Dumb And Dumber

Over the last 5 to 10 years the college football recruiting process of high school athletes has gone beyond the ridiculous, moved right passed the absurd and has graduated into the category of just plain dumb.

The fact that mature, intelligent, stable and otherwise grown men would follow these high school kids' every move, tolerate the constant "flips" of their commitments from one University to another and endure the now infamous "hat game" on National Signing Day is, well for a better word, dumber.

But it is what it is and we all know that the coverage of the recruiting process every Winter has expanded exponentially (Note to recruits: That means "like a whole lot") in recent years to where it has become as important, no make that more important, to many college football fans as the actually football games played on the field each Fall.

Welcome to the world of dumb and dumber.

So, to keep up with the crowd and in our continuing effort to remain relevant on today's college football scene, here at Canespace we too will provide you all of the exciting "wall-to-wall coverage" of National Signing Day once again this year on the first Wednesday in February.

Our recruiting gurus here at Canespace, OhioCane and UMike, will bring you up to the minute updates so you can instantly know which highly ranked recruits Miami head Coach Al Golden "landed" (whoo-hoo, they are great!) and which ones "got away" (Boo, they suck anyway!).

The reasons and rationalization for the 2014 recruiting haul will shortly follow. Then there will most certainly be much angst, joy, anger and gnashing of the teeth that will be punctuated by some really dumb things being said by usually reasonable, generally intelligent people on the Internet about how "dumb some of these kids are" or how "the recruiting process keeps getting dumber".

We think that you will be very encouraged to know that there are only nine days to go until dumb meets dumber and NSD 2014 takes place (Read: Thank God it is finally over).

Then we will wait a year to do it all over again with great predictability.

In between there will be some football games that are played.

But hey, who really cares about that anyway?

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Comments

[86Cane]

"These aren’t huge numbers. On average, a team got 13 possessions in a given game; the total difference between an average start of 26.0 and an average start of 34.0 is just 104 yards (13 possessions times 8.0 yards). One turnover could mean a difference of about 40 yards. One field-flipping punt that bounces past the punt returner and rolls a while could mean 25 yards. One huge stop on a kick return could mean 15 yards. A sack on third-and-long, instead of a short completion, could mean 15 yards. A third-down conversion that simply extends a drive from three-and-out to six-and-out could mean 10 yards. And just like that, you’re at 105 yards, and you’ve gone from likely loss to likely win."

[UMike]

CSM, I understand and agree with that. And I dont mean we should offer ever 2 or 3 Star guy just because, but we should be first in on the players considered elite. Then it cant be used against us lol

[86Cane]

"But over time, I've come to realize that the sport comes down to five basic things, four of which you can mostly control. You make more big plays than your opponent, you stay on schedule, you tilt the field, you finish drives, and you fall on the ball. Explosiveness, efficiency, field position, finishing drives, and turnovers are the five factors to winning football games."

[30CINCO]

86 - a lot of good info there.

After losing Duke and Dorsett, 2 of the top playmakers, we started losing, not a coincidence according to the article. Especially what they consider the most important factor: big plays

"Big plays are probably the single most important factor to winning football games. The team more adept at creating numbers advantages and getting a guy into the open field, or the team that can simply outman its opponent and win one-on-one battles will almost certainly generate more big plays and win more games. And as pointed out in my Four Truths column, big plays also allow you to avoid killing yourself."

[UMike]

Another thing started happening when we started losing... the D started giving up 40 or more points to mediocre teams lol.. I think having Duke back especially would of helped, but I dont think we win any of those 3 we lost in the reg season. Those were on the D mostly and the O to a degree.

[LB]

I feel a little better about a #2 tailback this year than last. Los Pollos Hermanos will be a sophomore, Dallas will have enough experience, and Yearby should be an upgrade from Clements.

But we gave up 31 to Pittsburgh.

