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November 10, 2013

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thirstybuzzardcane

My guess is that we will be playing UCF in a bowl game, in Orlando. My guess is that they would be a sellout too!

THE MAN

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | November 11, 2013 at 01:15 PM

Not an excuse, but an observation. I don't care where the #1 high school team is located. That is not the discussion. It's where the Miami team is getting their players from. It's definitely coaching too, I'm not disputing that at all, but you have to look at the make up of the players Miami is getting. All I'm going is the product on the field and what I see compared to other teams, period. Miami plays with ZERO emotion and that is not coaching at all, but more their internal makeup. I don't care what scheme you run, but if you don't want to knock the crap out of the guy with the ball or go get the ball when it's in the air then you shouldn't be playing football and that's what I see...

WWIN

Posted by: THE MAN | November 11, 2013 at 12:21 PM

South Florida kids are better than ever, next excuse! What high school team is ranked #1 in the country? Where are they located?

Real question. If Sabin was coaching this same EXACT team do you think we would have the same results???????

USAFCane

The D is a shambles, I remember 1 year in the last decade when we could get to the QB, can't remeber the d-line coach but he wasn't here long and it wasn't Hurtt.

Just want to see the d-line of old when they were unstopable.

It isn't over reaction, it is a fact. ANy team with a semi decent QB is going to cause big problems.

dj moonbat

I still say give it five years until we will REALLY know if this is gonna work. But the blind faith and pure confidence in this coaching staff is now gone and the questioning period STARTS NOW!

Posted by: SOUP | November 11, 2013 at 12:16 PM


Big Al needs to have the courage to admit that sticking doggedly with the same approach will not suffice. The problems with this team won't just go away if we keep doing what we've been doing for a few more months, or a few more years.

It's easy to stay confident if you're too stupid to realize you might be wrong. Hopefully Al has the intellectual honesty to change course.

Texascane

From Mike Bakas@Scout.com

"The one thing I've noticed about this team, especially in this game, is how little excitement they seem to show on the football field -- especially on defense. It almost seems like the mentality is just don't make mistakes. I heard Mark D'Onofio before the game talk about how his defense wore down against FSU in the second half. He said a lot of it was because they were using the same regular guys in the second half of that game because "some younger guys made some mistakes early on in that game" and basically were removed from the rotation because of it. That's bothersome. Say what you want about Mark D'Onofrio and his schemes. Say what you want about the players in it. The thing that probably worries me most is it looks like his entire defensive unit is playing and just trying not to make mistakes. Maybe that's the new brand of Miami football -- it's just frustrating because we're seeing the product of what's being put on the field."

THE MAN

Posted by: dj moonbat | November 11, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Again, I will have to respectfully disagree. Those teams from Ala, Lou and Texas are playing at a high level with very few S. Fla kids sprinkled in. The times have changed I think. Athletes are EVERYWHERE now. What we need are SMART and HUNGRY players which we currently have very few or none. I don't give a flying flip how fast a guy can run. I he drops the ball or is constently out of position that speed is worthless. Give me ball players who know the game and understand angles and what is going on and I will take that guy all day.

SOUP

Derek Jones joined the Blue Devil coaching staff in January of 2008 and coaches the defensive backs. Jones also assists Zac Roper with Duke’s special teams units.

Under the guidance of Jones, Duke’s Ross Cockrell has emerged as one of the top cornerbacks in the nation. In 2012, Cockrell earned first team All-ACC and honorable mention All-America honors after posting 71 tackles, 4.0 tackles for loss, five interceptions and 13 pass breakups. The five interceptions were tops in the conference.

In addition to Cockrell, safety Walt Canty also garnered All-ACC accolades in 2012, receiving a second team citation. Canty paced the Blue Devils in tackles with 109 while closing an outstanding 49-game career that included 262 tackles, 11.5 tackles for loss, three interceptions, 10 pass breakups and five caused fumbles.

In 2011, safety Matt Daniels — who signed with the NFL’s St. Louis Rams in the spring 2012 — was a first team All-ACC and second team All-America pick after registering 126 tackles.

Cockrell earned Freshman All-America accolades in 2010 after leading the Blue Devils with three interceptions while ranking second among ACC rookies in total passes defended (10). Also, five different defensive backs registered interceptions for the Blue Devils last season, and Daniels ranked among the conference leaders in both tackles per game (6th; 7.8) and caused fumbles (2nd; 0.25).

One of Jones’ pupils, Leon Wright, concluded an outstanding career in 2009 by earning honorable mention All-ACC honors after totaling 58 tackles, five interceptions and eight pass breakups. Wright was instrumental in Duke’s 35-19 come-from-behind win at Army in week two of the 2009 season, returning two interceptions for touchdowns in the fourth quarter, and signed a free agent contract with the NFL’s New York Giants in the spring of 2010.

Another cornerback under Jones’ guidance, Chris Rwabukamba, was a fourth round draft selection of the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in the 2010 Canadian Football League Draft.

In 2008, the Blue Devil defense allowed 23.4 points per game – the lowest total in 20 seasons – and held three opponents to less than 10 points for the first time since 1976.

Prior to joining the Duke staff, Jones helped Memphis to a 7-6 overall record in 2007 – a five-game improvement in the win column from the previous year – with a berth in the New Orleans Bowl. One of Jones’ pupils, LaKeitharun Ford, was named co-MVP of the squad after posting 45 tackles and two interceptions.

In 2006, Jones coached the cornerbacks at Tulsa as the Hurricane defense ranked first in Conference USA in pass defense and total defense. Tulsa posted an 8-5 ledger that season and participated in the Armed Forces Bowl. Cornerback Nick Graham earned all-conference honors and is a current member of the Philadelphia Eagles.

SOUP

I still say give it five years until we will REALLY know if this is gonna work. But the blind faith and pure confidence in this coaching staff is now gone and the questioning period STARTS NOW!

To me here is the bottom line:

1. Finish strong at 10-2 and we will all shut up and be perfectly happy with our bowl game in Miami (I know, I know, BUT it is still possible), Orlando or Tampa.

2. Lose another game to a team we "should" beat (not even sure who those teams are anymore?) and there will be no holding back the sharks with that much blood in the water.

And I am NOT just sayin...

dj moonbat

I'll say one more thing too albiet a bit controversial... I don't think these kids from S. Florida are as good as they once were.

