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November 02, 2013

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BEERicane

If Duke has a bi- or trimalleolar fracture (tib/fib) that could be a serious recovery time. May never be the same again.

D4-Cane

I love my Canes, but two things. Second half pussy effort was unbelievable. Next point, AGAIN our player gets rocked (DUKE) and gets taken out of the game with no revenge! Lay a hat on Jameis for God's sake! Our boys are soft and don't back up their team. I think we lose 2 more games this year.

Keoki

F' the Noles!!!

herbieibis

The Herb has waited all night to form his thoughts and this is his conclusion to this dismal night:
I have given Deno a pass only because we didn't have the talent on defense that he needed to be successful, well we still don't have the talent but he is clueless as a coordinator and his game planning suks. We played just how I thought we would play, not to try and win but to try and keep it close, so much for that. FSU was probably 80% on 3RD down for the game and once again the QB had all day to throw the football. Spacers, you know the Herb has called it like he sees it for the three plus years I have posted here. I predicted the score to be 38-17, I just didn't say who because of all the negatism that it would have created. Al knows we are not where we need to be, he's a realist and a damn good football coach, who was handed a shyt sandwiche when he got here. We played hard to night and we got a moral victory. Coley had a chance to make a statement tonight with his game calling but once again it's run on first down 85% of the time. The Duke is done at least until the bowl season and that's if he didn't break his ankle. Crawford limped off the field at the end, so I guess that leaves Edwards, as our only healthy back. Morris is not the savior and by trying to run as much as we did, the coaches in The Herb's humble opinion have no confidence in his passing abilities, to try and bring us back. We played not to win but not to lose this game, pure and simple. We don't have no killas on defense. Our front 7 is pure vanilla, like in ice cream. Now that may hurt someone's feelings, for The Herb to say this but it is a fact. Think about this Spacers, it ain't going to get any better next year because over half of our front 7 will be gone plus most of the depth. We play Va Tech next and their defense is good too and we won't have Duke. Morris is going to have to win these last few games with his arm, whether Coley wants to or not. No player should wear 26 unless he has shown Shawn Taylor like tendencies. Other than Perryman, I don't see one player on the defense, that will tear your head off. I'm pissed and miffed and all things in between. The only way this gets fixed is through recruiting and I still don't see the it guy at LB Or at DB in this in coming class and for that matter at WR. I see where we have a few DT's finally but Valentine may not be able to get in and the same goes with Stuckey and if that happens, I guess it's the same old, same old!

SOUP

Thought we could lose the game unless we played perfect but never thought we would lose by 21 or more. Not a good look on National TV.

SOUP

Gonna be along ride home tomorrow.

But I'd do it all again.

GO CANES, BEAT VT!

SOUP

What a long strange trip it's been.

Tailgating with Native, Terrance, Skool, Keoki, Ricky, Canezilla was a ton of fun. We did our part but the tailgate could not win this one. Noles are two years ahead of Miami. As stated earlier this week UM needs two more years of solid recruiting, player development and coaching development to win BIG games like this in a hotile environment.

And it WAS hostile and LOUD.

CalgaryCane

Goofy would be a better description?

CalgaryCane

Give it to JW, he's corny as hell, but his guys love him and he gels the team.

Old Skool

UpNorth has officially lost his mojo.

CalgaryCane

Sad for Duke. Hope he recovers fully.

CalgaryCane

Hope we have calmed down a bit. We were in the game up to half time. As golden said, we need to score and keep up with FSU. They broke the game open in 2nd half. D could not hold off FSU, who plays really well. BTW... The first half was carried equally by Duke and Morris. FSU made in game adjustments. Miami couldn't; we're not there yet. In second half, our running game stalled...down 3 scores...so we went to the air. FSU knew that we had to throw. We have pretty good receivers but not good enough when it's expected that we throw.

We've had a 2 play game that brought us this far; SM long ball and Duke run. Hopefully, the coaches realise that every one can see that and game plan against us. With Duke out, it's up to Crawford and friends to step up. Hope we make it to the ACC title game.

Still proud of our guys!

raizecane

On such a stupid ass play .....4th and no imagination. Would have been nice to have a QB with two good ankles to run a naked bootleg instead of sending Duke into 8 men in the box....

raizecane

NEWS FLASH ***** Duke Johnson out for the rest of the year with a broken ankle.......