[UpNorthCane27]

Efficiency is the biggest thing there for me... Duke or no Duke our QB was not efficient at all. We have athletes that can outmatch a teams 3rd and 4th CB's but Morris managed to just zero in on his 1st read only.

[CaneSawMassacre]

umike- always the skeptic.

We win the VT game alone without those three terrible special team plays..

I think you underestimate how important a decent O is to a good D.

We were awful on 3rd downs all year. And I'm pretty sure we have one of the worst average times per scoring drive in all of the NCAA.

If you don't understand D.. You're simple..

And I say that full well, speaking with Soup and knowing that you can't play 10 yards off a receiver and put no pressure on the QB..

But people forget, we had Teddy bottled up and doing nothing for most of the first half.. Yet our offense suffocated the defense.

[CaneSawMassacre]

If you give Ryan Leaf 15 tries to dissect your offense even he isn't stupid enough to fail, all hopped up on pain killers at 45...

[Go Canes]

Don't ever say offensive ineptness made the defense look worse than it really was on here.

Ever.

And I mean ever.

You'll get "We lost to Duke!!!" rained all over you!

[CaneSawMassacre]

FYI I dare anybody to go back and read boards about Jimbo ( the dumbo) Fisher. From FSU fans a few years ago..

You think we are scathing...?

And this guy now has a national championship

[86Cane]

As usual it is not one thing or the other it is my favorite answer: ALL OF THE ABOVE!

1. We lose Duke and Dorsett and our explosive, big plays.
2. Our QB was NOT efficient and losing Duke hurt our running game efficiency on 1st and 2nd down. We could not stay on the field on offense which killed the defense.
3. Our defense simply could not get of the field on third down. Forget the pick 6 or a sack for 15 just get the defense OFF OF THE DAMN FIELD I yelled as loud as I could many, many times last year!

[CaneSawMassacre]

86.. it turns out the best defense is a good offense..

Who woulda thunk?

[86Cane]

CSM...U are 100% correct. FSU fans I know VERY well wanted Fisher gone from FSU before this past season. And I mean GONE!

[Go Canes]

"These aren’t huge numbers. On average, a team got 13 possessions in a given game

I would LOVE to see how many posessions teams like Virginia, Duke and Virginia Tech got against us.

And you are 100% Canesaw. Despite the offense giving Bridgewater nothing but great field posession we held them to field goals for most of the fist half.

We aren't nearly deep enough or talented enough to be on the field all game against anyone.

[UMike]

I agree the O didnt do the D no favors.. I get that. But we were blown out, and to mediocre offensive teams (besides FSU). In the VT game, the SP turnovers hurt, but those happened early. Through the whole game we could not stop the underneath routes on 3rd downs. Our D couldnt get off the field. Against Duke, we started explosive and had the lead, until our D showed up.

I 100% agree having Duke and PD4 would have helped, and of the O could have stayed on the field more it would have helped, I just dont know if it would of gave us another win since the score was so lopsided.

[86Cane]

CSM...U are right again. And that is not an attempt to defend the D, they earned their criticism, but at the same time the offense often did NOTHING to help the D. Both depend on each other and when one side is weaker the other side of the ball has to operate to protect them.

We did not do that and the question now is: Was that on QB Morris or was that on OC Coley? This year will tell now won't it?

[86Cane]

We aren't nearly deep enough or talented enough to be on the field all game against anyone.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 27, 2014 at 12:01 PM

There IT is right there.

[86Cane]

I just dont know if it would of gave us another win since the score was so lopsided.

Posted by: UMike | January 27, 2014 at 12:01 PM

This is true, we will NEVER know.

[herbieibis]

How many times did our defense force a three and out last year? I have no clue but I know it wasn't many. If we take care of our depth issues, then losing a player here and there doesn't hurt as much. I can't see Duke being the same player he was for a while. Look at Lewis, he wasn't the same player, this year. Dukes injury was nasty and maybe Coley thinks twice trying to run an 185 Lb back in between the tackles on a third and 2 or 4Th down, whatever it was, especially when you have a roadgrader at FB.