Posted by: THE MAN | November 11, 2013 at 11:17 AM


Nah, they're just being recruited by a lot more places than they used to. Back in the day, there was no way a S. Fl. kid would end up playing in Louisiana, or Texas, or Alabama.

SOUP

If you think what is bring said on the blog is negative or bad you should have been at the game on Saturday or listening to sports talk radio (WQAM) on Sunday. Multiply this X 10.

herbieibis

This has been a total fiasco.
Morris has played most of the season with a bum ankle.
Dropped passes.
Scott has been out most of the season.
Duke gone for the season.
Dorsett, will have missed half of the season.
We can't stop a third down conversion.
The Dt's can'get any pressure up the middle.
We can't tackle.
Our LB's can't cover a Rb Or A TE.
We can't convert on third down.
Our punter is our best player.
Turn overs galore.
Our coordinators have no clue.
We lack a go to WR, we lack a dominate DT, LB and we need a bigger RB. We need a smarter QB, who cares.
Our defense should have improved from last year, we had basically everyone back but the problem, aside from one game they have not gotten any better and our schemes haven't helped.
Shannon hardly ever blitzed. He had better talent and relied on the front 4 to put pressure on the QB. Mohammed might be our best player up front and he is a FR.
Most of these kids coming out of H.S. want to play right away and don't want to redshirt, which is stupid most of the time. They don't have the muscle or weight to handle the college game but in our case we have to play them. I guess that's a great selling point but most of them are not as good as they think they are when they come in.
I've seen DENO try just about everything, on defense but it ain't working and it ain't going to work because the talent level on that side of the ball is not there. The problem I have with him and Golden because Golden does have a hand with the defense is, The players they are bringing in or not bring in, most are average at best and they are not addressing the needs we have on the defensive front. Our previous 3 classes, twice we brought in no DT's. The first class he did add to oh by the way late recruits in Smith & King, who both have done basically nothing. then we bring in Moore, Ivery And Briscoe. Briscoe got flipped to offense and later transfer and they booted Ivery.Pierre was a De coming in, Porter has been hurt most of the time and Robinson plays like Smokey Robinson. This postion has been our albetros for years and how we can't seem to get talent at that position befuddles The Herb. Even I have said it will take 5 years but I'm not so sure it's not going to take 6 or more. We can't even develop depth at LB. It's been a revolving door for the last couple of years due to transfers, injury or players getting the boot or being moved to the position to help give the position depth. Just a pure cluster fuk!

SOUP

Sports IMO is about confidence and passion. You can prepare all you want, but if you don't show any effort or aggression or play smart you lose, period.

Posted by: THE MAN | November 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM

There IT is right there.

canesteeler

I agree.

THE MAN

Posted by: canesteeler | November 11, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I hope you are right, but I don't think so. Other teams are picking the guys they want and not relying heavily on S. Florida kids. I'm not saying don't recruit S. Florida. The fact remains that the ones Miami is getting aren't doing squat. Coaching (although horrible) will only take you so far. These kids have no heart out there except for maybe Perryman. Emotionless! Sports IMO is about confidence and passion. You can prepare all you want, but if you don't show any effort or aggression or play smart you lose, period.

canesteeler

Hassan thanks for serving and protecting our right to watch horrible football. No seriously, thanks to you and all of the men and women who have served and are currently serving.

canesteeler

The man I think you aren't correct because a boat load of SF kids are going to programs yearly. If the talent level had declined schools would not be living down here to recruit.

canesteeler

With all we have gone through the past 10 years (it has been a whole shit load) the one constant that made me keep spending money was the hope to see improvement from week to week. Finally I am tired, the talent level is nowhere close to where it needs to be but the coaching is fukking horrible. Go back and read Jason Whitlock's views on the hiring of AG. As much as I want to believe in AG his coaching staff has to be one of the worst in the country. Hassan many of us spend our entertainment dollars on the Canes and we are not getting our money's worth. I am not renewing my season tickets next year, however I will pick several games to attend. I am fed up, disappointed and plain sick of the shit we have in Coral Gables imitating a legendary program. Enough is enough, every since the beat down in Atlanta (LSU, I dropped $1,000 to take my children) we have seen nothing but garbage and if AG is not the man to make changes, I will! My ass will be home watching on TV until they earn my hard ass dollars back! BTW go back and watch how FSU attacked those wide ass splits of WF. Wf cut their splints down because the FSU players were properly coached how to attack 5 yard splits. AG take the rose colored glasses off and grow a set to make changes on the staff. BTW Kehoe needs to have his ass called on the carpet also!

CGNC

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Where are All-Americans, NFL stars on #UM D? Scouts say its made up mostly of spare parts, overachievers. Remember when NCAA mess ended

CGNC

Alright Canes (that includes Coaches) Let's end the season 10-2.

GO CANES

CGNC

LOL 360 - Blaming the fans for firings? Seriously?! Like DJ said, maybe the ones that right big checks.

CGNC

RCCF - LOL always good to see you post.

THE MAN

I'll say one more thing too albiet a bit controversial... I don't think these kids from S. Florida are as good as they once were. What I mean by that is they are still good athletically, but the rest of the country has caught up, but the difference is they play SMARTER and play with HEART and PASSION. These guys seem like they can give two sh!ts out there. Time and time again the secondary comes flying up only to stop right at the ball carrier and completely whiff. LAY THE WOOD!!!!!! I think it's a total philisophical issue. Between the schemes they run and players they are recruiting who are either not coachable or not buying into anything and it may be time to start looking elsewhere more often... Hate to say it, but Miami just plays dumb and has ZERO leadership anywhere on the field. That is a product of that can't be taught.

SOUP

Assistant DC at Duke:

Jim Collins was named to the Duke coaching staff in January of 2008 to begin his third stint with the Blue Devils. Collins was a graduate assistant with head coach Steve Sloan in 1983 and later served five campaigns from 1985-89 under both Sloan and Steve Spurrier. Collins serves as the Assistant Defensive Coordinator and coaches the Blue Devil linebackers.

Duke’s linebacking unit in 2012 featured a four-man rotation with senior Austin Gamble, sophomores C.J. France and David Helton and redshirt freshman Kyler Brown. The group combined for 203 tackles.

