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December 06, 2013

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Go Canes

Big recruiting weekend for our Canes.

Hope we finish it off with great news from Dixon.

herbieibis

Well, The Herb doesn't care who's defense it is, Al's Or Deno's, Al needs to stick to being the head coach and quit pacifying Deno because what ever they've tried hasn't worked. I know you can't play at high level for 12 games, you're going to have 2 or 3 games, that you don't play well but for an entire season, there is no excuse. They're wasn't any major injuries to the defense that I'm aware of, so why were we so terrible, especially at the end of the season, when you should haven't gotten better? The players say all the right things in interviews, like players weren't using the right technics or somebody was trying to do to much, etc. We must have a lot of stupid players on defense, that so many aren't doing their jobs, this late in the season. I think the term is free lancing. We've had a lot of freelancers, since DEno has been here. It's like "F" him, I'm doing it my way. I don't think they respect him as a coach.

WWIN

dj, "Fat Al" lol

Don't disrespect my coach like that!

LB

"LB well done. And broken down in a way that didn't make me dizzy (not a statistics chic here LOL)."

Cheers.

dj moonbat

I would be very happy if Fat Al turned out to be the 'Canes savior. He's not your normal redneck football coach, and I like the guy.

But he has to change his mind about some things if that's going to happen. Persistence alone will not get this job done. Al needs to do some soul-searching, and some game film watching, and realize that doing the same things, but doing them harder,will not suffice.

Sure, we'll get to the point someday where we can beat Duke or Virignia Tech again by just increasing our talent/depth. But FSU is setting the conference standard, and we're a looooong way from catching them. And catching them isn't even the goal.

roachcane77

I don't know WHY AG WOULDN'T let Va Cane come down and work some fundamentals with our D.

Gus Malzahn was a high school coach for MANY years, (as you know), and he's been extremely successful on EVERY LEVEL.

Va Cane has YEARS of PROVEN success… (That's something we CAN'T say about D'No), and I'm SURE Va Cane would be a success at the next level as well.

SOUP

OGV...those BG and NI coaches EARN their money!

Check it: Northern Illinois #14 BCS!

SOUP

Soup, drop him a hint, tell him I will coach the D for a lot less $ and with a lot more success!!!!LOL

Posted by: VA Cane | December 06, 2013 at 07:55 PM

This will be hard for MOST people to believe but trust me this much is true: If U say it on Canespace he will know about it.

That is all I am saying.

orange 'n green in the vein

http://firstrowus1.eu/watch/225818/2/watch-14-northern-illinois-vs-bowling-green.html

Want to watch what MAC coaches who aren't bad jokes of hires on the fan-base of their future better job look and coach their teams like? Just follow that link.

VA Cane

I am behind AG 100%....I want him to succeed....but we need to be upfront and honest accountable. I do like him and I want it to happen. Soup, drop him a hint, tell him I will coach the D for a lot less $ and with a lot more success!!!!LOL

SOUP

Go Canes...keep it coming, God knows we can use some positive comments around here to go with all of the Negative Nancys.

"Illegitmati Non Carborundum"

SOUP

You think the majority of real fans and heavy hitters surrounding this program don't agree with Soup?

Posted by: Go Canes | December 06, 2013 at 06:01 PM

I do think that about 65% are with us (for Golden) and 35% are against us. But about 15% of the 35% were already negative when Golden got hired. Year 4 will matter.

A LOT!

VA Cane

Once again, this is GOLDEN'S DEFENSE!!!

Do you think that D'no doesn't go over the game plan with Golden before the game?????

Great point WWIM......just like with me....anything that happens...and I have to say its all been great for us.....the parents, the school, the officials, the administration, the recreation dept.....the coaches look to me for the answers....I am accountable and I got to have the right ones. I am not saying I am the fountain the all the great things flow from....my kids are 100% responsible for winning...I just lead and guide they DO it....but it starts with me regarding accountability....and I do not see this happening...to me its either they think we are stupid....and we are not....or they just continue to lie and deny.

I may not be Saban, Miles Urban or AG....but do not doubt it.....I can coach my ass off and would be labeled an expert witness in court!!!!!!! LOL JMO

WWIN

Once again, this is GOLDEN'S DEFENSE!!!

Do you think that D'no doesn't go over the game plan with Golden before the game?????

BEERicane

Go Canes, what run stuffing, pass rushing DTs you see that will right this ship?

