWAG hat and can NOT find it!

[UMike]

Stacy Coley could be my new favorite player. The dude had a hat that said "swag" on it his signing. If thats not Cane type of guy I do not know what is.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 01:20 PM

I also like how he said "I will be spending the next 3 years" lol

[laquinton]

bring back coach soldinger !!

welp looks like that may happen

[Sarasota 'cane]

UM has a basketball team? Who knew?

Go 'canes!!

[HVC]

But back to the Canes. There is only one known and that it's ALL on the Defense next year. Our season is all on them.

[HVC]

Yep CaneRock understood. It worked out for all the parties involved. Apparently the kid was jumping on top of the table in his advocacy.

[Hassan]

Good Analysis Vfb Cane, I concur your sentiments.

Chud will not get Mario to move to Ohio to be a position coach. Good Luck to T Rich, I have met him many occasions, he is a good RB coach but was not the most personable person to meet. I am close to a few players recruited by the U that told me in no uncertain terms that Coach D is "an A**hole, A liar, and a bad coach, and that is why none of my friends wants to come play for him"

This young man in particular is a 4 star recruit played at one of the most prominent schools in SFLA and personally knows many of the top players in sfla. He also knows several current Canes well. Take this for what it is worth, but this young man is a great kid and if HE can say this I can only imagine what other kids feel. Our Achilles heel on and off the field appear to be one and the same, our D Coordinator.

[Schweaty Balls]

Schweaty, I'm still searching for that hat online to buy! LOVE THAT!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 07, 2013 at 01:21 PM

Ohio, didn't I read somewhere that the coaches felt he was a Miami type of guy based upon his attitude and the way he carried himself.

[CaneRock]

Posted by: HVC | February 07, 2013 at 01:16 PM

I believe you.

[HVC]

There is some cursing but it's a good point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5JqQLqqTc

[Ohio_Cane]

Schweaty, I'm still searching for that hat online to buy! LOVE THAT!

[Schweaty Balls]

Stacy Coley could be my new favorite player. The dude had a hat that said "swag" on it his signing. If thats not Cane type of guy I do not know what is.

[HVC]

Canerock. I don't know if you are saying the story is a lie, you may not be but it's the truth. You don't know me and I am not inclined to provide all of the connections in such a public forum to verify the events but sometimes it's how life works out.

It's no different than a personal recommendation from someone of influence who is trusted already inside a potential place of employment vouching for you vs some resume you send to a careerbuilder etc. But that is the real deal of what happened with Sumlin. He may not even know it because it would have been above his head but it's what happened.

As Carl Sagan and Gin Rummy said " Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

[thirstybuzzardcane]

Schwartz center is getting close to being done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhig2uRaQgE

[Ohio_Cane]

Apparently, his dad is there with him to sign his NLI.

Honestly, just glad the kid can end this mess finally.

[VA Cane]

amazing HVC, nice touch of class my friend. He is something else...I really like the way he does things, coaches.....but I really like his persona and the way he carries himself. He is a confident man....he is proud and outgoing....he does not make excuses he find solutions....good coaching philosophy...to teach your players....great life philosophy to teach to all thosae around you. Thanks for that story HVC

[LB]

"Gorten - So Alex Collins' mom hired attorney 2 "represent the family's interests" after what went down yesterday, per release..."

This is insane.

[WWIN]

Thanks Chris freet that news was exactly what we were looking for!!!! Haven't had any news like that since Linder, SH77, and Porter announced they were staying. Awesome

[VfB_Cane]

In other news, NSD has come and gone ...

Some Cane fans came away with the impression that FSU and UF gor far more talent than we did. Really?

I did a little number crunching, based on three recruiting sites, and tried to eliminate the size factor for better comparison.

Rivals
Overall ranking: UF #4, FSU #9, UM #44
Ranking based on average grade:
UF 3.67 (#7),FSU 3.57 (#10), UM Avg. 3.40 (#12)

Scout:
Overall ranking: UF #8, FSU #16, UM #28
Ranking based on average grade:
UF 3.63 (#8), FSU 3.41 (#13), UM 3.29 (#18)

247:
Overall ranking: UF #4, FSU #8, UM #17
Ranking based on average grade:
UF 91.21 (#4), FSU 89.19 (#9), UM 88.80 (#12)

My take:
(1) Eliminating the size factor, UF's signing class was top 5-10, FSU top 10-15, UM top 15-20.
(2) Given that grading recruits is an inexact sciece at best, the difference between UM's class and what FSU got is negligible (basically, it's one 5* signing with us instead of going to Tallyville)
(3) UF is the last of the Florida schools to win a NC and is in the SEC. In today's recruiting world, this will work wonders for you (not necssarily on the field - we'll find out).
(4) No need to hit the panic button. While Golden&Co. didn't set the world on fire yesterday, the talent gap between FSU und us is small enough so that in can be made up by proper talent development. Neither FSU nor UM have excelled in that area for quite some time now.

