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December 18, 2013

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coldcane

one time!!!

Ohio_Cane

Deon Bush

Ohio_Cane

I've decided to take some time out of my day to convince U that Dalvin Cook is coming to UM. Why? Partly because I'm bored. Partly because I wanted to put my thoughts into words. I'm not typing this to try and "be right". It's just my prediction, and maybe gives U and idea of how I try and decipher what 17-18 year old kids are thinking each year during this time.


Full disclosure: I have no sources on this kid. I have never met, spoken to, or even seen him in person. I am only going by research on him. What he's said, how he's carried himself, body language, etc.

Here we go:

~ Dalvin said recently after the State Championship that he's "shutting recruiting down". He's done. He knows where he's going.

Shortly after stating this, he told Manny Navarro what helped make his mind up: "Whoever I feel like it's a family. I want to feel like I'm at Miami Central again."

This is very important. Why? Because of a few reasons, by importance (imo):

1. His blood brother, Deandre Burnett, is already at UM on the basketball team. ~ What could feel more like family than a blood brother?

2. His "brother", best friend and teammate at Miami Central, Joe Yearby is committed to UM and will be an EE with Dalvin. ~ This also plays into the family AND Miami Central part of that quote.

3. Another one of his teammates at Miami Central is committed to UM. Trevor Darling. One of the big bodies on the OL he's run behind for his entire HS career. ~ This would also aid in him "feeling like he's at Central again" running behind Darling at UM.

4. We all know at UM, it IS a family, and every recruit that visits says it. NFL players always talk about their "brothers" from UM and are probably the only alumnus that are constantly on campus, year-round. Fans say "CanesFam" all the time, even though it's people who may have never met. It doesn't get more FAMILY than at UM.

~ Another reason he picks UM? Dalvin said the coaches "kept it real with me". Now, U can say whatever U want about Al Golden and staff about their philosophies and schemes, but what U CAN'T say is that they're not REAL with the players, recruits, parents, etc.

One thing past recruits and parents have said, after being recruited by Golden and staff throughout the NCAA mess to now, is that they were "HONEST", "DIDN'T LIE OR BS ABOUT IT", and "KEPT IT REAL". This quote SCREAMS Al Golden and his staff.

~ One last reason: His parents are BOTH huge UM fans. Have been for years.

There are plenty of reasons he would choose FSU. I could list at least 10. But if his comments about Family, brotherhood, and coaching honesty are true, he'll be in Coral Gables in January.

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Admittedly, and something highlighted by some posters on here, I was wrong on a lot of kids last year. Partly because of bad info, but there was some really good sources I have that had solid info and there were drastic, unpredictable changes.

Example(s):

- Alex Collins being a silent that changed his mind at the last second and didn't even tell his parents. I think we all remember his mother running with the NLI and disappearing on NSD

- Golden and staff "pulling" Denver Kirkland's scholly, only to give it back shortly after. He would've committed to UM had this not happened.

- Matthew Thomas WAS going to choose UM until the mess with Kirkland, which made him not trust this staff, even though it was Kirkland and the school's miscommunication with Golden that caused it.

Now, I'm not making excuses. I've manned up to missing on these picks. A few were homer picks that I just missed on in addition to these few.

I may miss on this one as well, but it's not one of my yearly "homer" picks. I believe he's coming to UM.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 18, 2013 at 01:42 PM
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Last time I'm posting this. Anyone else see what I see? Or am I crazy?

86Cane

As I was driving down the Lane I saw a Cook waiting for the bus.

Terrance Sullivan

Damn good article Soup.

86Cane

TSully...I just wish that everyone else would read it?

86Cane

READ THE ARTICLE AND COMMENT ON IT!

Or die...IJS

coldcane

Nice article Soup...and I do live the paradox...I have accepted where we are and because of that acceptance I don't become physically ill when we lose anymore, I realize that this is not our hayday but I know those days will return...I can't wait until the days are here again where I get physically ill with a U loss....aaaaaaah those were the days!

Terrance Sullivan

Yes Sir ColdCane.

86Cane

Ohio...Talk about the Paradox!

CaneRock

OK, let me try this Stockdale Paradox thingee...CaneRock clicks his heel 3xs, aaaaaaand...aaaaaaand...PHUCK! D'Onofrio is still here.

