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November 16, 2013

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Sinistercane

The only coaches Al Golden should return is the offense Cordinator and the wide receivers coach

Sinistercane

Sorry for the typo silly iPhone

4-Real

Love ya Soup. The CEO of CEO'S.

SOUP

Just wait until the UVA game at home.

If there are 12,000 people there (they will announce 40K) I will be surprised.

RARA


Here is the deal with the defense. Once I explain this I will shed light into Golden's internal dilemma. Al Golden wants to run a 3-4 read and react defense. When Golden got here he tried to run it in year one but the talent was so bare there was no way they could run it (fyi many teams NFL and college don't have the personnel to run it). So in year 2 they implemented more of a hybrid 3-4/4-3 defense that is read and react in nature, but the talent was still not there to run it and again the scheme is soft (the defense was the nail and not the hammer). So this year the defense has been changed to a hybrid 4-3. There are basically the 3 linemen you see in a 3-4 defense (NT, and 2 DE to play over both OT) and then a hybrid DE/LB played by Shayon Green. When he plays with his hands on the ground he plays like a traditional 4-3 DE. When he plays in a 2 point stance he is playing like a 3-4 LB, however there is never really more than 4 DL and many times its just 3 when Shayon is playing off. As a result the front 7 is often outnumbered by the OL. The first five games it was working decently well because of the improvements made by the players and the stunting done by the DL. However the gig is up and this hybrid 4-3 read and react soft defense is getting gashed. So here is Al's dilemma. If he wants to have success long term he had to scrap the idea of ever running the type of defense he truly wants to run because he won't have the time or get the players to run it because this defense and the current personnel will keep getting gashed and the top DL recruits needed to run it will never come. But that will mean that on some level the defense he knows will be viewed as a failure and that hurts his ego. That then means he not only gas to change to a 4-3 defense because that's what fits his personnel, but it is obvious D-No and Golden don't know how to run a 4-3 defense. It is also clear a read and react defense has to go in lew of an attacking defense. A big change in defensive philosophy that neither he or D-No has. Therefore his boy has to go. But he is torn because he is justifying D-No's failures by saying he had never gotten a chance to run the defense the way its supposed to be run. So for his perspective his butt buddy is going to get a raw deal if he is fired. That is the struggle. If he wants to win at The U he needs to come to the realization that he has to fire his best friend. And no matter how we feel about that that is a difficult decision for anyone to make.

Posted by: RARA | November 16, 2013 at 08:33 PM

The Dude

After the game started and we were up 10-0 and 17-7 I can honestly say, I NEVER felt like we would win. Not for a second. Its that bad. I kept thinking I should start an internet meme "Uh oh D'Onofrio." It would show people f*cking something up, and his face would be there smiling with his hands on his cheeks. Al Golden is a fool afterall. He is committed to this failure.

Terrance Sullivan

Just wait until the UVA game at home.

If there are 12,000 people there (they will announce 40K) I will be surprised.

Posted by: SOUP | November 16, 2013 at 08:48 PM
U already know.

Sinistercane

I now reserve the right to demote NOd to NOFENSE

Sinistercane

And P17 is now thrower 17 "T17

SOUP

Love ya Soup. The CEO of CEO'S.

Posted by: 4-Real | November 16, 2013 at 08:48 PM

I do what I can, but I am done.

We should meet for drinks one day.

No really, I would like that.

jsy

Question for u guys if this doesn't get dno fired what would?

Terrance Sullivan

Soup thank U for the opportunity of hanging out with U the party on the patio, Duffy's, the tailgates, the rides, the shirts, everything. I really appreciate it.

canezilla

IT'S SO BAD THAT IM NOT EVEN MAD??? I WON'T LET THIS CRAP DESTROY MY WEEKEND. LOVE MY FAMILY MORE THEN THE CANES AND THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME. NOBODY CARES ON THIS TEAM WE ARE SO FUKING SOFT!!! THE 1987 TEAM WOULD OF BEAT THIS TEAM BY 60!!! IM DONE WITH SPENDING MONEY ON AWAY GAMES. BUT WILL STILL GO TO HOME GAMES. I WILL HAVE MY SIGN THIS SATURDAY. D"NO= NO"D LOOK OUT FOR IT, WE'LL IT WON'T BE REALLY HARD ME BEING ONE OF THE 9,000 THERE

SOUP

If Golden does not announce the firing of the DC tomorrow he needs to be fired.

