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December 06, 2013

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Old Skool

really

LB

That is hysterical (the introduction, not the facts).

TJL

Johnny Bravo

VfB_Cane

Great stuff, LB.
What I take from those numbers:
1) We are stuck in neutral on defense. It's not getting better, but also not a lot worse.
2) Without altering the overall approach, next year will be more of the same, resulting in a winning record, a bowl game, while missing out on an Coastal division title once again.
3) If our current staff can put their ego aside, admit that their approach has failed to produce the expected results, and change it, they might get the job done by 2015.
4) If they don't, it's adios and good bye after the 2014 season.

nemo2002

Buongiorno!

VfB_Cane

From the last blog:


On another note, Nelson Mandela, one of the greatest men of our time, passed away yesterday at the age of 95.

Ask yourself this: If somebody locks you up in prison for 27 years for demanding something that is common sense in almost any other country in the world, wouldn't you become bitter, or revengeful, or cynical over the years?
Mandela, after being released from prison, showed none of that. Instead, he promoted reconciliation, became a great leader of his country, showed to the world how a divided nation can be overcome racism, and exemplified a contagious joy for all the little things in life, especially sports (If you've got 10 mintues to spare, watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKSq6mTnm_A about 1995 Rugby World Cup, hosted and won by South Africa -- so many inspirational quotes to fill a blog with meaning).

If all of us had only a fraction of his greatness in us, the world would be a much better place. RIP, Nelson Mandela.

UMike

Ariz workin...

Buford High School (Ga.) Safety Tre Neal (6-3, 185) is coming down the stretch towards making his college decision and Miami has made the final cut.

“I have about 24 offers with my top 3 being Miami, UCF, and Vanderbilt. I narrowed to that list a couple of weeks ago so now I’m going to take my visits and then make my decision,” said Neal.

The lengthy prospect described how his Canes offer came about.

“They had been recruiting me earlier in the summer, but didn’t offer me at the time. Then they got ahold of my senior film in about early October and I talked to Coach Barrow and he told one of my coaches that they offered me.”

The Miami staff thinks highly enough of Neal to compare him to a budding star already in the program.

“They said that I remind them a lot of Deon Bush, who plays for them right now.”

Next up for Neal is setting the date for his official, which will probably take place next month.

“They are trying to get me to set up my official. I’m still in the state playoffs so I’ll probably wait until January.”

What is Neal looking forward to on his visit to Miami?

“I want to see the football facilities and spend a lot of time with the coaches because I’m going to be there for the next 4-5 years possibly, so I definitely want to like where I’m going and be comfortable with the lifestyle I’ll be living. Football doesn’t last forever and Miami is a great school academically so I want to maybe follow a student around for a day and see how he’s living his life academic-wise. It’s a private school, so that’s a great opportunity.”

Of his three finalists, Miami is the farthest distance from his home. That won’t negatively affect the Canes chances.

“At one point, I was getting recruited by Stanford and my mom told me if I could go there, to go, and that’s on the other side of the country. My mom knows it’s kind of time for me to get out of here anyways in a couple of months so she’s not worried about how far away I’ll be.”

Neal won’t be rushing into a choice.

“As of right now, I don’t think I’ll be making an early decision. I’m going to Central Florida next weekend on my official, and then Vanderbilt on the first weekend of January, and probably Miami the week after that. Once I see everywhere I need to go, I’ll commit.”

http://www.canesinsight.com/content/2176-Miami-in-top-3-for-Georgia-Safety-Neal

UMike

Tito workin...

Miami is still very much in play with Immokalee (Fla.) defensive back JC Jackson. Jackson was recently visited by Paul Williams and Mark D’Onofrio for an in home visit. Technically speaking, Al Golden can still visit JC Jackson for his in-home as all head coaches are granted one in-home visit per prospect. Jackson will be looking to officially visit Miami sometime in January and possibly visit Florida as well. Do not count out the Seminoles in this position. Jackson is very comfortable with their staff and they are now open to him playing defensive back, which they originally weren’t. One advantage for Miami is that his parents are in favor of the ‘Canes right now due to the close distance and appealing depth chart. This one will go on until signing day.

JUCO DL Claudeson Pelon is planning on announcing his college choice on December 18th. It looks like Miami will get his last official visit with schools like USC, Washington, UCF and Arizona State in play. This looks like a two-man race as of right now with Miami and USC in front. Washington fell out of the mix when Steve Sarkisian took the job with the Trojans and brought along defensive line coach Tosh Lupoi. If Miami can sway him enough on the opportunity for early playing time and playing in front of family, the Canes will be in great shape. Pelon is an early enrollee for those wondering.

