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January 05, 2014

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raizecane

Anybody got the link to the press conference

Posted by: Sinistercane | January 06, 2014 at 12:39 PM


I was gonna ask the same thing but found it.

www.wegiveup500yardsandseenothingwrong.com

Posted by: raizecane | January 06, 2014 at 12:42 PM .

Sinistercane

Go Canes works for Soup used to gin up the blog hits and it's working

Dude on a Pale Horse

And last I checked, Al Golden lost Valentine with his weekend BS.

bermuda triangle


This is pretty good.

Posted by: laquinton | January 06, 2014 at 10:51 AM

Yes it was.
question for the al apologists/bagdad bob's on this blob. you talk about how golden saved us with the dark cloud of the ncaa --and i will credit him for guiding the program through the trouble. BUT, in the last 2 years, Al's record is 16-9. what was Bill o'briens record at Ped state? 15-9, 1 less win with much MUCH harsher sanctions than what we received. you will cite the uncertainty of the ncaa witch hunt --but psu had 4 bowl bams /ship reductions --hell players were allowed to leave without sitting out a year. he won 1 less game than Al and the gimp DC. and it was noted here that we've had top 20 recruiting classes during the ncaa mess. so it didn't seem to kill us in recruiting --i'll agree it hurt us.

I saw the No'D deniers quote Jordan Futch as saying No'D is a great coach and his scheme can work. I'll see your jordan futch and raise you an all-american / 1st round pick (p. Buchanon) or NFL'er eric winston or a LB on the greatest college LB crew ever (Darrin Smith) or another 1st round pick (duane starks) who have said this is garbage.

one last question for the propagandists employed by AL or No'D --if the talent isn't there to run the garbage scheme we are running now --Chip Kelly, who has acconplished a HELL of alot more in football than Al or No'D(bcs games, bowl wins,conf championships-- you know things we wish for now as cane fans) --said when he went to the eagles that he wasn't just going to bring a scheme he was going to fit his scheme to his players. a conference championship winning coach (BGSU) said the same thing. i know, i know --its bowling green --right and they have a freaking conf championship and we can hope to be them one day.

listening to that interview with joe --i lost 20 IQ points and 5 years off my life with the BS coming through the radio.

VfB_Cane

Manny tweeting from Golden's press conference:

Manny Navarro @Manny_Navarro
Al Golden said there will be no chancges to the coaching staff at #UM

Manny Navarro @Manny_Navarro
Golden on #Canes defense: "The answer right now is not change. It's continuity."

raizecane


Anybody got the link to the press conference

Posted by: Sinistercane | January 06, 2014 at 12:39 PM


I was gonna ask the same thing but found it.

www.wegiveup500yardsandseenothingwrong.com

Dude on a Pale Horse

Go Canes,

Its official, you don't get it. You called D'Onofrio average? Average? Okay, do you watch the games? He's not average, he's horrid.

Sinistercane

Anybody got the link to the press conference


Dude on a Pale Horse

Go Canes,

You are dreaming if you think Al Golden has the answers. Just keep enjoying the "upward trends." Meanwhile the rest of us keep living this nightmare. Butch Davis would certainly have been a viable option had Al got what he wanted from Penn State.

Dude on a Pale Horse

RCCF,

You will never not be a 12% because you have standards my friend. Just remember though that this is Penn State South. The coaches don't share your standards. I hate to say it, but we ain't going undefeated next year. Or any year where the qualifications for being the DC is being the HC's BFF.

Go Canes

Dude you are dreaming if you think Butch was ever going to get a look here.

RCCF

and Golden did throw Coley under the bus he is BUM for that.. I hate when ppl deflect attention from their wrong doings to shed light on someone else's wrongs...That is a Schmuck Move Alfred Really Schmucky!! First the Kids now the OC...Anybody but U and No'D huh...not your Nittanies Huh? UGH

RCCF12%

Go Canes

I think Coach D gets this season to prove his system can be something more than average.

