Epic Fail

I told you before the VT game that this was Al Golden's "Golden Moment".

I told you that this was the first MUST win game of his career at Miami.

I told you that failure, and losing, would not be acceptable or approved options.

I told you that against VT anything less than a victory would be unacceptable.

Well apparently Golden, his assistant coaches and the UM players did not listen.

Not only did Golden's Hurricanes fail and lose the game to the Hokies, they got humiliated in a bad way at a rain-soaked Sun Life Stadium on Saturday night.

As many other Miami fans did I arrived at Sun Life five hours early, sat in the stands for over three hours in a cold, drenching and at times pouring rain to watch an unprepared team play an unispired football game.

This morning I woke up sick, tired and about $300 poorer for having attended the debacle. That was when I thought: "You know, maybe I have better things to do with my time than pay money to be this miserable?"

So as not to bore you, I will not dwell on the horrible game, the negative outcome or the incriminating statistics. Instead I will focus on the only positive part of the experience: The tailgate.

But as I said, I am sick and tired after sitting in the rain, staying up most of the night and then driving three hours back home to Central Florida the day after the game, so I will keep it very brief.

First the throng of loyal Hurricane fans, old and young, showed up in force to prepare themselves for the important game.

Then, Miami's finest came through our quaint little tailgate at E5 to enforce some of the stadium rules that mostly everyone ignores.

Next, we turned some of Miami's finest loose on them and the always present, polite and professional PoPo eventually decided to leave us alone.

Then we wandered over to the Westside and found CutlerRidge Laz pouring shots from a full bottle of Patron Tequilla.

And the rest, as my guest for the game KYCane can tell you, is history!

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Comments

[WWIN]

Bama 4 years prior to Sabin

4-9
6-6
10-2
6-6

Us 4 years prior to Golden

5-7
7-6
9-4
7-6

Which situation was worst??????

[SOUP]

NEW BLOG IS UP!

[WWIN]

Tsully, we did win 9

[CGNC]

LA3 - Duke was propped in a chair with recently surgically repaired ankle elevated. LOL not much more he can do than that

[CGNC]

Posted by: SOUP | November 11, 2013 at 02:21 PM

Yeah but do they have any eligibility left LOL

[TonyCane]

Four years prior to Saban:

2003: 4 four stars
2004: 4 four stars
2005: 6 four stars
2006: 2 five stars, 10 four stars

[Terrance Sullivan]

WWIN hell we havent won 10 games since 2003 LOL.

[WWIN]

4 years prior to Sabin

4-9
6-6
10-2
6-6

Looks like GARBAGE to me. LOL

[Montreal-Cane]

Canes win! Freshmen Lecomte and Reed played well. This team is in total rebuild...No NCAA tournament this year but Watch out next year.

[BEERicane]

81-80 home OT win over basketball powerhouse Georgia Southern. Great win.

[Terrance Sullivan]

WWIN I live in this state of Alabama and know all about Alabama and Auburn pull up the records and U will see they werent 7-6 for like 8 straight years lol.

[laquinton]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Wannstedt

Hmmm

[BEERicane]

And MJ5 should have been the starting back his whole career.

[BEERicane]

I am not trying to be alarmist or hyperbolic or anything here. Is it possible Miami is not only the worst team in major conference basketball but possibly in all of division 1 basketball this year?

I agree, though, next year will be the real deal to judge coach L. This is a throw-away year. Everyone knows it.

[WWIN]

Tsully, bama SUCKED before Sabin, trust me I know my uncle loves em more than we love our canes.

Auburn SUCKED and only won bcuz of Cam

[Ohio_Cane]

Canes struggling with Ga Southern? Wow this IS gonna be a long year. Future is bright tho!

[Terrance Sullivan]

Lets Go Canes! Beat Ga. Southern!

[TonyCane]

I'll give you a team that is underperforming far worse than what we saw on Saturday night...despite their 7-2 record they are utterly mediocre, and with a roster that is loaded with "star" players.

University of Texas.

And has been now for four years.

