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August 28, 2013

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Ohio_Cane

"Don't know if this was reported already but the father of Texas A & M wr committ Ricky Seals Jones claims he was offered $ 300k by both a sec & acc school 4 his son's services."

That's pretty cheap considering the going rate.

Posted by: LB | August 29, 2013 at 09:50 AM
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I read $600k

Gin & Tonic

Manziel suspended for one half is a joke. Either suspend him or don't.

However, this has nothing to do with UM case. Manziel was one incident with one player. Big difference between that and the scope of the UM investigation.

UMike

G&T, I agree the scope is much larger and more involved, but one issue I have is how the NCAA repeatedly interviewed the same people trying to dig up "evidence" in the UM case, but simply used the evidence Manziel provided to determine his fate. If this was Morris they would have interviewed the brokers who made the claims, repeatedly, they would of interviewed the ESPN reporter who said he saw the video and heard Manziel's remarks etc etc etc. But all they did was talk to Manziel and then close the case.

Ohio_Cane

Pete Ariz:

Thought this would be an interesting look at the roster.

**Using Rivals.com’s star system, here is the breakdown of Miami’s two-deep depth chart for the FAU game:

Offense
5-stars: 2 (Seantrel Henderson, Duke Johnson)
4-stars: 5 (Stacy Coley, Ereck Flowers, Brandon Linder, Shane McDermott, Eduardo Clements)
3-stars: 10 (Allen Hurns, Herb Waters, Malcolm Bunche, Jon Feliciano, Jared Wheeler, Clive Walford, Maurice Hagens, Stephen Morris, Dallas Crawford, Phillip Dorsett)
2-stars: 3 (Asante Cleveland, Walter Tucker, Ryan Williams)

Defense
5-stars: 1 (Tracy Howard)
4-stars: 5 (Anthony Chickillo, Kacy Rodgers, Luther Robinson, David Gilbert, Raphael Kirby)
3-stars: 10 (Antonio Crawford, Curtis Porter, Justin Renfrow, Alonzo Highsmith, Jr., Olsen Pierre, Denzel Perryman, Tyrone Cornileus, Ladarius Gunter, Nate Dortch)
2-stars: 2 (Ufomba Kamalu, Jimmy Gaines)
NR: 3 (Alex Figueroa, Thurston Armbrister, Nantambu Akil-Fentress)

**When healthy, Deon Bush is expected to return to the two-deep. He was a 4-star recruit.

orange 'n green in the vein

Brokers didn't want to talk to the NCAA.

That's the difference. UM has a jailhouse snack that can't get any attention except by talking, so he talks. Brokers have a real business not a ponzi scheme, so they have better things to do than interview repeatedly from a prison cell with the amateur athletic traffic cops.

All this hand wringing by Miami fans is misdirected. Special K is where you should be dumping dirt on the grave of, not the NCAA, they'd be remiss not to interview those willing to talk. Plus, it ignores the fact that a bunch of barely average football teams got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, all the 'greats' at UM who are implicated were freshman on the last championship team, after that, a bunch of entitled believers of their own hype that never lived up to it. Like solar said YEARS ago now, you get caught speeding, you get mad about it, you go to court and you pay the fine anyway, he was 100% right.

VA Cane

Good point OGV. I don't think it is particularly UM....my contention is that the NCAA has outlived its usefulness, and there has to be a modern approach to recruiting, money etc. I am not saying no rules, but progressive ideas. Not way left or right, but somewhere that is sensible for all.

The haves will always have, and some have nots may become semi haves (TCU, Boise, Utah etc) but face it those people do not have big time programs and never will. It is not about level playing field, it is about competition. There needs to be a top tier super conference with the big players....the rest stay in the other 3 divisions. You play only the best teams non of the lower teams...I hate playing FAUs of the world...they suck. Play all top tier opponents...I like the idea of VT-Bama, NC-SC, we should be playing UF not this rinky dink sandlot team this week. Get rid of FAU, SF and Savannah; play Ohio State, UCLA and ND in their place. That makes this so so schedule a mans schedule not 3 patsies to go along with some competition.

UMike

OGV, you have a point..BUT, even the former players that didn't want to talk they tried repeatedly to talk to. They put pressure on UM and UM even told players if they don't talk they aren't allowed back...where was all that pressure and bullying with Fairyball? That is my particular beef. To me it just seems the NCAA didn't TRY to find anything n Manziel but tried VERY hard to find everything and anything on Miami, even going as far as to say something was corroborated if the rat said it twice.