There is every indication the two Juco DTs coming in are better than anything we've had and even though he's a freshman, I think Valentine is big and strong enough to make an impact.

To me it has all started there. We can't get pressure or stop the run with our front four, which negates a lot of what they want to get done.

If we have another season like this one, then he has to go.

RCCF

If U practice against DUMMIES then U believe the World Works Against Those that Aren't DUMMIES... ie the Offense thought they were going to be lights out because they practice against a CreamPuff Defense...Our Line is not challenged in practice because our DL doesnt challenge ppl on game days...Of Course Kehoe's boys wear them out but what happens on Saturday when REAL DL come in? We lack from within and it starts with the Coaches ie Excuse Makers...Never Will I Not be 12% but the Defense MUST Change Immediately..


RCCF12%

Keoki

Posted by: Canesteeler | January 06, 2014 at 12:27 PM

+1

UpNorthCane27

Go Canes, if you look at my previous posts I have criticized the offense also. I even went as far as to say that we lost the game against Louisville because our offense was terrible. But that is one game out of 13 my man.

All year long I criticized our 3 and outs and the terrible play of Morris. But sorry if I don't call for Coley to get fired after his first year, he deserves one more year to show improvement. NO'D on the other hand has had 3 years already.


We need to improve all around, that is for sure.

Canesteeler

For the sake of recruiting I am pleased AG is back. However he insulted my intelligence and wallet with the BS stats he gave. Man up and say he interviewed with his dream school, the team has not been well coached however this incoming class will bring about change in the coaches and on the playing field. He took the bytch route!

UMike

Go Canes..you don't think at the very least D'No should be let go?

Dude on a Pale Horse

2 years from now, we will remember last weekend as the weekend we should have hired Butch Davis.

orange 'n green in the vein

The Dude, there's not enough White Russian's in the world that makes Alverage Slogan football entertaining or acceptable, unless you're willfully ignorant to the disgraces to the legacy of the University of Miami stemming from what you see on display during it.

49-49. But some don't understand thanks to willful ignorance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK6sf5YX9ds

orange 'n green in the vein

Try ceasing with willful ignorance and you'll begin to understand.

Dude on a Pale Horse

OGV, let's just accept the mediocrity. Try this: Hey we made a bowl game, that's pretty good by our new Penn State standards.

Go Canes

And I for the life of me don't understand my lack of desire to fire everyone and start over for the third time in less than a decade makes me such an "optimist".

The fire Golden crowd is the same group that wanted Coker fired, then Randy and after Golden it will be the next guy.

Oh sorry, we were going to hire Chud or Schiano to come save the day right?

No wait, Charlie Strong was going to spurn Texas, leave Louisville and come here.

No I'm sorry, Richt was going to leave Georgia because he needs a change.

Now I got it, it was going to be Butch!

Please.

orange 'n green in the vein

Louisville;

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22

#1 total defense in the nation.

They win games stopping good offenses, like I told the CEO before the bowl game as I finished my beverages.

(Go to page three to find the trending upwards Hurricanes if you buy lemons from used car salesmen who can't get a contract from where they played in college when they demand one be offered in exchange for a blue and white cover edition of a joke of a 300 page bundle of toilet paper substitute. Or continue with willful ignorance, makes no difference to me in the long run . . .)

orange 'n green in the vein

Love when people who claim to be Hurricane football fans insult the program to edify the worst coach in its modern history without any sense of irony or self reflection.

Then they go and find tweets talking about how awesome FSU is and post them on here, again without any sense of irony or self reflection, while claiming to support Hurricane football in an attempt to engender their idolatry of the worst coach in modern UM football history to others.

All while claiming to support Hurricane football when asking for the same chance as longtime or lifelong Hurricane coaches and players who won championships before they were head coaches because they engage in idol worship of a guy who demanded a contract from the school he played for in college that wasn't UM and got laughed at while they denied him.

All without irony or self-reflection. It's like they're being willfully ignorant or something . . .

