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March 04, 2013

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coldcane

yessssssirrr

JCane

I'll grab the #2 and be happy!

Terrance Sullivan

Great stuff 86.

JCane

Good article and good topic for discussion. Maybe reason #1 why a 5 star flames out is the old word "overrated?" Sometimes the best player from such and such h.s. looks better than he may really be given the competition or great athletic skills, but maybe simply not have what it takes vs. higher level talent, or may simply have maxed out physically too soon....so many potential reasons. Brown obviously has done better in his home state than he ever did in Coral Gables.

Hassan

FiF

Hassan


A lot of 5 stars flame out because they was not that good to begin with. Evaluations suck and most people just copycat Eval's.

Another reason is because HS Evals are really more about potential then what is here and now and unfulfilled potential is the most plentiful ingredient in the universe.

BamaCane

They fail because of the evaluation!! Honestly ESPN has the most truthful evaluation cause they have at most 10-13 5star tagged recruits!! Not 30+ like everyone else!!

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

24/7 and scouts gives out the most 5 stars.

Sean Spence is a Beast!!!

To be fair to Arthur, he didn't exactly flame out entirely. He's a 2nd rounder in this year's draft and became big12 all-america no?

BamaCane

Truthfully the only true 5star recruits we sign since 08 were S.Henderson & A.Brown!! I'll take workhorse 3star over a overrated 5star any day.!! R.Shannon ruin football careers to be honest! ! He was good person not head coach!!

Old Skool

From today's NYTimes

Rupert Murdoch plans to create a national cable sports network in the United States to compete with ESPN: Fox Sports 1.

About damn time conservatives have their own sports network. I'm sick of networks like ESPN that are run by liberal Hollywood corporations like Disney.

Way too much time is given to teams that represent blue states. I'm talking New York, Boston, LA., San Francisco, San Diego, Chicago, Seattle, Minneapolis, Detroit.

They need to focus exclusively on Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, Atlanta, Arizona and Tennessee.

CaneRock

To be fair to Arthur, he didn't exactly flame out entirely. He's a 2nd rounder in this year's draft and became big12 all-america no?

Posted by: Sean Spence is a Beast!!! | March 05, 2013 at 12:21 AM

I agree.
Never understood why the kid didn't see the field. You wanna get a good idea of a player's and team's potential, watch special teams. AB was VIOLENT! on special teams, Him and Sam Shields.

Another player that should've seen the field more, was Spencer Adkins. Kid had 4.3-4.4 speed, and could lay the wood.

Sarasota 'cane

Old Skool I have never thought of ESPN as a "liberal" network, and I've never considered FOX Sports as being conservative! the political climate in America is officially "Bat Shyt Crazy"! Thanks for throwing another log on the fire!

Go 'canes!

NativeCane

For Hassans eyes only:
http://www.ocala.com/article/20120105/articles/120109840

$7,000 to $15,000 per primate aint chump change.

Dem Canes!!!

LB

"Truthfully the only true 5star recruits we sign since 08 were S.Henderson & A.Brown!!"

Actually, that's not true.

2009- Armstrong
2010- Henderson, Anderson (though he never signed on campus)
2011- Chickillo, Grimble
2012- Howard, Duke

The only year we didn't sign a "gazer's paradise" was this year.

The test, however, is through the tangibles.

How many starters did you get from a class?
How much did those starters produce in proportion to your original goals?

By those means, the previous two coaches were failures and Golden is a phenomenal success.

1. He turned the corner with Susan's man.
2. Chickillo, Dorsett, Perryman, Johnson, Howard, Bush, Flowers, and Lewis (among others) did so immediately.

Old Skool

Hmmm Keith Olbermann got his start where.
And NASCAR is signed with which network.

Hassan

LB some of your 5 star guys was not 5 star with everyone.

Native that is cool ish

CaneRock

They need to focus exclusively on Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, Atlanta, Arizona and Tennessee.

Posted by: Old Skool | March 05, 2013 at 03:58 AM

Teams NOBODY! wants to watch, EVEN! when they're WINNING!

Sarasota 'cane

90% of Nascar's programming is on ESPN! As they say on Sunday's: c'mon man!