Ftmcane

For once I agree with ogv. The brokers aren't speaking to the NCAA so what does Manziels attorneys do? They strike a deal for half a game and case closed. Even if the brokers do talk to the ncaa, im sure his attorneys made sure there would be no further punishment in case the brokers were sandbagging. He's gonna eventually burn a&m in one way or another anyway.

VA Cane

In my world, I lobby for playing the best teams. I am playing Clover Hill and Beattie Weaver as 2 of my 8 reg season games....they were conference champs of the 2 divisions north of the river. I want to play the best and beat the best....therefore it makes me the best. I hate playing teams that are not so good; we use real vanilla stuff against them so we do not run up the score. I also set up 4 scrimmages before the season starts against the best 4 teams; makes me better.


I am very disappointed playing the shitty teams on our schedule; I want a big conference of the best 50 or so and you play only the best teams. I want to play Bama, OSU, Oregon, LSU, UF, FSU, Michigan, Ok, Nebraska, USC etc we might lose all those games but then we may win the m all....hell 12-0 and a playoff title would really solve this mythical NC talk....we have 5 titles....but they are all mythical just like everybody elses. Playoff system of top teams in top tier puts this mythical stuff to rest.....and they are just that myths when you start to think about it.

I am old school....when we won 2 straight HS titles, we played a good reg season and tough playoffs... blew out good teams 38 straight...on our way to 2 state titles. I want to always beat the best...its my way of proving you are the best!!!! JMO

CaneRock

Plus, it ignores the fact that a bunch of barely average football teams got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, all the 'greats' at UM who are implicated were freshman on the last championship team, after that, a bunch of entitled believers of their own hype that never lived up to it.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | August 29, 2013 at 10:40 AM

YEAH BUT!...it was only one cookie jar.

VA Cane

Hes gonna get the dogshit knocked out of him one way or another....works for me........I would be gunning for the pretty boy.....hard and low in the gut under the chin.....don't matter just serve justice

CaneRock

YEAH BUT!...it was only one cookie jar.

Posted by: CaneRock | August 29, 2013 at 11:16 AM

And not one time has Shapiro implicated other boosters. The Miami case doesn't hold a candle to SMU, and it definitely doesn't compare to Penn State.

I know a guy that was a TAMU alum, worked at a car dealership during His College years...and let's just say uhhhhhh, them boys was ridin' around NICE! in College Station...Ricky Seals AIN'T $HIT!, Ricky Seals ain't no PHUCKIN'! recent revelation.

Hell ya'll think TAMU jumped to the $EC for...IMMUNITY! LMAO!

PHUCK! THE NC-DOUBLE-A-HOLES!

CaneRock

$hiiiit, compared to other programs in the South, we've probably ran the TIGHTEST SHIP!

Bring on the Canes

Does anyone have 2 tic's for sale for the Gator game if so please let me know.

herbieibis

Now, that they got Johnny football cleared, maybe now they will once again worry about us and you better believe it will probably be before the Flo. game just to mess with our minds. The Herb can't stand the NCAA henchmen because they are like Gnats but we have nobody to blame but ourselves for getting into this predicament and being at their mercy. It sux but it's the truth. Those bastards hate us as it is and slow bleeding us is a way to get back at us.

Canesfan _1

Some people on here need to brush upon our case.

As just ONE example, DeQuan Jones' case and Manziel's are comparable. Similar amount of money alleged, and both involved a question of eligibility. Dequan misses 11 games as the NCAA takes its sweet time. Unlike Manziel, Dequan is COMPLETELY exonerated, and was found to NOT have violated any rules, while Manziel misses 30 minutes for an admission of rules violations.

Also, some of you need to check the NCAA's bylaws. They don't need direct testimony to act. They can use statements attributed and not made directly to them, as long as they can be verified as having been made, which the broker's statements are. The brokers unwillingness to speak with the NCAA are totally irrelevant, as they had in essence testified to the ESPN reporters.

Let's not let the NCAA off the hook. They definitely have multiple standards.

UMike

In Cam Newtons case they even had proof his dad got money, but said since Cam had no knowledge of it, it was ok lol

orange 'n green in the vein

VA C, I'm all for getting rid of the cupcakes from schedules and I agree that writing a rulebook for a digital age instead of an agrarian one would be a major improvement in the bureaucracy that runs this whole show, but I think if you go no price barred for recruits like the major land grant powers would love to see, UM can't play in that field, heck they can barely play in the over-regulated field they exist in now in a lot of ways.