WWIN

Dude, good post, exactly what I been saying. Golden is DEFINITELY learning on the job, even in recruiting. Some of the players he signed his first year I don't think he would recruit again. He has to get that killa instinct, when you put your second and third string players in they should be trying to score to showyou what they can do and bbuild depth instead of just handing the ball off.

The Dude

Don't worry about UM's academic standards. We have plenty of dumb kids on the team. Plus they can do all kinds of things to get the kids they reaaly want to come to UM.

TGU_CANE

Everything is in #17's hands. Not good.

The Dude

We need to adjust how we run now. Duke gave us stretch plays for big yards. Need to grind opposition with Crawford and Clements. Short yardage go to Gus with Maurice lead blocking. Full TE sets. We need to control the tempo from here on out. Make them put the 8th guy in the box so we can get our WRs 1 on 1 for the deep throws. We can still have an amazing season. We just gotta go take it.

The Dude

Canerock, I agree about Gus not being ready, and that's what pisses me off. Get him ready. Make him ready. They've had all year to get him ready to fight for tough yards. But instead the staff worked on other things. Its a glaring hole that still hasn't been addressed. By game 8, Gus should be ready to roll on the goal line. If not, its on the coaches not pushing him.

Sinistercane

NOd's scheme is base off the Penn St slow un-athletic players from up north used to contain explosive Florida type players, his scheme is riddle with the fear of getting beat deep but it allow you to get rapped on every other route

The Dude

Duke has a broken ankle, out for year.

Sarasota 'cane

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SHYT!!!!!!!!

TGU_CANE

Truth is that it will be very, very, hard for Mami to assemble a NC team again. Most of the best players in high school do not have the grades to go to UM. So we can get the best coach ever, but we will not have the talent. Plain truth and it sucks.

CaneRock

Back off. This is a team with a crust of elite talent and an underbelly of mediocrity. FSU had had FOUR top recruiting classes. Miami had had two good ones. We are two years away. This Miami team has a talent level similar to the 1998 version. But we are on the way back. It will just take a little more time.

Posted by: TonyCane | November 03, 2013 at 12:08 AM

THIS!

The "crust", and "underbelly" descriptions are SPOT ON!

As much as I appreciate Crawford's contributions this season, He's a considerable drop-off after Duke...and Gus ain't ready. Waters and Coley are gonna be good ones, but because of their youth, they're gonna need more time to be effective in games like this.

DallasTX Cane

We have great players in probably 1/2 of the starting spots and decent players throughout the rest of the roster. We're 2 more top recruiting classes away from having great players deep into the bench - IMO.

With this group, looking too far ahead is likely to result in a loss. Winning the Coastal is the goal - going undefeated and being in the NC mix wasn't realistic.

But I do agree that the coaches don't get a full pass. We aren't in fsu's class yet, but should have been able to keep the game closer in the 2nd
1/2. I'm so tired of 3rd & 22 being right where the other guys want to have our D. Learn to tackle...please!

TGU_CANE

This is the U, not Temple. Why in the hell are we playing Temple defense. D'No and his philosophy should be far away from Coral Gables.

The Dude


CGNC, that's pretty much what I'm getting at. Golden is still learning. I think he learns quikly. We need everyone to come back and we'll have another good shot at a championship run. We started off 7-0 and got ourselves ranked #7 before the loss. Next we play VTech. Let's get this bus rolling again. 8-1 and we start climbing again.

Home vs VTech W 34-17
@ Duke W 38-24
Home vs UVA. W 45-17
@ Pitt. W 34-24

Miami will finish 11-1 with a shot at FSU again.

We are loaded in recruiting. We need to win for next years preseason ranking. In 2 years, we will be where FSU is.

The Dude

The great coaches DallasTXCane have great players deep on their benches. But Golden needs to step up simple things like putt Gus Edwards in as a goal line back. He needed to be ready for this game a month ago.

The Dude

Okay who do we lose and who replaces them, position by position. I'll go first.

QB: Lose SR QB Stephen Morris. More of an athlete rather than QB. Morris led the Hurricanes through their best stretch in recent memory. He had a very strong arm but could be very innaccurate on short and midranged thows. Morris contiously missed throws when the mattered like on 3rd down and Redzone situations. We wish Stephen well as a 5th round draft pick in next years draft.