SOUP, that $hit don't work.

LMAO! I keed, I keeeeeed!

86Cane

Rock...it is not about the D, or the coaches, it is about the Paradox?

Ohio_Cane

86, we need more fans to live by this. We'd have a LOT less bitching.

Terrance Sullivan

I think as it relates to the Paradox the offense is working would like more ground and pound or as I like to call it punch U in the forehead football, the kicking game works well, but obviously the defense needs to be addressed big time either with getting a new coordinator or getting better players and it might be both. I appreciate the young men and their efforts because a lot of those guys could have bailed or never came to Miami in the first place but in general thats our biggest weakness and the bowl game next weekend is huge statement game and how phases play especially on the defensive side.

Terrance Sullivan

The one thing I love about Golden and the players they could have folded the tent and we could of had an Auburn meltdown like 2012 or a Florida meltdown 2013 with all the unknown scenarios and all the negativity that surrounded the program over the last few years. So we will just see how it all plays out but I thought the Golden hire was a good one from the start so I am just letting it unfold in front of our eyes.

CaneRock

SOUP, the SP for me, is this in a nutshell...When I have to drive our family on one of those loooooooong ass road trips...I don't look at the GPS to see how far we have to go...I don't look on the side of the inter-state to see how far the next town/city is...the only thing I wanna see, is the welcome sign for our destination...makes for a shorter trip in my mind.

SOUP

ROCK...I love the analogy!

Ohio and Sully...we gotta get there som way and some how. Lets start NOW!

Terrance Sullivan

Yes Sir Soup. See U next Friday Bruh!

CaneRock

WELCOME TO THE U!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbJeULG976E

Ohio_Cane

CR, are U hoping for a transfer or what?

WWIN

Last time I'm posting this. Anyone else see what I see? Or am I crazy?

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 18, 2013 at 11:08 PM

You DEFINITELY CRAZY!!! Lol

WWIN

@joelklatt: Interesting read...former Sark assistant at UW being investigated by #USC and #UWhttp://t.co/UFCuTXB4S8

Posted by: Go Canes | December 18, 2013 at 10:02 PM

If only we knew who tipped them off??? Lol

Old Skool

Damn we are hitting new depths of psychological insight for a sports blog. The ugly truth is that while Golden embraces the Stockdale paradox, our defense is still subject to the Stockholm syndrome - hostage to a coach who believes softness is strength.

Anthropologists have recently uncovered the source of this soft line of thinking by analyzing the DNA of bone fragments found in a cave in Siberia. The previously unknown species of hominid (neither Neanderthal nor Homo Sapien) called the Dinosovans apparently left no legacy and failed to contribute to the modern day human genome because they failed to acquit themselves in battle. Apparently, their enemies were able to easily run through their defensive lines.
The species was thought to be extinct, however, a modern day anomaly has been found.

Stanadrd Shriver

al has a five year plan to get the house in order then after that, greatness.

The delusions of Cane fandom run deep; especially to those who think this school, being somehow surrounded by "by South Florida talent", makes it immune from neglect, complacency and incompetence.

The ills of the previous decade ran deep and rotted the once Cadillac program to its core. Al had a full speed alhead intensity when he got here, but all that came to a screetching halt when the Yahoo story broke. His body language said it all....deflated, disappointed, angry.

From that point on I think Al Golden dug in, relaxed his goal timeline and after he decided to hang around, went into a five year turn aound plan with greatness to be achieved after the initial 5 yr rebuild that was clearly coming. Al sounds ivery relaxed these days.

CaneRock

CR, are U hoping for a transfer or what?

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 19, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Per somebody in the know, He's already here.

CaneRock

Posted by: Stanadrd Shriver | December 19, 2013 at 02:53 AM

I can dig all that.

roachcane77

NICE ONE Old Skool!

Didn't know you were an anthropologist!

LOL

UMike

That makes 2 JUCO and 4 HS Senior DT's.

Think Golden was gonna let last year happen all over again? I think not.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 18, 2013 at 04:30 PM

I think we only have 3 HS Senior DT's

UMike

From CIS & Rivals..