[UMike]

Al Golden in the 561 visiting Wellington High

[Go Canes]

VT had scoring drives of 51, 54 and 17 yds. They had an 80 yd fumble return for a TD.

Eight of our 11 drives were six plays or less, including 6 that were three and outs.

[Go Canes]

Last five posessions against Duke resulted in four drives of 5 or less plays, three straight punts then two turnovers on downs.

[Ohio_Cane]

New question:

If we lose TV, but flip Gaillard and JC Jackson and pick up Tavon Ross, is this class an "A"?

[Go Canes]

Against Louisville we had 11 posessions of which eight were 5 or less plays, six resulted in punts, two ended up with turnovers on downs.

[Go Canes]

Before I get called an apologist, I know the defense was not good all year.

But the offense did leave them hanging out to dry in every big game.

[Canesteeler]

Close strong AG! Bringing Ice Harris back to the U makes sense.

[Meast]

This may come of as whining or snobby on my part, but does anybody have that one guy that tries too hard to show you they know recruiting about the Canes? It's really annoying. I've been at my job for 3.5 years and about 2 months ago, my boss "suddenly" loves everything about recruiting. He is the biggest Dolphins fan and likes the Canes but doesn't following recruiting for anything. It's just recently he tries to converse about me because he just found out about Canes Insight and uses the 5 clicks before you exceed the limit. Idk, I guess its just annoying how somebody doesn't know much but tries to tell you everything about recruiting as if they've been doing it for years.

[UMike]

Ohio.. I still think it is an "A" class without any of the guys you mentioned. At the Very least a "B+". Grabbing either TV, Jackson or Harris will be an "A++". We hit South Florida hard, we got DL help and maybe the best OL class in the nation. If it isnt an "A", it is only because we didnt bring in another RB which I think we need.

Go Canes.. all of those facts are nice, but do you have the number of times we couldnt stop the SAME play against VT, especially yon 3rd down? lol

[Keoki]

Against Louisville we had 11 posessions of which eight were 5 or less plays, six resulted in punts, two ended up with turnovers on downs.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 27, 2014 at 12:15 PM

HELLS YEAH OHIO!

F' the Turds & $EC!

[UMike]

Miami offered 2016 ATH Ahmon Richards from Wellington... I guess that is why Golden was visiting this morning lol

[UMike]

^^^ I would say that is early enough haha

[UMike]

Richards other is from WVU

[Ohio_Cane]

^^^ I would say that is early enough haha

Posted by: UMike | January 27, 2014 at 12:38 PM
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I was JUST ABOUT to ask! LOL

[Keoki]

MY BAD, wrong pasted comment

If we lose TV, but flip Gaillard and JC Jackson and pick up Tavon Ross, is this class an "A"?

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM

HELLS YEAH OHIO!

F' the Turds & $EC!

[Dude on a Pale Horse]

O_C,

We need to flip Rob Ryan.

[dj moonbat]

But the offense did leave them hanging out to dry in every big game.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Sure, and if the offense is still like this in year 3 of Coley's tenure, I feel confident predicting that all of us will be calling for HIS head, too.

[Dude on a Pale Horse]

djmb brings the truth again.

[UMike]

Miami offered 2015 4-Star DB Garrett Taylor from VA today...

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Garrett-Taylor-145497

[UMike]

Golden met with Dwyer 2015 QB Daniel Parr today...

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Daniel-Parr-157221

[Ohio_Cane]

Perryman is #21 in ESPN's top 25 players for 2013:

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/66414/2013-top-25-player-countdown-no-21-2

[30CINCO]

ESPN says our D improved in 2013

Making the case for Perryman: The junior from Coral Gables, Fla. was the cornerstone of a much-improved Miami defense in 2013, landing on numerous first-team All-ACC lists. Perryman led the Hurricanes with 108 tackles (good for fifth in the ACC) and had six different games in which he recorded at least 10 tackles.