[Terrance Sullivan]

LOL 2 years before Saban came to Alabama they went 11-2 and was #2 in the country in November its not like Alabama was a dumpsterfire. and 2 years before Urban went to Ohio State they were 11-2 and was ranked in the top 10 with a BCS Bowl Win in the Sugar Bowl. Come with better examples than that. Those teams had mad talent and just quit on there previous coach or coach got forced out for NCAA Issues hell Auburn won the National Title in 2010 and was a 9 win team in 2011 they just quit on Cheez Whiz so there was plenty of Talent in Auburn and Malzahn knew the talent because he was the offensive coordinator there in 2009,2010,2011 there at Auburn. I love U guys but use better examples. We have basically been a 7-5 program since the start of the 2006 season with the exception of the 9-4 2009 season. So we have been mediocre for the past 8 years.

[WWIN]

Tony, u have to adjust that to the ACC. Doesn't what Golden in the ACC compare to what Sabin did in the SEC?????

I mean, the only team we have to recruit to compete against is fsu

[TonyCane]

Raizecane, Saban went to Alabama and IMMEDIATELY brought in a good class in 2007. He then followed them up with top classes in 2008 and 2009.

2007: 10 four star players
2008: 3 five star players, 14 four star players
2009: 4 five star players, 14 four star players

Contrast that with Golden...

2011: 2 four star players
2012: 2 five star players, 8 four star players
2013: 9 four star players

Yes, I would say that Saban winning a national championship in year three is understandable.

Talent matters! Recruiting matters!

[WWIN]

LA, the leader of the team is Morris. Yeah I know, we have the blind leading the blind

[LA3]

j.w.

Maybe you are right.
I figure if he is OUT there, then be closer to the team at some point. Not right on sideline but atleast near some of the team...shouting distance. Or roll over during time outs....try to get the fellas heads up!

[BEERicane]

Rainy mess + VT = No good for the canes.

[j.w.]

LA3- just a guess, but I'm betting his doctors didn't even want him on the sideline. Staying back by the bench was his compromise, if he got hit while close to the sideline he could be back to square 1 with his recovery.
Still angry. . .

[Meast]

What a tough loss on Saturday night. I was at the game but didn't watch any of the 2nd half. Me and my 2 buddies got distracted at halftime by some girls we met and well, at that point, the game came secondary lol. The one play that let me know we were going to be in for a LONG night was the 3rd & 17 and we gave up a TD. Worst tackling I had ever seen on that play. Anyway, still going to support the Canes and ride with Golden until the end.

[WWIN]

^^^^^^^^
Raize, u right about that!!!

[LA3]

Just a question for all you Canes fans....

Did anyone else have an issue with DUKE sitting in his wheel chair ALONE during the game?
As team leader, I expected him to get up or roll over and give his team some encouragement or yell at them. ANYTHING to try to HELP.
I may have missed it...but I never saw on TV do anything. I hope I am wrong.

As heart and soul of the team...he needed to do anything to help his team.

[raizecane]

I really don't want to hear excuses for this coaching staff. Saban went to Bama when they were not very good and he won a championship in year 3.

Look at Auburn…..they finished 3 - 9 last year. Gus Malzahn in his first year has that team in position to possibly play for the championship….

I bet Saban can go to Texas after this year and with the NC before Miami wins the ACC. It's coaching people…….

[VA Cane]

I know it seems bad, but we cannot quit now. There are some things that need to change; many people on here have good points. I do not play or coach in this style, but that's me. I have coached sandlot, HS and a little college, but I am not a professional coach; I have never made a dime for coaching. I am very confident in what I teach; its been drilled into me for 48 yrs or so. It works for me on my level.

Spoke with my old Coach Jack Johnson last night. He is a guru even at 70. He said that's the worst game he's seen UM play, tied with OB finale against UVA.

I think to get to where we want to go, we need to get to the basics as a base. Offense Run the damn ball. D get up in there and whip peoples ass, make plays cover man. Once you get that down, then add the more complex details. I think the staff should see that by now; my biggest concern. JMO

[dj moonbat]

On a different note, have you ever seen a kid that runs smoother than Coley? Just amazing.

Posted by: Texascane | November 11, 2013 at 05:42 PM

Devin Hester ran smoother.

[VA Cane]

Bring on `Bama. Florida State, too.

Ohio State wide receiver Evan Spencer made it clear Monday that he believes the Buckeyes are better than No. 3. Spencer had a chance to watch two-time defending national champion Alabama and second-ranked Florida State last weekend while the Buckeyes had an open date.

