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May 06, 2013

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86Cane

Is there any team outside the sec doing well signing DTs?

Posted by: My Balls are Sweaty | May 06, 2013 at 06:36 AM

In the class of 2013 recruiting cycle outside of the SEC schools ND, USC, FSU, UNC, Michigan, Ohio State, Washington and Baylor signed a top 25 DT.

In the State of FL there were 4 DTs rated in the top 30 by Scout. FSU signed 2 of them the #7 and #18 ranked DTs and UF signed 2 also the #17 and #19 ranked DTs from 2013. Which means UM signed 0.

According to sources there are allegations are that at least one of the UF recruits had the kitchen sink of recruiting enticements thrown at him which according to "rumors" is why the UF DT coached recently "resigned" to "spend more time with his "family".

In 2012 according to Scout there was only ONE DT from FL ranked in the top 30: Omari Phiilps from Venice, FL. He was ranked #19 and went to Tennessee.

In 2012 UF signed a JC transfer who was ranked #20 and that's all.

In 2012 FSU sigend 2 DT's ranked in the top 25 on Scout. FSU signed the #4 and #10 ranked DTs that year but neither was from FL, one was from Wash D.C. and the other from Alabama.

In 2011 there were only 2 DTs from FL ranked in the top 25 by Scout. FSU signed the #4 ranked propect and UF signed NONE. The other recruit from FL was ranked #23 and went to Bama.

In 2011 Miami signed Jalen Grimble from Las Vegas, NV the #7 ranked DT nationally by Scout.

So in the last two years FSU has signed the #4, #4, #7, #10 and #18 ranked DTs to Miami's ONE (#7 Grimble). UF has signed the #17, #19 and #20 for three total over the last three years (one a JC transfer).

My intial analysis of these facts is consistent with Canespace recruiting expert UMike and is as follows: "NOT GOOD".

Canesfan_1

First, right off the bat, I'm no Onofrio or Jethro fan. I hate onofrio's passive, ten yards off the ball scheme. My problem with Jethro is he hasn't produced bottom line. Whether I aching or recruiting, based on MEASUABLE results.

But this "I have read/heard from multiple places that Franklin is an azz clown on the recruiting trail and many families just dont like him" is just gossip rag nonsense. How about some specifics, and sources, otherwise it's meaningless mouth diahhrhea. We have enough problems recruiting defensive players without this unsourced silly gossip being put out there TO HURT US.

Just my 2 cents

UMike

Awww...did Canesfane_1 not like my comment again?? lol...I said I "read/heard"...just passing it along Dude...but dam..hurt my credibility again lol

UMike

Yea..i was purposely trying to hurt Miami..that makes sense lol

UMike

I think as long as we win some games this year (8 to 10), and our D shows any improvement, we should pick up Clark & Valentine and perhaps a JUCO DT or two. We are also in the thick of it for Lamont Gaillard and Thomas Holley.

UMike

Miami coaches also recently visited Lorenzo Carter the #1 rated DE and #9 overall. I don't think he is realistic,but at least the staff is putting in the work.

UMike

Any of you guys have any experience with handicapped seats at Sun Life? If so do you about the pricing and/or how to buy them

86Cane

George McDonald interview at The 'Cuse:

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/54958/checking-in-with-syracuse-oc-george-mcdonald

86Cane

Yea..i was purposely trying to hurt Miami..that makes sense lol

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 09:45 AM

Not U personally UMike, but believe me when I tell U that OTHERS are intentionally trying to hurt UM and spreading untrue rumors is the oldest trick in the book to get that done. They almost always get repeated as was the case here.

86Cane

FROM HEATHER AT THE ESPN ACC BLOG

Miami officials aren't the only ones still waiting for closure from the NCAA on its investigation into the program.

ACC commissioner John Swofford told ESPN.com on Thursday that the mere length of this case is "a sanction in itself." A hearing is scheduled to begin in June, but Miami officials filed a motion about a month ago to dismiss the case before it even gets that far. Miami is not commenting publicly on whether or not the NCAA has granted or denied its motion, but a school representative said the university has heard from the Committee on Infractions and that, "as of now, we are progressing towards the hearing."

The NCAA did not immediately return a phone call and email seeking comment on Friday afternoon.

“I think Miami has handled its part of this in a quality way and a very appropriate way and has addressed it head-up with self-imposed sanctions," Swofford said. "Hopefully this will be coming to an end in the next few months because it’s dragged on long enough. That’s a sanction in itself, when something of this nature drags on literally for years without being brought to a conclusion. So hopefully we’re near the end of it.”

UMike

Not U personally UMike, but believe me when I tell U that OTHERS are intentionally trying to hurt UM and spreading untrue rumors is the oldest trick in the book to get that done. They almost always get repeated as was the case here.

Posted by: 86Cane | May 06, 2013 at 10:03 AM

We don't know if this rumor isn't true lol

UMike

It definitely isn't a rumor that his D-Line has consistently under performed lol

BEERicane

I don't know that I can say they've underperformed. Crap in, Crap out, right?