[VA Cane]

Please we all have tendencies to see it our way our races way....we do not mean to but we forget how we feel about each other and fall back on old habits and feelings that may be learned behavior but are certainly outdated. I am guilty; I said things that were racial on here that were wrong, embarrased me and showed that I can be stupid and intolerant due to selfish feelings. We got to pull together folks, its going to work out. I care about each of you regardless of race. I do not want to know your race, I do know you are Canes therefore my family!!!

Hi Canesteeler bet you are loving your hockey!!! Hope your heart is good and family doing well!!!

[CaneRock]

True story.

Posted by: HVC | February 07, 2013 at 01:04 PM

...And a good story. I like FACTS!

[UMike]

The mother of South Plantation High running back Alex Collins has hired an attorney with the Cochran firm to represent the family "while she contemplates on signing the NCAA's Letter of Intent" that will decide where her son plays football in college.

The firm, founded by O.J. Simpson lawyer Johnnie L. Cochran, made the announcement Thursday.

Andrea McDonald refused Wednesday to go along with her son's choice of the University of Arkansas, preferring that he attend the University of Miami.

[thirstybuzzardcane]

Look, all I am saying here is that Shannon played and recruited a certain type of player. Someone labeled it as favoring MNW or BTW kids, I call it something else. If you favor someone for anything over someone who may be more qualified, in a job or in this case playing football, that is not right in any way, shape or form. You can bury your head in the sand and say he was trying to get poor Miami kids to be successful and this and that, but I don't care about that when it comes to Miami football and any person would say the same thing. What I care about is bringing in the best players possible to win, period, and I do not believe Shannon did that. He felt he had an obligation to the Community of Miami and not necessarily to University of Miami. When you have a guy who may recruit a local Miami kid who may not have had the best life over a better player from Ohio, California or somewhere else I get pissed b/c that not only hurts the team, it hurts the program. And truh be told, that kind of thinking got Shannon fired, among a whole host of others.

I am not a racist, far from it, but I believe Shannon had other agendas other than winning football games at the University of Miami.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Agree 100%

[HVC]

Randy is not racist. Just doesn't always express himself well. Let's stop that label and leave it for people who deserve it. There also were a lot people who criticized Randy for being an Uncle Tom behind closed doors in the community which he also isn't.

To your point VA. I have a story about Sumlin. Think of the university that gave him his first head coaching job. He got his chance because of a kid who had an opportunity to watch Sumlin up close. Not as an athlete but picture a gatekeeper,student worker frequently around the team. The school that hired him was going with someone else. The AD had already made the decision, but the student at the time, knew a person of "influence" at the school who asked him for the truth on Sumlin in light of hiring considerations, and raved about how good Sumlin was. Picture youthful exuberance towards a cause, raved in the strongest terms possible. AD is told to interview Sumlin again, AD says we got a guy. Person of influence says not yet you don't. Sumlin gets hired. You never know who people at the bottom of the totem pole know. Connections still play a huge part in life. He may have gotten a chance somewhere else over time but it wouldn't have been his first HC gig. A lot of schools passed on him that year for "whatever" reason. Only one school was willing to take a chance on him.

True story.

[Canesteeler]

Why even discuss race?

[Ohio_Cane]

Ok, folks... Let's drop this convo and move on to a new one, huh?

Starting to get personal, and it's pointless at that.

Let's let it go.

[Canesteeler]

Rumor is Cristobal to the Browns. AG it is time to bring Don Solinger back to the U.

[UMike]

Collins mom knows his coach has something up his sleeve and had an agenda.

[Ohio_Cane]

Chris Freet - BIG STORY: Shane Larkin just became 1st @CanesHoops player in history to be named Cousy Award finalist: http://gocan.es/X9HMuH

[AfriCane]

I am not a racist, far from it, but I believe Shannon had other agendas other than winning football games at the University of Miami.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:47 PM

No u r not a racist. U r a self contradicting, inarticulate moron and blundering idiotic 'has been.'

[orange 'n green in the vein]

"Who do you think gets more local kids to attend?

Posted by: Lou of M | February 07, 2013 at 12:47 PM"

Camps or attend school to play football there? Because apparently telling top local players they have to show up to your camp for an offer to be extended just sends them somewhere else if you look at the results this year.