In 2011, Collins mentored a linebacking unit that featured zero seniors as sophomore Kelby Brown and Gamble ranked third and fifth on the team in tackles with 65 and 43 stops, respectfully. Brown also led the Blue Devils in tackles for loss despite missing two games due to injury.

Two of Collins’ pupils were recognized following the 2010 season as senior Abraham Kromah was an honorable mention All-ACC pick while Brown received Freshman All-America accolades. Kromah paced Duke in tackles with 120 stops — including a career-high 20 in the season finale against North Carolina — while Brown, who played in just nine contests, led the nation in fumble recoveries per game (0.44) and totaled 63 tackles.

In 2008 and 2009, Collins coached a pair of honor-earning linebackers in Michael Tauiliili and Vincent Rey. Tauiliili received All-America accolades in 2008 after leading the ACC in tackles with 140 while Rey was an All-ACC selection in 2009. Both players finished their respective careers ranking among the top tacklers in Duke history and signed free agent contracts with NFL clubs — Tauiliili with the Indianapolis Colts in 2009 and Rey with the Cincinnati Bengals in 2010.

A native of Greensboro, N.C., Collins began his coaching career at Page (N.C.) High School in 1974. He then served as the defensive coordinator at Lees-McRae Junior College in 1980 before coaching the defensive backs and outside linebackers at Appalachian State from 1981-82. After one season at Duke as a graduate assistant coach, he was the defensive coordinator at Jacksonville State in 1984.

In 1985, Collins returned to Durham for a five-year stint with the Blue Devils. Coaching Duke’s linebackers, he mentored Mike Junkin, a second team All-America pick in 1986 who became the school’s all-time leading tackler and was a first round selection of the Cleveland Browns in the 1987 NFL Draft. Collins served as Duke’s co-defensive coordinator in 1989 as the Blue Devils posted an 8-4 record, won seven straight games to close the regular season, captured the ACC championship and participated in the All American Bowl in Birmingham, Ala.

Collins then went with Spurrier to Florida, serving on the staff from 1990-01. During his tenure with the Gators, he worked with the linebackers, defensive ends and tight ends while also serving as recruiting coordinator as Florida compiled an overall record of 122-27-1. The successful 12-year run included the 1996 national championship with a 52-20 victory over Florida State in the Sugar Bowl as well as an 82-12 record in SEC regular season action, nine 10-win seasons, 10 campaigns ranked in the top 10 of the final Associated Press national poll, six SEC titles, 11 bowl game berths, 81 All-America citations and 13 first round NFL Draft selections.

In 2002-03, Collins worked with the NFL’s Washington Redskins, coaching the linebackers while assisting with special teams. He then Collins joined the staff at Marshall where he guided the defensive backs in 2004 before coordinating the defense for the next two years. In 2005, his Thundering Herd defensive unit led Conference USA in total defense while ranking 12th nationally against the pass.

During his college coaching career, Collins has participated in 14 bowl games: 1989 All American, 1992 Sugar, 1992 Gator, 1994 Sugar, 1995 Sugar, 1996 Fiesta, 1997 Sugar, 1998 Citrus, 1999 Orange, 2000 Citrus, 2001 Sugar, 2002 Orange, 2004 Fort Worth and 2012 Belk.

JameriCANE

How do U watch film of games for 9 weeks and NOT have some of this stuff corrected? I can understand if ONE player blows a coverage on ONE play, but when it looks like all 11 players have no idea where to be on EVERY play then that's an issue. IJS

Posted by: SOUP | November 11, 2013 at 10:13 AM

There it is right there...

SOUP

Duke Defensive Coordinator who held VT to 10 points in Blacksburg the week before the UM game at Sun Life:

Jim Knowles was added to the Blue Devil staff on December 28, 2009 and serves as the program’s Defensive Coordinator. He was the head coach at Cornell for six seasons (2004-09) and a member of David Cutcliffe’s staff at Ole Miss in 2003.

The Blue Devils had three members of its defensive unit earn All-ACC honors in 2012: defensive end Kenny Anunike (Honorable mention), safety Walt Canty (2nd team) and cornerback Ross Cockrell (1st team). Anunike led Duke in sacks for the second straight season, Canty paced the squad in tackles with 109 while Cockrell, an honorable mention All-America pick by Sports Illustrated, posted an ACC-best five interceptions on the year.

In 2011, the Duke defense was led by safety Matt Daniels, who earned first team All-ACC and second team All-America honors after posting 126 tackles. Daniels went on to sign a free agent contract with the NFL’s St. Louis Rams.

Knowles coached the Blue Devil safeties in 2010 as Daniels led the charge with 93 tackles, six tackles for loss, seven pass breakups, three caused fumbles and two fumble recoveries. His three forced fumbles ranked second in the ACC. In addition, Canty carded 63 tackles while Lee Butler chipped in 58 stops. All three safeties produced one interception apiece.

In addition, Knowles oversaw the mid-season transition of August Campbell from linebacker to safety and the redshirt freshman responded with a school record 95-yard fumble return for a touchdown against Boston College. The return broke the 54-year old record of 77 yards set by Ed Rushton against Pittsburgh in 1956.

A 1987 graduate of Cornell, Knowles spent nine years (1988-96) as an assistant coach at his alma mater, helping the Big Red to Ivy League championships in 1988 and 1990. In his first stint at Cornell, he coached defensive line (1988), running backs (1989-94) and linebackers (1995-96) while coordinating the staff’s recruiting efforts (1995-96). He was named Cornell’s 25th head football coach in January, 2004, and guided the Big Red to an overall ledger of 26-34 with a 16-26 record in Ivy League play.

In his first season at the helm of the Big Red program, Knowles turned a 1-9 squad that lost seven games by at least two touchdowns into a 4-6 unit that went 4-3 in conference play and lost all six contests by 10 points or less. Cornell’s 2004 squad became the first team in Ivy League history to go from zero conference wins to a winning league slate in just one season. Under Knowles, Cornell posted three consecutive seasons (2005-06-07) at .500 or better for the first time since 1990-91-92 and, in 2007, enjoyed a stretch of scoring 30 or more points in four straight games for the first time since 1921 while home attendance nearly doubled from the 2006 campaign.

