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May 01, 2013

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herbieibis

What do you know the Herb's favorite topic, the defense or lack there of! Let the Herb enlighten you, McCord might be our best pass rusher but he ain't got no meat on him yet to go up against those beasty tackles. More than likely the Herb sees him playing more Lb than DE but he will play a little of both. The argument I hear most is about our CB's being 10 yds off the line of scrimmage. It's true and that's why they look like butter on toast and also to deep for run support. Let's look at the real problem our DT situation, Most of you love Curt Porter and think he is our savior up front and he does do a descent job against the run but getting to the passer or collapsing the pocket, it ain't happening and don't look for that point guard height to be knocking down any passes either. What's left, well there is Robinson, could be a hidden jim, if he feels like playing every down and not crying to his daddy for PT. Pierre, who came in as a DE, is still learning the Tackle position and could be a good one before he leaves. That leaves us with Moore, Ivery (*who I heard was a lazy azz), King & Grimble. Grimble has been a mystery. All world DE coming out of High School but hasn't made the transition to tackle yet. The problem with a lot of these guys they weren't work out warriors in high school and got by because they were bigger than most people they went up against. Our LB's, aside from Kirby & Perryman, are just average. Gaines, has the size but gets lost 2 much, Armbrister, former saftety is still learning the position, Figeroa could be the real deal but he is just a freshman, that leaves Blue, who reshirted & Bond a Jucco, who had good numbers but against 2ND rate talent. If Porter and Perryman get hurt like they did last year, it could be a long, long year. The secondary has the most talent but the better players are young. No matter, no pass rush they get ate up. If they play bump and run like we all want them to, we better get a rush, that's the key, the rush. 1

360Cane

Fans talking schemes. Cute.

CaneRock

DAMN!, CoCane goin' off like TUPAC!

CoCane

You know what... People are going to see & believe what they want. When FAU rips off chunks of yards in the 1st game under the scheme I & every opponent we've faced has been exposing going on 2 years now. I will laugh my black azz off at the pandamonium on this blog. I will sarcastically chuckle as FAU's QB has all day, with a spliff, tea & crumpet break to throw the ball, with Kelvin & Shayon displaying their impressively consistant lack of pass rush moves. While McCord is on the sideline waiting to get in for 10 plays at OLB. I'll be pizzed too but I'll laugh to keep from exploding. I won't even get on here to say I told you so. Bask in your bliss of unawareness until reality biatch slaps you... Smh

CoCane

OMG to the lack of comprehension.

CaneRock,

When Shannon went zone the CB's were only 5 yards off of the line. What does it take for people to understand that when CB's are 10 yards off the line, the boundary is wide open for bubble screens, slants, quick outs, hitches & comebacks in the passing game. In the running game sweeps, stretch plays, pitch outs & misdirection to the edge will have the RB AT LEAST 5 yards upfield before there's a chance to touch him. Add in the fact that if the WR gets just a decent block on the CB that's 10 yards upfield, it's going to be a 10-20 yard run everytime. Plus a couple will get taken to the house. Sound familiar??? IT'S WHATS BEEN HAPPENING TO THE DEFENSE SINCE GOLDEN D'OFUKNO GOT HERE! UUUUUUGH!!!

Then you have the audacity to bring up the Maryland game from 2 years ago, talking about McGee in man coverage. He got burned once in bump & run after he tweaked his ankle. That was his first start you know. Also, they barely played bump & run. They were in that 10 fukkin yards off of the line zone. Which the Terps exploited by throwing 10-15 bubble screens that ripped off chunks of yards all night. How many times do these fukkers have to see that zone get shredded on the boundary because the CB's are 10 yards back before they fukkin get it??? How many 3rd & 3's or 4's or 5's must get converted with a slant, quick out, hitch or comeback underneath the 10 yard cushion before these fukks understand??? THIS SHYT IS REDUMBULOUS!!!

ALL YALL NEED TO KNOW IS GOLDEN SHOWER, D'FUKNO & JETHNO HAVE MOVED THEIR BEST PASS RUSHING DE TO 2ND STRING LB! THEN THEY'LL COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LACK OF A PASS RUSH!? ('o')

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!
THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK???

CaneRock

I'm not following the logic in pointing that out as a counter to anything I wrote.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | May 01, 2013 at 08:46 PM

OGV, I assumed by the post below, that you meant the lack of B&R, resulted in a porous run defense?

"In 2002 a whole new starting defensive secondary was broken in and to help them get up to speed, Shannon called a lot of zone over the top and kept the corners off the line more to keep them from getting toasted in bump and run in an attempt to protect their confidence as players, the result? Run defense suffered and ultimately cost UM the title."