[Ohio_Cane]

Wells Dusenbury ‏@DuseReport1063 23s

#Canes HC Al Golden was at Dwyer today. Asked about '15 QB Daniel Parr, '15 WR Tavares Martin, '15 DB Jarius Adams & '16 RB Cornelius Smith.

[dj moonbat]

ESPN says our D improved in 2013

Making the case for Perryman: The junior from Coral Gables, Fla. was the cornerstone of a much-improved Miami defense in 2013. . .

Posted by: 30CINCO | January 27, 2014 at 01:08 PM

Sure. Improved to 89th in total D, and 65th in scoring D. Before the year 2011, would ANY of us have thought of those as anything other than horrible rankings for a Miami defense?

[86Cane]

VT had scoring drives of 51, 54 and 17 yds. They had an 80 yd fumble return for a TD.

Eight of our 11 drives were six plays or less, including 6 that were three and outs.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 27, 2014 at 12:09 PM

Yeah we all agree that is not winning football. But what's your point?

[Ohio_Cane]

As of right now, here's the visitor list for the last weekend of this recruiting cycle:

January 31st

Treon Harris - ATH FSU commit
Travonte Valentine - DT Undecided
Patrick Porter - CB Wash St commit
Brayden Lenius - WR Undecided
Kameron McKnight - RB/ ATH Undecided
Lamont Gaillard - DT UGA commit

[86Cane]

Ohio.. I still think it is an "A" class without any of the guys you mentioned. At the Very least a "B+". Grabbing either TV, Jackson or Harris will be an "A++". We hit South Florida hard, we got DL help and maybe the best OL class in the nation. If it isnt an "A", it is only because we didnt bring in another RB which I think we need.

Posted by: UMike | January 27, 2014 at 12:34 PM

OMG...UMike and I agree 100% on this!

I hear soft jazz and see candlelight in our future...

[86Cane]

Sure, and if the offense is still like this in year 3 of Coley's tenure, I feel confident predicting that all of us will be calling for HIS head, too.

Posted by: dj moonbat | January 27, 2014 at 12:47 PM

There IT is right there.

[Dude on a Pale Horse]

djmb,

Some of us have learned to accept the mediocrity, please don't rock the boat and upset us. #itsallabouttheuofpennstateofmiam

[86Cane]

I know the defense was not good all year. But the offense did leave them hanging out to dry in every big game.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM

Finally, I think this is a statement that we ALL can agree on?

[UMike]

ESPN says our D improved in 2013

Making the case for Perryman: The junior from Coral Gables, Fla. was the cornerstone of a much-improved Miami defense in 2013, landing on numerous first-team All-ACC lists. Perryman led the Hurricanes with 108 tackles (good for fifth in the ACC) and had six different games in which he recorded at least 10 tackles.

Posted by: 30CINCO | January 27, 2014 at 01:08 PM

They must of wrote that before we actually started playing decent teams lol.. to say the D was "much improved" showed they didnt actually watch lol

[86Cane]

I would say that is early enough haha

Posted by: UMike | January 27, 2014 at 12:38 PM

I told Al what U said about the whole "foot in the door" appraoch and apparently he is listening? LOL

[Ohio_Cane]

Kenny Kadji signed with Rio Grande (NBA D-League)

[Dude on a Pale Horse]

It surprises me that Kadji hadn't made the bench of an NBA team.

[Go Canes]

Yeah we all agree that is not winning football. But what's your point?

Posted by: 86Cane | January 27, 2014 at 01:18 PM

Just pointing out that while our D did very poorly at times last season, they were often hurt tremendously by poor execution by the offense. VT had to gain a total of 120 yds on offense to get 4 touchdowns.

[Go Canes]

Some of us have learned to accept the mediocrity, please don't rock the boat and upset us. #itsallabouttheuofpennstateofmiam

Posted by: The Dude | January 27, 2014 at 01:21 PM

Another line from the cliche hall of fame.

