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May 06, 2013

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Ohio_Cane

I don't know if this was posted here or not, but good lord...

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"As we reported in our last post, the NCAA this past week essentially ruled out UM’s hopes of the case against it being dismissed before a full hearing in front of the infractions committee in mid-June.

Meanwhile, for the first time, Al Golden is quantifying – with numbers -- the impact this case has had on recruiting.
“If you just take the number of kids that flipped on us in the last two years, that’s a big number,” Golden told us.

“But I’m talking about kids [that say]: ‘I really like Miami, but I don’t know what’s going to happen’ [with the NCAA]. That number is well over 40. Easily over 40.

“The further they get along in the decision-making process, the attacks on us grow exponentially once we’re identified as one of the players in their picks.”

Golden said he doesn’t believe the investigation has hurt the perception of the program but “the toxicity is the problem, whether it’s through the media or things the kids are exposed to. There hasn’t been a time where we haven’t had negative recruiting. It’s been difficult.”

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sport...#storylink=cpy

Hassan

Ohio I can see you homer Simpson style saying "DOOLP" and hitting your face when Sony picked GA

herbieibis

Hey Al what about the Kids that say they have been life long Hurricanes fans only to fly the Coop, are these the ones you are talking about? I think about everyone knows that the worst of these sanctions are behind us and have been since before signing day, save for maybe a few ship loses.

86Cane

Now, obviously, Frank Haith isn't pregnant by a rapper, so he doesn't have that kind of protection.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | May 06, 2013 at 01:18 PM

How can U be so certain? LOL

Ohio_Cane

Ohio I can see you homer Simpson style saying "DOOLP" and hitting your face when Sony picked GA

Posted by: Hassan | May 06, 2013 at 01:52 PM
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I'm pretty sure I attached the "Homer" tag to that pick on this blog, and even went on to say it's 50/50 where he goes.

But lol

Ohio_Cane

Hey Al what about the Kids that say they have been life long Hurricanes fans only to fly the Coop, are these the ones you are talking about?

Posted by: herbieibis | May 06, 2013 at 01:53 PM
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We've been losing those kids for far longer than Golden's tenure, Herb.

86Cane

Hassy...what up doggie? Be safe.

Ohio...Even if U take Golden's claims of over 40 players to be stretching it a little bit much then still even if was HALF of that total then what the ACC Commish said is true: "The delay for over 2 years has been in and of itslef a PENALTY."

Hassan


Chillin in the Cut out here in AF. Ish get's real out here, this past week was the start of the "spring offensive" worst fighting we have had since 2007..... Poppie production is up 5 fold and I feel like I am in the Full Metal Jacket movie, call me "Joker" you cna be "Cowboy"


http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/05/04/4022792/inside-the-deal-how-john-swofford.html


TonyCane

Curious...on a major investigation outside of Auburn or Penn State when has the NCAA actually completed it in anything close to a timely manner. Back in the 90s the Pell Grant investigation took two years.

Hassan


Conference........Population
ACC..................93.62 million
Big Ten..............69.30
Pac 12...............62.00
SEC..................58.64
Big XII...............36.65

TJL

Tar Heels got rings-did the U?

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/04/30/4013098/unc-tar-heels-ring-in-as-accs.html

orange 'n green in the vein

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For a three way tie in a six team division?

Please. I know the schedule bar is being lowered but there's still standards at the football program that need to be kept up. And I'm not (just) talking about the joke of naming an empty trophy case football team as the 'standard' of the league when they've fallen off the cliff as soon as those words passed the football coach's lips and tickets are $5 to the game against them this year.

I'm sure Al can avoid negative recruiting if that gosh darn unfair NCAA would just fast track this whole deal already, that will stop the mean other coaches from saying bad things about Miami immediately, I just know it! SMDH.

Ohio_Cane

Vinny T and Touchdown Tommie inducted into College Football HOF

UMike

mMtthew Thomas wants out of his scholarship so he can sign with UGA or USC..hmmmm

UMike

Matthew Thomas**

UMike

Booker T. Washington linebacker Matthew Thomas – one of the prized gems in Florida State’s highly-touted recruiting class in February – said Monday he is seeking a release from his scholarship so he can sign with Georgia or USC.

Thomas, the No. 1 recruit in Miami-Dade in 2013 and the nation’s No. 2 outside linebacker according to Rivals.com, said he informed FSU coach Jimbo Fisher and defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt late last month that he is not planning on reporting to school in the fall and that he hopes the school will allow him to play elsewhere. But Thomas (6-3, 205) said FSU’s coaches do not want to release him and told him last week they’re planning on visiting him in South Florida to try and talk things over.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/06/3383387/booker-t-washington-star-linebacker.html#storylink=cpy

UMike

This is the type of crap ESPN has on its college football homepage...