Miami is beginning to get its early enrollee’s in place and here are the confirmed ones so far: Joe Yearby, K.C McDermott, Trevor Darling, Braxton Berrios, Brandon Powell, Juwon Young and Darrion Owens. While many may not see this as a big deal, getting these guys in early is a tremendous boost of help for Miami considering that it helps in positions of need. Miami will need to rotate one true freshman next year in the offensive line and with Darling and McDermott heading in early this gives them an opportunity to gain experience and learn the playbook earlier.

For the linebackers group, both Young and Owens are most likely going to have to play right away next year with Perryman most likely leaving to the NFL and with Jimmy Gaines and Tyrone Cornelius graduating. That leaves Miami only with Raphael Kirby, Alex Figueroa, and Thurston Armbrister as returning experienced players. Granted Jermaine Grace can step in from playing mostly special teams last year, but it’s definitely clear that Owens and Young will be called on early.

While Miami is still in the mix for Central running back Dalvin Cook, I would still expect them to push heavily for Sony Michel to take an official visit. Michel’s interest still remains low right now, but with his brother most likely staying at UMass, it opens the door for Miami to keep pushing for him. As of right now, the chances Michel officially visits are slim, but it’s something to monitor going forward.

http://www.canesinsight.com/content/2175-Tito%92s-Tidbits-Pt-2

UMike

Coley visited Cook in-home last night

UMike

Golden had a in-home with Berrios

UMike

From Thread Killa @ CIS


Future Canes/Targets in the 2014 all-star games

Semper Fidelis
5 JAN 2014, Carson, CA

East: Reilly Gibbons, Anthony Moten

West: Brad Kaaya

http://247sports.com/Article/2014-Se...rosters-156373


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US Army
4 JAN 2014, San Antonio, TX

Johnnie Dixon, Travonte Valentine

http://usarmyallamericanbowl.com/players/player-roster


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Under Armour
2 JAN 2014, St. Petersburg, FL

Joe Yearby, Dalvin Cook, Ermon Lane, Kc McDermott, Chad Thomas, J.C. Jackson, Trevor Darling, Braxton Berrios

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/fo...ruiting/honors

TJL

Coley should camp out at Cook's house

Ohio_Cane

Coley should camp out at Cook's house

Posted by: TJL | December 06, 2013 at 08:53 AM
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I'm setting him up a sleeping bag and cot as I type this.

86Cane

That is hysterical (the introduction, not the facts).

Posted by: LB | December 06, 2013 at 07:15 AM

I thought U might get a kick out of that!

86Cane

Coley should camp out at Cook's house

Posted by: TJL | December 06, 2013 at 08:53 AM
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I'm setting him up a sleeping bag and cot as I type this.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 06, 2013 at 09:09 AM
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I'll set up the tent in the back yard.

86Cane

Under Armour
2 JAN 2014, St. Petersburg, FL

Joe Yearby, Dalvin Cook, Ermon Lane, Kc McDermott, Chad Thomas, J.C. Jackson, Trevor Darling, Braxton Berrios

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/fo...ruiting/honors

Posted by: UMike | December 06, 2013 at 08:40 AM

I'll be at the practices all week at Wide World of Sports at Disney.

SinisterCane

It's funny how AL being a former TE from Penn ST and moved to the other side of the ball coaching defense has the same stench as the Philadelphia Eagles when they promoted their OL coach to defense coordinator last year. Al's " who's the next Heisman candidate defensive scheme" has NEVER stop anyone at tha U, Temple or UVA.

That is all

86Cane

Roster for Under Armour Game:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/honors

Look at the #1 DT and the #1 S near the top of the list.

86Cane

https://www.facebook.com/UnderArmourGame

Ohio...look at ya boi Ferns top left of the UA Facebook page.

SinisterCane



Roster for Under Armour Game:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/honors

Look at the #1 DT and the #1 S near the top of the list.

Posted by: 86Cane | December 06, 2013 at 09:23 AM


Al would have that DT playing S and the S playing back with the punter

Ohio_Cane

https://www.facebook.com/UnderArmourGame

Ohio...look at ya boi Ferns top left of the UA Facebook page.

Posted by: 86Cane | December 06, 2013 at 09:28 AM
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Yep. Proud of him. I posted UA Game's twitter post yesterday with his pic receiving the jersey. Pretty cool for a kid from this small town/area to get in this game.

LB

"1) We are stuck in neutral on defense. It's not getting better, but also not a lot worse.
2) Without altering the overall approach, next year will be more of the same, resulting in a winning record, a bowl game, while missing out on an Coastal division title once again.
3) If our current staff can put their ego aside, admit that their approach has failed to produce the expected results, and change it, they might get the job done by 2015.
4) If they don't, it's adios and good bye after the 2014 season."