Maybe some of us understand, not accept, the reasons behind the problems and are glad to see our staff brining in major talent this season to start changing it.

[Go Canes]

Anthony Chiang‏@Anthony_Chiang28 mins
#Canes HC Al Golden visited Dwyer and asked about 2015 QB Daniel Parr, 2015 WR Tavares Martin, 2015 DB Jarius Adam, 2016 RB Cornelius Smith.

[CaneRock]

Just pointing out that while our D did very poorly at times last season, they were often hurt tremendously by poor execution by the offense.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 27, 2014 at 01:52 PM

"Maybe some of us understand, not accept, the reasons behind the problems and are glad to see our staff brining in major talent this season to start changing it."

Posted by: Go Canes | January 27, 2014 at 01:55 PM

There you go again, trying to have it both ways. You can't say that we executed poorly, and then turn around and say the incoming talent will fix things.

Which one is it...Coley?...or the talent that WE DID HAVE (Dorsett & Johnson), that got injured?

I say it was the talent, some guys just "execute" better than others.

And Al Golden can't have it both ways either. He can't say that I'm worried about the depth at WR, and say that we need a big time RB when He was trying to get Collins...and then turn around and throw Coley under the bus, when Duke & Dorsett got hurt.

[Go Canes]

I can have it both ways becaus both ways is correct.

We need improvement on both sides of the ball, not just on defense. And while the defense was our worst offender, offensive inconsistency added to their problems.

This team has holes to fill everywhere. You can't operate at 74 scholarships and expect to field a complete team. Period.

This class is a big step towards our rebuilding. It has big time help in our biggest areas of need and adds depth to some positions where we continue to be thin.

[UpNorthCane27]

Treon Harris to THE U!!!!

[Dude on a Pale Horse]

Maybe the defense can't stop the same plays over and over and over again because the NCAA cloud was so thick they couldn't see the formations?

[86Cane]

The Associated Press ‏@AP 23m
It's so cold that:
- Chicago closes its schools
- Indiana restricts traffic
- Michigan deals with multiple crashes

IT'S ABOUT 70 IN WINTER HAVEN AND 80 IN MIAMI.

[CaneRock]

Go Canes, you're either disingenuous...confused...or you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

You also said this...

VT had to gain a total of 120 yds on offense to get 4 touchdowns.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 27, 2014 at 01:52 PM

How can you blame the offense for THAT! You do realize that we had 3 STs miscues, that led to a short field for VT...DON'T YOU?!

[LB]

"And Al Golden can't have it both ways either. He can't say that I'm worried about the depth at WR, and say that we need a big time RB when He was trying to get Collins...and then turn around and throw Coley under the bus, when Duke & Dorsett got hurt."

Interesting.

Our WR depth is fine. Between Coley, Dorsett, Scott, Waters, Lewis, and Berrios... I'm sure there are at least four starters there.

RB's? Duke is the best in the country when healthy. I'm a fan of Gus, but another year or two in Camp Swasey is in order. Dallas Crawford is more than capable enough to start vs. the mid-line ACC opponents (Ga. Tech/UNC/BC). Hopefully Yearby can be productive enough in offseason to compete.

QB? Loving it. I can't remember a time when we had a solid competition. If what you guys are telling me is correct, there will be three legit contenders (Ryan Williams!, Olsen, and Brad Kaaya). Let them fight it out.

TE? Not a fan of the lack of production. There has to be a 50 catch guy in there to make the offense pop. Walford is athletic as hell, but streaky. I'd love for Sandland to push him out, or push him to make him steady. Plus side: Williams has the best ball placement of a QB since Berlin.

OL? Don't blame the offensive line for QB woes, as they had plenty of time. I hate losing Linder, but two EE's will offset the loss.

[LB]

Somebody for the love of God put Elder at tailback.

