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November 16, 2013

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SOUP

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raizecane

The 2014 class is still hurt by the shapiroShalalaNCAA monster and still doesn't have enough good Defensive Linemen. Patience Canes Fans!This isn't the early 80's any more.

Posted by: Moldy Caves | November 16, 2013 at 09:46 PM

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Patience my ass….I am not asking for a NC but we have not even made it to the ACCCG….enough is enough…..Golden needs to practice these guys until they all Duke….I mean Puke (see what I did there).

Moldy Caves

I read the opening salvo that seemed to be pretty much anti Al Golden. Difficult to believe that I read something like that here.

Anyway, I'm gonna stay 100% behind Al Golden. The one thing that keeps me solidly allied to him is that every recruiting class that he has participated in we have had the Shapiro Shalalagate hanging over our heads and many a coach has used that to their advantage by negative recruiting. No where has it hurt us more than on the defensive line and defense as a whole.
There are some things Golden may be culpable for IMO - electing to play a hurt Morris when Ryan Williams had already proven he was capable of starting. Maybe he thought he was helping Morris but just the opposite happened as Morris' stock fell off markedly.

The 2014 class is still hurt by the shapiroShalalaNCAA monster and still doesn't have enough good Defensive Linemen. Patience Canes Fans!This isn't the early 80's any more.

Ohio_Cane

Put me on board.

Fire No'D....

raizecane

The only reason I am not switching my favorite team from Miami to Alabama is because bama doesn't have a blog like this. So for that, I will suffer for the rest of the year….

PS - D'no can lick my sack…..because his defense doesn't know how to get one. (Thats the Hennessy talking)

RARA

Here is the deal with the defense. Once I explain this I will shed light into Golden's internal dilemma. Al Golden wants to run a 3-4 read and react defense. When Golden got here he tried to run it in year one but the talent was so bare there was no way they could run it (fyi many teams NFL and college don't have the personnel to run it). So in year 2 they implemented more of a hybrid 3-4/4-3 defense that is read and react in nature, but the talent was still not there to run it and again the scheme is soft (the defense was the nail and not the hammer). So this year the defense has been changed to a hybrid 4-3. There are basically the 3 linemen you see in a 3-4 defense (NT, and 2 DE to play over both OT) and then a hybrid DE/LB played by Shayon Green. When he plays with his hands on the ground he plays like a traditional 4-3 DE. When he plays in a 2 point stance he is playing like a 3-4 LB, however there is never really more than 4 DL and many times its just 3 when Shayon is playing off. As a result the front 7 is often outnumbered by the OL. The first five games it was working decently well because of the improvements made by the players and the stunting done by the DL. However the gig is up and this hybrid 4-3 read and react soft defense is getting gashed. So here is Al's dilemma. If he wants to have success long term he had to scrap the idea of ever running the type of defense he truly wants to run because he won't have the time or get the players to run it because this defense and the current personnel will keep getting gashed and the top DL recruits needed to run it will never come. But that will mean that on some level the defense he knows will be viewed as a failure and that hurts his ego. That then means he not only gas to change to a 4-3 defense because that's what fits his personnel, but it is obvious D-No and Golden don't know how to run a 4-3 defense. It is also clear a read and react defense has to go in lew of an attacking defense. A big change in defensive philosophy that neither he or D-No has. Therefore his boy has to go. But he is torn because he is justifying D-No's failures by saying he had never gotten a chance to run the defense the way its supposed to be run. So for his perspective his butt buddy is going to get a raw deal if he is fired. That is the struggle. If he wants to win at The U he needs to come to the realization that he has to fire his best friend. And no matter how we feel about that that is a difficult decision for anyone to make.

jsy

Like I said previously golden keeps saying uphold the legacy but since he's been here the only legacy he upheld was the blowout to UVA. Golden is a great politician and milked the ncaa excuse to the last drop.

jsy

This is the hardest I told you so I've ever said.... I hope the fans who were angry at those that called out this staff can now finally take off their golden colored glasses

This defense died the moment we accepted 116. I honestly can't wait for the coaches to blame the players again.

