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February 06, 2013

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360Cane

I am starting to believe universities are simply victims to these idiots. Why should they be punished? It's going to be great when the NCAA starts going after individuals.

Think about it. We're going through all this and for what? Our players doing what any other college student is ALLOWED to do?

And now this PED thing. This is more of a "damnit" than it is a surprise. We are or were a farm for the MLB and when it's the steroid era, well...

Oh, nevermind. It's all about the $$$, has always been about the $$$ and continues to be all about the $$$. And if we can get a university that is a pipeline to the MLB to feed these kids PEDs, we're going to have an excellent product on the field. Hee hee!

Believe it or not, there is good in this world.

thirstybuzzardcane

All Luke wants is a black head coach....the guy is the biggest racist out there!!!!

Schweaty Balls

All Luke wants is a black head coach....the guy is the biggest racist out there!!!!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | February 07, 2013 at 09:44 AM

Exactly. It can be argued too that Shannon was just as big of a racist while he was here. Just look at his recruiting and who he brought in during those years.

usagainsttheworld

You all probably wont get this but its okay-- black people can't be racist. Can be many other things but not racist.

Schweaty Balls

You all probably wont get this but its okay-- black people can't be racist. Can be many other things but not racist.

Posted by: usagainsttheworld | February 07, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Ah, the old double standard.

UMike

whats crazy, is Luke was our biggest fan under all white coaches lol..but you have to remember, Shannon almost soley recruited MWN and BTW as far as Dade goes and imo he always put the Dade kids first while others easily found their way into the doghouse

Schweaty Balls

whats crazy, is Luke was our biggest fan under all white coaches lol..but you have to remember, Shannon almost soley recruited MWN and BTW as far as Dade goes and imo he always put the Dade kids first while others easily found their way into the doghouse

Posted by: UMike | February 07, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Robert Marve anyone? That guy was better than Jacrappy Harris but Harris had one thing going for him over Marve and in Shannon's eyes that trumped everything else.

UMike

Schweaty, that would be my main example. I will not say it was because Harris was black, but I do think he gave Miami kids first dibs lol

UMike

And of course some Miami guys made to his doghouse, Street is a perfect example. I wonder if he promised all the MWN 08 class that they would start..he certainly did Harris lol

Ohio_Cane

86, I went on a little rant on twitter. Feel free to delete if U want. Lol

Nothing bad, just a rant about Golden's recruiting and how he has to defend himself. Also about how some want Shannon back as HC

Schweaty Balls

UMike...I say it was both at play. But all things being equal, Harris would get the nod over Marve b/c he was black is my point.

www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000117339359

I jus heard JoeRose w/ Golden and Shannon.....I think both guys did a good job of interviewing AND Shannon goes into the Shapiro thing and basically calld dude a scumbag off first meeting and said he wantd no parts of dude.....Golden is a G...he held his ground and he stompd on all the crap ppl are laying down CALM DOWN there is still a Storm BREWING.....now back to 12%ing

RCCF12%

UMike

Next year with no limitations (hopefully), and more access to kids, and more access early, Golden and staff will clean up...

Parent: W"hat about the sanctions all these other coaches are telling me about?"

Golden: "Ma'am, that is past us now and it will not effect your son. He will play in a bowl game each of his 4 years here and we will constantly be on television since we draw the best ratings. Scouts will still gather at our pro day every year. We only have less scholarships available, but this will not effect your son since we have a scholarship with his name on it.

Parent: "What happened with that boy from BTW, I heard some players and coaches say they couldn't trust Miami's coaches."

Golden: "Ma'am, I am glad you asked, now you can hear the truth. Truth is we wanted Mr. Kirkland and he held a full scholarship offer from us for over a year. He mad visits to our campus and we meet with him and his family numerous times. So we proved we wanted Mr. Kirkland, but in the end it appeared he did not want to come to Miami, which is his right, but we were in a position where we needed to know. Again, not because we did not want the young man, but because we had only a couple days to signing day. We pulled his offer only after giving him every opportunity to commit, even silently like Mr. Coley did, but he choose not to. And ma'am, we cannot let one kid hold up are hold class, i'm sure you understand.

Parent: "We live in a rough area, I had hoped my boy would get away from all this violence and craziness. Miami is one of the roughest cities in the Country and I don't know how I feel about him staying home.

