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November 09, 2013

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360Cane

What really concerns me though, is watching those Raising Canes and dudes are studying the playbook as they're getting ready for the game. Someone isn't ready?

Who's backup? Some raise they're hands. See, that's a problem. Never have the mentality of a backup. ;-)

CoCane

Thanks for proving my point. 3 top 20 classes out of 4 years. 1 top 15 & 1 top 10. So what are you saying? Lmao

360Cane

Yes, I know the difference between all those theres and theyres and theirs. Lol

CGNC

Raising Canes is semi-scripted I would think

4-Real

I appreciate ur optimism 360 but there is absolutely NO WAY anyone can justify / sugarcoat Miami's lackluster play so far this season. We do have 7 victories but that's because we beat 7 extremely
crappy teams. There is no excuse 4 having to come from behind to beat a Wake team that was shut out by Syracuse! No way Syracuse has better talent than UM, therefore it has to be coaching. I honestly believe that Golden has lost this team. Each week Golden is starting 2 look more & more like a Caucasian version of Shannon. No emotion, no spunk, no desire to inspire. If being found NOT GUILTY by the NCAA ain't enuff to motivate this team.....

360Cane

Co, well, the average of that is 20 maybe would equal a 20th ranked team. 10-2 or 9-3. Seems about right.

I had 8-4 to UF, UNC, FSU and VT. 2-2 not bad.

360Cane

I just think the outcome of that game hung heavily on the fumbles and kneeled punt. 4 fumbles last night and VT covers them all??!! Man, that made me sick to see that fumble to TD for VT.

DallasTX Cane

Hey CGNC! Man, everyone gets up early after a loss. LOL

Not saying anyone is wrong, but also believe many are over-thinking last night. We started with a huge amount of intensity & momentum. Scored on big play & D stuffed their O. Huge punt return but fumble at end of run. Huge KO return after their TD, but another lost fumble. When we turned e ball over on a kneel-down, that made 3 huge momentum killers in a row. We're not good enough to overcome that crap. 90% of games, either college or pro, once a team gets up by 3 scores it is game over.

Fix the missed tackles, fumbles & dropped TD passes = fix the team.

dj moonbat

There were lots of times when the defensive play call was bad. There were also times when the call was good, and the players blew it. The 'Canes were willing to do what it took.

I don't think Miami's foot speed on defense is particularly slow, except on the line (those guys are running in molasses). But their reaction time is AWFUL. When they see a change in front of them that requires action, they just stand there and watch while the offensive player changes direction and runs past them. So many times, I just wanted to shout at our defenders "Just GET him! He's right there!"

D4-Cane

Good morning. FIRE NO'D NOW. If Golden doesn't have the "nuggets", FIRE GOLDEN TOO. That defense is a joke, and on offense Morris should never play another snap at the U. DONE!

DallasTX Cane

Yeah 360; we fumble & shoot yourselves in the foot. VT fumbles & gets a 1st down & a TD. WTF? Football gods pissed on us on those four plays no doubt. Maybe they figured any team that takes a knee on a punt deep in their own side of the field doesn't deserve any good Mojo.

CGNC

Maybe they figured any team that takes a knee on a punt deep in their own side of the field doesn't deserve any good Mojo.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | November 10, 2013 at 09:27 AM


LMAO on that one! It would be funnier if it weren't so TRUE

360Cane

Yup, just a game of bad luck. That is all. We played exactly how THIS team is suppose to play.

I do love how we won't accept a top 25 team though. ;-)

360Cane

That's that FIRE in this fan base. Lol

dj moonbat

Maybe they figured any team that takes a knee on a punt deep in their own side of the field doesn't deserve any good Mojo.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | November 10, 2013 at 09:27 AM


I still don't understand why that call wasn't reversed (my internet connection gave out for a while during the review). His knee was down BEFORE he touched the ball, much less controlled it. Isn't he allowed to get up?

SOUP

When U wake up in the morning with your head on fire, and your eyes to bloody to see, go on and cry in your coffee but don't come bitchin to me...