[CaneRock]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And even with all that, Coley's offense STILL! put 28 on the board...ON A WET TRACK!

What's Duh'Nofrexcuses excuse?

[CaneRock]

Posted by: LB | January 27, 2014 at 02:27 PM

Golden made those comments before the season.

[86Cane]

VT had to gain a total of 120 yds on offense to get 4 touchdowns.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 27, 2014 at 01:52 PM

Yeah that's not good and I agree that we need improvement on both sides of the ball and that the O did not help the D nearly enough. U are correct the blame goes both ways and there is plenty to go around, NOT just on D.

BUT just because there is a T/O should not mean an automatic score. The UM D could have held VT to a FG or got a T/O of their own or sacked the QB and made them punt but THAT never happened.

But how about this year instead of blaming our team (players AND coaches) for failing so badly how about we just shame the OTHER team and go out there and whoop dey azz so badly they go crying on home to Mama?

Yeah, how about THAT plan?

[Go Canes]

I'm none of the above. I didn't say the offense turned it over did I?

Did you read what was under that too? Our offense did nothing that entire game as well.

We were plauged by turnovers, the offense did nothing and the defense played terrible.

What is so confusing about that?

[CaneRock]

BUT just because there is a T/O should not mean an automatic score.

Posted by: 86Cane | January 27, 2014 at 02:31 PM

Yeah SOUP! In the coaching world, that's what you call..."Sudden Change"!

[86Cane]

Somebody for the love of God put Elder at tailback.

Posted by: LB | January 27, 2014 at 02:28 PM

Can I get an AMEN from the congregation!

[canezilla]

HEADED TO SHARK VALLEY THIS WEEKEND CALLE OCHO

[86Cane]

Maybe the defense can't stop the same plays over and over and over again because the NCAA cloud was so thick they couldn't see the formations?

Posted by: The Dude | January 27, 2014 at 02:22 PM

Now that made me LOL!

Maybe it wasn't the NCAA cloud but the one from all of the States that are legalizing marijuana that got carried by the Jetstream and drifted over the 305?

[Ohio_Cane]

Hurricanes Baseball ‏@CanesBaseball 6m

#Canes ranked in Top 20 in three polls - Baseball America (#16), Collegiate Baseball (#13) & now Perfect Game (#20): http://gocan.es/BASEpolls14

[86Cane]

HEADED TO SHARK VALLEY THIS WEEKEND CALLE OCHO

Posted by: canezilla | January 27, 2014 at 02:36 PM

#SmartMan

#GoOutsideAndPlay

[Dude on a Pale Horse]

Amen on Elder to Tailback.

[NY Trooper]

As of right now, here's the visitor list for the last weekend of this recruiting cycle:

January 31st

Treon Harris - ATH FSU commit
Travonte Valentine - DT Undecided
Patrick Porter - CB Wash St commit
Brayden Lenius - WR Undecided
Kameron McKnight - RB/ ATH Undecided
Lamont Gaillard - DT UGA commit

"So you're telling me there's a chance" (in my best Jim Carrey voice)

[Da U N Houston]

I know its easy to bash on the D, but do realize that after we lost Duke and Dorsett, how many 3 and outs we had. Of course the D gave up a lot of points and yards, they were on the field ALL the time. Even after turnovers, our O would go 3 and out! How many 3 and shorts did we have to punt? No matter how great your D is, no D is going play the WHOLE game with no breather:

VT - VT had 26 first downs, Miami 12 (3-12 for third downs)
Mia: 13 possessions (Miami with ball)
1. 2 play = 81 yds TD
2. Fumble
3. Fumble
4. 6 plays = Punt
5. 4 plays = loss on Downs
6. 9 plays = 77 yds TD
7. 3 plays = punt
8. 3 plays = punt
9. 3 plays = punt
10. 10 plays = 54 yds fieldgoal
11. 2 plays = 77yd TD
12. 3 plays = punt
13. 9 plays = end of game

And Against UL we had the ball for 11 possesions, and we only had 3, yes 3 possessions where we had more than 5 plays!!