Sinistercane

Sleep well tonight Al Golden book lickers lololololol

CGNC

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Sebas13

We are loyal customers who have been sold crappy product . We spend our hard earned money on tickets , gas ,and food . It's time Al realizes he needs to cut ties with his friend. This is a business decision, that's all nothing else. Either that or if you think the stadium looks empty now keep playing the way your playing . Then the U will cut ties with him !! Losing to Duke are you Fing kidding me,Duke !! I take this as a personal insult as the whole team should !! I don't see the pride or SWAG Of the old teams . I see what we old rockers call posers . So in closing Fire DNO get a DC who will put pressure !

CGNC

RARA, ok. Lost and confused rather than giving up. I can see that too. Sigh

New Blog is up

CGNC

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CGNC

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The Dude

Papacane,

CoCane is certainly respected here. OGV is too, he just rubs people wrong. Personally, OGV makes me laugh. I'd love to read one of his mutant philly coach rants right now. Oh yeah, do we have a bingo yet?

RARA

Trust me CGNC...the players aren't giving up...they are just lost and confused as to why they keep getting gashed, especially the defensive players. That contributes to them playing slow and not getting off blocks.

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Duke...358 yds rushing....48 points...what a disgrace. U tough nothing more than a slogan...

No'd shouldn't need to be fired, unlike his D he should man up and quit.....

And we need to get the message to AG he's next if things don't start moving forward.

7 wins, don't buy into it...counting FAU, Sav State, WF, NC, FL and USF. The only decent team we beat was GT. Instaed we were trashed by Duke, FSU and VT.

RARA

Even with SM17 limitations, if the defense was being coached properly we would only have one loss. We would lose to FSU in the ACC championship, but it would be about where this team should be.

CaneRock

From this day forth, I label this defensive scheme "Career High"

Posted by: Willie Will in Nashville

HAHAAAAAAAA! OHHHHHHH...$HIT! LMMFAO!

The Dude

Tonight's loss rests squarely on the shoulders of one Al Golden for not getting a coach that knows how to coach defense. He is in over his head. Paging Butch Davis.

CGNC

RARA they looked like they did in the 3rd. Same thing with v-tech at the end. But I really don't know.

PapaCane1963

Cane spacers , we all know that canes staff or members of the staff follow this blog . I say we start a petition to fire Dno !!

Posted by: Sebas13 | November 16, 2013 at 07:48 PM

don't leave out AG its his scheme. its his defense.

CGNC

Soup, you are being very quiet.

Nedco67

wow!!! This is crazy

RARA

CGNC...the players didn't quit. The are being out coached on defense resulting in them being out of position. The opposing offense is scheming them out of position. They are lost because D-No is lost. The problem on offense is Duke is hurt and we can't rely on SM17. This is 80% the coaches on defense.

Sebas13

Cane spacers , we all know that canes staff or members of the staff follow this blog . I say we start a petition to fire Dno !!

dg

Yelp, as expected. Somebody is on the take! Didn't even watch..already knew. Congrats to Donna Shalala....you've destroyed a program. Golden's honeymoon is over...if he cared, he fires D,No tonight. Good luck Canes' fans! At least I have my 30 for 30 DVD!

PapaCane1963

What's today's excuse? Tired of this. Golden is lost. This is too much for him.

Posted by: TGU_CANE | November 16, 2013 at 07:41 PM

YEP he is in wayyyyyy over his head trying to be loyal to his garbage azz schemes assitances.

roachcane77

Sad, sad day in Cane history…

I just can't see how our defense can be so porous. The only time we stopped Duke's offense was when they stopped themselves…

Very, very, very sad… and worst of all, the people in charge feel they're on the right track.

The ONLY positive things we're doing well right now are: 1) kicking the ball off into the end zone, and 2) recruiting. Period.