QB: Returning Jr QB Ryan Williams will be a SR next year. He is very tall and has the respect of his teammates as he often took control of the team during the many of times that Morris was injured. Williams is tall a 6'5" and can see the field very well. He has added plenty of zip to his thows and will surely open camp as the number 1 QB.

QB: Returning Fr QB Kevin Olsen will be a redshirt Freshman when he suits up for practice next year. The 4 Star recruit has great size at 6'3" and needs to come in weighing at about 210 next year. He has plenty of power behind his throws and maybe the best mechanics of any QB on the roster. His bother was All American TE Greg Olson so Kevin wants to do well by his big brother. Kevin needs to step up his game though. He needs to know the playbook inside and out by next year. He needs to know his teammates also. Kevin should groom himself into the backup QB situation next year.

QB: Returning RS So QB Grey Crow has already contributed a great deal. He's a 3 star prospect that looks a little like Tim Tebow in pads but plays a little like Jake Plummer. I don't think Grey will ever start at UM, but he will do more to get this team prepared then some coaches. He's a grinder and a very capable backup should there be an injury.

QB: True Freshman Brad Kaaya is one of the best High School prospects in the nation. He's tall at 6'4" and brings with him maybe what no top Freshman QB in that last ten years at miami has had. He's not dubbed the savior. All this kid has to do is come in and get better. Get to his ideal weight, 230. Start to understand the offensive concepts and start reading that playbook.

DallasTX Cane

Sweet dreams. We can chat later. Such a great CANES season compared to the last...8!

DallasTX Cane

Hey CGNC!

DallasTX Cane

Given our QB situation (ankle or just plain poor decision making, it doesn't really matter) and how bad the D was last year; I'd say this team has OVERachieved to reach 7-0. The coaching may not be elite level, but my opinion is that coaching matters less (in game coaching that is) when your lines are not competitive. Every plan is based on control of the line of scrimmage. When U can't even go 50-50 on that point, no plan is going to work.

CGNC

Hey a DallasTexas Cane sighting! Ok, now goodnight!

DallasTX Cane

Where-have-U-gone-Russell Maryland??

Great comments tonight Legion. I'm very pleasantly surprised by the level-heads on display! lol

We got man-handled on both sides of the ball tonight. We had to be perfect and take advantage of every opportunity. They had the firepower to overcome mistakes & missed opportunities. Morris's mistakes killed us early. Our Dline is weak and we don't have enough playmakers.

They're simply a couple years ahead of us. But, Al has brought in 2 straight top15 classes and this year's looks to be a top 10 class. We're climbing the mountain back. We're behind FSU tho.

Win the Coastal...that was Pre-season goal and is still out there for Us to take. We'll get our payback on FSU...

mountain cane

Why has Golden been so deceptive about the extent of the Morris ankle injury? Trying to keep it from the opposition? They can see it as soon as the game starts, he can't move.

The underthrow of Coley was the straw for me. Must have had a 3 stride lead and underthrew the trailing db. Dreadful pass.

None of our remaining games are gimmies:

1. VT won't give up many points to us and how they do on offense depends on the roulette wheel that is Logan Thomas. We are certainly capable of making even him look good.
2. Duke is much better than Duke of the old days. Smart, avg arm white qbs kill us.
3. Virginia should be a gimmie, but we seem to play them worse than anyone else.
4. Pitt not very good, but away holiday game is always tricky, esp if we falter before that.

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CGNC

The Dude - that is a good point. We are watching him grow along with the team. He is smart and will learn. Funny you mention Peterson, I wanted him or Patterson.

The Dude

Here's the problem. When Miami fired Randy Shannon, we the fans all wanted a top notch coach, instead we got a project coach in Al Golden. He seems to get better each year but his ceiling isn't clear yet. Golden recruits well and develops what talent he does have. His actual game day choices are at times questionable and his love for his BFF is concerning because D'Onofrio's ceiling is clear. What is Golden? He certainly isn't an elite coach. Can he become an elite coach? I think so. How long will it take? I don't know. So here we are. We have a solid team that underachieves on gameday. A good HC and bad coordinators. Our HC has earned a 4th year thus far. Golden will be here to coach next year unless he wants to go somewhere else. I can't think of anyone that would want him that would be a better job than Miami. If Golden ever does decide to go, Miami should throw everything at Chris Petersen. Chris Petersen is the Nick Saban of the future. But Golden isn't leaving. He's coming back and will push for the coastal again with his BFF and Coley. We just need to be patient with Goldens progress and demand greatness from him. Don't just look at this game. Look at Al Goldens story at Miami. Its been a pretty good read if you ask me. He will learn to use a Goal Line Back. Especially after FSU shoved it in his face. He will learn to call plays for 1st downs. (That's where Boise St is amazing) If its 3rd and 7 you throw for 8.