Find me one team with an offensive production that bad in keeping the chains moving and I will show you a team who's Defense did worst that ours.

Look at the whole picture folks. Yes the D was not stout, but the O was part of the problem!

[Go Canes]

That's not me above, for whatever that's worth.

Really good info Da U. One of those three posessions of more than 5 plays was due to an unsportsmanlike penalty when we missed a 3rd down. That was the drive Morris fumbled in the red zone.

Lot's of work to do. Need our staff to close strong to bring in much needed help.

[86Cane]

Go Canes...It was a spammer from another blog. I deleted it and blocked them. Hatred runs deep "over there".

[CaneSawMassacre]

Da U n Houston...

Speak the truth.

Everybody wants to blast the the D.. Fairly enough. But anyboyd including the incredulous OGV, who watches football knows, Our offense set us up terribly.. All year.

I can't imagine a team worst on converting third downs. We sustained very few drives.

I told Soup our passing game was shot once Dorsett went down. Nobdoy cared to hear, but he was the only real threat to stretch a defense and make them respect you.

Then DB's started creeping up.

Duke gets injured.

Then we have no real threat through the backfield.

But even before that. How many three and outs was this team having???

And the real question comes to this....(Like soup said) Did Morris digress that badly? Was Morris that injured? Or did offensive coaching take 10 steps back and not two?

[30CINCO]

Posted by: Da U N Houston | January 27, 2014 at 03:20 PM
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Good info

[CaneSawMassacre]

You can say all you want about D, but I remember quite perfectly everybody saying we would need our offense to win vs top opponents. Funny enough we had a chance versus all of those top quality oppenents...

Down 21-14 at half to FSU
Down by 31-30 to Duke

But still the funny thing is.. despite how horrible our D is, our O was just as bad.

[CaneSawMassacre]

I want to make this straight too. I'm neither a Golden apologist or hater.

I would have moved forward if he left.

And I'm not completely satisfied with his coaching, but....

I find some of your conversations arrogant.

[CaneRock]

I agree with ya'll on the O.

But still, what did Duh'Onofrexcuses do exactly, to change the tides of those games. How many chances did He take...how many blitzes did He dial up?

[raizecane]

...how many blitzes did He dial up?

Posted by: CaneRock | January 27, 2014 at 03:55 PM

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I am guessing a lot but you have to excecute to be successful. And we failed in that area.

[CaneRock]

And again, for the life of me, how can somebody that coached in a state with Dick Lebeau, and Jim Johnson, have such an AVERAGE! blitz package. It's RIDICULOUS! how transparent we look, you can see us blitzing from a MILE AWAY!

[30CINCO]

Sure. Improved to 89th in total D, and 65th in scoring D. Before the year 2011, would ANY of us have thought of those as anything other than horrible rankings for a Miami defense?

Posted by: dj moonbat | January 27, 2014 at 01:16 PM

They must of wrote that before we actually started playing decent teams lol.. to say the D was "much improved" showed they didnt actually watch lol

Posted by: UMike | January 27, 2014 at 01:28 PM

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They could be talking about the PA/G improving from 30.5 in 2012 to 26.8 in 2013. Or maybe the defense giving up less yards per game from 486.4 in 2012 to 426.4 in 2013. Still bad, but improvement non the less. But hey, it's not me saying it, it's them.

[CaneSawMassacre]

how many do you dial up?

I'm not defending anybody..I watched every game like everybody else.

Do you dial up more in the Louisville game? After you were holding them to field goals?

Because I saw what Strong did to our offense and I was perplexed.. and mad. Can we not be that creative, but I had to go back and look and see that it was our offense that killed us that game.

Our D stymied the Heisman hopeful as long as you would have expected.

The funny thing is. . . Everybody expected Teddy to carve us up.