Golden: "I agree the City of Miami is a rough area, and we want to help you help your son get out. Coral Gables is NOT Miami, it just happens to be part of Miami-Dade County. Coral Gables might as well be 1,000 miles away from here it is so different. One visit to the campus and you will see yourself. And we do not have a track record of students getting into trouble with the law like other programs within the State. Just come see the campus for yourself.

Parent: "I heard you don't want Miami kids, that you would rather have kids from New Jersey and up North."

Golden: "Ma'am, that is simply not true. I would like to get every talented kid in Miami, but we cannot help it if the kid does not have the grades or simply does not want to come to Miami. We want kids that want to be Canes and I think your son wants to be. To be proud of a tradition unlike any other. It should be noted that we are the #1 rated school in Florida for academics, which is something we take great pride in, but it also means some kids we would love to have simply can't qualify."

Parent: "When can we visit campus"

VA Cane

Luke was not even a good rapper....there is some good rap, his was just bad and degrading to women IMO. Does he really know a thing about football? Hes just bitter and longing for the day.Well those Days are gone.....however Carpe Diem!!

We got to sieze the day. We may have botched a couple recruits, I dont know...but if these kids want to play for UM, they had a shot. These kids really dont know UM....I mean they were 7 or 8 when we were really good....they were young kids and their knowledge is from their elders at Christmas dinner and New Years parties "Yea remember The U when they crushed Nebraska...Vilmas hit or remember when we beat Nebraska in the OB for our first title or even We Was Robbed vs OSU (matter of opinion I guess).

They could come here easily...if they got the grades, nothing holds them back. They got bad recruiting juju (Death Penalty I can hear Urban Fat Boy Muschamp and Dumdo whispering), the presence of the NCAA cloud from media, and the decline of the U. Hell Alabama, FSU, Ohio S., Michigan, Oregon, USC, Georgia draw bigger crowds to their spring game that we do in the season. Kid want the spolight and have egos. They want to wear all that puke Oregon crap, be on tv, be on gameday.....anything but go to class and fly right. Here you go to do the work in school....to hard for many. We must push ahead guys, we will get it going this year, and hopefully the clouds stop being black and the silver starts to show. We can play O....we got to stop people!!!!

Ohio_Cane

Zo Highsmith going off defending Golden on twitter.

LOVING THIS!

Ohio_Cane

^^ 86, we now follow Zo. LOL

UMike

Alonzo Highsmith ‏@alonzohighsmith
All for local kids but if they don't want to come to Miami what the hell you suppose to do?

Ohio_Cane

Alonzo Highsmith ‏@alonzohighsmith
All for local kids but if they don't want to come to Miami what the hell you suppose to do?

Posted by: UMike | February 07, 2013 at 10:45 AM
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Isn't it funny when facts interrupt a "story"? LOL

Pre83

U have to be from Trailerhassee or Jortsville to not understand that considering the obstacles the U and AG had/have to overcome this recruiting cycle, this was a VERY solid class!

As someone posted earlier, if it is true that Thomas was never going to the U and AG & Co figured it out, perhaps he was the genius after all in seeing the writing on the wall.

He knows what his obstacles are to recruiting and that if he is to succeed on the field, he HAS TO win the recruiting battle in the Bottom!

So what does he do? He hires Coley away from FSU. It was a long shot that the players Coley recruited would follow him from FSU to the U just days from NSD, but it was set up for 2014 which is an even more critical year for recruiting So. FL.

As well, while Dumbo believes he is going to stick it to the U having Thomas play AG & Co, AG turns around and does one better in the Coley hire.

I could be wrong, but I just didn't see Collins being the back Duke is. If he wants to leave for Bielema, oh well. We'll see how the U's backs stack up against AC soon enough.

VA Cane

Randy is bitter he had a shot and could not deliver the goods, for whatever reason. I saw him becoming more and more pessimistic, narrow minded and angry. I think he was very good with Defense, but he lacks people skills to motivate or coach people....both players and coaches have to be coached.