WWIN

^^^^^^^
Funny!

BEERicane

I'm no one's agent, I'm just enjoying the process of rebuilding our team up to where it needs to be.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 06, 2013 at 02:55 PM

This is something Golden and D?No!'s agent would say. : )

VA Cane

I want it to happen believe me I do....but I see such a lack of fundamental skills that should have been learned long ago.....and reemphasized and taught every day...not just D.....on O and STs as well.....it all starts as the foundation the rock.....build on that rock and you build a contender, bypass the solid foundation for quick fixes with smoke mirrors, hope and change, easy excuses and you continue to be where you were...Mediocrity.....and that's not good enough for me....I want to go undefeated 10 years straight......never happen....but chasing perfection may allow me to catch excellence.....practice may not make perfect.....but perfect practice will take you a long ways toward excellence....JMO and coaching theory....seems to work for me...

VA Cane

I promise you this....we will never ever ever ever win a Division title, ACC title or NC with this kind of defense, this kind of execution, this level of fundamentals, this happy go lucky make an excuse aw shucks we tried ncca cloud its a process defense. My kids just pitched 4 shout outs in a row....35-0 28-0 28-0 and 30-0 to win the 5th title in 6 years.....ok yuk it up yea put me down they are kids 13 year olds they do not matter right? I disagree. I have film of all games, and I watch constantly. My kids, pound for pound year for year agewise execute the fundamentals far superior than we do...especially on D. Why? cause we coach it over and over and over .....once they get it....we add more complex schemes, formations, signals, concepts.....that we build upon that rock of FUNDAMENTALS!!!!

Saban, Miles, Urban, Spurrier, JJ, Bo, Woody, Bear, Ara, McKay, Switzer, HS, Erickson, Osborne, Eddie Robinson....the greats...oh and Beamer....(LOL just for you OBV)!!!!......Hey even Vince, Noll, Shula, Walsh...How many won 5 of 6? None....but the VA Cane has.....why? great players who listened learned executed the fundamentals in a passionate disciplined aggressive positive TEAM way.....

I am nothing like those greats at all.....but I do know how to coach, teach, motivate and lead.....I develop my players and the believe in what I say...

Sounds funny huh? but its facts....Fundamentally sound players with outgoing coaches constantly teaching, guiding, praising, disciplining and developing them into stewards of the game and in life....that's my way

dj moonbat

So yes I'm thrilled.

Posted by: Go Canes! | December 06, 2013 at 06:58 PM


Wow. That is some potent stuff. Don't operate any heavy machinery.

Go Canes!

It is awesome to me.

I see kids like Howard, McCord, Muhammad and Bush becoming All-ACC players.

I see the defensive tackle position, by far our biggest problem this season being addressed in a way that shows our staff has been working their tails off.

I see more explosive offensive playmakers and dominant defenders committing with more on the way.

I see kids like Mark Walton, who will be the top running back in Dade next year already ready to sign because our staff has been on him from day one.

I see us building something, even under the worst circumstances imaginable.

So yes I'm thrilled.

Montreal-Cane

I still believe that Golden is going to win and win big at Miami for a long, long time. But, that comes with a major caveat: That is only IF he fixes the defense, and soon.

Posted by: SOUP | December 06, 2013 at 04:45 PM

Yes sir! I'm with you in the majority. Go Canes! Go 2014 recruits! With this class the U is back.

Montreal-Cane

Very interesting comment from Larry Blustein on WQAM this morning on Joseph Yearby and Dalvin Cook and all the recruits from central and BTW going to UM...Here is the link to listen...

http://wqam.com/2013/12/06/larry-blustein-4/

SinisterCane

He's in the minority according to who sinister?You think the majority of real fans and heavy hitters surrounding this program don't agree with Soup?

You are so far off,

Posted by: Go Canes | December 06, 2013 at 06:01 PM

No, not according to SinsterCane but the stat sheet that was 116 out 120 for total defense in 2012 and currently sitting at 76 out of 120 and if a 40 spot jump from the bottom of the urinal is improvement to you then more power to you.

We're almost into year 4 with the same coaching intact, name 1 thing AL/NOFENSE has improved on D that gives you hope

CalgaryCane

I think Golden would be a fantastic head coach...if he could get away from his BFF.