In his lone season at Ole Miss, Knowles aided the Rebels to a 10-3 record, a share of the SEC Western Division championship and a 31-28 victory over Oklahoma State in the Cotton Bowl. Coaching the linebackers while serving as recruiting coordinator, Knowles helped the Ole Miss defense rank 14th in the nation in rushing defense while the Rebels held eight opponents -- including eventual national champion LSU -- to 21 or fewer points.

Knowles spent six seasons (1997-02) on the staff at Western Michigan University, serving the last two campaigns as defensive coordinator. In 2002, the Broncos led the Mid-American Conference and ranked 28th nationally in total defense and featured Jason Babin, the MAC Defensive Player of the Year and the school’s first NFL first round draft pick. In 2001, Western Michigan paced the conference and ranked 17th nationally in pass defense. Knowles’ tenure with the Broncos also included three shutouts during the 2000 season -- the school’s highest total since 1971 -- and the development of two-time All-MAC pick Dan Falcon (1997-98) and Ryan Bauer, who led the league in sacks in 1997.

THE MAN

It's been an epic fail on both sides of the ball the last few weeks. The problems on D are obvious, but it really is astounding that they don't change things up given the results. That's what's maddening to me. The offensive problems just compound the defensive problems. Going 3 and out all game is unacceptable. Yeah those long 2 TD are awesome, but again it puts the defense right back out of the field. MIAMI NEEDS TO LEARN TO SUSTAIN DRIVES WITH A RUNNING GAME AND SHORT TO INTERMEDIATE PASSING GAME. They need to take shots on occassion, not every f-ing series. This sh!t is embarrassing! They need to put in Ryan Williams because I gaurantee you the philosphy will change and he will get the ball in the play makers hands quickly and let them make the plays.

JameriCANE

I had a bad feeling all day before this game. I did not see any reports on how well practices were going all week. I heard it was going to rain. And then, as I got to Joe Robbie's parking lot...I saw we got knew "alternate" uniforms. It was the kiss of death. Historically, whenever the team gets alternate uniforms we have lost. The exception was in 2009 when we beat USF, however we wore the same uniform against Wisconsin in the Citrus Bowl and still lost. I hope to never see another alternate uniform again. It was a long ride home to Orlando.

P.S., Did anyone else listen to Duane Starks on 560 AM, WQAM after the game? Dude was going off on the play calling and making perfect sense.

RCCF

Im not much of the Negative Nancy and most know how I feel about Miami Fans as a whole...I will say Morris needs to sit honestly kid U are hurting the team more than helping and that became painfully honest once I saw NFL DaBEARS riding Jay Cutler when Josh McNown was CLEARLY the healthy BETTER choice but because Jay wanted to prove to fans he had heart daBEARS had to take an a L....same with the U Stephen is proving he is tough but NOBODY cares...We wanna win dude be tough on the sideline and let Ryan Williams HEALTHY help win...Also DB coach needs to be fired 100% at NO point in time should DB's be 10-15yds off whn all tht is needed is 5 for a 1st this happened ALLLLLLLLLLLLL NIGHT UGH DUDE IS STUPID.. and DNo...NoD well buddy U tried but the truth is U sir are not relentless and U just dont have that eye....here is the door Use It...Bye

2 Flat Tires but Still Heading to the ACC Championship Game.. 12% Always RCCF

BEERicane

Barrow bites his tongue in frustration. Foster laughs. Shannon feels vindicated.

Texascane

As a side note, I don't think it's always "one player not filling his gap or freelancing". I think we have some guys on defense who know that they are getting their butts handed to them even when they do everything right because the scheme is wrong...and they're tired of it.

"Trusting the process" is successful only if "the process" works.

SOUP

Tex...I got U now. Behind the scenes I often wonder what Michael Barrow, Bud Foster, other DCs and even Randy Shannon think about this mess that is the UM defense?

Texascane

How do U watch film of games for 9 weeks and NOT have some of this stuff corrected? I can understand if ONE player blows a coverage on ONE play, but when it looks like all 11 players have no idea where to be on EVERY play then that's an issue. IJS

Posted by: SOUP | November 11, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Soup,

What I was referring to is that despite what some on here say, we are stuck with this scheme on defense. Unlike Dallas last night where they have a good scheme but no players, we have players but a bad scheme. You can't just wave a wand and suddenly change your defense scheme like you can with offensive play calling.

How bad is it? Golden said in his presser yesterday that he was glad that Kacy Rodgers would be back this week to get them lined up correctly...what kind of admission is that 9 weeks into the season? Kacy Rodgers, for Pete's Sake!!!!!!!!

SOUP

I HAVE ALL MY RECEIPTS FOR SATURDAY WHO DO TURN THIS INTO FOR MY REFUND

Posted by: canezilla | November 11, 2013 at 06:26 AM

Please submit receipts for a full refund to:

University of Miami Athletic Department
5821 San Amaro Drive
Coral Gables, FL 33146

canezilla

Can I come watch you work for a week and critique your every move? I want to make sure you're a champion. Lol

Posted by: 360Cane | November 11, 2013 at 08:07 AM
AS LONG AS U PAY 150$ FOR 3 TICKETS 50$IN GAS 150$ IN FOOD AND GIVE ME BACK 7 HOURS I COULD OF SPENT WITH MY 2 YEAR THEN SURE COME WATCH ME..IF U CANT THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP

SOUP

Much worse than I thought...months of coaching needed to fix an entire unit.

Posted by: Texascane | November 11, 2013 at 09:45 AM

How do U watch film of games for 9 weeks and NOT have some of this stuff corrected? I can understand if ONE player blows a coverage on ONE play, but when it looks like all 11 players have no idea where to be on EVERY play then that's an issue. IJS

Texascane

After the game, my major concern was/is that Miami's problem is the entire defense.

If it was Morris, as I had thought after Wake and UNC, then you can fix a player. In the VT game, Morris was 16 for 29 for 324 yards and 2 TD's...no TO's (with some drops).

How do you replace/change an entire defense? They have coached this scheme for almost three years now and we are stuck. Much worse than I thought...months of coaching needed to fix an entire unit.

USAFCane

Haven't read any posts. Beyond disappointed, I knew we were not great but my hopes were crushed again by that performance.

Inept performance, worst under AG IMO.