1. Slightly worse. We should not be defensively worse than the average competition vs. USF, Wake, Va. Tech, Duke, and UVA. And we were in 2013.
2. D'Onofrio's defense is extremely predictable. Blitzing is almost a dirty word.
3. Honestly, D'Onofrio should have been fired after Va. Tech.
4. Golden should stay. His offenses are working (it's coming). Trust me.

But D'Onofrio? No. Here are more reasons (extra meat for the article):

2012
- 32 points to the 111th ranked offense (Maryland). That's -12.2 worse than others.
- 41 points to the 77th ranked offense (Notre Dame). Though they were a BCS team, that's -14.2 worse than others.
- 41 puntos to the 95th ranked offense (Virginia). That's -18.2 worse than others.

2013
- 21 points to the 123rd ranked offense (USF). That's -6.5 points worse than others.
- 21 points to the 117th ranked offense (Wake). That's -2.7 worse than others.
- 42 points to the 97th ranked offense (Va. Tech). That's -18.6 worse than others.
- 26 points to the 111th ranked offense (Virginia). That's -6.2 worse than others.
- 31 points to the 86th ranked offense (Pitt). That's -5 worse than others.

That's not all of them, but the most egregious.

- We gave up 20+ against everyone but Florida, Savannah, and FAU.
- We gave up 30+ to five teams, including three in a row (at least they're all bowl eligible).
- We gave up 40+ three games in a row.

I can't make this up.

Ohio_Cane

Roster for Under Armour Game:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/honors

Look at the #1 DT and the #1 S near the top of the list.

Posted by: 86Cane | December 06, 2013 at 09:23 AM
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Boys from VA dream about going to VA. Plus, London is a great recruiter.

86Cane

Under Armour Game ‏@UnderArmourGame 17h

Congrats to Saint Clairsville's Michael Ferns (@M_Ferns10) - He received his @UnderArmourGame jersey today! pic.twitter.com/rUyrvnfeFr

86Cane

CollegeFootballTalk ‏@CFTalk 15m

Report: Chris Petersen expected to take Washington job #collegefootball http://wp.me/p14QTT-1lre

Ohio_Cane

Under Armour Game ‏@UnderArmourGame 17h

Congrats to Saint Clairsville's Michael Ferns (@M_Ferns10) - He received his @UnderArmourGame jersey today! pic.twitter.com/rUyrvnfeFr

Posted by: 86Cane | December 06, 2013 at 09:35 AM
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I'm still not convinced he'll be a good player in FBS ball, but he's got the size and speed to do it.

He's kind of shy (afraid of contact), which doesn't translate to LB very well. Or H-Back or TE for that matter.

Some coach can probably get him on track, though. His size/speed combo is something U can't teach.

LB

I've got more.

Thirteen times has a UM/D'Onofrio defense faced an offense ranked 85th or worse.

They surrender an average of 25.9 points in these games, -4.3 worse than everyone else.

10 times they surrendered over 20 points.
5 times over 30.

D'Onofrio has got to go.

dj moonbat

Report: Chris Petersen expected to take Washington job #collegefootball http://wp.me/p14QTT-1lre

Posted by: 86Cane | December 06, 2013 at 09:37 AM


Look out, world. Give that guy some real resources, and there's no telling what he can do.

God, I wish Miami had hired that guy.

Ohio_Cane

God, I wish Miami had hired that guy.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 06, 2013 at 09:57 AM
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There's no telling which coach would've stayed and stuck with us through the NCAA mess.

dj moonbat

There's no telling which coach would've stayed and stuck with us through the NCAA mess.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 06, 2013 at 10:00 AM


It's true. But when I see what that cat was able to do with a bunch of slow white guys and a few Samoans, it's tough not to be envious.

86Cane

But when I see what that cat was able to do with a bunch of slow white guys and a few Samoans, it's tough not to be envious.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 06, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Ain't that the truth.

86Cane

D'Onofrio has got to go.

Posted by: LB | December 06, 2013 at 09:55 AM

U may wish for it but it is NOT happening.

Only way to win more games is to get better talent and/or outscore the opponent. With the talent we will have on offense in 2014 it should be doable in MOST games, except when we play FSU.

Ohio_Cane

If we can get some difference makers on the DL, our D will be twice as good as it was. The whole game vs PITT, I'd watch the line instead of the ball.

Every play I would say "NO PRESSURE! TOO MUCH TIME FOR THE QB!"

orange 'n green in the vein

Petersen would have done exactly what Alverage Slogan did at UM, he would have stuck around at the best job he's ever had offered to him but the difference, he would have won and won huge with the very talented roster Shannon had in place to make a serious run at the big prize in '11 and this year. Because Petersen is a fantastic coach and Alverage Slogan is not, you see.