CGNC

LB well done. And broken down in a way that didn't make me dizzy (not a statistics chic here LOL).

roachcane77

I still believe that Golden is going to win and win big at Miami for a long, long time. But, that comes with a major caveat: That is only IF he fixes the defense, and soon.
Posted by: SOUP | December 06, 2013 at 04:45 PM

I agree with SOUP… "That is only IF he fixes the defense, and soon."

Problem is, I don't see THAT happening.

laquinton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toSFc3rPAzA

Not sure if anybody saw this but this is great from clinton. Love it !

Go Canes

He's in the minority according to who sinister?

You think the majority of real fans and heavy hitters surrounding this program don't agree with Soup?

You are so far off,

Sinistercane

I still believe that Golden is going to win and win big at Miami for a long, long time. But, that comes with a major caveat: That is only IF he fixes the defense, and soon.

Posted by: SOUP | December 06, 2013 at 04:45 PM

Your in the Minority

UpNorthCane27

It would be a damn shame if Golden's downfall is his inability to fire D'no and hire someone who can get the job done..

CalgaryCane

1) U don't think they went around lamenting: "How could a little, tiny, puny, punky, weak private school in Coral Gables beat those traditional college powerhouses?"
onships?

2) You think their coaches, players and fans ever thought it was even possible?

Posted by: SOUP | December 06, 2013 at 04:58 PM

1. Yes, they went into denial.

2. No, they went into denial.

Terrance Sullivan

Soup agree with all except the Crocs hadnt won jack crap by then they didnt win nothing for another decade. Florida wasnt a powerhouse until the 90's but all the other schools indeed.

j.w.

Willie- actually, based on this year's recruiting class, I'd say he responded well. :) Hoping we can duplicate what Duke BB just did in recruiting.

SOUP

I have another example for you: Back in the 1980s when Miami first burst onto the college football scene and started beating the Nebraskas, Oklahomas, Alabamas, Notre Dames, Michigans and Florida's of college football do you think that their fans were just overjoyed or pleased by that turn of events?

U don't think they went around lamenting: "How could a little, tiny, puny, punky, weak private school in Coral Gables beat those traditional college powerhouses?"

You think they liked losing to Miami after all those years of winning championships?

You think their coaches, players and fans ever thought it was even possible?

Well that is how Miami fans feel about losing to Duke now. The exact same way. We don't like it. Is it really that hard to understand? Really?

WWIN

2. I bet Coach K did something differently after losing to Miami and then losing in the ACC title last season.

Posted by: SOUP | December 06, 2013 at 04:40 PM

They didn't do much, besides going to the gym to practice as soon as the touched down in Durham at around about 3am. What did the canes do in vice versa you say?

j.w.

1. Given those facts, it is not unreasonable for MIami fans to EXPECT to beat Duke.

2. It is not unreasonable for Miami fans to demand that the coaches view that loss as a wake-up call and start doing something differently.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 06, 2013 at 02:57 PM

1. Just as it was reasonable for Duke fans to expect to beat Miami in basketball. Do U think the Duke BB fans took it well when we beat Duke AND won the ACC title last year? HELL NO they didn't! Go read their boards when that happened and U will read the same things we are saying. Except they have Coach K who has a tremnedous history of WINNING to fall back on and maintain the expectation that they are gonna do it again soon. That is not the scenario with UM football right now. Hell Coker almost won TWO consecutive titles and he got run out of town just three years later!

2. I bet Coach K did something differently after losing to Miami and then losing in the ACC title last season.

Posted by: SOUP | December 06, 2013 at 04:40 PM

Amen to all of that

SOUP

I still believe that Golden is going to win and win big at Miami for a long, long time. But, that comes with a major caveat: That is only IF he fixes the defense, and soon.

SOUP

^^^^^^^^^^^^ Don't get confused moonbat, I hope you get that I was AGREEING with you there. Right? Right.

SOUP

1. Given those facts, it is not unreasonable for MIami fans to EXPECT to beat Duke.

2. It is not unreasonable for Miami fans to demand that the coaches view that loss as a wake-up call and start doing something differently.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 06, 2013 at 02:57 PM

1. Just as it was reasonable for Duke fans to expect to beat Miami in basketball. Do U think the Duke BB fans took it well when we beat Duke AND won the ACC title last year? HELL NO they didn't! Go read their boards when that happened and U will read the same things we are saying. Except they have Coach K who has a tremnedous history of WINNING to fall back on and maintain the expectation that they are gonna do it again soon. That is not the scenario with UM football right now. Hell Coker almost won TWO consecutive titles and he got run out of town just three years later!