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | May 01, 2013 at 07:25 PM

SOUP

The "Canespace Challenge" is next!

orange 'n green in the vein

Now the cupboard is stocked with what these coaches brought in, so dinner is being made with their own ingredients.

CR, show me the video, because you're right, I don't remember McGee in bump and run at all that game, although again, first problem with the scheme is the line play philosophy, CB placement at scrimmage is secondary or tertiary to that. Run defense was exactly the same from '10 to '11 in terms of YPC given up so your point is that McGee wasn't good in bump and run the first year he started, so they don't play it and get toasted anyway? I'm not following the logic in pointing that out as a counter to anything I wrote.

CaneRock

OGV, you do know that zone is stronger against the run, than man coverage..."11 set of eyes on the ball", as they say.

You must've forgot the Maryland game the year before last, where B.Mcgee was gettin' DISHRAGGED!, in bump-n-run coverage.

CoCane

I give up OGV. People just don't get it. There's no point trying to explain it. It's like a bird trying to teach a fish how to fly. To you, they're just blinking their lips & blowing bubbles. To them, you're just flapping your wings & screaming hysterically. Fukk it... (shruggs)

orange 'n green in the vein

"Posted by: antcane aka anthonyjmanis | May 01, 2013 at 06:58 PM"

I was there. The answer is unequivocally, yes.

In 2002 a whole new starting defensive secondary was broken in and to help them get up to speed, Shannon called a lot of zone over the top and kept the corners off the line more to keep them from getting toasted in bump and run in an attempt to protect their confidence as players, the result? Run defense suffered and ultimately cost UM the title.

That was a defensive scheme that still got up the field on the line to disrupt plays in the backfield, it's worth mentioning, (and they set an NCAA pass defense efficiency record for a season IIRC) which is the main difference and problem #1 with Sandusky's scheme that D'No won't get out of the shower in the morning without.

antcane aka anthonyjmanis

As far as McCord I was saying he could play the Jack and play strong/weak side with his hand in the dirt to give us an over or under look respectively ie Cameron Wake Regan Upshaw etc etc.

antcane aka anthonyjmanis

Coke I agree 100% about adjustments and do not take DNo side but do you think if he was the DC in 2001 we'd suck this bad. Im saying the problem is both talent and scheme. I was with you while others were bashing Howard at the spring game but after him who else could hang with our receivers?

Montreal-Cane

Congrats to Gino and Coach Golden from Canespace

Last time Canes baseball was fun to watch this player was on the team...2008...A long time ago.

http://theubaseball.com/

Time for a young very talented and very hungry coach for the Baseball program. Thank you coach Morris for the good years.

It's about time for UM to have a men's golf team once again...It's only natural...you are in Florida...

We had a good one in the early 80's...

86Cane

John Infante ‏@John_Infante 2h

Average value of a full grant-in-aid in FBS was $20K for public in-state, $39K for public out of state and $52K for private.

86Cane

Dewey was going to transfer because he couldn't handle a heaping helping of GRAY CROW. Yeah, I said it!

SOUP

John Infante ‏@John_Infante 1h

FBS schools are spending $105,000 per athlete vs. $36,000 in FCS and $43,000 at schools without football.

Ohio_Cane

Oh, my bad. Read that like U thought Dewey was gone still.

orange 'n green in the vein

Like I said O_C, there was the perfect opportunity and now the window has closed for the foreseeable future, I was disappointed, thought I knew the CEO better.

Ohio_Cane

OGV, maybe because Dewey isn't leaving he let it go?

orange 'n green in the vein

I'm quite disappointed that 86 did not take the perfect opportunity to comment that Dewey was out the door because he couldn't handle a heaping helping of GRAY CROW.

He's been waiting literally years for this and then it just passes him by, sadly.

SOUP

Read this and prepared to be pissed:

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-04-30/duke-investigation-lance-thomas-jewelry-ncaa-no-wrongdoing-blue-devils-lawsuit?modid=recommended_2_5

SOUP

How many people do we have on here that would be interested in playing golf in the Orlando area? If interested email me at:

canespace86@aol.com

raizecane

Soup - I am sure we can find something centrally located....

Ohio_Cane

Jon Bastian - DT Freddie Booth-Lloyd Hearing from The U http://acc.xofan.com/Miami/dt-freddie-booth-lloyd-hearing-from-the-u/

SOUP

Roger Kuznia Sporting News

With Shane Larkin off to the NBA, the Miami Hurricanes lack a point guard. They may have one option with incoming football freshman Corn Elder, who told Sporting News via Twitter that he’ll be playing basketball, too.