''I guess I'm a little biased but I think we'd wipe the field with both of them,'' said Spencer with a chuckle. The junior, who is the son of former Ohio State and NFL player and coach Tim Spencer, added, ''That's just my bias speaking.''

Actually, Spencer didn't mention Florida State. Asked if he was referring to the Seminoles, he said, ''Whoever.''

Urban Meyer took a very different approach to making it known that he thinks the Buckeyes deserve a chance to play for the national title.

Meyer said he voted the Buckeyes (9-0, 5-0 Big Ten) No. 2 on his USA Today coaches' poll ballot - behind Alabama but ahead of Florida State.

''I believe we have Alabama, Ohio State, Florida State,'' Meyer said of his ballot. He couldn't remember the order of the next two teams, between Stanford and Baylor.

Asked for his rationale in voting that way, Meyer said, ''I had us (No.) 2 all year. I just think we're playing like one of the top teams in the country right now.''

typical Meyer player.....this is what I coach against, I tell my guys we NEVER talk. All I can say re: Saturday "Hows that Swag working now?!!!!" I hate talk, boasting, and yap yap....it will never win you a game!!!!

Quiet confidence among teammates who can look at each other, never say a word and go out and destroy people....love it!!!! JMO

[Account Deleted]

The only two decent teams, 1 great and 1 OK, whooped us bad. The offense has regressed and the D is hopeless.

Until we beat good teams, the record doesn't matter IMO.,

Posted by: USAFCane | November 11, 2013 at 06:17 PM

TRUTH!!

[Surfercane]

Canes will beat Duke! O yea we miss DUUUKE we r not the same without him!

Record is all that matters the More W's the better !!!!

[Montreal-Cane]

11 drops in the last 2 games it's like we are back to the Randy Shannon years...
Waters, Walford and co. should ask Leonard Hankerson what he did in the off season to solve his problem and become the most reliable receiver in his last season at UM.

[USAFCane]

All you guys are nuts! We r 7-2 and we have been ranked all year! NCAA cloud just cleared several weeks ago. We r lucky to be ranked this late in the season. Finish 9-3 win the bowl game and finish with 10 wins! VAULED IT SOUP
way to much negative Nancy's on the site right now. Almost as bad as the herald.

Now if we go 8-4 or 9-3 and lose the bowl game then bitch. Come on people....

Posted by: Surfercane | November 11, 2013 at 05:57 PM

The only two decent teams, 1 great and 1 OK, whooped us bad. The offense has regressed and the D is hopeless.

Until we beat good teams, the record doesn't matter IMO.,

[VfB_Cane]

way to much negative Nancy's on the site right now. Almost as bad as the herald.

Posted by: Surfercane | November 11, 2013 at 05:57 PM

I think it is legitimate to question our chances against Duke after getting embarrassed by VT, given that
1) VT was @home, Duke will be on the road,
2) Duke is on a 3-game winning streak, VT had lost 2 straight,
3) last year's game was a nail biter, and this year's version of Duke is significantly better.

[SOUP]

Surfer...if we are nuts then you are high. LOL

[Terrance Sullivan]

My guess is if we finish 10-2 we end up in the Chick-Fil-A Peach Bowl in Atlanta on New Years Eve against say Texas A&M or LSU or South Carolina or Missouri. if we go 9-3 i say we end up in the Russell Athletic Bowl in Orlando on Decaember 28th against either Louisville or Central Florida. Either way is gravy for yours truly. If we go 8-4 or god forbid 7-5 the Hyundai Sun Bowl on New Years Eve from El Paso will be calling our Canes but not Yours truly I Cant Go For That No Can Do In My Hall and Oates Voice! Go Canes! Beat Duke!

[Surfercane]

"Vault it"

[Surfercane]

All you guys are nuts! We r 7-2 and we have been ranked all year! NCAA cloud just cleared several weeks ago. We r lucky to be ranked this late in the season. Finish 9-3 win the bowl game and finish with 10 wins! VAULED IT SOUP
way to much negative Nancy's on the site right now. Almost as bad as the herald.

Now if we go 8-4 or 9-3 and lose the bowl game then bitch. Come on people....

[USAFCane]

On a different note, have you ever seen a kid that runs smoother than Coley? Just amazing.

Posted by: Texascane | November 11, 2013 at 05:42 PM

IMO, Coley, Duke and Hurns are the only players who look/looked like they believe right now.