No leadership that I saw

Officially put me on the No'D has to go list.

Put Coley on the coaching hot seat watch list

Receivers, how about catching a ball?

this season could get ugly if that is what we have to look forward without Duke.


SOUP

Yeah, sorry about that SOUP. That was me. EPIC FAIL on my end. Lol!

Posted by: BEERicane | November 11, 2013 at 08:59 AM

No U are cool. Anybody who has "BEER" in their blog name IS king of the universe!

SOUP

360...I will admit that I thought that the defense had improved this year at least against weaker competition and until we faced better competition in FSU and VT. Let's wait until the end of the season and see where we rank then. That will be a better stat to judge them on.

But being ranked #54 in D does not excuse or explain what happened at Sun Life on saturday vs VT. Agree?

dj moonbat

That's pretty impressive considering we have the same players...

Posted by: 360Cane | November 11, 2013 at 09:04 AM


Srsly?

Ohio_Cane

Thought we would be able to flip Cook based on what the gaytors did yesterday but I guess they'll keep him based on what we did yesterday...smh

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville | November 11, 2013 at 01:13 AM
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Neither game swayed or lost ANY recruits. Nor did it keep any recruits from considering us in the future.

dj moonbat

As they say, it all starts with controlling the line of scrimmage and getting pressure up front. To that end we have repeatedly failed miserably. These DLs are terrible at every single position and the defensive scheme does nothing to account for the biggest deficiency on the team.

Posted by: BEERicane | November 11, 2013 at 08:56 AM


Right. You can't coach as if your scheme is independent of your players. This scheme puts a lot of pressure on a line that just can't take it.

SOUP

But they don't really know what it takes or they'd be submitting resumes to bring their team to prominence.

Posted by: 360Cane | November 11, 2013 at 08:18 AM

So then this collective "They" would include U also as a fan, right? Or is it just "those other people"? No it IS you too, correct?

So admittedly YOU don't know what it takes yet YOU want to tell everyone else that they are ALL collectively wrong and have no clue about football and winning simple because none of "them" are submitting resumes for a coaching position at UM?

Seriously? Oh the absurdity of it all!

dj moonbat

I blame fans for early firings and players let go. I mean, wasn't it fans that brought Tim Tebow to the NFL as a QB?

Posted by: 360Cane | November 11, 2013 at 08:18 AM


I'm pretty sure it was the NFL Draft.

The only fans who get college coaches fired are the ones who write big checks. Complaining on a blog does not do the trick.

People are venting because there's no good reason for us to be blowing big games to beatable opponents in the same ways we were losing a year and a half ago. I don't think it makes us the 'worst fans in the world' to say we want this team to stop sucking, and we want it BEFORE the loss to Virginia Tech.

None of you people owe Al Golden anything.

BEERicane

I must have missed that day where someone made U king of the universe and the only person with a valid opinion that counts?

Posted by: SOUP | November 11, 2013 at 08:54 AM

Yeah, sorry about that SOUP. That was me. EPIC FAIL on my end. Lol!

BEERicane

As they say, it all starts with controlling the line of scrimmage and getting pressure up front. To that end we have repeatedly failed miserably. These DLs are terrible at every single position and the defensive scheme does nothing to account for the biggest deficiency on the team.

SOUP

360...if U don't like the fans having an opinion other than your own then why are U on a sports blog where DIVERSITY of opinion is the key ingredient of success?

Or maybe you could go invest your $$$ and time into your very own blog where everyone could have the same opinion as your own and be happy?

Most of all how is it that U are allowed to have an opinion about other bloggers opinions but fans are NOT allowed to have different opinions about the team or the coaches?

I must have missed that day where someone made U king of the universe and the only person with a valid opinion that counts?

U arrogant azzhole. U get to have your opinion but nobody else is entitled to their own? Too harsh? Sorry but it is the truth, and I'm just having fun with it. Don't be sensitive! :-)

Account Deleted

I think Duke just scored on another wide open crossing route followed by 2 or 3 missed tackles.....or is it just a recurring bad dream....

360Cane

WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CRITISIZE THE COACHING? IF I DID WHAT D'NO DID AT MY JOB I WOULD'NT HAVE A JOB!!! WE SPEND ALOT OF TIME AND MONEY ON THIS TEAM.GOING TO AWAY GAMES AND GAS,FOOD,TICKETS SO YEA I THINK WE DO HAVE A SAY..IJS

Posted by: canezilla | November 11, 2013 at 07:42 AM

Can I come watch you work for a week and critique your every move? I want to make sure you're a champion. Lol

SOUP

Just remember, we have a DB playing RB and a QB playing S. This really isn't a football team. It's a sandlot, hurry and fill the gaps team. But you know, we should be 9-0 with a 74 man roster.

Posted by: 360Cane | November 11, 2013 at 07:45 AM

Look another "Excuses R Us" franchisee!

Every team in college football has players that come in from HS playing one position and then switch to another position at some time in their career, it is VERY common.

In fact Golden even makes it a point to recruit players who can play MORE than one position so he has flexibility with the roster.

Surely U can do better than that excuse? But please keep them coming, I need them for opening a branch store here in Winter Haven.

360Cane

And to be honest, it's really starting to look like the D is reverting back to freelance mode when we don't have any Sean Taylors.

Every player knows, first guy hits and stands him up while the rest come in for the strip. We were missing that first part and is why we had so many missed tackles.

SOUP

Posted by: Hassan | November 11, 2013 at 07:03 AM

Yeah, blame the FANS for the product on the field. That makes sense.

Don't get it twisted brother, we ALL know that the team is better than before Golden took over it is just not where it is supposed to be 9 games into the third season. That is all I am saying. I am not calling for anyone's job but c'mon man watch the game and U can see what needs to change.

Even an 11 year old kid sitting in the last row of the upperdeck in a pouring rain under the scoreboard can see it.

Surely U can see it too?

360Cane

Just remember, we have a DB playing RB and a QB playing S. This really isn't a football team. It's a sandlot, hurry and fill the gaps team. But you know, we should be 9-0 with a 74 man roster.

Shayon Green does not have the wheels to cover a drag. He is not a sideline to sideline mover and shaker.

Are we just watching the gains and conversions of VT or are we actually seeing which players on our team aren't getting the job done?