Very, very, very sad.

laquinton

Whyyyy???!!!!! Idgaf. Im Not GIVING Up On this. Whyyy d'no ? We need a smash mouth defensive coordinator. What's Goldens email. I'm tired of this

CGNC

Phillip Buchanon ‏@PhillipBuchanon 36m
How much time do you give a person before you realize that they are not the right person for the job?

CGNC

We didn't lose this game because of MoMo. We would have needed 50 points to win and that is ridiculous

TGU_CANE

What's today's excuse? Tired of this. Golden is lost. This is too much for him.

RARA

Herb can say what he wants, but D-No was getting his a$$ handed to him the whole game. Remember our first score came off a punt return. Even when we were up 10-0, Duke was moving the ball on our D. Maybe that excuse works for the offend (doubt it. You would think it would either focus you or you press more and try and do too much. Not slack off), but not the D.

CGNC

From Eric Winston

That said, what scares me is Golden is a defensive guy. Where is he in the meetings? Game planning?

mi@mic@ne

We used to call our defense pit bulls.. now we call them soft zone defenders

CGNC

From Eric Winston

Hope Golden takes a hard look at his best friend and DC. This isn't a talent thing. The scheme is brutal. No imagination on his part. Bad!
Retweeted by Manny Navarro

BEERicane

I think Coley gets a pass as well. I thought he called a good game. Morris made horrible (in reality, probably no) reads tonight. He just hasn't had his head on straight. It's a shame, but not on Coley today.

roachcane77

Why would they slack off when they were back in the hunt?

CGNC

RARA - the other coordinators adjusting to us and then not us being able to readjust. In the Virginia Tech game it looked like the guys quit, same thing today in the third.

CGNC

Herb Waters said that in his opinion- team slacked off when they heard Maryland beat VT
Retweeted by Manny Navarro

RARA

Right about what CGNC?

Old Skool

From the look of things OGV was a master of understatement.

CGNC

RARA you might be right about that.

KYcane

473 - is that your ICU room #?

RARA

With that said I'd like to see what Williams can do.

SOUP

473

CGNC

Canes

Ucane

Hey canes,7-5 crappy bowl but guess what-it doesn't hurt anymore.I have jumped off the cliff.The sky is -no has fallen.Jesus hast to come to save me now.Sorry for the loss everyone,I feel u're pain.U all are great family,keep u're selves and Canespace together. SAD-so very SAD!

The "U" not so much. the u

PapaCane1963

me, Cocane, jsy, OGV, and others been trying to tell U canes faithful all year whats up with this coaching staff scheme. we are lucky we're not 5-5. this coaching staff is wayyyyyy overrated. its time to give CoCane, OGV and jsy their props for being right.

RARA

The defense looks like it has regressed because of the following reason. In the beginning of the year it was clear that the players got stronger, in better shape, and were playing up to their talent level, especially on D. The about week five opposing coaches had enough game film on us and began adjusting accordingly. By the time we played FSU teams now had the complete blueprint on how to outscheme the improvements our players made physically in the off season, especially on D. Simply put, the coaches know how to scheme for us on D and D'No won't and/or can't adjust. I'm giving James Coley a pass because SM17 is not a smart player so the offense is predictable because of it.

4-Real

Good 1 Beer!!! Lol

TonyCane

Okay, there was no excuse for this. Miami had too much talent to give up 48 points. DNo has to go. He should either tender his resignation or be cashiered upon his return. I can forgive losing to Florida State, and understand to an extent Va Tech, but this was completely, absolutely unacceptable.

Deserve competence.

BEERicane

I guess TH3 was right we don't get it. I guess to what he was referring was how to give up over 500 yds a game on a consistent basis, 50 points a game on a consistent basis, how to engage blockers and whiff on tackles like they do. But thanks for showing us how to do it. We get it now!

RCCF

The ONLY positive I can take away from all this is that I may be able now to see Miami (won't call these boobs daU) in TX early December Minute Rice Bowl…. Im Still Orange and Green Just Hurt..