I'm kind of puzzled that Petersen removes his name from Southern Cal's coaching search but then goes all in replacing the guy they hired after he declined? Puzzling move, but he'll have the north division there on lock down pretty soon. UM needs to make a run at his DC now though, saving face for the college roommate after three years of horrible coaching, coordinating and play calling is doing him a favor at the expense of the program, but I guess Alverage Slogan thinks his friend is above the program, as if the employment records the last three years didn't prove that beyond a doubt already.

86Cane

Ohio...I say anytime the other team goes empty backfield run a corner blitz even if it is 10 times a game. Nobody can block a corner blitz.

The other option is to show a blitz from one side with a LB on the edge so the QB shifts the RB to that side for extra protection and then run the CB blitz from the other side and drop the supposed blitzer back into coverage to fool the QB and to cover (INT) the quick slant.

86Cane

The very talented roster Shannon had in place to make a serious run at the big prize in '11 and this year.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | December 06, 2013 at 10:44 AM

U make me giggle like a little school girl.

Puff, puff, pass...please?

86Cane

LB...the stats you posted are really revealing about just how bad the UM defense has been. If we get the talent in through recruiting over the next 2 years then we will be able to judge the defense accurately and entirely. We need big time help at DT, LB and S.

Until then we wish, and we wait...

BEERicane

The state of Florida has 2 teams in BCS bowls this year. How bad would UCF beat us down?

Here is the ONLY thing anyone on here needs to know about the state of the u (lowercase u intentional). The Big 3 in Florida had dwindled to the Big 2. FSU and UCF. Miami and UF no longer belong in the discussion. That is the reality. We have been supplanted by a mid-major school. It's embarrassing, and happened on Golden's watch. I think Golden can get it done, but unfortunately, his DC is a package deal. Next year is the last year for him to turn things around. He couldn't even win the weakest costal division in memory this year. The fact is this season is a failure. If it doesn't change next year, golden and crew have to go. If not, we as fans of te university of Miami have to accept we will never be relevant in football again. We will be the new Duke, Vandy, Northwestern - only lacking the academic prestige.

Go Canes

Some more stats:

#2 Ohio State:

+20 5
+30 2
+40 1

#3 Auburn

+20 3
+30 2
+40 1

#5 Missouri

+20 6
+30 1

orange 'n green in the vein

I count nine (9) draftees, so far, left on the roster for the next staff after Shannon to coach. Add in a few UFA's who are having various levels of success while they draw that pro paycheck and that's at least half a team of NFL caliber players.

Talent excuses don't hold up for why this coaching staff has face planted for three years running now. NCAA whining is a joke too. It all comes back to Alverage Slogan and his merry band of nobodies were a bad hire for UM and if they don't turn it around next year immediately, it's going to be time to find someone who isn't a total bust here real soon. Unless you've decided that 10-2 or worse is acceptable yearly results?

But that would mean you'd be settling for average results from the most fertile NFL player pool in recruiting, which is just inane.

Go Canes

Unless you've decided that 10-2 or worse is acceptable yearly results?

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | December 06, 2013 at 11:03 AM

OGV can you tell me how many undefeated seasons UM has had in the last 40 years?

BEERicane

Can you tell me how many undefeated seasons UF has in its over 100yr football history?

86Cane

We will be the new Duke, Vandy, Northwestern.

Posted by: BEERicane | December 06, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Don't put those schools down like that.

Go Canes

The answer is three and only one in the last 22 years.

You act like a 10-2 season for this team and a potential BCS game is a slap in the face to you.

Why?

It's not like we have been steamrolling teams for the last 20 years and all of a sudden we are tanking.

While we are on the subject, do you know how many undefeated seasons Nick Saban has?

One

Les Miles

Zero

Mark Richt

Zero

Steve Spurrier

Zero

BEERicane

I wish I could say we are the WashU in StLouis, but they actually are great athletically.

86Cane

I count nine (9) draftees, so far, left on the roster for the next staff after Shannon to coach. Add in a few UFA's who are having various levels of success while they draw that pro paycheck and that's at least half a team of NFL caliber pplayers.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | December 06, 2013 at 11:03 AM

U are so warped and twisted, with an occasional delusional moment or two. U usually make at least a decent argument but talk about "face plant", yeah U took a good one right there. LOL

86Cane

Go Canes...U tell 'em!

86Cane

BEER...of the three schools U mentioned that UM sees itself "compared to" Duke and and Vandy had BETTER defensive stats than UM and only NW was worse statistically on D:

Total Defense: Vandy 32, Duke 52, UM 72, NW 82

Scoring Defense: Duke 36, Vandy 51, UM 55, NW 66

jsy

Do we have the worst defensive roster in the acc? Finishing 116 then dead last in the acc is not acceptable no matter what our talent is its not last in acc bad. Changes have to be made.