Trevor Darling on rivals

On state championship
-"It's just awesome," "A lot of people can say they helped do it - it was a team effort."
-"I think I did pretty well. I made some big strides from last year."
-"There's not a specific area - I just need to improve everything overall,"
-on being a EE "It's a big thing to come in and get college ready," "I'll be ready to play on the next level (by the summer). I'm very excited to get there."
-In hopes to room with KC "KC is a great guy and I think we'd get along great,"
Now the moment you been waiting for the cook saga
-"I don't know what he's going to do, but there's a chance," "I kind of stay out of it, let him and his family decide on that."
-"That would be a great thing because Dalvin is an awesome player," Darling "Having him on our team would be a great thing."
-on coach Kehoe "I think he's a great coach that is going to push me hard, will get the most out of me," Darling said. "I'm looking forward to that."

UMike

From a poster at CIS...


L.A. TIMES article on Kaaya

Can one player make a difference? The answer is a resounding yes at West Hills Chaminade, where the arrival of quarterback Brad Kaaya in January of 2012 helped elevate a football program to where it is today: playing for a Division II bowl championship on Saturday at StubHub Center in Carson.

Kaaya went to Encino Crespi prepared to lead the Celts to prominence. Then Crespi took in a transfer quarterback from Oaks Christian, and Kaaya decided to look elsewhere after his sophomore season. He has developed into perhaps the No. 1 senior quarterback in Southern California. This season, he has 3,577 yards passing and 25 touchdowns.

But it's his leadership and decision making in games that don't receive as much attention as his touchdown passes. He's cool and tough under pressure. And he can't wait to face Enterprise for a bowl championship.

"It's crazy," he said. "Growing up, I was watching Westlake, Long Beach Poly, Mater Dei. It was always a dream of mind to play in a state championship. I went to Crespi my freshman year saying I want to win a state title in 2013. I'm getting pretty close."


http://www.latimes.com/sports/varsit...#ixzz2nqWTyggP

UMike

From CIS & Rivals...


McCray the "Mid commit"

-on visit "It was a last-minute thing," "It was good, I really liked it."
-best part? "Just interacting with some of the players on the team," "I think they're really great guys."
-will also visit LSU in January. Asked if he's a soft or solid Cane commitment, his response was that he's a "mid" commit
-What does that mean? "It's between solid and soft,"
-friends with Powell, Thomas and Bethel, who all took the visit with him. "I'm really cool with them," McCray said, adding that Powell has now firmed up his UM commitment.
-"I talked to him yesterday - he'll be at Miami,"
- impact can this defensive recruiting class have? "With the team, the class that's coming in, I think that everyone can make an impact," "There are some really talented players and I know they are all ready to play. I believe we can make an impact right away."
-"I got right back to work, working out," "You can't take any time off."
-On coach Paul Williams. "We talk about anything, football, life," "I think he's a real great guy.
-"I have a good connection with all the Miami coaches."
-whats the future of the program? "I see the Hurricanes making a run," "I feel they had a great season. I feel they could have gone all the way, just had a few bumps. When we get it all settled down, as we grow Miami will be one of the top teams."

http://miami.rivals.com/default.asp

canezilla


BUY ALL THE HIGH GROUND CUZ WE SINKING CUZ!

Posted by: 86Cane | December 18, 2013 at 09:09 PM
HAHAHAH

CaneRock

Ohio_Cane, I don't think you're crazy at all.

And here's another FYI...did you know that Cook, and JoJo Robinson, shared the same back-field as youth football players. I mean LITERALLY! shared the same backfield, they were a split-back team. And He also played in the split-back with Yearby at MC.

So this whole notion that He can't split the carries is BOGUS!, He's been doing it since He first put on pads!

And oh yeah, His Coach is UM alum... remember, we had a pretty good relationship with Smith when He was at MNW.

4-Real

CaneRock, what I gathered from the paradox thingee is that people like me, YOU, Ogv, Willie Will, Cocane & Sinister will eventually die of a broken heart whereas everyone else is prepared to endure more years of torture! Lol. Just jokin Soup. Please don't NEURALIZE me sir!! ( Men In Black 2 )

texican cane

I think the staff is all in on the first part but what have they shown as far as confronting the brutal facts of their reality? You cant spell brutal without No'd.