Elder told Sporting News that he and the 6-7 Derrick Griffin, also an incoming freshman for Al Golden’s football team, will be playing basketball for Jim Larranaga’s squad.

The University of Miami could not confirm the news Tuesday afternoon.

Larranaga said in the Larkin news conference on Sunday that he would inquire about the status of both players. The 5-11 Elder was named The Tennessean’s football and basketball player of the year this past season, while the 6-7 Griffin could be a valuable addition to the Hurricanes’ frontcourt. He told 247Sports.com that he wants to play college basketball, too.

orange 'n green in the vein

If you can keep the Head Ball Coach out of first place in a golf tournament, both you and your partner are pretty decent at the game to outright good.

Like I said, he'll always have golf coaching to fall back on even if he'll be coaching the women's team.

SOUP

Go Canes!!!

Posted by: NativeCane | May 01, 2013 at 01:46 PM

Hey dude, are we going fishing this Friday or Saturday at Medard Resevoir or Lake Kissimmee or WHAT? Call me.

Judson this means U too!

Ohio_Cane

Barry Jackson ‏@flasportsbuzz 6m

Also, after UM granted Preston Dewey permission this week to find another school - and after talking to other schools - his father said he has decided to stay at UM after all, even if he doesn't play.

NativeCane


shame UM isn't a Catholic school I would have enjoyed seeing a gang of nuns rush the plane and beat the coaching staffs ass with their own yardsticks.

Posted by: solarcane | September 09, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Thats funny shmidt right there, I dont care who you are!

Go Canes!!!

LB

Given the schedule, this team won't win less than 9 games unless complete catastrophy strikes. I'm leaning towards 10-12 because we have an experienced quarterback and our opponents are mostly mediocre to awful.

FAU, Savannah, USF, Wake, Duke, UVA, and Pitt should be a given 7 wins. Duke lost their QB.

Va. Tech's running game is as bleak as Tim Tebow's passing proficency. Georgia Tech is at home.

That's nine wins. I'm leaning slightly to 10, but 9 is my prediction unless D'Onofrio unretards himself and puts McCord on the edge and creates a pass rush.

SOUP

Muhammad and Kamalu have a shot to nab it day one. I hope they're ready, because they could absolutely be the difference between 12 wins and 10.

Posted by: LB | May 01, 2013 at 01:11 PM

Or 8 wins or 10?

LB

Good for UM basketball.

As for the Soupers being negative, that's oversimplfying. Criticism is GOOD. We critique the strengths (OL, tailback, Morris) and weaknesses (DL, LB depth) because we want them to WIN.
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Interesting discussion on defensive line.

"I mean really, when's the last time we've had a kid that was 6'4-6'5 plus,260 plus, that had the physical ability to get after the passer...Calais Campbell?"

On the entire defensive line (including the six that will probably play and excluding the freshmen: Chickillo, Green, Hamilton, Pierre, Porter, Robinson), we're averaging 286.

The ends? 270. The tackles? 301. I think the size is okay, and completely comparable size-wise to elite pass rushers.

Green is solid and consistent, but he's a run stopper. Chickillo is streaky. Perhaps he had a sophomore slump (like Spence). Hamilton is an unknown. I don't trust the defensive tackles at all. Putting McCord off the edge is idiotic. He's easily the best pass rusher we have.

Either A. McCord is purely a rush linebacker or B. D'Onofrio is simply insane. Based on the information we share in private, I'm leaning towards B.

If you're a defensive line recruit, you'd have to be nuts not to come here. If you have a good work ethic and any talent at all... you could start day one on a historical power in a mediocre conference with a guaranteed BCS appearance, play against one of the best offensive lines in the country, NFL pipeline, and a top 40 education. Dude X has a guaranteed spotlight.

Muhammad and Kamalu have a shot to nab it day one. I hope they're ready, because they could absolutely be the difference between 12 wins and 10.

86Cane

calGary...I totally agree and have put an end to it. At least for now anyway. LOL

calGary Cane

Posted by: SOUP | May 01, 2013 at 10:03 AM

It's dragging gripes out, over and over again, that makes the blog really tiring to read.

j.w.

Good morning folks! Always a good day when you hear we lead for a DL recruit.

NativeCane

Hey Spurrier........

STROKE MA!!!!!

Go Canes!!!

86Cane

Miami Basketball ‏@CanesHoops 15m

From CBSSports. com: @GoodmanCBS listing Larkin (#14) + Kadji (#57) in latest #NBA mock draft - http://cbsprt.co/ZVnxEg

86Cane

Kansas State transfer Angel Rodriguez is heading to Miami, multiple sources told CBSSports.com.