I dont care if a coach is black or white or purple....I want a guy who can win and wants to win....Kevin sumlin at A and M seems to have a grip on what it takes he pretty impressive. Randys problem was not that he was black, he was a knothead. He ran off alums, he closed doors, he sulked, he had pets.....and he was a Cane and from the area.....he should have had talent begging him to play, and if didnt have the personality of a footstool he would have.

Man I just want to win; 7-5 is ok if you like average. We got a ways to go, but I still think we are going there.....been slow footing with all the obstacles. Hopefully we push forward and get better; I am not signing on to 12-0 just yet, but hell its a goal.

The Dude

Posted by: VA Cane | February 07, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Great post.

CoCane

Lol! At the people that said Shannon favored Harris over Marve because Harris was black. Ignorant mutha fukkaz! Marve is black. Very light skinned because he's mixed but his facial features, thick lips & wide nose is obvious. Shannon favored Harris because he was from Northwestern. Tighten up yall. When you label a black person racist, make sure your shyt is together or don't go there. PERIOD

CaneRock

Robert Marve anyone? That guy was better than Jacrappy Harris but Harris had one thing going for him over Marve and in Shannon's eyes that trumped everything else.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 10:08 AM

SB, I disagree, Marve was bi-racial. And Marve didn't amount to much of a QB at Purdue.

CaneRock

LOOK!, as a black man, I'm glad the we we were the first major CFB team in Florida to hire a black coach. BUT!, in the end, I think we hired the WRONG! black coach. Wasn't Kevin Sumlin available at the time we hired Shannon.

Sumlin is a HELLUVA! HC, I'm surprised the NFL hasn't knocked at His door yet.

UMike

Robert Marve anyone? That guy was better than Jacrappy Harris but Harris had one thing going for him over Marve and in Shannon's eyes that trumped everything else.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 10:08 AM

SB, I disagree, Marve was bi-racial. And Marve didn't amount to much of a QB at Purdue.

Posted by: CaneRock | February 07, 2013 at 11:29 AM

True..BUT IMO..Harris shouldnt have started as a freshman and their shouldnt of been a 2 qb system.

Schweaty Balls

Lol! At the people that said Shannon favored Harris over Marve because Harris was black. Ignorant mutha fukkaz! Marve is black. Very light skinned because he's mixed but his facial features, thick lips & wide nose is obvious. Shannon favored Harris because he was from Northwestern. Tighten up yall. When you label a black person racist, make sure your shyt is together or don't go there. PERIOD

Posted by: CoCane | February 07, 2013 at 11:26 AM

You want me to make a list, I can put one together a mile long. Shannone was racist! PERIOD!

CaneRock

You want me to make a list

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 11:41 AM

YES!

Ohio_Cane

Chris Freet - Anyone want more POSITIVE #Canes news? Big story coming at 1 pm.

I can only hope this is what I think it is...

Schweaty Balls

YES!

Posted by: CaneRock | February 07, 2013 at 11:46 AM

The way America is today, people couldn't take it for calling a spade a spade. For the sake of going down a bad road, I think I am going to leave it at that.

UpNorthCane27

Edgerrin james new Rb coach......

and/or

Alex Collins to the U

UMike

Nope..Um and NCAA reached a deal..OR we got our LOA

Schweaty Balls

UMike...A day late and a dime short, literally.

UpNorthCane27

Im going w/ the Edge as new rb coach lol...ill keep my hopes up

UMike

Schweaty..you aint lying. And IF that is the case, I am 100% sure that is how the NCAA wanted it. One last jab in the face before we end it.

CaneRock

For the sake of going down a bad road, I think I am going to leave it at that.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Yeah, you're going to leave it at that because you can't itemize why Shannon is a "racist", you have no proof. Heck, from listening to the local HS coaches talk about Shannon alienating them, and their players, some of it sounded like they were calling RS an "Uncle Tom". I can got there if I want to, but I CAN'T, because I have NO PROOF! that they actually, and literally called Him an "Uncle Tom". Basically what I'm saying is, be VERY! careful when you hurl the racist label at somebody, that's a VERY! HEAVY and POTENT term.

Schweaty Balls

Yeah, you're going to leave it at that because you can't itemize why Shannon is a "racist", you have no proof. Heck, from listening to the local HS coaches talk about Shannon alienating them, and their players, some of it sounded like they were calling RS an "Uncle Tom". I can got there if I want to, but I CAN'T, because I have NO PROOF! that they actually, and literally called Him an "Uncle Tom". Basically what I'm saying is, be VERY! careful when you hurl the racist label at somebody, that's a VERY! HEAVY and POTENT term.