2. I bet Coach K did something differently after losing to Miami and then losing in the ACC title last season.

SOUP

This Date in Hurricanes History, December 6th, 1986, brought to you by the UM Sports Hall of Fame...

UMSHoF member Vinny Testaverde becomes the FIRST Miami Hurricanes football player to be named the winner of the prestigious Heisman Trophy award!

Vinny's margin of victory in the balloting is the 5th largest margin of victory in the awards history. He tallied 2,213 points to 2nd place Temple University's Paul Palmer's 672 points. He captured all 6 regions of the country, and his 678 first place votes (out of 1,050 registered electors) tied Doug Flutie's record for most first place votes.

thirstybuzzardcane

I think these FSU fans spent a little to much time in Gainesville last weekend!!!


http://msn.foxsports.com/college-football/story/whitley-fsu-s-winston-not-charged-but-justice-remains-matter-of-perspective-120513?related=a0aae8dc-3efb-4e57-bdc3-41b480efef05

Ohio_Cane

**OFF TOPIC**

Scariest commercial ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vnY3k3ynqk

Terrance Sullivan

I am not an alum. Just a fan of Miami Hurricanes athletics and want all the programs to do well especially football, basketball, and baseball. I do think its great to have a good academic school as well. For those that dont know Miami is a private school and only will take in certain students. To the alums mad love for ya. I am just one passionate Canes fan that wants to see these programs win. Go Canes!

Ohio_Cane

Jamie Newberg ‏@JamieNewberg 3m

Travante Valentine just said he's solid w #canes but will make ovs to #lsu #alabama #miami in Jan. Canes get final visit

Ohio_Cane

UpNorth, no doubt it's doable, but man is that a tough draw!

Germany and Portugal are legit and will be out for revenge, and Ghana is always good against us.

CaneSawMassacre

Ohio - Are Dline is awful...

I watched them only the last few games and they generate no push, no gap control and expose our linebackers to abuse.

Even Chickillo and Green are marginally talented. Our DTS are straight garbage which doesn't help our ends much.

Every time the ball is snapped I see holes the size of the Mariana Trench.

UpNorthCane27

Ohio and VFB_Cane i know USA's group is tough but dont forget USA HAS beaten both teams before, Portugal in the world cup in korea and Germany this past Year. I see USA pulling a shocker and eliminating Portugal and advancing with Germany.

On the other hand im so happy about my Colombia's draw!!!

Cnt wait till June for the World Cup this draw was a tease!!!

Ohio_Cane

Recruits that are visiting this weekend:

(There may be more I don't know of)

Johnnie Dixon
Joseph Yearby
Dalvin Cook
KC McDermott
Trevor Darling
Corey Johnson
Nick Linder

Ohio_Cane

Pete Ariz: 11:40 AM - Despite rumors that Ryheem Lockley would be here this weekend for a visit, that is not the case. I was told that the Miami coaches are still expecting him in this class and he will start out as a TE. If he does not make it on a visit next weekend, he might not be an EE.

dj moonbat

You guys have got to get over that game. It is possible for non traditional powers to bring in a good coach and after a few years put together a talented and experienced team. We don't deserve to win just because we are UM and they are Duke.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 06, 2013 at 01:42 PM


Who cares about "deserve"? In the last 30 years, Miami won 5 national championships, lost the championship game three times, and was in the mix most seasons except during the mid-90s probation. Duke, not so much.

Given those facts, it is not unreasonable for MIami fans to EXPECT to beat Duke. It is not unreasonable for Miami fans to demand that the coaches view that loss as a wake-up call and start doing something differently.

For G-d's sake: when players were tweeting about their embarrassment, Golden should have said, "you know, I'm embarrassed too. This is a *(&%ing disgrace." Instead, he made sure to tell the press that the players misspoke.

Go Canes

I did predict that yes. And it didn't happen why?

Our defense that held them to six second half points and zero in the fourth quarter or our offense that couldnt get out of it's own way until late?

I'm no one's agent, I'm just enjoying the process of rebuilding our team up to where it needs to be.

You all enjoy, well frowm what I've seen here you guys pretty much don't enjoy anything, win or lose.

SinisterCane

Go Canes = D?No!

I kid....