UMike

Go Canes.. I am with you there and I have said it plenty of times Coley needs work also. But the D has got worse over years, and with players returning. Coley is in his first year and lost his best players. STILL, no reason for the O to be that bad with time to prepare. Its scary to lose 1 player and the whole O wen to shyt lol

Go Canes

Up north did you see what the offense did in that game?

Does that haunt you too?


j.w.

I HOPED he would hit one out of the park with Joe Rose today. Instead, he fouled out to 3B, never really thought he would be so tone deaf. He is definitely more Yaz than Big Papi. Fortunately he's got one more at bat today to get it right.

Dude on a Pale Horse

That's exactly what they think UMike.

UMike

I wonder if Golden and D'no think yhey can do it because they had mild success at Temple against lesser teams?

UpNorthCane27

Go Canes I like your optimism man I really do, and I see a lot of me in your posts. unfortunately what happened this year with our defense and especially that Lousiville game performance will forever haunt me until D'NO is fired. I have faith and will always be a 12%er but my will is being tested lol.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Keoki,

I think a lot of the fire D'Onofrio stuff means fire the scheme, bring in someone who knows what they're doing. Befoe last weekend many wanted Golden to run the program and let his coordinators run their schemes. Because Al's 3-4 is the worst defense in America. That's a fact no one can debate, unless they're blind Al Golden jock sniffers.

UpNorthCane27

Coach Golden is a good dude man, who really did a good job carrying us through the NCAA mess (im not talking about performances on the field). His downfall will be his BFF. Its plain and simple, the writing is on the wall, and the stats are there to prove it.

I'll keep rooting for my CANES day in day out. and I will pray every night that golden sees the light and fires D'NO!!!

UMike

Go Canes, if you don't think our D is currently a raging dumpster fire, something is really, really wrong haha

orange 'n green in the vein

http://oi42.tinypic.com/29msuty.jpg

Pictures, their worth in words is valuable people like to say.

Here's your trending up defense under Alverage Slogan, head in the sand for four years fans.

Dude on a Pale Horse

My 4 month old daughter is a Sesame Street watchin fool, lol.

Go Canes

If you don't think this program was a raging dumpster fire a month after Golden got here then something is really, really wrong.



UMike

Keoki, Im not sure who could be worse. I mean, we are last in the ACC so if anything it says the same lol

UMike

Golden may very well be the man for the job, but he HAS to see that D'No is holding his process back.

Keoki

IF Al was to release D'No, then what's to say he doesn't bring in another D'No-clone & we have the same or worse results?

Dude on a Pale Horse

UpNorth,

You are brilliant. It finally makes sense. I can see the upward trend now. Lol, Golden is even lying to himself.

Sinistercane

Sinister I believe in giving Golden the same chance Randy, Butch, Coker and Jimmy got.

Nothing more, nothing less.

The funny thing is guys like you will be firing the next coach the moment he doesn't win as much as your expert eye thinks we shoud.


Golden own words when he arrived the program was a train wreck but that train wreck had a top 25 defense

UMike

I didnt think of that...our right..we gave up more yards as the season went on lol

UpNorthCane27

"Upward trend" meaning it will be giving "up" more yards Umike. Golden was honest lol

UMike

Go Canes.. you believe in anything Al Golden related lol.. I bet you believe the D is on an upward trend too lol

UMike

Man.. I cant get that line out of my head "upward trend".. the worst defense in the ACC is on an upward trend lol

Go Canes

Sinister I believe in giving Golden the same chance Randy, Butch, Coker and Jimmy got.

Nothing more, nothing less.

The funny thing is guys like you will be firing the next coach the moment he doesn't win as much as your expert eye thinks we shoud.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Mark can give up 500 yards and 30 points all year and Al's not firing him. He will point to some statistic that shows how we've improved. Then he'll blame the talent (players) or Coley. See, Golden doesn't understand what we do. That a defense can win games. That it can be dominant to a point where the other team just quits. And you can forget about the admin doing anything. Just make it to bowl games and be nice to the media and alums. We will be putting up with these 7,8,9 win seasons until 2020 folks. This is Penn State football.