UMike, I didn't personally like The Don's thumbscrew turning letter, but I understand why she would do something like that in the situation she was in at the time. Is making someone suggest you go stick your next request for an interview where the sun don't shine one more time unreasonable in a thorough investigation? Not to me, especially when you have someone of little person stature waiving bank statements and receipts in your face raving about how many rule violations he was directly responsible for. Again, get mad at the traffic cops all you want but I find it misdirected, after-all Special K sure has moved on to bigger and better things and is showing how on top of everything he is at Lubbock so there's no reason to doubt his leadership in his previous stop after the fact is there? Oh. Wait.

Fc, look out, start agreeing with me here, next thing you know, somebody who never went a day to the college I did and who will talk major sh!t about a guy who contributed some substantial hardware to the trophy case in Coral Gables at the drop of a hat, while pumping up how awesome reptile baseball with not a single title is, will accuse you of personally not liking a football coach as he and his best friend field the worst defense in UM history and you mention they aren't very good at this game-day coaching thing apparently two years before it happens to play out on the field after you state that. Too bad you're not signed in to typepad, we could go back and pull up your Nostradamus impersonation posts from around the Sun Bowl if you were. I agree that Manziel can't survive on innate spidey-sense in the pocket much longer since he now is a target for the rest of his playing days. Who wants to be the guy who ended a Heisman's career is the question going into every game he steps on the field for now.

CR, YEAH BUT . . . no hands are supposed to be in ANY so it's tough for me to garner a lot of sympathy for those that couldn't resist.

VA Cane

I think you are right on the no holds barred $ OGV, that is where regulation would need to be monitored and regulated. I do not want to pay salaries, but I want these kids who need money to have it. Johnny Littleballs has $ from mommy and daddy...he is set. I think it can be done compared to the caveman rules we have now...you cannot even give a kid a shirt, cleats or a ride....lots of dumb shit!!!

orange 'n green in the vein

UMike, that was a fantastic jiujitsu counter by junior Newton, wasn't it? "Duh, uh, I didn't know my dad shopped me around to SEC schools, so duh, uh, let me go get me some SEC title. Thnx, bye!"

The OSU Sugar Bowl deal one was way worse though in a lot of ways. So it's more top revenue earners immunity, not SEC only, although they are a top earner league.

UMike

OGV, that is true. They made sure to let those OSU players play in the bowl game

mountain cane

Va Cane, until the strength of schedule actually matters in determining who makes the BCS (or playoff upcoming), teams will schedule non-conference patsies, if their overriding objective is to be NC.

There is a reason UF hasn't played an out of state non-conference game in decades.

If you got really penalized in the formula for not playing real teams, the schedule would change.

Ohio_Cane

From SI's Peter King:

BREAKING DETAILS: NFL settles over player concussion lawsuits

*$765M compensation total
*4,500 plaintiffs
*$170K per player

Canezitis

Anybody see the sec segment on auburn vs Alabama rivalry? They asked Scam if he or his dad took money and gave the shytiest grin and said something to the effect of no sir I can cant talk about that. Can't stand the sec, espn, or the notoriously corrupt agency of athletes. The pot's got to boil over sooner or later. They all disgust me and the game I love is turning into a joke.

CGNC


So it's more top revenue earners immunity, not SEC only, although they are a top earner league.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | August 29, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Reverend! BTW, I think another year of Cam Newton overthrowing Greg Olsen and he will be done here

CaneRock

The OSU Sugar Bowl deal one was way worse though in a lot of ways.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | August 29, 2013 at 12:10 PM

It was PHUCKED UP! for T.Pryor, that whole boo-hoo press conference was ridiculous.

DeeCane

SOUP, can't wait till tomorrow brother....ill be on my way about 1130-12pm, ill give u a call once I make it to the hotel

TonyCane

To play devil's advocate, there is a difference between Manziel and Cook. Manziel was accused of selling his autograph. There was no allegation of involvement by Texas A&M coaches or staff. Cook's allegation involved a Miami coach - thus the NCAA spent more resources and time.

That said, when you look at the cases that involve alleged impropriety on a program level - not individual like Manziel - it appears that there is a definitive double standard between Miami and almost anyone else.

mountain cane

I'd like to see NC show up tonight and play well. Not optimistic, however.

Ohio_Cane

I'd like to see NC show up tonight and play well. Not optimistic, however.

Posted by: mountain cane | August 29, 2013 at 02:23 PM
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Highly unlikely. Lol

I'm actually more interested to see what post-Barkley USC looks like.

Gin & Tonic

Gotta love the 'space.

Lots of good points and discussion on the NCAA and Manziel earlier. I enjoyed reading it.

In other news. Does anyone have a link for cheap Viagra they would like to share?

UMike

I'd like to see NC show up tonight and play well. Not optimistic, however.