It's just too easy to sit back and blame coaches. I want hard facts. Well, thought out analysis. Not people saying the coaches aren't putting the players in position to succeed because, wait for it, they ARE!!! It turned into a strip the ball fest, and removed itself from being a gang tackling fest.

Our sole first rounder was injured, remember? smh about being the only firsty on this team in a very long time.

There won't be any coaching changes so shut up already. We hear you. Let's move on...

CGNC

Hassan, to your point, that is how we beat NC and Wake. But something's gotta give. Fans have PTSD. I want the lost decade to be over.

CGNC

To all the veterans out there, thank you.

Enjoy your day

canezilla

Miami has some of the worst fans I have seen in Sports.

1. We can critisize but even championship teams have problems and issues. We have a long ways to go recruiting wise to shore up areas. Coaches look good with great talent.
???? WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CRITISIZE THE COACHING? IF I DID WHAT D'NO DID AT MY JOB I WOULD'NT HAVE A JOB!!! WE SPEND ALOT OF TIME AND MONEY ON THIS TEAM.GOING TO AWAY GAMES AND GAS,FOOD,TICKETS SO YEA I THINK WE DO HAVE A SAY..IJS

Hassan

Miami has some of the worst fans I have seen in Sports.

1. We can critisize but even championship teams have problems and issues. We have a long ways to go recruiting wise to shore up areas. Coaches look good with great talent.

2. Our D sucks because both the scheme and some of the players freelance, that is why a lesser talented Highsmith can get in the game because he sucks but sticks to the gameplan.

3. Coach Golden is not perfect but he is making our program better. The lack of a nutrition plan, the poor conditioning of the team really set us back, it takes years to get guys where you need them. We have guys like Chickillo that would be light years better had he not been forced to play and been able to redshirt and develop. The VT's of the world are good because the school and fans are patient, Beamer's teams have lost badly but people are not calling for Bud Foster's head. His guys Redshirt and get better, Even Wake Forest Redshirt their guys. On our team we have forced to play guys that was not ready.

4. Stay the course, Al Golden has a plan, the recruiting ties he has reestablished are huge, parents trust Al, you do not have to trust his Defensive system but as long as SLFA parents and coaches trust him the talent we bring in here will go a long way towards winning. Talent wins games over schemes way too often. Miami was ALWAYS long on talent and short on schemes. Even our National Title years our Defense was very simplistic and we was out coached many times, but we almost always won on out talenting other teams.

We will increase our talent this year, starting with this recruiting class the DL guys we are bringing in will help, We will get better coaching one way or another but talent is what is going to solve this problem more then anything. Moten will announce UM today and we will have an amazing DL class coming in. Kehoe has done a good job this year, considering Morris has sucked and is not mobile and he holds the ball too long and never throws it away, our sack count is low. Our running game has done well with what we had, Duke is a smaller back and With Morris not playing well it is hard ot block 11 guys knowing it is a run like the other nite with only 5 OL. Please see the other side of the coin, we have our Worts but everyteam does and no one can question we ar ebringing in elite talent now that is on par with FSU and Bama's starting with this class. We will get better based on that alone.

canezilla

I HAVE ALL MY RECEIPTS FOR SATURDAY WHO DO TURN THIS INTO FOR MY REFUND

canezilla



Terrance...I'm down with that. If they play in Miami, Orlando or Tampa I'll still go. If not, count me out.

Posted by: SOUP | November 10, 2013 at 11:39 PM
PLAY IN MIAMI!!!! HAHAHAHAHA THANKS I NEEDED THAT LAUGH

WWIN

^^^^^
Thought we would be able to flip Cook based on what the gaytors did yesterday but I guess they'll keep him based on what we did yesterday...smh

Montreal-Cane

Miami Central 28, Davie University School 3

Running game powers Miami Central past University School

Central’s Dalvin Cook (136 yards) and Joseph Yearby (177 yards) led a running attack that totaled 317 yards against University.

We need both!

WWIN

^^^^^^^^^
Fisch wuznt good neither, he did pretty good with the qb's tho.

Montreal-Cane

Jedd Fisch please come back after you get fired from the Jags...Play calling is so predictable. We also need a very good QB coach for the Young men coming up...

Terrance Sullivan

Terrance...I'm down with that. If they play in Miami, Orlando or Tampa I'll still go. If not, count me out.

Posted by: SOUP | November 10, 2013 at 11:39 PM
Sounds good to me!

SOUP

Terrance...I'm down with that. If they play in Miami, Orlando or Tampa I'll still go. If not, count me out.

Terrance Sullivan

I have some more stories to tell about our West end zone adventure early in the third quarter but I am tired and will save that one for tomorrow. Trust me U will not believe that one either.

Posted by: SOUP | November 10, 2013 at 11:26 PM
Cant wait to hear It. Somehow I am actually want us to play in the Russell Athletic Bowl in Orlando on December 28th. I could use hanging in O-Town for a couple of days and Soup my man U deserve a game where U dont even have to leave home to see our Canes!

Terrance Sullivan

Finally, as we made our way under the EEZ scoreboard to attempt one last time to find some small patch of semi-dry real estate came the comment of the night. But I'll have to let Soup tell that story.

Posted by: KYcane | November 10, 2013 at 10:28 PM

OK, so this is a true story, swear to God:

We moved our seats like 5-6 times during the game looking for anywhere to try to stay dry or find some luck. Those who have attended games with me know that whenever UM is not doing well I move my seat in search of some positive mojo. During this game needless to say we moved a LOT.

Near the end of the game in the early fourth quarter we finally moved to this little cubby hole underneath the East endzone scoreboard to try to stay dry and stay out of the cool wind.

When we got there there was a father with his two young sons. As we stood there watching the end of the debacle and still hoping for a miracle one of the young boys says this out loud about the UM offense to his father:

"Why do they just keep running the same plays?"

I look at KYCane and just laughed because I have been saying the same thing all game and calling the plays out loud most of the game.

I ask the youngster: "How old are U?"

He says: "Eleven".

I say: "U are wiser than your age."

We walked away shaking our heads as an innocent 11 year old boy (he looked maybe all of 9?) who clearly had not yet reached puberty or even kissed a girl in his life just called the UM offensive playbook.

Can U just imagine what opposing defesnive coordinators say when watching film?