UMike

Something is definitely scaring these DT recruits away. We have managed to get highly rated QB's, DB's, WR's, TE's, LB's (not many), and DE's..but no DT's. The last highly rated DT we had that committed AND signed was Luther Robinson who was a 4-Star in the 2009 class.

UMike

BEER..you could definitely be right, but Chick didn't seem to improve and he was our best, or among our best, DL. I think we had enough talent to be better than we were. I know he isn't dealing with the deepest pool of talent, but geez lol

Houston

The stats don't lie. The D-line has not produced, BUT you can see improvements (O. Pierre, Robinson and Porter). I really think the early depature from 2 years ago hurt and AG and staff had to bring in bodies for the D-Line (King, Plug, etc.) Now we just have to continue teaching and making the most of the D-line on campus and recruiting others. It is time for Grimble to produce. IF he can bring his game up to O.P., L. Robinson, and C. Porter that will go a long ways allow us to rotate 4 quality guys in. We can then rotate them out on 3rd and long (when's the last time we had one of those) and bring in a Chick to get more speed in the interior.

UMike

Here is the "talent" Miami has brought in since the 2010 class. Not all players made the field and some didn't quality etc..but here are the D-Line commits according to Rivals starting with the 2010 class.

2010
Jeffery Brown DT 2-Star
Tavadis Glenn DT 4-Star
David Perry DE 3-Star
Andrew Tallman DE 3-Star
Delmar Taylor DT 3-Star

2011
Anthony Chickillo DE 4-Star
Jalen Grimble DE 4-Star
Olsen Pierre DE 3-Star
Corey King DT 2-Star
Darius Smith DT Unrated

2012
Jacoby Briscoe DT 3-Star
Jelani Hamilton DE 4-Star
Dwayne Hoilett DE 3-Star
Dequan Ivery DT 3-Star
Tyriq McCord DE 4-Star
Earl Moore DT 3-Star
Jake O'Donnell DE 3-Star

2013
Ufomba Kamalu DE 2-Star
Al-Quadin Muhammad DE 4-Star

UMike

Houston...I didn't take into account the early departures, good point. I don't think Porter improved as much as e just got healthy. But Pierre has improved, i agree.

herbieibis

And that's sad, that Lutha was even a 4 star. He's played like a no-star.Let's put blame where blame is deserved, first our present DT's scare no-one! Now we can blame the coaches, it's true, are DEE-line coach (Jethro) hasn't motivated anybody, except to get out of the way of the ball carrier and don't touch the QB until, he's drank his coffee. In their defense, the talent level is not very good, I hate to say it, but it's true. What did we do to remedy the problem, nothing, we couldn't land one DT but of course we only went after about 4 guys initially and only after we didn't get those guys did we go after about 4 more and that went South too! We did get some raw bone, that played DE and he will move to tackle, so I guess we did get one. Our LB position is a little brighter but it seems we are in the business now of getting them ready for the JR. Colleges. The Herb sees the Defensive front playing better than they did last year, they can't be much worse, so that has to be a plus. We'll dip inside of the 90's at best. I hate it for our guys in the secondary because we actually have some talent back their.

Houston

Another Houston? Sup brah are you in Houston TX? Not many fans out here.

86Cane

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86Cane

We don't know if this rumor isn't true lol

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 10:40 AM

THERE U GO AGAIN!

See if U can get this "Mr. Negativity":

Of course we don't "know" if it is true, but repeating it as though it IS true or like U WANT it to be true is where U go wrong. Stay away from believing negative rumors about YOUR team and from repeating them and perpetuating them AT ALL COSTS!

Results in recruiting and on the field are FACTS. Stick to those and U will better serve this blog and YOUR team. The truth always comes out in the end, trust me.

86Cane

The last highly rated DT we had that committed AND signed was Luther Robinson who was a 4-Star in the 2009 class.

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 10:46 AM

In 2011 Miami signed Jalen Grimble from Las Vegas, NV the #7 ranked DT nationally by Scout.

UMike

We don't know if this rumor isn't true lol

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 10:40 AM

THERE U GO AGAIN!

See if U can get this "Mr. Negativity":

Of course we don't "know" if it is true, but repeating it as though it IS true or like U WANT it to be true is where U go wrong. Stay away from believing negative rumors about YOUR team and from repeating them and perpetuating them AT ALL COSTS!

Results in recruiting and on the field are FACTS. Stick to those and U will better serve this blog and YOUR team. The truth always comes out in the end, trust me.

Posted by: 86Cane | May 06, 2013 at 11:36 AM

How can you simply write something and it come across as true or i WANT it to be true? lol...I said I "READ/HEARD"..never said anything to make it sound like I wanted it to be true. lol..

UMike

The last highly rated DT we had that committed AND signed was Luther Robinson who was a 4-Star in the 2009 class.

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 10:46 AM

In 2011 Miami signed Jalen Grimble from Las Vegas, NV the #7 ranked DT nationally by Scout.

Posted by: 86Cane | May 06, 2013 at 11:38 AM

According to Rivals..where I got my info..he was a DE

86Cane

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86Cane


How can you simply write something and it come across as true or i WANT it to be true? lol...I said I "READ/HEARD"..never said anything to make it sound like I wanted it to be true. lol..