The 5-foot-11 point guard, who spent his first two seasons with the Wildcats, will attempt to get a waiver from the NCAA to play next season due to health issues with his family, sources told CBSSports.com. Rodriguez played high school ball at Krop High near Miami, and his family lives in Puerto Rico. Rodriguez said he was leaving Kansas State to be near his family.


Rodriguez averaged 11.4 points and 5.2 assists last season for a Kansas State team that won 27 games.


If granted a waiver by the NCAA, he'd step in and fill the void created when point guard Shane Larkin decided to leave for the NBA. The 'Canes also lose the rest of their starting lineup. Next year, though, will likely be a rebuilding season in Coral Gables, anyway, and it could be more beneficial for Jim Larranaga and his staff if Rodriguez sits out next season and has two years remaining.

SOUP

Miami Basketball ‏@CanesHoops 9m

From CBSSports. com: @GoodmanCBS listing Larkin (#14) + Kadji (#57) in latest #NBA mock draft - http://cbsprt.co/ZVnxEg

Ohio_Cane

Angel Rodriguez picks Canes! Huge for Bball team!

Dude on a Pale Horse

SOUP, if the D struggles out of the gate, and continues for the remainder of the season, how long do you think D'No will be DC?

Ohio_Cane

Got this response about Dewey on twitter:

"CaneSport saying they spoke to his dad and he's not transferring."

Ohio_Cane

Summer Price Slice

From May 28, 2013 through October 3, 2013, for tee times scheduled after 10:00 am and before 3:00 pm, you can play on any of the Disney World 18 hole courses for only $59.

http://www.wdwgolf.com/

Posted by: SOUP | May 01, 2013 at 10:45 AM
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Aka, the hottest part of the day. LOL

I play at 7-8 am tee-off or don't play at all! Haha

SOUP

Summer Price Slice

From May 28, 2013 through October 3, 2013, for tee times scheduled after 10:00 am and before 3:00 pm, you can play on any of the Disney World 18 hole courses for only $59.

http://www.wdwgolf.com/

SOUP

Raize...Deland is kinda far for me in Winter Haven. Other options more centrally located? Have U ever played the Disney courses?

SOUP

Miami Ticket Office ‏@UMTickets 51m

Single game on-sale dates are set: Hurricane Club Members - July 22; Season Tix Holders - July 29; Public - August 5. http://gocan.es/10wzYbd

UMike

You guys need to come to my neck of the woods..the course has overviews of the mountains and the course is on top of a mountain

raizecane

Soup - Victoria Hills in Deland is one of the nicer courses in Orlando and if timing is right, can get a reasonable price. I just got back from my annual 3 day golf trip and still recovering, lol.

SOUP

UMike...here is a good example of me being fair and balanced (or maybe even negative).

Read this:

http://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2012/09/a-measuring-stick.html

SOUP

Raize...lets do it! I suck at golf since I only play like 4 times a year but am ALL in. Is there a course near U that is good, not too crowded and reasonable?

CaneRock

NOT because Golden isn't a good coach and doing great in many areas, but our D is horrible and there is enough talent for it to not be that way.
Posted by: UMike | May 01, 2013 at 08:48 AM

I'ma sound like "Da Herb", but D-LINE! D-LINE! D-LIIIIINE!!!

And this may sound funny, but the biggest problem I see with the D-Line is...We have too many kids that we recruited as DEs, that have grown into DTs! Either that, or D'Onofrio has a FETISH! LMAO!

I mean really, when's the last time we've had a kid that was 6'4-6'5 plus,260 plus, that had the physical ability to get after the passer...Calais Campbell?

raizecane

I'm thinking a Canespace Golf outing is needed........

SOUP

UMike...I prefer the term "fair and balanced" rather than "negative". LOL

I can be critical or negative when I have to be and when it is justified (see my baseball article from the other day: "Hey, What's That Smell?"), but I just try to approach everything from as positive a perspective as possible until I am given no other choice than to be negative.

So yes I admit I spin things to the positive maybe more than most but when the spin no longer works or doesn't seem to be valid anymore I am left no choice but to call it for what it is.

The bottom line is this: Our Defense HAS TO BE a top 50 defense (in total D and scoring D) THIS YEAR or heads MUST roll.

UMike

Posted by: UMike | May 01, 2013 at 08:48 AM

I agree. It reminds me of the way Shannon hitched his wagon to J12 to sink or swim. Seems like Golden's wagon is hitched to D'No sink or swim.

Somebody throw them a life jacket, QUICK!