CaneRock

For Hassans eyes only:
http://www.ocala.com/article/20120105/articles/120109840

$7,000 to $15,000 per primate aint chump change.

Dem Canes!!!

Posted by: NativeCane | March 05, 2013 at 07:57 AM

LOL, WOW!
Didn't know we had monkeys in Florida.

Old Skool

Sarasota.
You're right And Keith Olbermann worked for Fox Sports for three years.

Now as to whether the new network will be halal, that's another story. :)

CaneRock
There was an island in the keys where research monkeys were kept. The thing was overrun with them. I'm not sure they're still there.

BamaCane

Not based on ESPN!! Brown & Henderson were the only can't miss prospects as 5star as categorized!! Howard was a top 15 player & Johnson a top 40 player but not 5star players!!! Depending on what site u agree with!! I prefer ESPN cause it more realistic!! Ppl mix sites to make class sound good! Personally I don't care about a star if fits right for TheU!!

orange 'n green in the vein

They fail because the art of recruiting can never 100% accurately predict the science of college weight program physical development results four to five years from signing day.

RuthlessPosse

Recruiting services are overrated hype machines

herbieibis

Well the Herb knows this, for the last 8 to 10 years, every 5 star player we've gotten has played like a 3 star player over the course of their careers. Ryan Moore, a one year wonder, Art Brown, couldn't get on the field, except special teams and mop up duty, Willie Williams redshirted because of a knee injury and then was a mop up guy and then he went all to hell after he left.Latwaan Anderson never made it on the field. Reggie Youngblood was injuried alot and had an average career. Kenny Phillips probably played the closest to his 5 star rating and he wasn't all world. It's been a minute and a half since we've had a A-A on defense or offense. We've had a couple freshman A-A but that's been it. Hindu has one year left to justify his 5 star rating, Howard and Johnson have 3. We all know how Armstrong turned out. To me the curse lives on for us. Show me some consistency, not one year wonders!

Ohio_Cane

Manny - Brennan Carroll said Corn Elder will either be a RB or slot receiver based on need. "He's a point guard by trade."

Ohio_Cane

Manny - Brennan Carroll on toughest part of switching from TEs to WRs "moving over 2 locker spaces." He's always been involved in passing game

Ohio_Cane

Manny - Carroll said #Canes WR Rashawn Scott has shown a "workman like attitude" since returning. Scott was suspended for final 3 games in 2012

Ohio_Cane

Alabama offered. Want him as a TE/HB

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Michael-Ferns-137345

SOUP

Winter Haven...Fort Pierce...Fort Lauderdale. What did I miss?

Ohio_Cane

Seantrel with a new attitude and work ethic this year. Expect a new man, who'll be starting every single game.

SOUP

Note to Carrol: Please try this:

1. Start with Duke and Corn lined up in the backfield together.

2. Then go empty backfield with Duke and TE Sandland and Corn and TE Dobard split out to opposite sides of the field.

3. Throw it to Duke or Corn on a WR screen and let Sandland or Dobard block and let them RUN in the open field.

4. Do that a few times a game, maybe once a quarter alternating sides of the field and who gets the ball, Corn or Duke.

That is all. Thank U!

CaneRock

An in-depth SB Nation investigation has uncovered a conspiracy between major college coaches to make football players slower. The hours-long investigation compared the 40-yard dash times given to high school recruiting sites by 203 players with the 40-yard dash times recorded by those same athletes at the NFL Combine.

The results were staggering:

157 of the 203 players are as fast or slower than they were in high school, according to their claimed 40 times.
The average college football player is nearly a tenth of a second slower (e.g., a NFL Combine 4.5 after a high school 4.4) after four to five years in a college strength and conditioning program as he was when he entered that program.
93 players ran a sub-4.5 second 40 yard dash in high school. By the time they finished college, just 40 players were capable of breaking the 4.5-second mark.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/3/1/4038740/2013-nfl-combine-high-school-40-yard-dash-times

herbieibis

It's called muscle mass. It's hard to keep those 40 times, when you're 20 to 30 lbs heavier than in high school.

SOUP

NEW BLOG IS UP!

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