Yet, nobody talks about how our O played Houdini.. We all said. We need the O to score. Our D was balling in the first half. Our O could have blown Zeus himself and we still wouldn't have sniffed a first down.

Its all about understanding.

I'm not satisified with no D, but I have more reasoning than most.

And anybody that is willing to give Coley (a friend of a friend) the pass has to step back and check themself.

Morris - decline (and I want to make something perfectly clear. Yes, Miami should maintain a pro-style offense, but if you don't have a scrambling QB or a dominant running game aka BAMA then you are not a collegiate team. It makes no sense. Even before Morris got hurt. He is fast enough to get 6 yars by running. Dumbest things I've ever seen trying to turn him into a pocket QB only).
WR - ok ( but weird route progressions)
RB - ok (Duke was over and inappropriately utilized)
OL - solid ( but again goes back to QB)

[Da U N Houston]

I feel you CR, and completely agree. I think D'No was/is over his head. I really hope AG would take more ownership (not just saying it but doing it) of the D. Shoot, give Barrow a shot at calling the plays. I really believe in our DB's and we should be much better with TH3, Artie, Crawford, and Gunter. That is a very good group there who has improved as they are comfrotable. The safties will be much better. I like Carter to push Jenkins as a headhunter.

They must find a way to beat one on one matchups up front. I am hoping with 15-20 lbs added on AQM that he can be an everydown player, he beats his man. AND PLEASE leave McCord in the game. That dude just flat out makes plays when he's in there. Hopefully he is READY!

I am going to get some flack, but S. Green was just not atheletic enough to beat anyone. He was great at setting the edge, but that's it. We NEED to win the one on one battles and we are not doing that!

[Da U N Houston]

We NEED Gus to force the coaches to give him carries. I have to admit he got better as the season went along, similar to Coley (though Coley is light years better). If Gus is not better I truely think that will be on coaching b/c you can see that the kid wants to get better. He was just so big in highschool that coaches seem to never taught him how to lower his pads. But to that defense he should've been redshirted but we couldn't afford to.

[Montreal-Cane]

Tim "Ice" Harris is a class act. He has a great family and he is very very respected in the Miami community. The kids love him as a coach and a mentor. It would be nice to have him back at the U.

[CaneSawMassacre]

FYI

Maybe my boy Coley Should take the FSU stuff out of his facebook page while in the mist of recruiting our kids? No.....????

Also love how South Florida Express Football is the TOP Thing mentioned in others lol..

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[Da U N Houston]

Dumb question I know, but for the recruiting guru's and folks on the inside. Is it a done deal with N. Bethel II? Just can't see him going to TTU. Lubbock? It just doesn't make any sense!!!

1. He is the highest ranked player in their class.
2. There is no other Florida player in their class.
3. There is only 1, yes 1 player on their roster from the state of Florida????

Something doesn't add up. So again is he "Gone"?

[Ohio_Cane]

Bethel is gone. We've moved on.

[Da U N Houston]

And their D was worst than ours!

[30CINCO]

Gotta feed his family

[CaneSawMassacre]

Question Da U.. Do we want him back now?

I do... but the coaches may not be as forgiving (stupid I know)..

Most people thought he was overrated as is.. (don't kill me)
1. Undersized
2. relied on speed too much for instinct\
3. Speed didn't correlate for lack of instinct ( not 4.3 or quick change of direction guy)
4. Didn't show elite cover abilityy against the best or excellent leadership.

Given all that.
I still want him. Because I'm not sold on this DB class and I hate letting a kid from BTW go anywhere but here.. Yet, like you said. Something smelled fishy...

And I hope it is JC Jackson walking into the back door.

[CaneSawMassacre]

Bethel isn't getting money from TT.. He might get some perks at the school but we are not talking about A&M here guys..

Just a meddling Big 12 program..

He might get a "car or a school job" but he isn't getting duffle bag money there.

[30CINCO]

Gotta drive his family