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 11:44 AM

I knew there was slim to no chance that U would get it. And U wonder OUT LOUD on the blog why some people think U are too negative? Really? Be Calm and Blog On!

UMike

On a positive note..Morris and Duke are still on the team lol

UMike

If people wanna think Im negative..fine..but I do post just as mush good information as bad lol....SOUP..you got any info on handicapped tix? They dont seem to be available online to buy.

calGary Cane

How can you simply write something and it come across as true or i WANT it to be true? lol...I said I "READ/HEARD"..never said anything to make it sound like I wanted it to be true. lol..

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 11:44 AM

UMike, you r tiresome. 86 never intimated that you wanted it to be true... He only said stay off the negative rumors.

calGary Cane

I start to see why 86 wants to quit sometimes.

UMike

calGary..it kinda looked like that is what he meant lol..but IDC what you think neither..if I see/read/hear something I post it..it is fine for people to talk about the lack of DT's, or how bad D'No is, etc etc..but when I say something its a "negative rumor" lol..Before signing day last year I was picking against the Canes for a few recruits and everyone gave my shyt about it..but I turned out to be right..same with Sony this year. How come nobody gives Ohio crap for being to positive and leading all the spacers to think we were gonna get all those recruits lol...so we can spread false rumors as long as their positive? Got it lol

UMike

I start to see why 86 wants to quit sometimes.

Posted by: calGary Cane | May 06, 2013 at 12:14 PM

yea..cause some bloggers like me are soooo horrible to deal with lol..I have meet SOUP on numerous occasions, done tons of good things for the blog..so if he quits it will be because OGV not me lol

Ohio_Cane

Are U trying to say I spread false positive rumors to encourage Canes fans?

Tell me I didn't read that right. Or at least tell me it was sarcastic to prove a point.

UMike

BTW..did anyone notice all the positive info I posted this morning?

UMike

Ohio..you know Im being sarcastic lol

Ohio_Cane

Ohio..you know Im being sarcastic lol

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 12:22 PM
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Just checking.

For the record, my predictions are based on opinion, as no one knows for sure what a 17 yr old will do next week/month/year. There may be a tad of homer in there, but it comes with the territory lol

86Cane

I start to see why 86 wants to quit sometimes.

Posted by: calGary Cane | May 06, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Uh-huh.

86Cane

I have meet SOUP on numerous occasions, done tons of good things for the blog..so if he quits it will be because OGV not me lol

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 12:20 PM

This is ALL TRUE!

UMike

Ohio..that is kinda my point..just opinions based on stuff I see/hear/read lol...I mean we are talking about the lack of DT commits..so I mentioned what I heard about Franklyn..I didnt just randomly say it even though I read about it a while ago..it was part of the topic lol

Sinistercane

No"D" would make Kirby Freeman look like Tom Brady

86Cane

How come nobody gives Ohio crap for being to positive and leading all the spacers to think we were gonna get all those recruits lol...so we can spread false rumors as long as their positive? Got it lol

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Ohio...U were wrong, don't let it happen again!

UMike...There now do U feel better? LOL

UMike

hahaha 86

UMike

No"D" would make Kirby Freeman look like Tom Brady

Posted by: Sinistercane | May 06, 2013 at 12:29 PM

NEGATIVE!!! lol

UMike

For the guys that know about scheme and stuff..how do you cover up a bad d-line? Blitz?

86Cane

For UMike's EYES ONLY:

Tampa Bay Buccaneers RB Mike James was honored Saturday as the University of Miami's 2013 Community Service Male Student-Athlete of the Year.

86Cane

Dennis Dodd ‏@dennisdoddcbs 12m

Frank Haith seeks to determine if bank records were improperly accessed. http://cbsprt.co/ZBgjAU

UMike

86..I also read that the Bucs think/expect James to be there #2 back.

Ohio_Cane

Frank Haith seeks to determine if bank records were improperly accessed. http://cbsprt.co/ZBgjAU

Posted by: 86Cane | May 06, 2013 at 12:48 PM
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Who would be shocked? Raise your hand.

*Crickets*...............

orange 'n green in the vein

This Haith thing is interesting because I've talked to tellers at the evil corporation who have stated if you look into certain accounts (think trash 'reality' TV 'stars' who are on the cover of the local supermarket rag with their ugly sisters and a baby bump with no wedding ring) without authorization an investigation is immediately launched into the employee's actions and you're basically fired unless they or their representatives are standing there telling you to bring up the account.
Now, obviously, Frank Haith isn't pregnant by a rapper, so he doesn't have that kind of protection, but still, he deserves privacy of his records despite the lawyer scum who think otherwise on the payroll of the NCAA being whipped up into a frenzy by Kyle Wrong's #1 fan who wants to elope to a state that will recognize his marriage to the bust.
Got ethics? UM could also use an AD that's Got Intelligence, Eichorst apparently did as far as I can tell, James, jury's still out, Special K, BWAHAHAHA! Yeah right!

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