"The SEC won the first BCS title. Wouldn't it be fitting if it captured the last as well?"

Ohio_Cane

Matthew Thomas wants out of his LOI with FSU to sign with USC or UGA.

LOL

Ohio_Cane

I didn't refresh, UMike. LOL

laquinton

Hahahaaaaaa sucks for fsu

Ohio_Cane

Hahahaaaaaa sucks for fsu

Posted by: laquinton | May 06, 2013 at 04:07 PM
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Yep. They don't HAVE to let him out of it tho, I don't think.

UMike

I knew it was coming Ohio..I mentioned it a couple weeks ago..From reading before there seemed to be zero interest in Miami, but I think that is only because he would have to sit a year. At least we dont have to worry about him balling out against u slol

UMike

Ohio..they dont have to..but since USC and UGA aren't not ACC teams they will probably let him so it doesn't get ugly.

UMike

According to Barry Jackson Thomas left UM in Fed. thinking he would sign with UM..he knows he cant now since FSU wouldnt release him to another ACC school

UMike

left UM in Feb.***

Ohio_Cane

At least we dont have to worry about him balling out against u slol

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2013 at 04:10 PM
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Or getting shook by Duke/Yearby.

See 2:26 in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=deIXH-uFt2o#!

Terrance Sullivan

OGV bringing the heat today.

CaneRock

SUNDAY BUZZ COLUMN

“If you just take the number of kids that flipped on us in the last two years, that’s a big number,” Golden told us. “But I’m talking about kids [that say]: ‘I really like Miami, but I don’t know what’s going to happen’ [with the NCAA]. That number is well over 40. Easily over 40.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2013/05/golden-on-ncaa-ncaa-punts-on-um-shapiro-explains-k-wright-move-fins-heat-marlins.html#storylink=cpy

CaneRock

From same article:

### The NCAA confirmed to UM last week that it’s throwing out all of Kyle Wright’s incriminating claims against the Hurricanes because they may have resulted from Sean Allen’s improperly-obtained testimony. But if Nevin Shapiro had his way, Wright never would become embroiled in this.

Shapiro never implicated Wright to the NCAA – though he allegedly accepting trips from Shapiro’s sports agency (to the Bahamas, a concert in Detroit). Why?

“Kyle got [expletive] by UM and Randy Shannon specifically,” Shapiro said, explaining why Wright was the only player he excluded. “UM really did that kid bad. He came from California and gave up a lot to do so and they [expletive] all over him. They left him to defend for himself against a clown like Randy Shannon.

“Kirby Freeman ahead of him in the quarterback competition? Get the [bleep] out of here. Kirby couldn’t beat me out and I’m 44,” claiming he out-threw Freeman in a competition on UM’s practice field. OK then.

Wright declined to comment, through his father. The NCAA claimed Wright called the NCAA to report UM; Wright told UM it was the other way around.

TJL

I hope MT gets his release or Ice will be mad at Jumbo!!
MT plays like Marvin Jones another linebacker from Miami we had to deal with at fsu. The late-great Jim Mandich used to call him
"a werewolf on wheels"

j.w.

Thanks for the update on Thomas, friends. Saw something buzzing but it's nice to come to one spot and get the real news.

CaneRock

“I’ve been in Miami all my life. Georgia needs linebackers. It’s a big program. I have family in Georgia. USC, growing up I never thought I would have an opportunity that big. I just want to go have fun and play football.”

.............................WHAT!!!!!

Terrance Sullivan

Back in February the Al Golden Hater Club was ranting about how he don't understand South Florida when it comes to recruiting and all that jazz. Looks to me like Matt Thomas wanted to go to Athens all along and the kid from Lauderdale was going to Arkansas no matter what. Now the jury is still out on his Gameday coaching ability but all that jazz about not knowing how to recruit. Child Please.

CaneRock

That's why I can't stand these recruiting sites, and ESPN that portray these DUMASS! kids as adults. SHEEZ!, do their Mamas dress em' up in the morning too.

herbieibis

Jim Morris says UM is not on a level playing field with other schools in Florida because of the high cost of tuition. Hasn't it always been this way. One of the reason's UM is not a major player in baseball lately and is tied for the fewest homeruns by a school in a major conference. Maybe your eye for talent isn't what it used to be.

orange 'n green in the vein

Matt Thomas' signing fiasco has got nothing, and I mean NOTHING, on DJ Williams' fiasco 13 years ago. Keep trying though bucky, and I guess he didn't notice USC has been garbage for half a decade now?