CaneSawMassacre

Paradox is by definition implies a contradiction of sorts.

In context, his indications that he had iternal hope that he would see his wife again, but never necessarily believed he would make it out of the camp is a contradiction in itself.

I hate things, being boiled down like this. Inherently most people would agree being an optimist is more favorable in life then being a pessimist. Yet, most people would also agree that being realist and taking self inventory is an important step in self evaluation.

Yet, how does one optimistically self evaluate one's self and still be completely honest? Or is it cyclical? I self evaluate, break myself down, then become optimistic that I know how to resolve the issue? Continually repeating this cycle over and over.....

FYI SOUP interesting article but you should probably reference about half of the article.. I'm not sure all of those lines are from the book.

CaneRock

CaneRock, what I gathered from the paradox thingee is that people like me, YOU, Ogv, Willie Will, Cocane & Sinister will eventually die of a broken heart whereas everyone else is prepared to endure more years of torture! Lol. Just jokin Soup. Please don't NEURALIZE me sir!! ( Men In Black 2 )

Posted by: 4-Real | December 19, 2013 at 07:27 AM

4-Real, I think they're one in the same. A lot of the optimistic people, were the ones saying that AG was on a 3 year plan...Maybe they're the Christmas,Easter,Thanksgiving, and Christmas again people?

And RCCF must have 10 lives, because that guy thinks we're going undefeated EVERY! year! LMAO!

Ohio_Cane


CR, are U hoping for a transfer or what?

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 19, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Per somebody in the know, He's already here.

Posted by: CaneRock | December 19, 2013 at 05:23 AM
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Oh yeah? Hadn't heard that. Fairmont St isn't too far from me. Wife did her undergrad there

CaneRock

Yet, how does one optimistically self evaluate one's self and still be completely honest? Or is it cyclical? I self evaluate, break myself down, then become optimistic that I know how to resolve the issue? Continually repeating this cycle over and over.....

Posted by: CaneSawMassacre | December 19, 2013 at 08:26 AM

"Once we accept our limits, we go beyond them." Albert Einstein


CaneSawMassacre

CR - another excellent contradiction.

Ohio - you have the info on what Canesport is saying about Mr. Ermon Lane?

Ohio_Cane

Poster on CIS:

12/19 update

while Lane's not doing much public speaking, his coach, Larry Coffey, says it's hard to say what might happen with his star player's recruitment entering the final month-plus of recruiting

This is his coach speaking NOT Lane
-"Anything can happen," "I'm going to be as surprised as anybody probably on signing day."
reason why Lane's recruitment is somewhat unpredictable?
- has met with coaches from several schools, including Alabama coaches in mid-December that he set up on his own - typically high school coaches/administrators arrange the in-school visits.UM also visited with Lane at school, going through the coach to set that one up
-"Coach Barrow and coach Coley came -Ermon and coach Barrow are cousins, so they had a nice visit," "But I'm not sure how receptive he was to it."
-Set up visits to Florida and is in the process of setting up a Florida State
-"He's been close-lipped about things," "I don't try to push him, try to provide my kids with parameters and let them and their families make the decision."

CaneSawMassacre

Thanks Ohio...

Interesting, that Barrow is a relative, but we don't have more pull with the kid.

CaneRock

Oh yeah? Hadn't heard that. Fairmont St isn't too far from me. Wife did her undergrad there

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 19, 2013 at 08:37 AM


O_C, yeah...this person said something about His HS coach didn't really try to get the His players into College, unless there was something in it for Him. Which begs these questions...

Do some/most of these HS coaches, only shop their kids when the Colleges show interest?

How many kids like this fall through the cracks because of that?

I remember a coach telling me, that even the small schools have prototypes, and they won't deviate AN INCH! from those prototypes. Says He has to practically BEG! these coaches to take a look at a kid who He thinks has potential.

Ohio_Cane

CR, honestly none of that would surprise me.

LB

Dear Lord, are you all still discussing Ermon Lane?

Ohio_Cane

Dear Lord, are you all still discussing Ermon Lane?

Posted by: LB | December 19, 2013 at 09:13 AM
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Considering it looks like he's a package deal with Dalvin Cook, yes. We are.