CGNC

Good night all, enjoyed the game with you as always!

Go Canes

JCane

Hard game for the U. However, we are about where I thought we'd be, and 1-2 years away from where I suspect we'll have a top 5 contending team, which is where FSU is now. As long as I see continued improvement, especially with good recruiting and building up of depth, along with getting some more speed in the front 7 on D with a desire to hit, and hopefully some QBs with more potential, the next few years should continue to get better.

Sorry to lose to FSU, which I hate to do, but this is why AG made it clear the U isn't back yet but is building toward it. Now, how about staying focused on VTech, and hopefully Duke's ankle injury isn't too bad.

Safe driving to all of the spacers in Tally tonight.

dg

All about coaching like I said...Yes FSU has more horses but Golden was outclassed!

CGNC

I hope FSU goes on to play in the title game. It would be nice to see a tough ACC team make it in there #IhatetheSEC

Sass

Well said tony

Sass

Guys the simple fact is that they have a few more horses than us. We played a very good Fsu team tonight. Our talent will get better with the ncaa bs behind us. We have a good team and are proud of where we are going. For this season we just need to move on and finish the season.If we take care of business we will see the seminoles again. Trust the Tie !! Go Canes!!!

PapaCane1963

agreed

TonyCane

Back off. This is a team with a crust of elite talent and an underbelly of mediocrity. FSU had had FOUR top recruiting classes. Miami had had two good ones. We are two years away. This Miami team has a talent level similar to the 1998 version. But we are on the way back. It will just take a little more time.

The Dude

A few things:

1) Jimbo showed Al Golden what a football team looks like.

2) D'Onofrio is a mid-major coordinator.

3) Miami can't let FSU beat them twice. Have to gear up for VT.

Yoopercane

Miami is not where we thought they would be. FSU was the better team tonight, they executed their game plan tonight and we could not make the adjustments we needed to make to match their intensity. They Canes have some major fundamentals that they need to work on for sure. I hate to say it but its back to the basics for the Canes. If we they are to contend and win the ACC they can't play like they did tonight!

raizecane

VFB - I am not concerned about 2 or 3.....but 1, yes indeed.

CGNC

Look at Beeri trying to cheer everyone up! You are right! The season could end up 11-2 (imagining we win everything else and run into FSU in the championship game)

raizecane

I'd rather lose like we did tonight as opposed to how Northwestern lost to Nebraska earlier today.....talk about your heart dropping.

VfB_Cane

"Oh my gosh, we are back" should draw a one-week blogging suspension LOL

My three biggest worries after tonight's game:
1) Duke's injury
2) Impact on recruiting
3) Hangover effect impacting VT game

Hopefully, we'll be able to regroup and win the Coastal.

CGNC

Posted by: raizecane | November 02, 2013 at 11:39 PM

LOL!!! Made me laugh.

BEERicane

Our first ACCCG will be a great accomplishment for this program. Win the bowl game and they've had a hell of a season.

Go Canes! Beat The Turkeys!

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My guess is we drop to 14 or so. We're not really that good and its showed

raizecane

How far will the Canes drop in the poles?

Posted by: Canesteeler | November 02, 2013 at 11:41 PM

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15 or 16

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BTW I called the season 8-4, so right now even finishing 9-3 would be a plus.

Had no expectation of winning this game before the season began, but at least thought we'd compete.

VT will be a tough win, not sure about Duke either. We can still win 9 and get a second tier bowl game....

Canesteeler

How far will the Canes drop in the poles?

BEERicane

VfB, that is a great idea.

Sarasota 'cane

10 wins is great for a team that won 7 the previous year. Get off the ledge cane fans we are going to be nice.

Posted by: Triangle cane | November 02, 2013 at 11:34 PM

I'm with you...on Tuesday. Today, not so much!

Jramos

Focus on V-tech,dats all for now

raizecane

I said it earlier.....we are not there yet....not even close.

BTW - Vegas was wrong....we lost by 27 not 21.....HAHA (suckers)

VfB_Cane

The sentence "We are back" should be banned from this blog until we win one of those big games. Beating mediocre teams and getting killed by top 10 foes is the opposite of being back by Mimai Hurricane szandards.