SinisterCane

Cant' we just leave a horse head on his front porch to scare off NOFENSE.

It's great that we're getting a influx of good talent on defense but the question is once they get here will they get any better? Jelani Hamilton is a perfect example of Elite talent meeting piss poor water boy coaching

BEERicane

86, I'd say what's worse than those stats is that I'm not taken aback or shocked by it in the least. Hell, I'm surprised it's not worse.

BEERicane

We have no D line. None. Until we get some (I'll take one at this point) playmakers on DL, it's no use. Will always be a failure on D. We have no one on this roster and I don't see any upgrades in the near future. Then add to that a complete lack of a defensive backfield, especially at S, it's not a surprise we are so horrid. The difference is, I think we can correct the S position a lot quicker than DL. These next 2 years we will have to win shoot-outs. At least if we are winning,at least it should be exciting (albeit stressful).

SinisterCane

BIG TEN coaching mentality "Penn ST" with BIG TEN Admin "WI", Donna is hell bent on becoming Harvard of the South while turning her back on the football the made UM into tha U. every time I see that commercial with Donna saying" It's all about tha U" I want to throw up, we basically have Donna impersonated the Marlins Owner ruining UM football

jsy

Over the last couple years watching college football the team that reminds me the most of the early 2000s hurricanes from a size/strength/speed standpoint is lsu. Their sc coach is tommy moffitt the same sc coach under butch. I don't think that lsus rise coinciding with his arrival and our slow decline beginning after he left is purely coincidence. I wish al would get that guy back on staff first and foremost.

SinisterCane


Over the last couple years watching college football the team that reminds me the most of the early 2000s hurricanes from a size/strength/speed standpoint is lsu. Their sc coach is tommy moffitt the same sc coach under butch. I don't think that lsus rise coinciding with his arrival and our slow decline beginning after he left is purely coincidence. I wish al would get that guy back on staff first and foremost.

Posted by: jsy | December 06, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Didn't know he left LSU. Where is he coaching know?

BEERicane

Blaming this on Donna is a joke. Without her giant political and powerful balls, we could be in a much bigger mess. She is the singular most influential college president in the country and the university as a whole is in a much better position than it would be without her. University research dollars are way up (which translates to $$$ in the pockets of the university directly). Several improvements has been made in the infrastructure of the medical school and research facilities. She helped spearhead the efforts to raise $850M to upgrade JMH (something the county as a whole desperately needed). Her job as university president is to enhance the position of the university as a whole, not win football games. Sure, argue that wins translate into dollars but those win-related dollars go back into athletics not so much the general university funds. However, general university funds can go into athletics. This is on the coaches and staff of the football program not Donna. Please stop with that nonsense.

jsy

He's still at lsu. I want getting him back to be Al's top priority but it's wishful thinking. He's been turning thise lsu boys into men. Their roster purely from a physical standpoint reminds me alot of how our guys used to be

SOUP

This is on the coaches and staff of the football program not Donna. Please stop with that nonsense.

Posted by: BEERicane | December 06, 2013 at 11:58 AM

TOTALLY AGREE.

SinisterCane


Blaming this on Donna is a joke. Without her giant political and powerful balls, we could be in a much bigger mess. She is the singular most influential college president in the country and the university as a whole is in a much better position than it would be without her. University research dollars are way up (which translates to $$$ in the pockets of the university directly). Several improvements has been made in the infrastructure of the medical school and research facilities. She helped spearhead the efforts to raise $850M to upgrade JMH (something the county as a whole desperately needed). Her job as university president is to enhance the position of the university as a whole, not win football games. Sure, argue that wins translate into dollars but those win-related dollars go back into athletics not so much the general university funds. However, general university funds can go into athletics. This is on the coaches and staff of the football program not Donna. Please stop with that nonsense.

Posted by: BEERicane | December 06, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Thank you for sharing those thoughts, now if you don't agree with me then that is fine but isn't a coincidence when she came to tha U in 2001 I believe is when we started our decline due to her wanting to be Sanford/Harvard of the south raising admission standards thus redirecting all of our elite south FL talent to the SEC. I'm not ignoring the fact that we have a shi!!y coaching staff but who's approval is needed for these hires? Donna tenure as President has seen 2 fired coaching staff with the fan base gearing up for a third, a NCAA investigation with the Admin opening the door for a rouge booster and let not forget her spiritual counsel adviser in Barry Alveres. I don't give a sh!! what she did in the Clinton admin or what's she plan to do in Hillary's future admin, top 25 grad rates. All I care about is UM football

SOUP

All I care about is UM football

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 06, 2013 at 12:20 PM

We can all see that you are a well rounded individual.

Go Canes

I've read some wild stuff on here, some of it really laughable, but blaming Shalala for the state of the football program has to top the list.