360Cane

And that will be my humble opinion for the day. Let's save the fire coaches for next year or even the year after. You have to evaluate what was inherited and what's being built.

We're in rebuild mode ladies and gentlemen. We're not in reload mode. Not for another 2 years at the least.

Off to the races. Y'all have a great day today. And always remember, it wasn't you out there playing or coaching so you shouldn't feel half as bad. ;-)

SOUP

Fix the missed tackles, fumbles & dropped TD passes = fix the team.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | November 10, 2013 at 09:24 AM

Problem is there is no evidence that these things are going to get fixed now, soon or ever.

dj moonbat

I had a revelation last night.

I've been slow to completely reject D'No's defensive scheme. I think that until recently, the scheme could work, even if it was unnecessarily complicated to implement it.

But now, I realize, there's been a change that greatly reduces the potential for these kinds of defenses: the 'targeting' rule.

A necessary component of a loose zone is that when you see the ball coming to a receiver, there are guys in position to take a good running start at him, and dislodge the ball for an incomplete pass or fumble -- or at least make the guy think twice about catching the damned ball. With this new 'targeting' crap, this key weapon is all but removed from a defense's arsenal.

D'No needs to adapt to this new reality. I mean, *&^%, if a complete bonehead like yours truly can figure it out...

CGNC

Soup, how are you doing today?

Texascane

What bothers me the most about the two kick turnovers early is that VT didn't get the ball on our 20 yard line...both TO's were on the other side of the 50. First quarter, not tired, and our defense could not even hold them to a field goal.

Duke beat VT without completing a pass in the entire second half and overcame four turnovers...not good for us.

CGNC

Texas, VT committed the 4 turnovers in that Duke game. Basically, the Hokies had happen to them what happened to us. But our D is a mess against better competition.

SOUP

Soup, how are you doing today?

Posted by: CGNC | November 10, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Sick, tired and broke.

How are U?

CGNC

I am ok. I felt so bad seeing the fans watch the team in that rain! Looked like it never let up. Go do something fun today with Mrs. 86, BTW I sent an email to you awhile back that came back - give me the addy again?

Sarasota 'cane

Soup the phrase "...to a fault." has crept back into my vocabulary with regards to supporting this team.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

3rd and 17 + 3rd and 12 = 14

D'No must go!

Texascane

CGNC- Boone threw four interceptions, also. He was 7 for 26 for 91 yards passing and threw 4 INTs...and Duke still won.

Texascane

...and Duke was 0-11 on third down.

laquinton

This loss was worse than last weeks

SOUP

CGNC...do something fun with Mrs. 86 today?

I have not been home since Wednesday at 6 AM. I am still in some dank hotel room in SoFl.

I still have a three hour drive just to get home. I'll be lucky if my key still opens the door when I get home and back to Winter Haven around 2 PM.

Then I have to spend at least an hour unpacking the car and putting things away from the tailgate.

Then I have to do a weeks worth of laundry and get ready for work the coming week.

Have fun? U people have NO clue.

PapaCane1963

We are back at square one. Why should we have faith in an unproven coach, with mediocre staff, using shyty schemes. This will not end. We will keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. That is the definition of insanity.

Posted by: TGU_CANE | November 10, 2013 at 12:16 AM


true that...totally insane.

LA3

"Trust the system....Trust the process"....

The system is broke and the process does not work.

Miami is the Affordable Health Care Act of NCAAF! Al and DNO need to come out and apologize to Canes Fans.

We should have never been #7...or #10 or where ever we need up this week. We did not earn it....teams in front lost and we got be default.

This is on the STAFF...Off has no clue. Player groupings and set GIVE AWAY the play. Bud Foster Def threw everytime we were going to run...Stacked the line.
Def...we have healthy 1 and 2 deep...we have had 9 weeks to learn the system...we can not get a stop on 3 down and 10+....
I do not even have words! SAD SAD SAD.

Canes were built on great defenses....And the game has changed...not many GREAT defenses in today's game...BUT WE SUCK!

PapaCane1963

Hey where is the link to Butch Davis?

Posted by: IraqiCane | November 10, 2013 at 06:22 AM


bring Butch back before its too late.