Posted by: CaneRock | February 07, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I can, its so completely obvious, but people like yourself could not take someone criticising a black person for being a racist.

CoCone

You must be racist. Colin McCarthy did fine under him. Shannon wasn't a good coach. He was biased towards Northwestern & Booker T, that happens to be majority black schools. Why didn't he hire an all black staff? That would be the racist thing to do. Before you make your Shannon's a racist list. Make a list of the major colleges that have racist pedigrees. Then make a list of all of the racist AD's that continue to vastly under hire black head coaches in major college football. Why aren't the HBCU's more represented in major football? Probably because the elite black players would go to their alma maters, win championships, give the schools big $, put their resources on the same level as the blue bloods & give education in the ghetto a revolutionary level playing field. Don't get me started boy...

Ohio_Cane

Guessing big news is something about Schwartz Center or something along those lines.

VA Cane

I could not agree more CR.Yes Randy was a Cane, from Miami, knew coaches black and white and could have really built the fence....hell with his advantage he could have built a steel cage!!!! But he chose not to....he was not a good HC....for different reasons I mentioned. Ultimately, he did not have HC skills to go along with his insider presence and inroads!!!!

I think it would have been ideal to leave Shannon as the DC, he had good defenses. Sumlin was at Oklahoma when RS was hired; he was readily available....dont think we even knocked. He was the OC there his last 2 years....averaged 44 PPG in 07. So he was available, but as usual, with Clappy and Randy they made bad hires. Sumlin is a great cat; I met him at a clinic one year, a friend from my hometown coaches hoops and has a friend who is at A&M....Mike says his friend is crazy over KS...as are the students players and school. ...the guy has class charisma....you know he can recruit....and he would rope em in in SoF. How did we miss him? He is a dynamic young educated experienced outgoing guy....and just happens to be black!!!! I mean if you wanted a black coach, which is great by me....he was the guy to get. Did not do bad in first year at A&M either Huh?

Like Phil Collins said "Oh Oh I missed again, Oh Oh Oh Oh, I believe I missed again"!!! He would have been a good get folks....and I am not knocking AG or anyone else, I just think KS was a real winner!!!!

CaneRock

I can

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:13 PM

No you can't.

thirstybuzzardcane

I guess race had nothing to do with the election either.....why is it blacks turned out in records? Now your going to say I'm racist for saying this...I'm far from it!

Schweaty Balls

Then make a list of all of the racist AD's that continue to vastly under hire black head coaches in major college football.

Posted by: CoCone | February 07, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Yep thats it, the AD's are racist for the under hiring of black head coaches. Typical response. Please son! Last I checked you get hired on qualifications, but I guess in that other world you live in apparently thats not the case.

thirstybuzzardcane

I'm just saying blacks favor there race more!

Schweaty Balls

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:13 PM

No you can't.

Posted by: CaneRock | February 07, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Yes, I can.

thirstybuzzardcane

Enough with race talk........can't wait for the big news!!!

Canesfan_1

Sweaty balls, you are normally sensible on most stuff, whether I agree with you or not, but you've crossed he line here

Shannon may have failed as a head coach, but he was never a racist, or said or did anything racist, and it's wrong of you to go there, give me some real examples of his racism, because I followed him closely, and I never saw it.

Unless you're one of those people that think being a proud black man that tries to set an example for young black men is being racist.

j.w.

UMike...A day late and a dime short, literally.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Agree wit hot hof you if that's the news. Unfortunately the news we want isn't usually what we get. Please make it happen this time. . .

CaneRock

Yes, I can.

Posted by: Schweaty Balls | February 07, 2013 at 12:24 PM

But you didn't.

Ohio_Cane

Oh my...

Gorten - So Alex Collins' mom hired attorney 2 "represent the family's interests" after what went down yesterday, per release...

Ohio_Cane

^^^^^

Lt. Philip Nolan ‏@TheStateOfTheU

This Collins stuff just gets weirder. Either his mom is legit nuts, or she sees what is happening and is trying to fight it.

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