UMike

D'No, doesnt suck, his D sucks because the NCAA mess..didnt you know that? lol

LB

I've been amused by all the chatter lately. I didn't think Golden would leave, but interview at other places to leverage a higher salary. I don't blame the man.

It would be highly illogical to take another rebuilding job at Penn State/Texas, infuse your "core values," rehire, re-recruit, and reestablish yourself. If it's not the NFL or getting fired, Golden stays.

As for recruiting, who cares? Until they sign and show up on campus, they aren't Canes. So until NSD and into early signees, count me out.

If D'Onofrio doesn't get the axe, consider me out of the Golden fan pool and into pure neutral territory. D'Onofrio sucks on a legendary scale, and we've all provided evidence to it.

UpNorthCane27

At the current pace were going our defense is on pace to give up a whooping 6000 yards or more next season.

How did I get that number? well simple 12 games x 500 yards (avg for our D)= 6000 yards. That's not even including the National Championship game that we win(LMAO Umike, that's wishful thinking I know)

SinisterCane

Offensive player with a defensive philosophy, the FAIL starts right there

SinisterCane

Go Canes is the Happy Program in the Matrix, I guess he has taken too many of those blue pills

UpNorthCane27

lmao leave it to (TN) to have blockers and rushers.

So this whole notion of setting our D back because were changing the philosophy and firing a DC is bull, these kids know man to man they know how to be aggressive and in your face. All this zone stuff is passive and soft as hell mayne.

12%er but goddammit Golden please provide your BFF that pink slip.

laquinton

Blood in the water is just referring to D'No . He knows not what he is doing. Look at all teams that run the 3-4 in professional and college. They have a true nose . We don't have that. True linebackers.. we can't even recruit those.

Miami starts out the season giving up 500 again it's a done deal for ol Marky

UMike

Just imaginable if D'No stays throughout Goldens current contract.. that is 6... more years of D'No lol

laquinton

I just think the "process" needs to have some red marks in it. It's somewhat flawed. This defense that Al himself loves will not work. I'm all for bigger LB that can cover and hit but it seems like he is doing his best to lose games with the defensive scheme. I was hoping for him to go because he won't fire anybody. We have a safety coaching our running backs ? Why did duke not properly know how to hold on to the ball in the open field nor in traffic ? Clinton taught him that ? Why can't Gas lower his pads all season ? Why can't we have more than. I can't root for fsu I like jimbos plan. We can only hope and trust Al knows what he's doing for the sake of the program.

30CINCO

Anyone know this guy?

"Fire Golden, he a traitor! How dare he think about anyone else! Hire Butch, he wants to come back!" lol

AND.....before you hurt yourself into thinking I don't like Butch, look at my prior post about Butch.

UMike

UpNorth.. when I play some games with guys up here (TN) there are like 2-3 guys blocking an rushing...was the first I ever saw it in street ball lol

UMike

UpNorth.. yes, we really never played with a line, just one guy covering he QB and rushing... was always man to man, and non-stop talking lol

UMike

Did LB write that other article?? lol.. Good info.. Go Canes, did you read it?

CaneRock

We have had plenty of 4-Star guys commit, but nothing elite since Wilfork.

Posted by: UMike | January 06, 2014 at 11:16 AM

YUP!

And we haven't had an elite TE since Shockey & Winslow...this Lenius kid is CERTAINLY! not any of the aforementioned's second comings...AT ALL!

UpNorthCane27

Firing No'D and going back to the 4-3 and playing more man to man will not be difficult at all for these kids...

Umike, Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't man to man all they play in the streets and parks of south florida?

Our D'coord or lack thereof sucks so lets all just accept that, the sooner the better. This way we can move on to talking about something else lol.

Dude on a Pale Horse

laquinton,

Great article proving that Golden has no answers in regards to scheme.