CaneRock

FSU Signee May Need Rare NLI Appeal

Matthew Thomas, a linebacker from Miami's Booker T. Washington High School, has asked Florida State for a release from his National Letter of Intent. Thomas claims he signed the NLI "under duress", which in this case was family pressure:

“What happened was on Signing Day was I wasn’t sure who I wanted to sign with. I had issues with different schools. But when I told my mom I didn’t want to sign with anybody and wait and give it a few days she said I couldn’t do that. She said, ‘FSU is a good school – pick them. It’s close to home.’ I wasn’t agreeing with it. But I felt like I was being disrespectful to her if I didn’t sign. So I made her happy.”

Thomas says Florida State's coaches have not granted the release. Issues like this are relatively rare at this level of sport. Most NLI issues for top prospects involve midyear transfers. It is uncommon for highly recruited football players to have a fight over the NLI before arriving on campus, especially when there has been no coaching change.

The article says the decision rests with the Florida State staff but in the case of an NLI, that is not entirely true. Unlike an enrolled student-athlete's request for permission to contact other schools about a transfer, an NLI release can be appealed outside of the school.

NLI releases are administered by the NCAA Eligibility Center on behalf of the Conference Commissioners Association, which oversees the NLI program. When a school denies an athlete's request for a release, the athlete has 30 days to appeal the denial to the NLI Committee. Athletes even have a second appeal, to the NLI Appeals Committee, should they still not be granted a release.

So Thomas has a number of options available to push for a release. The big question is whether his reasoning will be good enough to convince one of the NLI committees to grant him his release. The easiest solution for Thomas would be for Florida State to change its mind about releasing him, which might happen after a face-to-face chat.

If Thomas does not get his release from Florida State, his appeals are not successful, and he still decides to go somewhere else, he will be subject to the NLI's basic penalty. He will lose one season of competition in all sports and be required to sit out his first year at the other institution. That would leave him with four years to play three seasons.

In theory, Thomas would still be able to receive a scholarship and practice during that year in residence. The problem is the NLI's recruiting ban, which would prevent him from seeking out and signing with a new school, at least until he enrolled there and potentially even longer.

orange 'n green in the vein

Someone check Thomas' navel and make sure the umbilical cord isn't still attached!

Montreal-Cane

Jim Morris says UM is not on a level playing field with other schools in Florida because of the high cost of tuition. Hasn't it always been this way. One of the reason's UM is not a major player in baseball lately and is tied for the fewest homeruns by a school in a major conference. Maybe your eye for talent isn't what it used to be.

Posted by: herbieibis | May 06, 2013 at 04:56 PM


That's it Morris ia way over the hill. Time for new blood.

Dude on a Pale Horse

So where did Thomas really want to go?

Old Skool

Old news for Canespace regulars ....

Vinny Testaverde will be inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame.

Terrance Sullivan

The Dude Matt Thomas wanted to go to Georgia as first priority USC as second priority. FSwho was a 3rd choice and if all else had fallen he would have settled on Miami. The guy just was saying that stuff just to keep the locals off his back.

TonyCane

Remains me of the olineman who faxed two sets of commitments back in 2000. Miami and UF. Miami let him out of it

Canesteeler

Jim Morris the clock better be ticking!

SOUP

Someone check Thomas' navel and make sure the umbilical cord isn't still attached!

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | May 06, 2013 at 06:15 PM

LMAO!

Do U see why I am SO DONE with recruiting?

Brevardcane

Except for Ricky Town

SOUP

Heat lose to da Bulls.

CRAZY!

SOUP

Except for Ricky Town

Posted by: Brevardcane | May 06, 2013 at 09:40 PM

WELL YEAH!

SOUP

Bulls steal Game 1, top Heat 93-86


By TIM REYNOLDS
Posted May 06 2013 10:02PM

MIAMI (AP) Nate Robinson scored 27 points, Jimmy Butler added 21 points and 14 rebounds while playing every second for the third straight game, and the Chicago Bulls stunned the Miami Heat 93-86 on Monday night to take Game 1 of their Eastern Conference semifinal series.

Trailing 86-83 with 2 minutes left, the Bulls scored the final 10 points of the game to beat the Heat once again.

Joakim Noah added 13 points, Taj Gibson had 12 and Marco Belinelli added 10 for Chicago, which snapped a 27-game Miami winning streak during the regular season, and handed the Heat their first loss in their last 13 games in this one.

LeBron James scored 24 points for Miami, which got 14 from Dwyane Wade.

Game 2 is Wednesday night in Miami.

laquinton

What happened with dj17 recruitment ?

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