RCCF 12% To Be Continued..

hazydavy

bring back Thug U

Ohio_Cane

Just killed a deer. Glad I missed the game...

CGNC

Thanks 4 Real

ARCane

Thank God we won't be playing fsu again this year

CGNC

Posted by: mi@mic@ne | November 16, 2013 at 07:15 PM

I do remember Coker saying one time after a loss "maybe it was the wind"........

RCCF

Shannon was fired for less…..Soooooooo Its Time.. DNo or Golden but Changes MUST be made..


RCCF

CGNC

RCCF, to tell you the truth, I didn't think so either. But life is funny like that. Maybe this needed to happen to get the change(s) that need to be made

1miamifan

Can't wait to hear Al, post game comments, longtime already called it. Duane Starks is going to rip the lost, kiss being in the top 25, that lost has set this team back, this team is not mentality tough.

mi@mic@ne

I played golf and came home for the 4th q. I did not need to see the game. I already know what happened. When you lose excuses do not mean anything. As Jimmy used to say..this job is for winners only. In the end you lose your job and no one remembers your excuses.

WWIN

Somebody get Cutcliff's number before you leave

CGNC

"run"

CGNC

"Morris can't rub faster than Hilary Clinton"

j.w. that is hilarious!!! LMAO. I don't know why Williams is not the starter. If AG is afraid the move will lose the team......

Terrance Sullivan

Coach Golden and staff U all are on the clock. and Fuck the Process. This shit is a fucking joke. I am fucking pissed of beyond belief. I am sorry if this post gets deleted, but I have fucking had it with this process bullshit. Fuck that.

RCCF

Sorry CGNC U knw this is out of character for me…I just NEVER believed in Life we could lose to DUKE…


RCCF

4-Real

CGNC, U are WITHOUT question the official FACE on the SPACE! Very classy. That A-hole that posted that crap is either gay or pissed because his chick doesn't look like U!

RCCF

BENCH MORRIS HE IS A BOOB…

RCCF

laquinton

Wheres OGV . He was right. We have to fix probrem. . D'no .

1miamifan

They way we played, we need to turn down another bowl game. It's two too late, for making changes, like defensive scheme, benching people that can't tackle or out of position. That D, is straight garbage, no creativity on Offense, this team is 2 Years away, from being competitive. This team has NO fight at all. And that starts with the COACH, unacceptable for the UM fans.

CGNC

Soup! Is this the year we finally get our 9-3?


Too soon? LOL

j.w.

Will do, CGNC. :) Need more therapy.

CGNC

j.w. go for a nice ride tomorrow and forget about this.

RCCF

NO MORE PROCESS…NO MORE PROCESS….JUST WIN

RCCF

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We will not win big games with No'D. End of story...

If AG doesn't see this and make a change he'll be gone after next year as well...

j.w.

I'm putting myself on shut up alert for the rest of the day before I say anything that I might regret. We could have played for the ACC title last year and sent Mike James out in style and now we'll be lucky if we're playing in whatever YourNameHere Bowl wants us for Morris and Gaines. #FML #FOL (our lives).

Surfercane

Ok I'm now on board must fire coach No D!

I just don't understand why the D has regressed so much!!

nemo2002

MEMO TO COACH GOLDEN

Please change your tie.

MOM

canezilla

RCCF……Bus Flipped Over..

Posted by: RCCF | November 16, 2013 at 07:03 PM. I WOULD SAY BUS GOT HIT BY A TRAIN THEN BLEW UP IN A HUUUUGE FIRE BALL THEN BURNT DOWN TO ASHES

laquinton

I cant. I just cant. I'm not a star guy as of late. Not a stat guy as of late. But since that gtech game I'm like what's up with the D. We gave him a pass last year. I said and most of us said since last year that he has a couple of games to turn it around. He has not did anything different. We would get mopped with this kind of showing .