Posted by: SOUP | November 10, 2013 at 11:21 PM
Wow 2 weeks in a row where fans are calling out the plays before they happen. Smart young kid.

SOUP

I have some more stories to tell about our West end zone adventure early in the third quarter but I am tired and will save that one for tomorrow. Trust me U will not believe that one either.

SOUP

Finally, as we made our way under the EEZ scoreboard to attempt one last time to find some small patch of semi-dry real estate came the comment of the night. But I'll have to let Soup tell that story.

Posted by: KYcane | November 10, 2013 at 10:28 PM

OK, so this is a true story, swear to God:

We moved our seats like 5-6 times during the game looking for anywhere to try to stay dry or find some luck. Those who have attended games with me know that whenever UM is not doing well I move my seat in search of some positive mojo. During this game needless to say we moved a LOT.

Near the end of the game in the early fourth quarter we finally moved to this little cubby hole underneath the East endzone scoreboard to try to stay dry and stay out of the cool wind.

When we got there there was a father with his two young sons. As we stood there watching the end of the debacle and still hoping for a miracle one of the young boys says this out loud about the UM offense to his father:

"Why do they just keep running the same plays?"

I look at KYCane and just laughed because I have been saying the same thing all game and calling the plays out loud most of the game.

I ask the youngster: "How old are U?"

He says: "Eleven".

I say: "U are wiser than your age."

We walked away shaking our heads as an innocent 11 year old boy (he looked maybe all of 9?) who clearly had not yet reached puberty or even kissed a girl in his life just called the UM offensive playbook.

Can U just imagine what opposing defesnive coordinators say when watching film?

BEERicane

Job Posting: football coaches and coordinators.
Location : Miami/Coral Gables
Position: defensive coordinator
Position: DB coach
Position: OL coach

Please submit resume to OGV

Montreal-Cane

Where is OGV when you need him...Duke has a better offense than VT and they play 2 QBS so DNO will go crazy...

BEERicane

Let's bring OGV back (though we disagree, I really like that guy) to hear his praises about Coach L. No matter what happens on the football field, nothin will be a worse loss than what happened vs St Francis. I could use a good laugh about Coach L/The bball team right about now.

j.w.

24 hours later and I'm still astounded by what I saw. I can't add anything to what's already been said, just stunned that we could look so bad.

dj moonbat

I think the talent on the DL is fine. Its the scheme that sucks. Engage and shed looks like garbage. Instead, attack a gap and let the LBs clean up what's left over.

Posted by: The Dude | November 10, 2013 at 09:13 PM


You are mistaken about the DL. The problem is that regardless of whether the scheme calls for engage and shed, they engage, and stay engaged. They are neither particularly strong nor fast. They are not even an average DL.

Also, D'No's scheme is bad.

Since Coley is new, and tried to integrate Fisch stuff in his playbook for the purpose of easier transition, I won't denigrate Coley's scheme, except to say that if he has the same scheme NEXT season, he's too dim-witted to keep his job.

KYcane

Been trying to find the words all day to describe the game I saw last night.

First off, props to Soup for being a world class host that brought his "A" game despite the weather & this football team doing its best to throw him off.

Reading through this morning's posts I saw a lot of the comments mirrored our conversation as we sat there imitating 2 drowned rats.

Logan Thomas has resurrected his Heisman campaign.

Doesn't Miami understand the definition of insanity?

We hate this come to the line, stop, backup for the play check and snap the ball a count after ass tap.

Holy crap there is no one around that receiver! again!

The coaching staff hasn't made the first adjustment. We are tipping off our plays.

Wonder if OGV has posted tonight?

I can't count the times we just turned to each other with this WTF look. Hell Laz had more focus pouring the Patron than the Hurricane sidelines.

Finally, as we made our way under the EEZ scoreboard to attempt one last time to find some small patch of semi-dry real estate came the comment of the night. But I'll have to let Soup tell that story.

Terrance Sullivan

Great points ^^^^^^^.

CaneRock

^^^^^^^^^^And even if you got the coverages mixed up, how much talent do you need, to yell CROSSER! CROSSER! CROSSER!, to the next man over! SHEEZ!

CaneRock

POINT BLANK!, this loss is on STs, and the defensive players. 28 points was enough to win that game last night. Like D'Onofrio alluded to, HOWDAFUQ! do you NOT! cover your MAN!, in MAAAAAAN! coverage!

And I'ma keep it real, both those crossing routes that went for TDs, were on Gunter! Love the kid, but He needs to keep His head in the game.

mi@mic@ne

I grew up watching the Canes play the d. If you were a d end you only had one option... get around the edge and blow up the qb.. d line were to get into the gap and penetrate into the back field to disrupt the hand off. All game long our guys were not allowed to give an inch from side line to side line. Our corners on the line of scrimmage man on man ..they knew the interior of the d was gonna force the qb to throw quickly... we had the speed and athletes and everyone got to the ball.

Account Deleted

we had net 28 yds rushing last night. With 35 yds coming on one play by crawford (who on his other 9 carries gained 2, yes only 2, yds). Complete OL and OC failure in a bad weather game. VT, 183 yds on the ground....

VT 8-14 on 3rd down...UM 3 for 12...

VT had 11 penalties....and still won easily.

The Dude

I think the talent on the DL is fine. Its the scheme that sucks. Engage and shed looks like garbage. Instead, attack a gap and let the LBs clean up what's left over.

The Dude

Exactly roachcane77, I'm sitting at home calling plays as VT is running them. Me. Embarassing. The beauty for OCs is that 3rd down is the gravy down. Just run a WR in front of that soft @ss cushion, wait til he clears the last LB and throw, guaranteed first down. 1st and 2nd down are just downs to call what ever you want. D'No is the worst coordinator in all of football. Al Golden is a fool for running this defense. Its beaten, you can't coach or team your way out of a failed system. He doesn't want to fire D'No because he can't blame the guy, after all he's just doing what he's told.

Rand Stevens

"Watching the post game interview last night AG looked beaten and lost."

I think Golden knows he needs to make major changes starting with the DC. He's not going to call him out in public.

roachcane77

I think, (that after watching AG's post game interview), that he JUST doesn't get it.

He talks about the 2/3 turnovers being the BIG problem.