YEAH I SAID IT.

Account Deleted

Question for u guys if this doesn't get dno fired what would?

Posted by: jsy | November 16, 2013 at 08:56 PM

Firing AG will get it done. And it may come to that.

I predicted things would get "U"gly if they lost to Duke.....

AG must step up now and say changes will be made. He's got a chance to lose 5 straight to end the season. If so he won't be back.

Let's be honest with the NCAA deal over it won't be hard to get somone to come here..

Terrance Sullivan

Completely understand that Zilla.

SOUP

Soup thank U for the opportunity of hanging out with U the party on the patio, Duffy's, the tailgates, the rides, the shirts, everything. I really appreciate it.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | November 16, 2013 at 08:56 PM

Those were the best days of my life!

Terrance Sullivan

If Golden does not announce the firing of the DC tomorrow he needs to be fired.

YEAH I SAID IT.

Posted by: SOUP | November 16, 2013 at 08:58 PM
He needs to be fired tonight.

RARA

I still think AG is the right coach for this team, but he has to let go of his defense and he needs to fire his best friend in order to take the program to the levels it is supposed to go. He identified the problem on lack of strenght and conditioning on the team. The players are bigger, stronger, and significantly more conditioned. The players actually have the right mindset. He also is a great recruiter and that is one of the top skills you need to be a college head coach. He now needs to turn his attention to his coaches, primarily his D Coordinator. This will be a hard and personal decision should he choose to fire D'No. If he does we will ascend to where we are supposed to go. If he will not fire D'No he is not the man for the job and needs to be replaced. If D'No is indeed his best friend and AG comes and says "I have no choice" he should understand and wish AG the best.

mi@mic@ne

We used to say..hey youall the Heat Suck...eventually we will see a turn around...dont lose hope

SOUP

Well except for the days with Mrs. 86 of course!

LOL

The Dude

There is no denying that we lost this game because of Al Golden's pride. He thinks he has all of the answers defensiviely and he and his BFF are so much smarter. Al will not fire No D. He will go down for his friend and sell his "process" to some other school. Again, we need to be trying to reach Butch Davis. He can right the ship and recruit. Schiano would follow him next year.

Terrance Sullivan

Soup thank U for the opportunity of hanging out with U the party on the patio, Duffy's, the tailgates, the rides, the shirts, everything. I really appreciate it.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | November 16, 2013 at 08:56 PM

Those were the best days of my life!

Posted by: SOUP | November 16, 2013 at 09:00 PM
Those were the best days of my life as well.

SOUP

I almost lost it there. Whew!

Ohio_Cane

Put me on board.

Fire No'D.

Unacceptable, but it will be fixed by next seasons start

RARA

Soup...take a break if you must, but please reconsider making this a permanent decision. What's a canefan in Seattle supposed to do :).

Terrance Sullivan

Well except for the days with Mrs. 86 of course!

LOL

Posted by: SOUP | November 16, 2013 at 09:01 PM
I almost lost it there. Whew!

Posted by: SOUP | November 16, 2013 at 09:02 PM
Soup I knew what U meant.

SOUP

I am SO ANGRY that we lost.

I will not sleep at all tonight.

I wonder how many Miami players are already asleep on the plane home right now?

#LOSERS

CGNC

Posted by: RARA | November 16, 2013 at 08:49 PM

That is a really good post. While most of it is over my head LOL, I think I get it.

The Dude

SOUP, you can't. Think of what it will do to Grey Crow?