Posted by: mountain cane | August 29, 2013 at 02:23 PM
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Highly unlikely. Lol

I'm actually more interested to see what post-Barkley USC looks like.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 29, 2013 at 02:38 PM

isnt the OTHER USC (South Carolina) playing tonight? lol

UMike

G&T, for every one of the spam post that make it through, we delete like 300 lol..they sure are persistent ol

Gin & Tonic

Manny posted season prediction on Herald Football Preview.

He sees us losing to UF, UNC and FSU.

I agree they are the toughest three on the schedule but I don't know if I see the Canes getting beat in all of them.

SOUP

Does anyone have 2 tic's for sale for the Gator game if so please let me know.

Posted by: Bring on the Canes | August 29, 2013 at 11:38 AM

What an azz clown.

SOUP

Tell 'em UMike, tell 'em!

SOUP

Off to Sun LIfe Stadium to see some Fish.

Lead, follow or get outta the F$%#^&* way!

MaryLouAlumni

Geez, do I wish I could be there tomorrow night with all of you CaneSpacers, and would have pitter patter in my heart for JJohnson induction. 86, I clicked on Coral Gables link that you put in, and wow, nothin' but memories and more memories. Reeally makes me wish I had stayed at the U after graduation, instead of coming back home to Michigan. Enough of memory lane. Kick some a** tomorrow night, my Hurricanes, and scr** the NCAA bastards.

Ohio_Cane

JUST OVER 28 HOURS TILL WE GET THIS EPIC SEASON ON THE ROAD, FAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GO CANES!!


PS - Ya, I went all "Zilla" pumped on all of U! Deal with it!

Old Skool

Does anyone have 2 tic's for sale for the Gator game if so please let me know.

Posted by: Bring on the Canes | August 29, 2013 at 11:38 AM

I have a couple of tics if you want 'em. You're gonna need to pic 'em up in person though. I work long hours so I can meet you anytime after 10:30 PM. The address will be west of I-95 just off NW 62nd Street.

Ohio_Cane

So apparently the So.Carolina vs UNC game tonight is a battle of in-state rivals. LOLOL!

Gotta love the lack of editors. NY Post of all places.

http://twitpic.com/daxu2x

canezilla


The address will be west of I-95 just off NW 62nd Street.

Posted by: Old Skool | August 29, 2013 at 03:52 PM
OR COME TO MY HOUSE I-95 EXIT OVERTOWN MAKE FIRST LEFT AND FLASH THE LIGHTS,GET OUT OF THE CAR AND WAIT ON THE HOOD

canezilla


PS - Ya, I went all "Zilla" pumped on all of U! Deal with it!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | August 29, 2013 at 03:42 PM

OK,OK I SEE YA...I LIKE IT!!!!

Ohio_Cane

Dequan Jones ‏@Dequan20Jones 22h

Hey @ncaa , y'all are a joke. I'm Dequan Jones and I approved this message.


^^^ LOL!

I think Dequan is pizzed

TJL

Does anyone have 2 tic's for sale for the Gator game if so please let me know.

Posted by: Bring on the Canes | August 29, 2013 at 11:38 AM

I have two I'll give you. Meet me in the Swamp in OT- NW 4 ave & 8 Street

Ohio_Cane

Dequan Jones ‏@Dequan20Jones 22h

My ruling wasn't expedited.
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Dequan Jones ‏@Dequan20Jones 22h

It's laughable. It really it though. @ncaa
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Dequan Jones ‏@Dequan20Jones 22h

Compromise the integrity of amateurism in collegiate athletics for the sake of revenue. Sounds like the @ncaa I know.
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Yep. Pizzed.

orange 'n green in the vein

"Posted by: Old Skool | August 29, 2013 at 03:52 PM

Posted by: TJL | August 29, 2013 at 04:01 PM"

LMAO! Some quality counter trolling there my friends.

SmatCane

Criminal-What happened with Manziel.

Yes, our case is different. The OSU players, the Dez Bryant situation, and there are tons of others where a player received something for their likeness in regards to their playing status with a University and got phucked by the NCAA.

The part of our situation that is insulting is the fact that, since they didn't have a story corroborated twice by a convicted felon....And our players did not have rich hot shot parents with a tough guy legal defense; it is a slap on the wrist?

Nothing about that makes sense. If the NCAA had nothing then there was no reasonable way for them to give a half game suspension.

If Manziel did nothing, there is no reasonable explanation for accepting any suspesion.

It is an even bigger slap in the face to educated individuals and non TAMU fans. If you are going to try and phuck us at least don't tell me it is apple pie and I'm eating dessert.

orange 'n green in the vein

I love college football, too bad I'm going to have to give it up soon it looks like from all the warning signs on the horizon.

sass80

Unc looks totally outmaned!

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