And I repeat again, after enduring the worst NCAA scandal since SMU we still went 9-3 and have perhaps the best recruiting class in America on the way right?

Did I dream the wins and we actually went 3-9?

I just don't get it.

VfB_Cane

So, most here seem to agree that without a new DC, things are not going to change.
We all know that (at least at this point) Golden is not going to make that move. Howver, most would like Golden to stick around for at least another year.

Now, given this situation, I tried to come up with a scenario that might work.

Take your mind back to mid-January, when our coaching staff looked like this:
HC: Al Golden
DC and assistant head coach: Mark D'Onofrio
OC: Jedd Fisch
TE coach and associate head coach: Mario Cristobal

A similar structure could be:
HC: Al Golden
DC and associate head coach: N.N.
OC: James Coley
Special teams and assistant head coach: Mark D'Onofrio

In this scenario, Golden could keep D'No around, who'd save face because he'd still be assistant HC.
Plus, we'd avoid the potential turmoil a coaching change might bring in the middle of recruiting season.

raizecane

While we are on the subject, do you know how many undefeated seasons Nick Saban has?

One

Les Miles

Zero

Mark Richt

Zero

Steve Spurrier

Zero

Posted by: Go Canes | December 06, 2013 at 11:14

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And what do all those coaches have in commom? three letters..... SEC. Going undefeated is almost impossible yet they have won the last 6. Please don't compare the SEC with the ACC. It's not even close.

VA Cane

the very talented roster Shannon had in place

The average talent he had and did not know how to use because he was a biased introverted grouch who resented the world and blamed society for his tough life. He played so many favorites and was an ass about a lot of things. God Almighty could not have won with that roster it was not as talented as people want to believe. All those guys from MNW that were supposed to be football Gods......I don't see them burning up the NFL at this time.....don't know where they are. He was not a good head coach and they were not top players....bottom line.

Nobody wants him as a head coach because they saw the way he was as a person; others have said it was for other reasons but I feel it was because of the way he treated people in general...he was a jerk. All you got to do is look at that mug....the Grinch that stole football!!!

Sinistercane

Look Donna is part of the problem , we just lost out on a good DT to Auburn who is smart enough to get into college but does not meet donna's standard for admission. Maybe I'm misinformed but what has she done for UM football because all I see is 2 fired coaching staff for being cheap and a NCAA investigation

BEERicane

Sinister, if all you care about is the football team, then clearly you are not an alum and can have such narrow interests. I stand to share in the university's academic success directly, while I do (perhaps I should say would) enjoy football success, it does nothing for my professional life. Therefore, UMs success as a university is my success. I do not stand to profit from secondary gain with the football team.

SOUP

I just don't get it.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 06, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Most of what you say is correct and accurate. There are some positives to take from the season.

But the bottom line for 90% of UM fans was an ACC title game or BUST for 2013. We busted. And losing to Duke and allowing them to know The U outta the ACC title game really sucked. I mean REALLY!

VfB_Cane

Quich soccer newsflash ...

World Cup 2014 opening round draw: USA, Germany, Portugal and Ghana in Group G.

VfB_Cane

^^^ Quick, not "Quich"

VA Cane

he would have won and won huge


Cmon OBV you must be thinking about your Daddy Urban and your brother Timmy....

RS could have been given a life contract and would have never won huge, The man is not a head coach; he hates people cannot get along with them, he's an introvert with a narcissistic chip on his shoulder who feels he's been dogged and done wrong all his life. He was never going to win big with his attitude. He alienated many of the old guard by how he treated them. I know a former TE from my neck of the woods whom I coached in an all star game when he was young. He played at UM and we talk still today....on Shannon he told me once....Coach he would not like you because you are white. I do not know how true that rings, but my guy is pretty open and honest with me....I could see one might get that feeling....I don't know. For the record that is so wrong a bad way to be. I have a former BIL who is so racist....he hates Pres because he is black....what an uneducated idiot to feel like that. I like Pres because he is a person....might not agree on everything but he is a good man. I also think Shannon is a good man....just not a nice man or good HC.

Sinistercane

BeerCane

I'm no a alum but neither is 1/2 of the fan base. When UM was winning big I don't think there was much talk about academics but I do respect the prestige want your degree to have :)

VA Cane

I will never have a problem with high academic standards....essential to life. My niece graduated UM she is very smart and learned a lot. I have an 18 yr old son; it scares me where our education system is going. You saw the numbers from the govt this week. Some say they are scare tactics for more money to go with the trillions that go into the entire education system in this nation. Well....I deal with a lot of kids all the time....probably more than a lot of people....talked to any lately? Its scary how they are educated. I love academic standards I don't care if a guy cannot get in that's life...and everybody is not entitled to everything just because they breathe.