Terrance Sullivan

I will go to the games close by me say GT or even FSU, and probably 1 home game a year but the season ticket buying days are over. When the fans care more than the team self evaluation is a must. So thats where I am at.

SOUP

I I were Chickillo I would fight anybody on the team and punch him in the face. If I were Perryman I would choke out D'No.

If I were Tracy Howard I would walk right up to Golden and say: "We ain't playing this crap defense anymore. We are playing what we decide. Deal with it!"

Terrance Sullivan

I am SO ANGRY that we lost.

I will not sleep at all tonight.

I wonder how many Miami players are already asleep on the plane home right now?

#LOSERS

Posted by: SOUP | November 16, 2013 at 09:05 PM
Total agreement.

SOUP

SOUP, you can't. Think of what it will do to Grey Crow?

Posted by: The Dude | November 16, 2013 at 09:06 PM

OK, I may have to reconsider?

BEERicane

Chick is a major part of the defensive problem. He sucks

The Dude

"We started well. We just aren't doing enough on defense." -Al Golden after Duke loss.

Read into that what you like.

RARA

LOL CGNC...Sorry if I made it too complicated. My football mind coming out :). The jist is AG an D'No don't have the personnel or the time to bring in the personnel to run their defense. So they need to change the scheme (3-4 to 4-3) and philosophy (read and react to penetrate and attack). They have enough knowledge to run the defense they need to run (penetrate and attack 4-3) so they need to bring in someone who does. But Golden has to admit his defensive system does not work here and fire his best friend in order to win here (or any major college football program for that matter). Should have just said this the first time lol.

The Dude

He could just demote D'Onofrio and bring in an outsider? But of course he'd have to swallow his pride. That quote though is the first time I've ever seen him even come close to saying we don't know what were doing anymore.

SOUP

RaRa...right it up in detail and email it to me for a front page article:

canespace86@aol.com

4-Real

Hope to get up with u sooner than later Soup. U2 Sully. Soon as I make my Cheddar better I'll hit u up on yo e-mail. Until then, keep ya head up Space!!! LOVE ALL YALL!!! U2 WWIN.Canechic, etc...

CGNC

RARA - LOL - I think more in terms of "see ball, get ball" on defense

SOUP

How do teams run OUTSIDE on us ALL of the friggin time? Back in the day we had two slow azz white bois named Greg Mark and Rusty Medaris who NEVER got run outside on. I am about DONE with that!

Account Deleted

"We started well. We just aren't doing enough on defense." -Al Golden after Duke loss.

Posted by: The Dude | November 16, 2013 at 09:13 PM

ya think???

BEERicane

If Golden fires D?ShitNo! I will have full faith in him moving forward. I think it would be a boon for recruiting and a galvanizing move for the team. They just don't want to play for that soft system.

Terrance Sullivan

Hope to get up with u sooner than later Soup. U2 Sully. Soon as I make my Cheddar better I'll hit u up on yo e-mail. Until then, keep ya head up Space!!! LOVE ALL YALL!!! U2 WWIN.Canechic, etc...

Posted by: 4-Real | November 16, 2013 at 09:18 PM
Sounds good 4-Real.

CGNC

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CGNC

Take care 4 Real

SOUP

Wow...I just re-read it and my blog was harsh, huh?

Well, good.

RARA

Remeber when Tracy Howard was in D'No's and AG's doghouse last year because he was questioning the defensive scheme? Well Sophmore Tracy Howard should have a conversation with Freshman Tracy Howard because all the things that made him a top recruit that he was his defensive coordinator locked up (aggresive, attacking, press coverage both man and zone). AG and D'No are doing the opposite of what they ask the offense to do. They ask the offense to design a scheme that fits the players's strenghts, but are asking the defenisve player to fit the scheme, not make the scheme fit the players. AG has to make the change. The sooner the better so it doesn't hurt recruiting. It may even help them with defensive recruits.

The Dude

Ltcf, I know right? At least he has finally somewhat admitted its the defense.

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