[SOUP]

CSM...we all hear U bro, and it is what it is. The decision to move on is a good one and a healthy one. GO CANES, BEAT DUKE!!!

[Texascane]

On a different note, have you ever seen a kid that runs smoother than Coley? Just amazing.

[USAFCane]

AG has to fire No'D, right now he is on very solid ground as HC and deserves to be after the NCAA debacle, but he needs to show he means business and do the right thing. It will put all the coaches on notice.

For me AG is officially on the clock, no more excuses.

[BEERicane]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jGSvxCRp4

[CaneSawMassacre]

Now... Moving forward.

[CaneSawMassacre]

I'm with you UpNorth.. I just let it all go.

I couldn't muster up the energy to deal with it yesterday.

I didn't even watch NFL, ESPN or anything because I didn't want to be around football.

[CaneSawMassacre]

I've had enough anger built up all weekend. That is all I can handle for now. I'm down with my long work day, and get to come home to my lovely pregnant wife to forget about the rest of this for at least the night.

[UpNorthCane27]

Whats going on guys i have finally calmed myself down from the major dissapointment and anger i have towards our team. Everyone ere has nailed it one way or another from coaches being at fault to players missing tackles and showing no emotion..... Lets hope we can win out the rest of the year and end on a positive note....

Oooo yea

FIRE NO'd!!!!!!!

[CaneSawMassacre]

Interesting stuff JSV..

I've vented and will stop my dispensing of UM football bashing for the betterment of this program.

[jsy]

I was duped by the tie and binder and the process but not no more... Not since 116 last year bc no one in hell was out talent 116 bad not ever is that acceptable to me but it was to golden and he kept dno despite 116 and that was when I went back and reread the above comments and knew he was not the answer

[jsy]

We were all warned about this earlier.....

bg1906
December 13, 2010 at 11:20 AM
Interesting point by a Temple Student but Miami fan…
Dose of Reality
I’m here to bring a dose of reality. In no way, shape, or form am I bashing the guy I’m merely showing you a bit of the truth behind Al Golden. While I fully support the hire and the guy (I’m a Temple student and loved how he has turned the program around) there are some things you guys should know.
I am copying this from owlscoop.com message boards. That is the best board for any Temple info, basketball and football. These are not my words.
Cap is spot on with his assessment.
I thank Al Golden for resurrecting the Temple Owl football program from near extinction, which was a mighty feat in itself. He will always have my deepest appreciation for all that he has done for the Cherry & White. The program is now once again relevant, and poised for even greater success.
However here is what I have personally discerned from closely watching his 5 years as Head Coach.
1. He is a good recruiter, but a mediocre game day coach.
2. His clock management skills are poor, as is his ability to make adjustments at half time. He has been repeatedly out coached in the second half of numerous games by coaches who have lesser talent, but more savvy. Frank Solich, Ohio U’s HC, really has his number.
3. His offense is often one dimensional, and he seems to stick with a game plan well after it has proven not to be working. He has a plan A, but not plan B if plan A gets shattered due to injuries, weather, bad calls, etc.
4. He holds his players to very high educational, ethical, and moral standards; sometimes not to the betterment of the team. Various quality players have been suspended, benched, stuck in the dog house, etc for minor infractions which have definitely cost us wins.
5. He is secretive regarding players, schemes, offensive and defensive philosophy, and other aspects of the program.
6. He has not been able to develop a Quarterback, or even establish a cohesive offensive scheme.
7. He functioned as the Special Teams coach with very poor results.
8. His teams have only beaten 3 D-1 teams with winning records in the past 5 years. He has not won the MAC East Crown, let alone the MAC conference title.
9. He is an opportunist. He was at Temple not even a year when he was out interviewing for the UCLA job; then he was calling on Notre Dame, Tennessee, and countless other schools looking to move on. Do not be fooled, once he is at UM he will touting himself to SEC schools, and even the NFL!
Again, I thank Al Golden for all of his hard work at Temple and wish him the best at the University of Miami. However, he is not the Wunderking Coach he is touting himself to be.
With that being said I still think he ends up being a great coach. Some of those points are merely opinion and I don’t necessarily agree with. However, a lot of those things are true. His main knock with Temple fans is that he hasn’t beaten a above .500 MAC team. I question his ability to make adjustments after halftime. Offense is very one dimensional.

[CaneSawMassacre]

VA

I had that feeling to. Then we were making plays to start the game.