Posted by: BEERicane | December 06, 2013 at 02:27 PM

Or his agent

BEERicane

Go Canes = D?No!

I kid....

orange 'n green in the vein

Says the guy who predicted a two touchdown victory over North Carolina is his 'debut' here due to the extra week of preparation for the coaches to use . . .

Ripping = "justifiable by performance critique," but then again, I type unencumbered by orange and green pom poms so maybe you tried to reach those keys and got the other word typed instead?

Nah. Every post you make is an excuse for the poor performance by the coaches, it was obviously intentional.

Go Canes

Yes it is possible, it's actually happening right now as our staff sits in living rooms across South Florida.

You're just too busy ripping the guy who's doing it to see that.

orange 'n green in the vein

It's also more possible that a program that put together an unprecedented run of championship success and contention located in the per capita leader of NFL future players to do the same or even better.

As long as they don't hire from Temple that is.

Now back to ignoring the pom pom waiving disguised as excuse making trolling for this coaching staff. Couldn't resist for some reason, must be the lack of puff puff before passing today?

Go Canes

This statement, which is very well said, can be substituted for the Duke loss:

2. I love academic standards I don't care if a guy cannot get in that's life...and everybody is not entitled to everything just because they breathe.

You guys have got to get over that game. It is possible for non traditional powers to bring in a good coach and after a few years put together a talented and experienced team. We don't deserve to win just because we are UM and they are Duke.

Did you all feel that way when our basketball team did the reverse last season?

No.

They put together a good team this year, a 10 win team, and beat a team that's still trying to rebuild after numerous setbacks.

You all act like they were 1-10.

WWIN

For the one million, fifty thousand, and twenty fifth time...

It's Golden's head you want not D'no's!

How many times does he have to say that he signs off on EVERYTHING in the building for y'all to believe him???

If it was really D'no's defense, don't you think Golden would have gotten rid of him by now???

Go back and look at Golden's stats as a DC and tell me what you find???

Anyways, has Golden ever fired a assistant coach before???

herbieibis

The Herb is glad to see after I have bitched on hear for three years everyone is jumping on the bandwagon, bitching about our no-face De-line. Okay, Deno has proven he can't coach mediocre to below average talent or even to get them to play better than they are. A good coordinator, could take nothing and make something of it. Goldie has to take some of this blame because he can't recruit a defensive tackle for his buddy. He left him on an Island by himself, with those last 2 years wiff jobs at that position. I mean, no disrespect to the young men, but could any of us actually stop a cold with, who golden has brought in at the De-tackle position since he has been here? King, Ivery, Moore, all at 6'1. Briscoe, Smith. Ivery & Briscoe have adiosed it. Hamilton, Grimball, & Pierre, were all brought in as DE's. Grimball, is gone and Hamilton is on the scout team. iIn three years, that's who he has brought in, at DT, was those 5 guys. Now granted Deno suks but so does our recruiting at that position. aside from Perryman, we have no star power at LB, at least not yet. No wonder we get gutted by retread schools because our talent at those 2 positions is on par, with the Dukes, Wakes and Virginia's. That's right, they match us talent wise at those positions.

By the way, the stat above about us having 18 sacks last year is wrong, we only had 13.

Deno has proven that he can't work with inferior talent, I wonder what he could do if he actually had some? Bits and pieces does not make a defense. In order for us to improve defensively, as I have told you guys forever is get the DT position stabilized, with an influx of some talent, give me 2 LB's that are willing to blow you up and are SMART. Our secondary just has to toughen up a little, especially Howard and we will be solid. Sounds like a lot but we really only are 4 players short and possibly a coach to make that side of the ball solid. The Herb knows this, trust me!

BEERicane

Duke will beat FSU. That's the only way I'll feel better about losing to them. Not gonna happen, so I'll never feel any better about it.

VfB_Cane

Ohio: Especially considering that during World Cups, I usually walk around in a German jersey (hell, half the country does), but followed the US women's team during the WC 2011 all the way to the final. So, I'll have to pull for a draw and hope both teams advance to the knock-out stages.

SinisterCane

Wait, wait, wait...I thought Duke played FOR us?

Posted by: SOUP | December 06, 2013 at 01:11 PM

You know the one that toasted NOFENSE for 500 yds. lol

Ohio_Cane

Quick soccer newsflash ...