[CaneRock]

The news is they found Mandingos phone

Posted by: TJL | February 07, 2013 at 12:51 PM

They already found it, it's givin' it back that's the problem. LMAO!

[CaneRock]

I am not a racist, far from it, but I believe Shannon had other agendas other than winning football games at the University of Miami.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:47 PM

That ain't no belief, that's a COSPIRACY THEORY! LMAO! Like my boy Marlo Stansfield from The Wire said..."You only want it one way"...THE EASY WAY! L...M...A...OFFFFF!

[Ohio_Cane]

Raize, no.

[raizecane]

Collins is suppose to send his LOI to Arkansas at 1:00. Is that the big news???

[Ohio_Cane]

Terry Richardson to the Jaguars - http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/07/reports-miami-loses-another-coach-to-nfl/

[TJL]

Chris Freet - Anyone want more POSITIVE #Canes news? Big story coming at 1 pm.

The news is they found Mandingos phone

[TJL]

.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2013/02/mike-james-and-brandon-mcgee-invited-to-nfl-combine-in-indianapolis.html

[Schweaty Balls]

Sweaty balls, you are normally sensible on most stuff, whether I agree with you or not, but you've crossed he line here

Shannon may have failed as a head coach, but he was never a racist, or said or did anything racist, and it's wrong of you to go there, give me some real examples of his racism, because I followed him closely, and I never saw it.

Unless you're one of those people that think being a proud black man that tries to set an example for young black men is being racist.

Posted by: Canesfan_1 | February 07, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Look, all I am saying here is that Shannon played and recruited a certain type of player. Someone labeled it as favoring MNW or BTW kids, I call it something else. If you favor someone for anything over someone who may be more qualified, in a job or in this case playing football, that is not right in any way, shape or form. You can bury your head in the sand and say he was trying to get poor Miami kids to be successful and this and that, but I don't care about that when it comes to Miami football and any person would say the same thing. What I care about is bringing in the best players possible to win, period, and I do not believe Shannon did that. He felt he had an obligation to the Community of Miami and not necessarily to University of Miami. When you have a guy who may recruit a local Miami kid who may not have had the best life over a better player from Ohio, California or somewhere else I get pissed b/c that not only hurts the team, it hurts the program. And truh be told, that kind of thinking got Shannon fired, among a whole host of others.

I am not a racist, far from it, but I believe Shannon had other agendas other than winning football games at the University of Miami.

[Lou of M]

I back my General Golden like I backed Randy when he was coaching like garbage. The diffrence is Golden coaches a lot better than Randy will ever. I trust Goldens recruiting process. Randy hosted camps for near $400 while Goldens are $60. Who do you think gets more local kids to attend?

[CaneRock]

More Jake Gaither:

In Jake Gaither's (career record = 204-36-4) career - he AVERAGED 55 points per game, and his opponents averaged 3. He used to pass out copies of his offense to EVERYONE! (EVEN HIS OPPONENTS!) because he said: "no offense is sound if it doesn't work vs. teams that KNOW!!! the details about it"!

[Ohio_Cane]

86, THE EAGLE HAS LANDED!

THANK U!

[CaneRock]

Last I checked you get hired on qualifications, but I guess in that other world you live in apparently thats not the case.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:23 PM

"Qualifications"? Really? You ever heard of Jake Gaither,IMO, the greatest HC, and maybe the greatest offensive mind to come out of the South:

Jake Gaither had a simple coaching philosophy, one which has become the most-quoted recruiting theory in football. He wanted his players "mo-bile, a-gile and hos-tile". He found enough players of that caliber, and taught them well enough, that he will never be forgotten whenever the conversation settles upon the names of football's great coaches. Gaither was an All-Conference end at Knoxville College. He coached at the academy level, Henderson Institute and St. Paul's, 1927-36. He moved to Florida A&M as assistant coach in 1937 and was Florida A&M head coach 1945-69. His 25- year record was 203-36-4, a percentage of .844. His teams won their conference 18 times and were black college national champions six times. His name was Alonzo Gaither; everybody called him Jake. He had a bachelor's degree from Knoxville, 1927, and master's from Ohio State, 1937. In 1963 he wrote a book, "The Split Line T." Gaither was a member of the President's Council on Physical Fitness. In 1975 he was elected to the College Football Hall of Fame, received a Distinguished American Award from the Walter Camp Foundation, and received the A.A. Stagg Award from the American Football Coaches Association. The state of Florida produced a film "Coach and Teacher" portraying him as part of its "Great Floridian" series. In Tallahassee, a street, a park, a golf course, and a gymnasium were named for him. In a 10-year streak 1953-62, his teams went 87-7-1. He was a champion debater in college and a dynamic speaker afterward. Gaither was born April 11, 1903, in Dayton, Tennessee. He died February 18, 1994, at age 90.