Sinistercane

Gary Kubiak fired! So where does Andre Johnson play next year?

j.w.

I'am an alum, and I think Shalala is part of the problem. We got into this mess because our athletic dept. was starving for money, our football team was having difficulty recruiting due to tougher standards than most of our opponents, and we went cheap on hiring coaches. I just don't see any evidence that she was oblivious to all of the problems out there and I further submit that her insistence on raising standards for athletes (Cal of all schools doesn't even do this) hurt. I'm glad UM is is an excellent school, and when we were ranked in the top 40 it was pretty darned cool. But I'm wondering when we'll start working creatively to find a way to do both. Here's one idea of how to lower the cost of althetic scholarships: http://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page/magazine/article/?article_id=32301

I know, UM doesn't have that kind of endowment, but if you could cut the cost of tuition, imagine how good our non-revenue (think: Baseball!) sports could be.

BEERicane

Sinister, glad to hear you are an alum as well. The main point was a theoretical one on that the value of the degree is reflected by the impression of the academic prestige of the university, not the football team. I grant you that most people on here that are alums are past the need for intrinsic value of the degree (as I happen to be) but I'd much rather have the graduates of the U (undergrad, medical, etc) enjoy much success. This is an easier task to accomplish if the academic standards are upheld and the football program erodes, rather than the converse. I'd much rather see the university succeed academically and the football be mediocre rather than the academics slip to the level of FIU and dominate football. But that's just me. It's all good, my friend.

canezilla


With the talent we will have on offense in 2014 it should be doable in MOST games, except when we play FSU.

Posted by: 86Cane | December 06, 2013 at 10:36 AM
AND DUKE AND VT

SinisterCane

BeerCane sorry for any confusion but I'm not a UM alum or any college for that matter. I went to the school of hard knocks USN

BEERicane

I love academic standards I don't care if a guy cannot get in that's life...and everybody is not entitled to everything just because they breathe.

Posted by: VA Cane | December 06, 2013 at 12:57 PM

OH MY GOD, finally a sane voice rises up from the crowd!

SinisterCane

At the end of the day coaching gave it away

SinisterCane

We lost to Duke

SOUP

1. Well....I deal with a lot of kids all the time....probably more than a lot of people....talked to any lately? Its scary how they are educated.

2. I love academic standards I don't care if a guy cannot get in that's life...and everybody is not entitled to everything just because they breathe.

Posted by: VA Cane | December 06, 2013 at 12:57 PM

1. I deal with young people all the time for work and I agree, some are great and have it together but most of the time, IT IS SCARY!

2. Agree 100%.

SOUP

AND DUKE AND VT

Posted by: canezilla | December 06, 2013 at 01:03 PM

U had to go there didn't U? I think my head exploded. LOL

SOUP

We lost to Duke

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 06, 2013 at 01:06 PM

Wait, wait, wait...I thought Duke played FOR us?

Ohio_Cane

Quick soccer newsflash ...

World Cup 2014 opening round draw: USA, Germany, Portugal and Ghana in Group G.

Posted by: VfB_Cane | December 06, 2013 at 12:45 PM
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Awful, AWFUL draw... Wow.

SinisterCane

Wait, wait, wait...I thought Duke played FOR us?

Posted by: SOUP | December 06, 2013 at 01:11 PM

You know the one that toasted NOFENSE for 500 yds. lol

VfB_Cane

Ohio: Especially considering that during World Cups, I usually walk around in a German jersey (hell, half the country does), but followed the US women's team during the WC 2011 all the way to the final. So, I'll have to pull for a draw and hope both teams advance to the knock-out stages.

BEERicane

Duke will beat FSU. That's the only way I'll feel better about losing to them. Not gonna happen, so I'll never feel any better about it.

herbieibis

The Herb is glad to see after I have bitched on hear for three years everyone is jumping on the bandwagon, bitching about our no-face De-line. Okay, Deno has proven he can't coach mediocre to below average talent or even to get them to play better than they are. A good coordinator, could take nothing and make something of it. Goldie has to take some of this blame because he can't recruit a defensive tackle for his buddy. He left him on an Island by himself, with those last 2 years wiff jobs at that position. I mean, no disrespect to the young men, but could any of us actually stop a cold with, who golden has brought in at the De-tackle position since he has been here? King, Ivery, Moore, all at 6'1. Briscoe, Smith. Ivery & Briscoe have adiosed it. Hamilton, Grimball, & Pierre, were all brought in as DE's. Grimball, is gone and Hamilton is on the scout team. iIn three years, that's who he has brought in, at DT, was those 5 guys. Now granted Deno suks but so does our recruiting at that position. aside from Perryman, we have no star power at LB, at least not yet. No wonder we get gutted by retread schools because our talent at those 2 positions is on par, with the Dukes, Wakes and Virginia's. That's right, they match us talent wise at those positions.