World Cup 2014 opening round draw: USA, Germany, Portugal and Ghana in Group G.

Posted by: VfB_Cane | December 06, 2013 at 12:45 PM
-----------------------------------------

Awful, AWFUL draw... Wow.

SOUP

We lost to Duke

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 06, 2013 at 01:06 PM

Wait, wait, wait...I thought Duke played FOR us?

SOUP

AND DUKE AND VT

Posted by: canezilla | December 06, 2013 at 01:03 PM

U had to go there didn't U? I think my head exploded. LOL

SOUP

1. Well....I deal with a lot of kids all the time....probably more than a lot of people....talked to any lately? Its scary how they are educated.

2. I love academic standards I don't care if a guy cannot get in that's life...and everybody is not entitled to everything just because they breathe.

Posted by: VA Cane | December 06, 2013 at 12:57 PM

1. I deal with young people all the time for work and I agree, some are great and have it together but most of the time, IT IS SCARY!

2. Agree 100%.

SinisterCane

We lost to Duke

SinisterCane

At the end of the day coaching gave it away

BEERicane

I love academic standards I don't care if a guy cannot get in that's life...and everybody is not entitled to everything just because they breathe.

Posted by: VA Cane | December 06, 2013 at 12:57 PM

OH MY GOD, finally a sane voice rises up from the crowd!

SinisterCane

BeerCane sorry for any confusion but I'm not a UM alum or any college for that matter. I went to the school of hard knocks USN

canezilla


With the talent we will have on offense in 2014 it should be doable in MOST games, except when we play FSU.

Posted by: 86Cane | December 06, 2013 at 10:36 AM
AND DUKE AND VT

BEERicane

Sinister, glad to hear you are an alum as well. The main point was a theoretical one on that the value of the degree is reflected by the impression of the academic prestige of the university, not the football team. I grant you that most people on here that are alums are past the need for intrinsic value of the degree (as I happen to be) but I'd much rather have the graduates of the U (undergrad, medical, etc) enjoy much success. This is an easier task to accomplish if the academic standards are upheld and the football program erodes, rather than the converse. I'd much rather see the university succeed academically and the football be mediocre rather than the academics slip to the level of FIU and dominate football. But that's just me. It's all good, my friend.

j.w.

I'am an alum, and I think Shalala is part of the problem. We got into this mess because our athletic dept. was starving for money, our football team was having difficulty recruiting due to tougher standards than most of our opponents, and we went cheap on hiring coaches. I just don't see any evidence that she was oblivious to all of the problems out there and I further submit that her insistence on raising standards for athletes (Cal of all schools doesn't even do this) hurt. I'm glad UM is is an excellent school, and when we were ranked in the top 40 it was pretty darned cool. But I'm wondering when we'll start working creatively to find a way to do both. Here's one idea of how to lower the cost of althetic scholarships: http://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page/magazine/article/?article_id=32301

I know, UM doesn't have that kind of endowment, but if you could cut the cost of tuition, imagine how good our non-revenue (think: Baseball!) sports could be.

Sinistercane

Gary Kubiak fired! So where does Andre Johnson play next year?

VA Cane

I will never have a problem with high academic standards....essential to life. My niece graduated UM she is very smart and learned a lot. I have an 18 yr old son; it scares me where our education system is going. You saw the numbers from the govt this week. Some say they are scare tactics for more money to go with the trillions that go into the entire education system in this nation. Well....I deal with a lot of kids all the time....probably more than a lot of people....talked to any lately? Its scary how they are educated. I love academic standards I don't care if a guy cannot get in that's life...and everybody is not entitled to everything just because they breathe.

Sinistercane

BeerCane

I'm no a alum but neither is 1/2 of the fan base. When UM was winning big I don't think there was much talk about academics but I do respect the prestige want your degree to have :)

VA Cane

he would have won and won huge


Cmon OBV you must be thinking about your Daddy Urban and your brother Timmy....

RS could have been given a life contract and would have never won huge, The man is not a head coach; he hates people cannot get along with them, he's an introvert with a narcissistic chip on his shoulder who feels he's been dogged and done wrong all his life. He was never going to win big with his attitude. He alienated many of the old guard by how he treated them. I know a former TE from my neck of the woods whom I coached in an all star game when he was young. He played at UM and we talk still today....on Shannon he told me once....Coach he would not like you because you are white. I do not know how true that rings, but my guy is pretty open and honest with me....I could see one might get that feeling....I don't know. For the record that is so wrong a bad way to be. I have a former BIL who is so racist....he hates Pres because he is black....what an uneducated idiot to feel like that. I like Pres because he is a person....might not agree on everything but he is a good man. I also think Shannon is a good man....just not a nice man or good HC.