PapaCane1963

listened to D'no post game interview and this guy is clueless. he doesn't take responsibility for his lack of coaching. he obviously don't have the players on defense mentally and physically ready. the scheme and philosophy is soft and incompetent.
the most saddening part of the defense is its Al Goldens system. its designed to fall. AND HE DOESN'T REALIZE IT. sad, sad, sad.

Terrance Sullivan

Fix the missed tackles, fumbles & dropped TD passes = fix the team.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | November 10, 2013 at 09:24 AM

Problem is there is no evidence that these things are going to get fixed now, soon or ever.

Posted by: SOUP | November 10, 2013 at 09:51 AM
There is a major problem. Sad, Pissed, and dont know if and when we will ever be back to greatness.

Sarasota 'cane

UM ranked 24 in the AP.

"We started at the bottom now we're...back, started at the bottom now the whole team's back!"

D'No must go!

j.w.

Thanks CGNC and Mia Cane. It was the most frustrating night I've seen since ND last year. 36): I'd love to believe that all that ails us is the lack of a line, but I'm seeing a lot more problems than that, starting with the inability to put our guys in position to make a play. Why in the world would you throw the ball to Walford when he can't catch and run somewhere, he isn't elusive? And why keep trying the damned stretch play with a RB like Crawford who can't cut on a dime like Duke?

PapaCane1963

Fix the missed tackles, fumbles & dropped TD passes = fix the team.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | November 10, 2013 at 09:24 AM

Problem is there is no evidence that these things are going to get fixed now, soon or ever.

Posted by: SOUP | November 10, 2013 at 09:51 AM
There is a major problem. Sad, Pissed, and dont know if and when we will ever be back to greatness.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | November 10, 2013 at 11:27 AM

We won't be back to greatness with this coaching staff and their philosophy aa well as scheme. its designed to fail and they believe its gonna work.

PapaCane1963

Fix the missed tackles, fumbles & dropped TD passes = fix the team.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | November 10, 2013 at 09:24 AM

Problem is there is no evidence that these things are going to get fixed now, soon or ever.

Posted by: SOUP | November 10, 2013 at 09:51 AM
There is a major problem. Sad, Pissed, and dont know if and when we will ever be back to greatness.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | November 10, 2013 at 11:27 AM

We won't be back to greatness with this coaching staff and their philosophy as well as scheme. its designed to fail and they believe its gonna work.

Posted by: PapaCane1963 | November 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM

canezilla

I JUST MADE A SIGN ON A BED SHEET TO HANG OVER THE LEDGE IT READS. D'NO = NO'D.. ANYBODY THAT'S WANTS TO SIGN IT BEFORE THE UVA GAME I WILL BE TAILGATING IN EAST 5 . THE FANS NEED TO START THE FIRE TO GET THINGS CHANGED. TIRED OF WASTING MY TIME,MONEY AND ENERGY ON THIS TRASH DEFENSE. MIAMI HAS TO GO AFTER A REAL D COACH AND GIVE UP SOME MONEY. THIS IS NOT COACH GOLDENS CHOICE. IF HE DON'T LIKE IT THEN HE CAN BE REPLACED ALSO. IM ALSO IN SEC 402 ROW 1.. LOOK OUT FOR THE SIGN JUST SO TIRED OF IT. SHYT JUST GOT REAL!!!!

Terrance Sullivan

I JUST MADE A SIGN ON A BED SHEET TO HANG OVER THE LEDGE IT READS. D'NO = NO'D.. ANYBODY THAT'S WANTS TO SIGN IT BEFORE THE UVA GAME I WILL BE TAILGATING IN EAST 5 . THE FANS NEED TO START THE FIRE TO GET THINGS CHANGED. TIRED OF WASTING MY TIME,MONEY AND ENERGY ON THIS TRASH DEFENSE. MIAMI HAS TO GO AFTER A REAL D COACH AND GIVE UP SOME MONEY. THIS IS NOT COACH GOLDENS CHOICE. IF HE DON'T LIKE IT THEN HE CAN BE REPLACED ALSO. IM ALSO IN SEC 402 ROW 1.. LOOK OUT FOR THE SIGN JUST SO TIRED OF IT. SHYT JUST GOT REAL!!!!