Those two fumbles killed us, the momentum, and these kids shut down.

I feel like we could have eeeked out a win despite our poor play-calling if we have those 3 special teams plays go our way, but I'm tired of questioning game planning on this team.

I can't believe that we couldn't get any pressure on Logan Thomas and force a turnover on a QB that had 8 the past 2 weeks.

That we couldn't get a run game going at all, except for one long run by Crawford.

That somehow Morris is still being asked to make throws that he can't. Plus, we are not getting the ball into space for guys to make plays.

The offense and defense just looked even more generic than before and I'm not sure what improves it...

We can talk about athletes but we matched up with them well across the field.

Our vaunted O-line couldn't get the push when it needed it. (What happens when your sets are obviously run/pass oriented).

I mean sh*t.. I can call run/pass every time we line up, so I'm not sure how the defense can't!

Then how do you not put crazy pressure on Logan Thomas and force him to make mistakes in the game? I mean crowd the line, take away the run, and let Bush, Jenkins, Howard, Gunter, and Craford run with their guys...?

I dunno..

On to Duke

[VA Cane]

CSM it was painful for all of us.....I had that bad feeling before the game. Started very promising and boom! it was over.

These things happen...to us a lot in the last 10 years. Got to keep playing got to get ready for Duke.

[CaneSawMassacre]

It felt like an aweful form of deja vu and torture. Like constantly watching your girl get **** by another guy on repeat.

Sick to your stomach type stuff.

[CaneSawMassacre]

I'm so bitter today...

I told myself we could beat FSU, even though deep down I didn't see it on the field yet.

I told myself afterward the talent at FSU is at another level to make myself feel better.

I told myself we should beat Vatech and prove that we are a Top 15 team, despite the obvious way this game set-up for a letdown. A letdown that this team over the last 10 years, has always provided me, without fail.

I told myself that everybody saying Logan Thomas was going to have a career day, was just being a troll. Trying to rile up anger, despite the fact that I've been watching the same non-aggressive defense play all year.

I told myself that Coley, as a first year play caller was figuring things out and adjusting to his talent. Losing his two of his best play-makers wouldn't help, but he could make adjustments and find more holes in the Vatech defense. Figure out how to play to Morris' strengths.

I told myself after the two disastrous fumbles that the Hurricanes could try and swing the momenentum. That they would fight back and steal a come they deserved to lose again for the fourth straight week.....

I've never stopped watching a Hurricane game before. I remember being a kid and watching Syracuse (ala Mcnabb) kill the Canes at the dome, like 63-0, and I think I cried. I never turned off the TV..

I stopped watching this game after the last Vatech touchdown..

Irony is that I turned to watch the Heat game and just saw the end when Wade completely jacked that whole game up...

WHY DOES IT HURT SO BAD WHEN IT IS JUST A GAME?????

I had a sh&t load of family members visiting from out of town. I couldn't enjoy any of it because I wanted to suplex my plasma on to my tile.

Sorry for the rant.. I'll always be a CANE but this one was painful.

[herbieibis]

Over on Canesport, Deno said the defense played the worst game of the year. I don't know what he has been watching but when is the last time we got back to back 3 and outs on defense? When's the last time we've held an opponent to under 50% on third down? When's the last time we made a stiff QB actually look like a stiff QB? When is the last time we had an all-American on defense or at least resembled one?

[Montreal-Cane]

Neither game swayed or lost ANY recruits. Nor did it keep any recruits from considering us in the future.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 11, 2013 at 09:04 AM

You are right! Moten will pick the U this wednesday.

[SOUP]

That's what she said!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 11, 2013 at 04:14 PM

I was waiting for that!

[Ohio_Cane]

Raize, I've never used one other than the iPad mini that we got, but I love it. Works easily for everything U described.

Also, my 2 year old daughter navigates it, so she shouldn't have a problem with the technology.

[raizecane]

OK.....quick question...

my mom who is 74 is tired of her PC and is looking for a tablet instead. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what kind she should get? Will mainly be usd for web, email, pictures, reading books.

Thanks

[Account Deleted]

Found it, ESPNU.....3:30pm

As for the polls, win out and we stay in the 15-20 range...

Lose to Duke and we'll be lucky to get a vote.

#7 to off the chart in three weeks. Yikes!!!