VfB_Cane

^^^ Quick, not "Quich"

VfB_Cane

Quich soccer newsflash ...

World Cup 2014 opening round draw: USA, Germany, Portugal and Ghana in Group G.

SOUP

I just don't get it.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 06, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Most of what you say is correct and accurate. There are some positives to take from the season.

But the bottom line for 90% of UM fans was an ACC title game or BUST for 2013. We busted. And losing to Duke and allowing them to know The U outta the ACC title game really sucked. I mean REALLY!

BEERicane

Sinister, if all you care about is the football team, then clearly you are not an alum and can have such narrow interests. I stand to share in the university's academic success directly, while I do (perhaps I should say would) enjoy football success, it does nothing for my professional life. Therefore, UMs success as a university is my success. I do not stand to profit from secondary gain with the football team.

Sinistercane

Look Donna is part of the problem , we just lost out on a good DT to Auburn who is smart enough to get into college but does not meet donna's standard for admission. Maybe I'm misinformed but what has she done for UM football because all I see is 2 fired coaching staff for being cheap and a NCAA investigation

VA Cane

the very talented roster Shannon had in place

The average talent he had and did not know how to use because he was a biased introverted grouch who resented the world and blamed society for his tough life. He played so many favorites and was an ass about a lot of things. God Almighty could not have won with that roster it was not as talented as people want to believe. All those guys from MNW that were supposed to be football Gods......I don't see them burning up the NFL at this time.....don't know where they are. He was not a good head coach and they were not top players....bottom line.

Nobody wants him as a head coach because they saw the way he was as a person; others have said it was for other reasons but I feel it was because of the way he treated people in general...he was a jerk. All you got to do is look at that mug....the Grinch that stole football!!!

raizecane

While we are on the subject, do you know how many undefeated seasons Nick Saban has?

One

Les Miles

Zero

Mark Richt

Zero

Steve Spurrier

Zero

Posted by: Go Canes | December 06, 2013 at 11:14

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And what do all those coaches have in commom? three letters..... SEC. Going undefeated is almost impossible yet they have won the last 6. Please don't compare the SEC with the ACC. It's not even close.

VfB_Cane

So, most here seem to agree that without a new DC, things are not going to change.
We all know that (at least at this point) Golden is not going to make that move. Howver, most would like Golden to stick around for at least another year.

Now, given this situation, I tried to come up with a scenario that might work.

Take your mind back to mid-January, when our coaching staff looked like this:
HC: Al Golden
DC and assistant head coach: Mark D'Onofrio
OC: Jedd Fisch
TE coach and associate head coach: Mario Cristobal

A similar structure could be:
HC: Al Golden
DC and associate head coach: N.N.
OC: James Coley
Special teams and assistant head coach: Mark D'Onofrio

In this scenario, Golden could keep D'No around, who'd save face because he'd still be assistant HC.
Plus, we'd avoid the potential turmoil a coaching change might bring in the middle of recruiting season.

Go Canes

I've read some wild stuff on here, some of it really laughable, but blaming Shalala for the state of the football program has to top the list.

And I repeat again, after enduring the worst NCAA scandal since SMU we still went 9-3 and have perhaps the best recruiting class in America on the way right?

Did I dream the wins and we actually went 3-9?

I just don't get it.

SOUP

All I care about is UM football

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 06, 2013 at 12:20 PM

We can all see that you are a well rounded individual.

SinisterCane


Blaming this on Donna is a joke. Without her giant political and powerful balls, we could be in a much bigger mess. She is the singular most influential college president in the country and the university as a whole is in a much better position than it would be without her. University research dollars are way up (which translates to $$$ in the pockets of the university directly). Several improvements has been made in the infrastructure of the medical school and research facilities. She helped spearhead the efforts to raise $850M to upgrade JMH (something the county as a whole desperately needed). Her job as university president is to enhance the position of the university as a whole, not win football games. Sure, argue that wins translate into dollars but those win-related dollars go back into athletics not so much the general university funds. However, general university funds can go into athletics. This is on the coaches and staff of the football program not Donna. Please stop with that nonsense.