By the way, the stat above about us having 18 sacks last year is wrong, we only had 13.

Deno has proven that he can't work with inferior talent, I wonder what he could do if he actually had some? Bits and pieces does not make a defense. In order for us to improve defensively, as I have told you guys forever is get the DT position stabilized, with an influx of some talent, give me 2 LB's that are willing to blow you up and are SMART. Our secondary just has to toughen up a little, especially Howard and we will be solid. Sounds like a lot but we really only are 4 players short and possibly a coach to make that side of the ball solid. The Herb knows this, trust me!

WWIN

For the one million, fifty thousand, and twenty fifth time...

It's Golden's head you want not D'no's!

How many times does he have to say that he signs off on EVERYTHING in the building for y'all to believe him???

If it was really D'no's defense, don't you think Golden would have gotten rid of him by now???

Go back and look at Golden's stats as a DC and tell me what you find???

Anyways, has Golden ever fired a assistant coach before???

Go Canes

This statement, which is very well said, can be substituted for the Duke loss:

2. I love academic standards I don't care if a guy cannot get in that's life...and everybody is not entitled to everything just because they breathe.

You guys have got to get over that game. It is possible for non traditional powers to bring in a good coach and after a few years put together a talented and experienced team. We don't deserve to win just because we are UM and they are Duke.

Did you all feel that way when our basketball team did the reverse last season?

No.

They put together a good team this year, a 10 win team, and beat a team that's still trying to rebuild after numerous setbacks.

You all act like they were 1-10.

orange 'n green in the vein

It's also more possible that a program that put together an unprecedented run of championship success and contention located in the per capita leader of NFL future players to do the same or even better.

As long as they don't hire from Temple that is.

Now back to ignoring the pom pom waiving disguised as excuse making trolling for this coaching staff. Couldn't resist for some reason, must be the lack of puff puff before passing today?

Go Canes

Yes it is possible, it's actually happening right now as our staff sits in living rooms across South Florida.

You're just too busy ripping the guy who's doing it to see that.

orange 'n green in the vein

Says the guy who predicted a two touchdown victory over North Carolina is his 'debut' here due to the extra week of preparation for the coaches to use . . .

Ripping = "justifiable by performance critique," but then again, I type unencumbered by orange and green pom poms so maybe you tried to reach those keys and got the other word typed instead?

Nah. Every post you make is an excuse for the poor performance by the coaches, it was obviously intentional.

BEERicane

Go Canes = D?No!

I kid....

SinisterCane

Go Canes = D?No!

I kid....

Posted by: BEERicane | December 06, 2013 at 02:27 PM

Or his agent

Go Canes

I did predict that yes. And it didn't happen why?

Our defense that held them to six second half points and zero in the fourth quarter or our offense that couldnt get out of it's own way until late?

I'm no one's agent, I'm just enjoying the process of rebuilding our team up to where it needs to be.

You all enjoy, well frowm what I've seen here you guys pretty much don't enjoy anything, win or lose.

dj moonbat

You guys have got to get over that game. It is possible for non traditional powers to bring in a good coach and after a few years put together a talented and experienced team. We don't deserve to win just because we are UM and they are Duke.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 06, 2013 at 01:42 PM


Who cares about "deserve"? In the last 30 years, Miami won 5 national championships, lost the championship game three times, and was in the mix most seasons except during the mid-90s probation. Duke, not so much.

Given those facts, it is not unreasonable for MIami fans to EXPECT to beat Duke. It is not unreasonable for Miami fans to demand that the coaches view that loss as a wake-up call and start doing something differently.

For G-d's sake: when players were tweeting about their embarrassment, Golden should have said, "you know, I'm embarrassed too. This is a *(&%ing disgrace." Instead, he made sure to tell the press that the players misspoke.

Ohio_Cane

Pete Ariz: 11:40 AM - Despite rumors that Ryheem Lockley would be here this weekend for a visit, that is not the case. I was told that the Miami coaches are still expecting him in this class and he will start out as a TE. If he does not make it on a visit next weekend, he might not be an EE.

Ohio_Cane

Recruits that are visiting this weekend:

(There may be more I don't know of)

Johnnie Dixon
Joseph Yearby
Dalvin Cook
KC McDermott
Trevor Darling
Corey Johnson
Nick Linder

UpNorthCane27

Ohio and VFB_Cane i know USA's group is tough but dont forget USA HAS beaten both teams before, Portugal in the world cup in korea and Germany this past Year. I see USA pulling a shocker and eliminating Portugal and advancing with Germany.

On the other hand im so happy about my Colombia's draw!!!

Cnt wait till June for the World Cup this draw was a tease!!!

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