[CoCane]

Because of the ugly racist history of this society. Plus the current lingering racism, that isn't as bad as it once was but isn't non existant as we pretend. Most black people still don't trust white people. Especially rich ones

[orange 'n green in the vein]

Wow, missing on areas of need has turned this blog into a a game of who hates others skin color more? WTF?

So you can't want a coach who won more games on a percentage basis with a different melanin content in his skin than another because then you're a racist? WTF again?

Sumlin was in the mix when Golden was hired. Special K liked that book in orange and green instead of cream and purple from a guy who had never beat a lesser conference foe with a winning league record better though rather than hire a respected head coach who had tore it up in a lesser conference and coached the all time NCAA passing yardage leader. Whether skin tone had anything to do with that you'll have to ask that dumb@$$ personally though.

[Ohio_Cane]

^^^^^

Lt. Philip Nolan ‏@TheStateOfTheU

This Collins stuff just gets weirder. Either his mom is legit nuts, or she sees what is happening and is trying to fight it.

[Ohio_Cane]

Oh my...

Gorten - So Alex Collins' mom hired attorney 2 "represent the family's interests" after what went down yesterday, per release...

[CaneRock]

Yes, I can.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:24 PM

But you didn't.

[j.w.]

UMike...A day late and a dime short, literally.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Agree wit hot hof you if that's the news. Unfortunately the news we want isn't usually what we get. Please make it happen this time. . .

[Canesfan_1]

Sweaty balls, you are normally sensible on most stuff, whether I agree with you or not, but you've crossed he line here

Shannon may have failed as a head coach, but he was never a racist, or said or did anything racist, and it's wrong of you to go there, give me some real examples of his racism, because I followed him closely, and I never saw it.

Unless you're one of those people that think being a proud black man that tries to set an example for young black men is being racist.

[thirstybuzzardcane]

Enough with race talk........can't wait for the big news!!!

[Schweaty Balls]

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:13 PM

No you can't.

Posted by: CaneRock | February 07, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Yes, I can.

[thirstybuzzardcane]

I'm just saying blacks favor there race more!

[Schweaty Balls]

Then make a list of all of the racist AD's that continue to vastly under hire black head coaches in major college football.

Posted by: CoCone | February 07, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Yep thats it, the AD's are racist for the under hiring of black head coaches. Typical response. Please son! Last I checked you get hired on qualifications, but I guess in that other world you live in apparently thats not the case.

[thirstybuzzardcane]

I guess race had nothing to do with the election either.....why is it blacks turned out in records? Now your going to say I'm racist for saying this...I'm far from it!

[CaneRock]

I can

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:13 PM

No you can't.

[VA Cane]

I could not agree more CR.Yes Randy was a Cane, from Miami, knew coaches black and white and could have really built the fence....hell with his advantage he could have built a steel cage!!!! But he chose not to....he was not a good HC....for different reasons I mentioned. Ultimately, he did not have HC skills to go along with his insider presence and inroads!!!!

I think it would have been ideal to leave Shannon as the DC, he had good defenses. Sumlin was at Oklahoma when RS was hired; he was readily available....dont think we even knocked. He was the OC there his last 2 years....averaged 44 PPG in 07. So he was available, but as usual, with Clappy and Randy they made bad hires. Sumlin is a great cat; I met him at a clinic one year, a friend from my hometown coaches hoops and has a friend who is at A&M....Mike says his friend is crazy over KS...as are the students players and school. ...the guy has class charisma....you know he can recruit....and he would rope em in in SoF. How did we miss him? He is a dynamic young educated experienced outgoing guy....and just happens to be black!!!! I mean if you wanted a black coach, which is great by me....he was the guy to get. Did not do bad in first year at A&M either Huh?

Like Phil Collins said "Oh Oh I missed again, Oh Oh Oh Oh, I believe I missed again"!!! He would have been a good get folks....and I am not knocking AG or anyone else, I just think KS was a real winner!!!!

[Ohio_Cane]

Guessing big news is something about Schwartz Center or something along those lines.