Posted by: BEERicane | December 06, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Thank you for sharing those thoughts, now if you don't agree with me then that is fine but isn't a coincidence when she came to tha U in 2001 I believe is when we started our decline due to her wanting to be Sanford/Harvard of the south raising admission standards thus redirecting all of our elite south FL talent to the SEC. I'm not ignoring the fact that we have a shi!!y coaching staff but who's approval is needed for these hires? Donna tenure as President has seen 2 fired coaching staff with the fan base gearing up for a third, a NCAA investigation with the Admin opening the door for a rouge booster and let not forget her spiritual counsel adviser in Barry Alveres. I don't give a sh!! what she did in the Clinton admin or what's she plan to do in Hillary's future admin, top 25 grad rates. All I care about is UM football

SOUP

This is on the coaches and staff of the football program not Donna. Please stop with that nonsense.

Posted by: BEERicane | December 06, 2013 at 11:58 AM

TOTALLY AGREE.

jsy

He's still at lsu. I want getting him back to be Al's top priority but it's wishful thinking. He's been turning thise lsu boys into men. Their roster purely from a physical standpoint reminds me alot of how our guys used to be

BEERicane

Blaming this on Donna is a joke. Without her giant political and powerful balls, we could be in a much bigger mess. She is the singular most influential college president in the country and the university as a whole is in a much better position than it would be without her. University research dollars are way up (which translates to $$$ in the pockets of the university directly). Several improvements has been made in the infrastructure of the medical school and research facilities. She helped spearhead the efforts to raise $850M to upgrade JMH (something the county as a whole desperately needed). Her job as university president is to enhance the position of the university as a whole, not win football games. Sure, argue that wins translate into dollars but those win-related dollars go back into athletics not so much the general university funds. However, general university funds can go into athletics. This is on the coaches and staff of the football program not Donna. Please stop with that nonsense.

SinisterCane


Over the last couple years watching college football the team that reminds me the most of the early 2000s hurricanes from a size/strength/speed standpoint is lsu. Their sc coach is tommy moffitt the same sc coach under butch. I don't think that lsus rise coinciding with his arrival and our slow decline beginning after he left is purely coincidence. I wish al would get that guy back on staff first and foremost.

Posted by: jsy | December 06, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Didn't know he left LSU. Where is he coaching know?

jsy

Over the last couple years watching college football the team that reminds me the most of the early 2000s hurricanes from a size/strength/speed standpoint is lsu. Their sc coach is tommy moffitt the same sc coach under butch. I don't think that lsus rise coinciding with his arrival and our slow decline beginning after he left is purely coincidence. I wish al would get that guy back on staff first and foremost.

SinisterCane

BIG TEN coaching mentality "Penn ST" with BIG TEN Admin "WI", Donna is hell bent on becoming Harvard of the South while turning her back on the football the made UM into tha U. every time I see that commercial with Donna saying" It's all about tha U" I want to throw up, we basically have Donna impersonated the Marlins Owner ruining UM football

BEERicane

We have no D line. None. Until we get some (I'll take one at this point) playmakers on DL, it's no use. Will always be a failure on D. We have no one on this roster and I don't see any upgrades in the near future. Then add to that a complete lack of a defensive backfield, especially at S, it's not a surprise we are so horrid. The difference is, I think we can correct the S position a lot quicker than DL. These next 2 years we will have to win shoot-outs. At least if we are winning,at least it should be exciting (albeit stressful).

BEERicane

86, I'd say what's worse than those stats is that I'm not taken aback or shocked by it in the least. Hell, I'm surprised it's not worse.

SinisterCane

Cant' we just leave a horse head on his front porch to scare off NOFENSE.

It's great that we're getting a influx of good talent on defense but the question is once they get here will they get any better? Jelani Hamilton is a perfect example of Elite talent meeting piss poor water boy coaching

jsy

Do we have the worst defensive roster in the acc? Finishing 116 then dead last in the acc is not acceptable no matter what our talent is its not last in acc bad. Changes have to be made.

86Cane

BEER...of the three schools U mentioned that UM sees itself "compared to" Duke and and Vandy had BETTER defensive stats than UM and only NW was worse statistically on D:

Total Defense: Vandy 32, Duke 52, UM 72, NW 82

Scoring Defense: Duke 36, Vandy 51, UM 55, NW 66

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