Posted by: SOUP | May 01, 2013 at 09:11 AM

Someone please record this lol..SOUP agreed with me on something negative lol

LB

Best of luck to Dewey, but by all accounts Crow was ahead of him. Add in Ryan Williams and Kevin Olsen to battle for the 2014 starting job, and I can completely understand trying to nab opportunity elsewhere. Also, there's a chance UM brings in two additional QB's this year (I doubt that the current commit stays).

SOUP

UMike...Carter is 6-2 and 210 and red-shirted last year. He wears #81, is a BIG target and was a standout this Spring.

SOUP

LB..I have said it numerous times..Goldens tenure will succeed or fail based on D'No. If there isn't drastic change and D'No doesn't get fired, Golden will fail.

Posted by: UMike | May 01, 2013 at 08:48 AM

I agree. It reminds me of the way Shannon hitched his wagon to J12 to sink or swim. Seems like Golden's wagon is hitched to D'No sink or swim.

Somebody throw them a life jacket, QUICK!

UMike

SOUP..I also was thinking we forgot Carter

SOUP

All the talk about WR's yesterday and we didnt even mention Jones and Lockhart lol

Posted by: UMike | May 01, 2013 at 07:23 AM

Lockhart may be in some caca from what I recently heard and Jones wears #15 and is not in the three deep and may be a possible transfer later on.

The one to watch for is: Jontavious Carter

http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=658368&SPID=103763&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=205558233&Q_SEASON=2013

UMike

Lockhart...I thought He was either hurt, or still nursing His injury.

Jones...well, hey, the coaches didn't mention Him either, so WHY! should WE! LMAO!

Posted by: CaneRock | May 01, 2013 at 07:54 AM

I agree..just saying..there is a lot of depth there lol

UMike

LB..I have said it numerous times..Goldens tenure will succeed or fail based on D'No. If there isn't drastic change and D'No doesn't get fired, Golden will fail. NOT because Golden isn't a good coach and doing great in many areas, but our D is horrible and there is enough talent for it to not be that way. I also think it is effecting defensive recruits.

LB

Note that Golden and Saban are on the same side, but as far away from each other as you can get. Urban looks sour as hell.

That email could send a Canes fan into a rage. I'll advise all folks involved to keep quiet, but I'll say this:

If UM doesn't have a top 50 defense, heads will roll (and friendships won't matter). On a positive note, I'm glad we're attacking defensive prospects.

Hooray for Malcolm Lewis! He's a good dude that deserves the spotlight.

CaneRock

All the talk about WR's yesterday and we didnt even mention Jones and Lockhart lol

Posted by: UMike | May 01, 2013 at 07:23 AM

Lockhart...I thought He was either hurt, or still nursing His injury.

Jones...well, hey, the coaches didn't mention Him either, so WHY! should WE! LMAO!

UMike

All the talk about WR's yesterday and we didnt even mention Jones and Lockhart lol

UMike

From CanesInsight via Canesport...


Travonte Valentine UPDATE

Here is what he is saying in a new article on canesport.

Palm Bay (FL) Bayside High School 4-star DL Travonte Valentine currently lists a top three of Miami, Alabama and Tennessee.

And he has one standing out on top.

"Miami is in the lead," he says.

Asked how big a lead the Canes have, he said, "Right now they're in a good position, but you never know."

UM will have a chance to get in an even better position this weekend - Valentine plans on taking an unofficial visit to the school.

"I just want to look around, check the campus out again, see how I like it," said Valentine, who lists 28 offers including Miami. "My visit last time was fun - that was last month."

He's taken other visits to Florida, Florida State, Clemson and South Carolina. He also plans summer visits that will include Alabama and Tennessee.

Valentine is in regular contact with Cane coaches Hurlie Brown and Jethro Franklin.

"They say how much of an impact I can make on the D line, how important I am to them, how quick I am off the ball," Valentine said.

Valentine says he decided on his top three based on "How their football teams play tough, how their defensive players are known to get drafted early."

And he says UM is in the lead because "It's the family (atmosphere), how things are, all the legendary people that have gone there."

Valentine says there's a chance he'll make a commitment in July but that he hopes to wait until his birthday Nov. 15.

"I love Miami and if I had to pull the trigger for how I feel about Miami I will," he said. "But right now I just have to stay calm, stay focused and see where this path will go."

UMike

Dewey transferring..although IDK where..and Miami coaches visited Colquitt Co. (GA) DT Jamiyus Pittman yesterday

roachcane77

Too bad we no longer have a mens' golf team, huh?

roachcane77

Bingo... Early Bird.

Go U Golf?

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