CGNC

Canesteeler - LOL! I didn't. Strikes a nerve with some people because they don't want to consider the possibility that I could be right

Account Deleted

Watch for the recruits to start bailing in 5..4..3..2..1.....

CGNC

RCCF - its ok. At first I didn't think it was you.

Canesteeler - that is great news about your son! Where is he going?

Yoopercane

Yeah, what the fuck happend to U tough? Al better get a different work out program! This U tough program stinks! They should look at Dukes off season program.

Canesteeler

CGNC don't pay attention to that ignorant ass!

RARA

I haven't posted here in a long time, but I've been keeping up with the comments. If anyone still questions whether the problem is the defensive scheme I don't know what else to say. This is not to say we have the talent we would like on defense, but it is better than giving up 40 plus points a game. This scheme is a soft, timid, read and react scheme. The D-Line is not getting off blocks because they are coached to read and react. That's why we get no pass rush. We are also virtually playing 3 d-linemen which is why we are getting gashed in the run. D"NO also has reverted back to playing the db's too far off the ball. This is why are linemen and linebackers look out of position. It is 80% scheme that is the problem now. I feel bad for the players on D who defend their coach. For many of them all they know is this bullsh*t defensive scheme. I played college football and remember thinking we needed to execute better when things weren't going as well. Then we got another d coordinator and new scheme and it fit our team much better. Once they get a different d-coordinator they will play much better and they will see how badly they've been outcoached. I would rather lose the rest of the games and give up 40 plus points a game if it means D-NO loses his job. F*ckin ridiculous!!!

RCCF

I Apologize Guys….


Its Like When Positivity is GONE..

RCCF……Bus Flipped Over..

laquinton

If the process then I'm not with it. We shouldn't have to go through this for a 3rd straight year. I can see a espn special on the fall of the mighty miami hurricanes. It's looking very sad right now. All of a sudden we cannot tackle Duke ? No pressure ? Look sometimes change is good. I trust in AL golden but a 3-4 DEFEND does not bend but don't break. That sounds like some losing type sh*t to me. Of we are competing and we lose so be it. It we are being out coached on a weekly basis and nothing has changed then we need better teachers. We recruit well enough and with no ncaa cloud it's better cause there is nothing holding miami back . But If Shannon Can Get Fired After That Loss That USF and if Kiffen could get fired at ST in the first half of the season. Coach Holt got fired at Washington when he gave up over 700 to Baylor and RG3 . No excuses.. don't give us any Golden. We ALLLL know what he will say in that office tonight going back to coral gables. To Joe on monday and to Susan and the press throughout the week that it's on him. Cast THEM OUT .

nemo2002

MEMO TO COACH GOLDEN

DUKE tough?

Yoopercane

It doesn't matter what class we have, the way I see it is that we have NO CLASS! If we can't coach up the players into a winning mentality then it won't matter what stars we have. We will be an average team with average results!

RCCF

General Mills Bowl Here We Come..

j.w.

I've seen enough. This coaching staff sucks. Every. Sinle. One. of. Them. The d looks good in a 4-3? Let's not try it again! Morris can't rub faster than Hilary Clinton out there so let's try a QB draw. Clements rubs they people but don't use him, Crawford is much better at getting knocked down by one small guy. Any one of them can go and it won't break my heart.

CGNC

Ok, nice post there. Thanks for stopping by.

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Think about it....we got stomped by Duke, beat by VT and destroyed by FSU.

Have lost 3 straight giving up more than 40 points each game and near or over 500 yds.

And I called this season 8-4 before it got started, but didn't think it would be this bad....

BEERicane

Can't turn this around in a year. We have ONE player on D, Perryman, and that's it. Other than him, we have NADA! We have no D ends, No DTs, and not a single DB. I say this in all sincerity, I would rather have ANY college Defense and Coordinator than what we have at Miami. It is the absolute worst in the country. Not exaggerating

CGNC

The lost decade continues

4-Real

Calling Kirby Smart???? James Franklin???? Lane Kiffin? Peter Griffin???

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