Sarasota 'cane

I hope Duke is OK.

BEERicane

We kept it closer than Clemmy, that's a plus.

TheU > Clemmy this year

BEERicane

Remember when everyone was giving me crap for predicting this blow-out? How'd that turn out?

Triangle cane

Love the canes, they were beaten by a better team tonight period. It happens. If we had jj on the side lines it wouldn't have mattered. It's depth . If Miami continues to play hard they will see fsu again.

10 wins is great for a team that won 7 the previous year. Get off the ledge cane fans we are going to be nice.

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embarrassed is the word.

can't say I didn't expect it, but hoped we'd at least play well. complete failure in every aspect of the game tonight.

We're years away from this level..

Sarasota 'cane

Stephen morris has the nerve to be laughing and smiling on the sideline smdh!!! Thats our leader on O? We need a real Qb kid is dumber then a rock!! I REALLY HOPE Kevin Olsen is the answer!!

James coley : F

No'D: F

Posted by: UpNorthCane | November 02, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Agreed!

ARCane

What's up with all the fireworks? Was this a championship game?

4-Real

This is all Shannon's fault :(

BEERicane

SM threw for more TDs than JW.

That's a plus

ThyCallMeD

GOOD GAME KIDS. I'LL BE BACK FOR ACCCG

PapaCane1963

Morris end up being a disgrace again

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Still time for SM to throw another INT...

IraqiCane

My thoughts as well Longtime.

BEERicane

Let's be honest.

No one is actually surprised by this result. C'mon now....

UpNorthCane27

Worst play call ive ever seen was that 4th n 11 throw to walford... Was their really no other better play in your book Coley?

Sinistercane

How many more games until P17 graduates?

BEERicane

longtime, we deserve to get the score run up on our ass. Ram rod us so it hurts enough these kids get their sh@t together and win out.

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Saw that, Morris smiling on the sideline. I remember the story of Shockey eating dirt because they lost.

Tells you who is committed to winning....

WWIN

If you don't want em to score keep em out of the end zone

CGNC

Long time, well LOL we went for it on 4th and 11 near midfield. Made it kind of easy for them.

BEERicane

I won't be sad to see Highsmith go. He sucks

UpNorthCane27

Stephen morris has the nerve to be laughing and smiling on the sideline smdh!!! Thats our leader on O? We need a real Qb kid is dumber then a rock!! I REALLY HOPE Kevin Olsen is the answer!!

James coley : F

No'D: F

Canesteeler

FSU makes us look slow as shit.

WWIN

This is why I've been mad since ga tech, this was due to happen

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BTW...FSU trying to run up the score now...real class

BEERicane

Damn. I hate to say..... I told you all so that the 22 pt spread was a slap in the face to FSU. It's clear there is a very large gap between them and us.

Just have to deal with the facts, we aren't that good. I have you all advice to run and put that cash on the Noles. I couldn't do it just because I can't bet on or against the canes, but this was easy easy $$$

WWIN

WWIN - its like you read my mind although I think putting Williams in now would be cruel - LOL he should have played in the Wake game, imho

Posted by: CGNC | November 02, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Wake? Nah he shoulda been playing since ga tech

VfB_Cane

This game is on the coaches. We hung in there in the first half, then FSU's halftime adjustments turned this into a rout.

First tome this season this has happened.

texican cane

Don't want to hear about next yr. New Qb. Its hard getting to 7-0. Al could be offered $$$ and go, hell no'd could still be here. We would need sapp and 52 and reed and rusty medaris to offset his sh!tty defense.
OC better get better, esp with new Qb.
Feel free to catch a fukking pass cleanly walford.

ARCane

Ahh nothing like attempting a 4 yd pass on 4th and 11

CGNC

I miss Nix

Posted by: BEERicane | November 02, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Now that is just the beer talking LOL

Sinistercane

Ryan William must have spit in AL face not to play

WWIN

I see why we don't go to Walford, he's SCARED and a juggler!

BEERicane

I miss Nix

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BTW..how many has walford bobbled or dropped tonight? Perhaps it's why we don't throw to the TE very much

Sinistercane

I promise my wife no Jamaican Rum this weekend for game but between P17 and NOd I'm be attending those AA meeting if this sh!t keeps up

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