Other than the knee down "punt" turnover on our own 17 yd line, the "other" two ST fumbles were NOT deep in our own territory. YES, they were turnovers, but VT was allowed to march down the field and turn those into 14 points.

On some of the 3rd down plays we had no defenders even in the picture with their backs or receivers. That's 10-20 yards of OPEN SPACE… Ridiculous!

I can't believe he puts this on the players… THEY ARE NOT BEING TAUGHT, AND/OR PUT INTO THE PROPER POSITIONS!

Anyone on this blog could call the plays that would befuddle and exploit our D… It's no secret, it happens over and over and over...

Duke, Virginia, and Pitt will call those same plays and move down the field on us at will…

Rand Stevens

We have wery little talent on DL. Period. They suck. OUr QB is a bonehead and brings the entire offense, especially his OL because of no pocket sense, down with him.

THat doesnt excuse last nights shyt show.

dj moonbat

The problem is that "The Process" is clearly flawed.

Posted by: SOUP | November 10, 2013 at 08:39 PM


Yeah. I suspended my normal cynicism because of the Florida win, which in our rearview mirror isn't looking like much of a big deal, with Florida 4-5 after losing to mighty Vanderbilt. Oops.

At this point the only halfway legit win on Miami's record is Georgia Tech. Our 2.75 seasons of trusting the Tie should be showing better results than that.

herbieibis

The old adage about leading a horse to water but you can't make them drink, we must have a thirsty bunch on defense because obiviously, they aren't buying what Golden & DeNo are selling or they are just plain stupid. The other problem is the mediocre QB play we've had for 8 years. We haven't any consistency from any of them, not Wright, Freeman, Jaboney, Marve & now Morris. We haven't had any prime time Dt's, in over 10 years and our LB's ain't much better. Now tack on a puss defensive coordinator and his prevent defensive schemes and what do you have? Stop recruiting the dam supposed jewels of your camps, grow some dam balls and don't be afraid to recruit the big dogs. Watch Bama play DeNo and U too AL or better yet, beg Saban to allow you to come down and watch how defense is played and this is not the best defensive team Bama has had, and maybe learn something that can help U scheme a game against a bunch of nobodies because that's what's in the ACC, minus FSU & Clemson, no football playing nobodies. Just imagine how bad it would be if we played against Manzel, he'd have 500yds of total O against us himself. Go get me 2 dam DT's that can F ing play some road grading football and add 2 LB's that are head hunters and our problems we'll be solved, I promise U Canespacers, that's all we need. With the veterans we had coming back on Defense, I could see us giving up 350 to 375 a game in total yardage because that's the talent we have but to get gutted, time and time again, is restinkingdiculous. I'll bet the opposing teams 3RD down conversions against us is 75%, this season. We have to be in the bottom o0f the barrel in that category.

Montreal-Cane

From the Herald...good points...

Paul Williams DB coach needs to go today, another Temple coach Golden brought with him. LB play is result of players leaving before season started Paul etc..,DL is being taught to contain and not pressure. Bottom line Athletic director has to tell Golden get rid of DNO or leave. I like Golden, good person good recruiter good head coach but he's delegating authority to the wrong coaches(DNO) and that's making him look bad. Give Coley a break this year since he went with old system to help make it easier on the players. But if Jedd Fisch is available i would consider taking him back.

Account Deleted

Watching the post game interview last night AG looked beaten and lost. He made no statement from what I read and just took questions. Most of the time it seemed he just looked down and answered with the usual responses. NO'd kept his head up, but had no answers at all except to blame execution and tackling. Funny, aren't those things he's supposed to teach?

If we can give AG some credit then let's hope he realizes what a failure last nights game was, and the impact long term on the season and future.

The problem is I'm no longer sure he knows what to do about it. Three weeks ago I wasn't sure we'd turned the corner. Now I'm certain we have not......

Jramos

We have gone back instead of forward these last two games. The game against FSU i can swallow but this game......is unacceptable!!!

Jramos

Lost a little hope yesterday,was devastated last night. Woke up today and thought.... "when was the last time the Canes won an important game like this...Sadly I can't recall. Is been dejavu for over 8 yrs now. Sadly same O Canes!!!! Tired of the B.S.

canezilla

THOUGHT I WOULD NEVER SEE THE DAY THAT THE MIAMI HURRICANES HAVE A CHANCE TO LOSE TO DUKE!!..I WANT TO BE GOOD AGAIN. WE ARE A JOKE RIGHT NOW

Terrance Sullivan

The Process is clearly flawed and needs to be fixed.

SOUP

The problem is that "The Process" is clearly flawed.

dj moonbat

1. The tide has turned.
2. The blood is in the water.
3. The angst and profanity is off the charts.

Posted by: SOUP | November 10, 2013 at 08:18 PM


Well, it's a shame it had to come to that. Al needs to understand, though, that when we lose the same way, again and again, it's just not OK. As long as we were getting better, and only losing to obviously stellar teams like FSU, I was willing to trust The Process.

Now, not so much.

Account Deleted

if U were at the game last night, in the cold, misty rain with the fans that showed up, then U would already know this:

1. The tide has turned.
2. The blood is in the water.
3. The angst and profanity is off the charts.

Posted by: SOUP | November 10, 2013 at 08:18 PM

This is what becomes the beginning of the end and the break down of the team.

Winning out now becomes a must, another embarrassing loss and the sharks will start to circle. With that players will quit and the season will tank. Probably a good thing we're on the road this week. If we were at home and lost it would be even worse.

Canesteeler

Raizecane ditto for me. Matter of fact I am still pissed today!

SOUP

Moonbat...if U were at the game last night, in the cold, misty rain with the fans that showed up, then U would already know this:

1. The tide has turned.
2. The blood is in the water.
3. The angst and profanity is off the charts.

dj moonbat

Well, the thing is, being ultra-down on Golden doesn't really help anything. It just bums OGV et al. out all the time.

Being right isn't always a whole lot of fun.

Golden's a smart guy, I think. But he seems to think that staying positive and moving forward trumps everything, including his team/staff's ongoing pattern of playing bad football.

Hopefully, somebody can impress upon him that losing a game like this one, to that particular team, is not just another step in The Process. There's got to be accountability. If Golden won't make sure there is some real change, then at some point after the team has continued to suck for a couple years, the AD will do something.

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