LB

Who is Dalvin Cook?

Ohio_Cane

Who is Dalvin Cook?

Posted by: LB | December 19, 2013 at 09:16 AM
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One of our next star RB's after Duke leaves?

LB

I still don't get it. Recruiting.

It really doesn't matter until they sign, because they could end up anywhere. Even then, that's no guarantee they'll show up on your team.

The only reason I know of Berrios is because the WVU fans swore to me that he was committing, then they showed me some highlights and him running like a maniac at that place in Oregon.

"Shows me love," "dream school," "package deal," "committed but still open," etc. Too many Keefs, not enough Canes. At least Keef entertained us with his tomfoolery (but he was a defensive tackle, if I recall). Yet it seems counterproductive to follow high schoolers who have yet to sign, practice, or play a down in Cane uniforms.

Understandably, it's the lifeblood of the program and helps forecast. But the offense isn't the issue. UM will continue to have great skill players while Golden is here.

Since we've addressed QB with Olsen, it's defensive line and linebacker.

But getting nuts over a running back or wide receiver doesn't make sense. Am I wrong?

There's a bowl game which could propel this team to 10 wins for the first time since the 2003 season. Given that, I cannot wrap my head around the obsession over unquantifiable possibilities of high school players.

I am not being cold or mean. You all know my verbage enough to know that I've got a descent sense of humor and dislike if any of you are in distress or pain. But I do not understand. At all.

Ohio_Cane

Poster on CIS:


The BEAST KC McDermott

Rivals update 12/19

-KC will be in Orlando along with the family, he won't attend the game "The night of the game is the night I show up at the hotel for the Under Armour game," "I'm not allowed to go to the bowl game - once I arrive at the hotel I'm under the observation and insurance of the Under Armour people.
-"I have to be there by 1 or 2 in the afternoon on that day, and we have a whole presentation with the coaches speaking to us, our first team meetings that night to get to know each other."
-Nick Linder is in the same predicament - he's also attending the Under Armour game with his big brother playing in the bowl game (checked he is on the roster)
- his understanding is that they'll be able to watch the game on TV
-"The way they have it set up is absolutely phenomenal," "They're putting us up in a spectacular hotel for a week. We're practicing at the Wide World of Sports, the second night we're there they're taking us to an Orlando Magic basketball game and we'll be recognized during that game. The night after that they're taking us to Hollywood Studios, are shutting down the entire studios just for the Under Armour game for five or six hours
-"And they have a player's lounge in the hotel, and when Shane was there they had PlayStations and Xbox's hooked up, eight or nine of them, plasma TV's everywhere showing every bowl game going on."

* Is Miami-Louisville a big deal for recruiting?
-"Bowl games in general help out tremendously in recruiting," "It shows the team was successful on the year. The more prestige of the bowl the better it is. Definitely for Miami being in its first bowl game in a few years tremendously helps out recruiting. Definitely if we win it'll be even better because it shows Miami is still better than Louisville since Louisville has been recruiting heavily in South Florida
"Showing we can beat Louisville and beat them with kids that stayed home shows something."

*UM 2014 class
-"It's phenomenal. It definitely helps not only for the future of the team, but it helps for the future and also the future of recruiting. It shows the younger kids, a lot of these kids that live here, stay at home, make it a hometown thing, so why go anywhere else?"

*thoughts on Johnnie Dixon decision?
-"I told him `I still have three weeks to change your mind,'" "I know he wants to go to Miami, and I'm still working on it. If we beat Louisville badly I think that will help him change his mind. I keep preaching to Johnnie that your mom has to pay for a plane ticket to go see you
"And I told him three players went from Dwyer to Florida when Urban Meyer was there, and within the first two years two of them transferred out." (Very smart kid, probably why he told Urb to F off)

*He has also joined the "Get dalvin to UM" Party
-"I think Cook definitely will change his mind - he's got his brotherhood at Miami Central going to Miami," "I think there's no way he leaves."

* Shane McDermott also played in the Under Armour game, and KC said his understanding is it's the first time brothers have played in the game

http://miami.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1589025

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/fo...ruiting/honors

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U HAVE to love KC. What a kid. Smart too.

Oh, and he hates Urban Meyer as much as I do, it seems.

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