[CoCone]

You must be racist. Colin McCarthy did fine under him. Shannon wasn't a good coach. He was biased towards Northwestern & Booker T, that happens to be majority black schools. Why didn't he hire an all black staff? That would be the racist thing to do. Before you make your Shannon's a racist list. Make a list of the major colleges that have racist pedigrees. Then make a list of all of the racist AD's that continue to vastly under hire black head coaches in major college football. Why aren't the HBCU's more represented in major football? Probably because the elite black players would go to their alma maters, win championships, give the schools big $, put their resources on the same level as the blue bloods & give education in the ghetto a revolutionary level playing field. Don't get me started boy...

[Schweaty Balls]

Yeah, you're going to leave it at that because you can't itemize why Shannon is a "racist", you have no proof. Heck, from listening to the local HS coaches talk about Shannon alienating them, and their players, some of it sounded like they were calling RS an "Uncle Tom". I can got there if I want to, but I CAN'T, because I have NO PROOF! that they actually, and literally called Him an "Uncle Tom". Basically what I'm saying is, be VERY! careful when you hurl the racist label at somebody, that's a VERY! HEAVY and POTENT term.

Posted by: CaneRock | February 07, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I can, its so completely obvious, but people like yourself could not take someone criticising a black person for being a racist.

[CaneRock]

For the sake of going down a bad road, I think I am going to leave it at that.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Yeah, you're going to leave it at that because you can't itemize why Shannon is a "racist", you have no proof. Heck, from listening to the local HS coaches talk about Shannon alienating them, and their players, some of it sounded like they were calling RS an "Uncle Tom". I can got there if I want to, but I CAN'T, because I have NO PROOF! that they actually, and literally called Him an "Uncle Tom". Basically what I'm saying is, be VERY! careful when you hurl the racist label at somebody, that's a VERY! HEAVY and POTENT term.

[UMike]

Schweaty..you aint lying. And IF that is the case, I am 100% sure that is how the NCAA wanted it. One last jab in the face before we end it.

[UpNorthCane27]

Im going w/ the Edge as new rb coach lol...ill keep my hopes up

[Schweaty Balls]

UMike...A day late and a dime short, literally.

[UMike]

Nope..Um and NCAA reached a deal..OR we got our LOA

[UpNorthCane27]

Edgerrin james new Rb coach......

and/or

Alex Collins to the U

[Schweaty Balls]

YES!

Posted by: CaneRock | February 07, 2013 at 11:46 AM

The way America is today, people couldn't take it for calling a spade a spade. For the sake of going down a bad road, I think I am going to leave it at that.

[Ohio_Cane]

Chris Freet - Anyone want more POSITIVE #Canes news? Big story coming at 1 pm.

I can only hope this is what I think it is...

[CaneRock]

You want me to make a list

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 11:41 AM

YES!

[Schweaty Balls]

Lol! At the people that said Shannon favored Harris over Marve because Harris was black. Ignorant mutha fukkaz! Marve is black. Very light skinned because he's mixed but his facial features, thick lips & wide nose is obvious. Shannon favored Harris because he was from Northwestern. Tighten up yall. When you label a black person racist, make sure your shyt is together or don't go there. PERIOD

Posted by: CoCane | February 07, 2013 at 11:26 AM

You want me to make a list, I can put one together a mile long. Shannone was racist! PERIOD!

[UMike]

Robert Marve anyone? That guy was better than Jacrappy Harris but Harris had one thing going for him over Marve and in Shannon's eyes that trumped everything else.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 10:08 AM

SB, I disagree, Marve was bi-racial. And Marve didn't amount to much of a QB at Purdue.

Posted by: CaneRock | February 07, 2013 at 11:29 AM

True..BUT IMO..Harris shouldnt have started as a freshman and their shouldnt of been a 2 qb system.

[CaneRock]

LOOK!, as a black man, I'm glad the we we were the first major CFB team in Florida to hire a black coach. BUT!, in the end, I think we hired the WRONG! black coach. Wasn't Kevin Sumlin available at the time we hired Shannon.

Sumlin is a HELLUVA! HC, I'm surprised the NFL hasn't knocked at His door yet.

[CaneRock]

Robert Marve anyone? That guy was better than Jacrappy Harris but Harris had one thing going for him over Marve and in Shannon's eyes that trumped everything else.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 10:08 AM

SB, I disagree, Marve was bi-racial. And Marve didn't amount to much of a QB at Purdue.

[CoCane]

Lol! At the people that said Shannon favored Harris over Marve because Harris was black. Ignorant mutha fukkaz! Marve is black. Very light skinned because he's mixed but his facial features, thick lips & wide nose is obvious. Shannon favored Harris because he was from Northwestern. Tighten up yall. When you label a black person racist, make sure your shyt is together or don't go there. PERIOD