[Ohio_Cane]

Anything strong and wet!!!!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | November 11, 2013 at 04:10 PM
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That's what she said!

[raizecane]

Anything strong and wet!!!!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | November 11, 2013 at 04:10 PM

*******************************

Whats her name? LOL..........

[thirstybuzzardcane]

After watching this team, I need a drink to calm my nerves down!!!!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | November 11, 2013 at 01:42 PM

What is poison of preference dear Sir?

Posted by: SOUP | November 11, 2013 at 02:19 PM

Anything strong and wet!!!!

[canezilla]

That's what happens when U get yo azz beat.

Posted by: SOUP | November 11, 2013 at 03:28 PM
SIR WE WERE #7 IN THE LAND AND STILL GETTING NOON GAMES!!!LIKE I SAID BEFORE NOON GAMES SHOULD BE ILLEGAL IN MIAMI

[raizecane]

We are a 3 point favorite against Duke. Surprised honestly thought Duke would be a 10 point favorite. Go Canes! Beat Duke!

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | November 11, 2013 at 03:49 PM

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I am going to schedule a root canal during the game. I think it will be less painful.

[Terrance Sullivan]

We are a 3 point favorite against Duke. Surprised honestly thought Duke would be a 10 point favorite. Go Canes! Beat Duke!

[SOUP]

VACane...totally agree, UM belongs in the 23-25 range in the polls. Win out and then we can talk about moving on up to the 12-15 range. Otherwise we will drop like a rock.

[SOUP]

MIAMI LAST HOME GAME VS UVA WILL BE YET ANOTHER NOON GAME!!!!

Posted by: canezilla | November 11, 2013 at 03:11 PM

That's what happens when U get yo azz beat.

[SOUP]

ChiCane...2 more years, 5 total.

[Mia Chi 'Cane '98]

Soup... Is that 5 more years? Or 2 more giving Al 5 years total to fix this mess?

[SOUP]

Question is how long will the fans wait..

Posted by: longtimecanefan | November 11, 2013 at 02:57 PM

I already told U: 5 years (max).

[Account Deleted]

Will the Duke game be on TV?? Don't see a listing so far...

[canezilla]

MIAMI LAST HOME GAME VS UVA WILL BE YET ANOTHER NOON GAME!!!!

[VA Cane]

UM 23 or 24 in the polls......after the debacle Sat I think they are about right. We need to focus on Duke, get things in perspective. Get the fundamentals right.

[WWIN]

The man, are you blaming the bears or the humans?

[Account Deleted]

from what i see on Manny's twitter posts AG today says we're not back yet...still need players, no big depth changes, keep moving forward etc

My read, lowering expectations, but not necessarily wrong.

Losing is one thing, losing badly is another.

Question is how long will the fans wait..

[VA Cane]

Yes there is an aggression that has to be delivered from the coaches and the game plan to the players. You work hard each week to get them ready to play on game day. Part of it is motivating, doing things that drive them, pump them up, encourage them.....and then they must react to the stimuli. We seemed to have had that earlier and it looked to be growing, but I do not see it now. Each player and coach has to find it in themselves and respond to the enthusiasm drive grit and determination of others....pretty soon everybody is ready to seek and destroy.

[canezilla]

FREE OGV!!!

[THE MAN]

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | November 11, 2013 at 02:25 PM

Hahahahahaha! You are right about that, but my point is that's it's both parties at fault here (players and coaches). It's always skewed too heavily to one side all the time, but both have plenty of blame right now. The scheme def is terrible, but the players aren't helping out right now except for Perryman. He is the only animal out there right now.

[SOUP]

They start hunting for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches instead of salmon.

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | November 11, 2013 at 02:23 PM

Hey, I like Salmon but I LOVE PBJ sandwiches. I eat PBJ sandwiches. Is that a bad thing?

[WWIN]

I'm bout to email OBV right now to end all this nonsense

[WWIN]

Posted by: THE MAN | November 11, 2013 at 02:22 PM

The secondary is sent to the endzone on the snap of the ball, so how can he make tackles?????

[WWIN]

VA, you right, the same with my boys.

If you called a conservative game plan every game and played a SOFT zone constantly, how would you think that would affect them.

Why do they have signs that say DO NOT FEED THE BEARS? Bcuz they won't be able to hunt for their food like they use to. They start hunting for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches instead of salmon.