Posted by: canezilla | November 10, 2013 at 11:59 AM
I will gladly sign it Zilla!

PapaCane1963

the fans on canespace understand the game and what needs to be fixed and what scheme needs to be installed better than this coaching staff. they don't have a clue because they believe their philosophy and scheme is gonna work. their philosophy and scheme is soft and incompetent. WAKE UP PLEASE.

The Dude

You can autograph that banner for me too. I'm so pissed. I'm sitting there, watch me tv, calling plays against the Miami D and am getting everyone right. It was like I was playing playstation. Unf*ckingacceptable 3rd down defense on ANY level. Its a joke. Offense just f*cks around and calls whatever they want on first and second, but when 3rd down comes, we all know what's going to happen on any distance. D'No would have been fired long ago if ANYONE but Al Golden were the head coach. But again, its Al's scheme and his scheme is pathetic. We need to bring in a bigtime DC that basically controls the whole defense without Al's input. I don't know if you can do that and keep Al Golden.

Canesteeler

Bottom line is we are not a well coached team. To hell with all of the excuses we suck on the most basic fundamentals. How many coaches on our staff would be hired by other teams in the top 25? AG has a horse shyt staff. I would love an opposing coach to speak the truth about the U and state they all laugh at our schemes and fundamentals. The Canes are my team but I will no longer spend money to sit in the stands and watch this horrible product. With all the issues the team has faced the past three years with recruiting the lack of quality coaching is a major issue. Jason Whitlock was very critical of the AG hire and as much as I want to think AG is the right man the on field performance leads me to believe unless he makes chances in his staff it doesn't matter how high ranking our classes are, because the coaching won't get it done.

j.w.

Papa, still not sure if it's the scheme or the approach. By that I mean, are we really putting the right people in? Are we teaching anything on defense? I ask because I am way past my wit's end watching receivers run short routes, literally without a defender within 10 yards of them, and doing nothing to counter. One play last night was illustrative, 2 guys running side by side towards Logan while a RB runs 15 yards past them, wide open. Almost as if they were in a 3-legged race while a lumbering unathletic VT RB picks up 20 yards. Coley and Burns justifiably get benched for their fumbles, yet we see repeated failures by defensive players who just keep playing.

LA3

Zilla......I will gladly SIGN!

raizecane

UCF looking better than us. Right now the two best team in Florida is FSU and UCF.

Posted by: MDCane | November 09, 2013 at 08:55 PM

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MDCane - I went to the UCF game last night and it was great. I kept getting text messages from Canechic and I could feel the frustration in her text.

So I am taped the game and was gonna watch it today. Based on all the posts, should i save myself 3 hours of misery and do something else??

Canesteeler

Jw I think it is a combination of teaching and scheme. To have short passes continually turn into 30 yard gains because no one is around the receiver is a joke. Week after week we continue to see the same mistakes. Also can someone please explain why our offense does not utilize the middle of the field in the passing game. Va Cane congrats on the win last night and even bigger props by your player how he reacted when he was called N word by the opposing player.

dj moonbat

I am way past my wit's end watching receivers run short routes, literally without a defender within 10 yards of them, and doing nothing to counter.

Posted by: j.w. | November 10, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Miami got bitten at least twice with nearly identical plays being thrown against nearly identical blitzes. No defenders got near the QB, and there was a hole in the zone probably 10 yards in diameter behind the blitzing LBs. No disguise, no rotation of coverage to make it harder on the QB, just wide open field to exploit.

There were variations on the 'wide open underneath route' all night, but it's especially painful to watch when the QB doesn't have to hurry his throw AT ALL to beat the blitz.

LA3

#82 Willie Byrn 6 rec for 105 5-11 175lbs!
WALK ON!
Thats right all you star lovers....DNO and Def got toasted by WALK ON!

CoCane

Bottom line: 19 returning starters plus most of the 2 deep & the play still hasn't improved. "No excuses this year". Golden said that...

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