[THE MAN]

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | November 11, 2013 at 02:17 PM

I will definitely have to disagree with you about TH3. He is one of the main culprits of not laying the wood. He may miss the most tackles of anyone out there. I don't care if he can cover if it's man to man, but if his assignment is to come up and make a tackle, then he is failing at that because he has proven he can't do it very well. Really the whole secondary is guilty of this though...

[SOUP]

I don't think the admin allows the recruitment of "animals". IJS

Posted by: CGNC | November 11, 2013 at 02:06 PM

No but the E5 tailgate does!

Yeah, that and the West side. They got tons of animals ova theya. LOL

[SOUP]

Buzzard...we do not throw over the middle because of, well...wait for it, wait for it...U guessed it: #17.

[SOUP]

After watching this team, I need a drink to calm my nerves down!!!!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | November 11, 2013 at 01:42 PM

What is poison of preference dear Sir?

[WWIN]

^^^^^^^
Thanks for proving my point in all aspects! Lol

Sabin is satin and doesn't give a damn about ANYBODY, his team doesn't neither.

Butch Davis would try to kill anybody that lines up OPPOSITE of us, his team felt the same way

Larry Coker won with BUTCH DAVIS' team, what happened when Butch's players left? Did his team's still play like animals?

Now to Golden, name ONE Golden team that you seen play like animals? This is the same man that APOLOGIZED to a coach before the game. You do know why TH3 didn't get to play that much last year right? Bcuz he wanted to play aggressive and didn't believe in that soft BS D'no and Golden waa selling him.

[VA Cane]

WWIN,

I see it in my guys they are determined, aggressive, smart, want to win, hate losing, and have a passion for this game.

I do not or cannot coach those things BUT.....I can bring them out and magnify them. That is coaching. JMO

[CGNC]

I don't think the admin allows the recruitment of "animals". IJS

[VA Cane]

I could say a million things, but from my reading they have been said already. That was bad football all around. VT is not super talented, but they executed the fundamentals. Heck even on the kicks they tackled and recovered the ball. We simply did not execute, and the overall game plan did not look too good. That was bad football.

We need to learn from the mistakes and get ready for Duke. Focus on the task at hand, and while doing that focus on the fundamentals we fail to consistently fail to execute...like block and tackle. JMO

[THE MAN]

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | November 11, 2013 at 01:53 PM

That's an impossible question to answer. Like I said, from what I see these players play with no killer instinct or emotion and that is not something that is coachable. You either come to play and play hard or you don't and that has nothing to do with coaching. The ALA defense looks like animals out there. Do you really think that got that way from Saban? They most likely have been that way from pee wee. They are hungry and want to kill the ball carrier. Coker was "soft" too and he won a national championship becuase he had animals out there who played with passion and confidence, although with insanely awesome talent, but if your theory is correct then that team wouldn't have won anything. Just something to think about. Not saying you aren't right, but just somethin to talk about...

[WWIN]

Posted by: THE MAN | November 11, 2013 at 01:21 PM

You didn't answer my question, what would Sabin do with this same team?

The team takes on the persona of its coach, and Golden is as SOFT as they come!

What proof do you have of this other than our players?????

[thirstybuzzardcane]

I'm really getting tired of our predictable offense. Do we ever throw it on first down? And I am also getting sick of all these TE drag plays where we lose 4 yards on the play! After watching this team, I need a drink to calm my nerves down!!!!

[thirstybuzzardcane]

Defense side of the ball we need to play press man and blitz the shyt out of the QB. Who cares if we give up a big play here and there, when the QB has time to throw he will tear any team up. This soft zone shyt has to stop!!!!

[thirstybuzzardcane]

Is it me or does Coley/Morris not know what the middle of the field is? We never ever see quick slants or crossing routes in the middle of the field.....In the past, our TE were famous for that, man I miss the days of Shockey, Winslow, Olsen, Ect.!!!

[CGNC]

Canesteeler - LOL. I know. I reached that point in 2009. Every year before that I was flying here and there ($1,000 a pop) with my daughter to see crappy football. And then when the team would come up here driving 3+ hours to sit in cold, sometimes freezing rain to watch missed tackles. So I did not renew my Hurricane Club membership, and haven't been to a game since the bowl loss to Wisky. I love the canes and watch every game, but when you have little free time and money, you watch where you spend it.