UMike

It has been over 10 years since Miami landed an elite DT. We have had plenty of 4-Star guys commit, but nothing elite since Wilfork.

CaneRock

CR.. did you notice who got protected/defended and who got thrown under the bus?

Posted by: UMike | January 06, 2014 at 11:12 AM

YUP!

He did a job on Coley I tell ya'.

UMike

CR.. did you notice who got protected/defended and who got thrown under the bus?

UMike

Go Canes.. I think my vision is pretty dam clear... D'No and our D is the worst in the dam ACC!!! How is that not clear? Come on man lol

CaneRock

Golden is a JOKE!
Damn near that entire interview was statistics & excuses...PHUCKIN! PATHETIC!

UMike

At this point I would rather take a filler a DT or LB, we got WR's... and we cant possible have that many spots left lol

herbieibis

At this stage of the game in recruiting, all we got is some dam plan "C's". We got 3 shots to up grade ourselves the next couple of weeks. At LB we have Young & Minor, coming in to visit and we have Prince coming in at OL, anything else are going to be just fillers, or as The Herb calls them space takers. If we don't reel Valentine back in, this is really going to stink. We have enough back-up plans on the roster at that position and what have they done, King & Moore. What has the JUCCO ranks done for us at that position? We had a one year reprieve schedule wise and blew that, now next year, it's back to the real world. Our depth on defense will be young, especially up front and we already know, aside from Perrrymen our sad state at LB is, so look for year 4 to be about the same, coughing up 450-550 a game. Is they're a light at the end of this 12 year tunnel?

Go Canes

It comes down to this: Golden is a man of clear conviction and he and his "core values" are either going to win at UM or they are not. If he wins in the next TWO YEARS then fine. And if he doesn't then he gets fired. Either way the problem solves itself over time as most things always do.


Posted by: 86Cane | January 06, 2014 at 10:27 AM

I agree with this completely.

But to talk about firings, failures and the death of our program after three of the worst seasons this program has ever been through lacks the vision stated above.


CGNC

Posted by: 86Cane | January 06, 2014 at 10:27 AM

Great post. True. True. True. I was just excited at the prospect of a coaching upgrade without having to "fire" someone. Oh well.

GO CANES

86Cane

This is pretty good.

Posted by: laquinton | January 06, 2014 at 10:51 AM

WOW, JUST, WOW!

UMike

Hopefully we see some reports soon about the staff visiting with Valentine.

CGNC

Posted by: NativeCane | January 05, 2014 at 10:02 PM

LOL. Not much work now for an unemployed game day activity director like me.

UMike

Ohio..he might be talented, but he is a plan C guy..at least this year. Considering that Miami missed on 4 of the top local WR's. If Miami hit on any combination of the 2 between Lane, Dixson, Holmes or Rudolph, Lenius wouldnt even have a commitable offer lol... Berrios and Brady were plan B guys... Lenius and Njoku are plan C guys. I am not saying they arent talented, but according to the guys we missed on, they were Miami's plan C lol

Da U N Houston

Is the sky ever NOT falling around here?....IJS

There is no need for our team to read other team blogs to get motivation. We provide all they need right here!

Not a homer, and yes our D sucked the second half of the year and our O never really came though ALL year. Glad Morris is gone, I think he really started to believe the hype. But now time to get in the weightroom, and film room and get better. Including D'No and Coley.


Go Canes! Carry on!

Ohio_Cane

Honestly, Lenius reminds me of Brandon Marshall (NOT saying he's as good as him). Maybe it's the Bears looking uni's, but his size and hands also.

jsy

Honestly I felt valentine would decommit when we started offering lower tier dts, so I'm ready to hear the no talent excuse next year bc this staff can't develop anyone.

I can't blame valentine though if my goal was to make it to the league and it was um vs lsu. That would be a no brainer for lsu unless I want to play db then dno is the man with no equal.

Ohio_Cane

Lenius is NOT a plan C guy. Plan B at worst. This kid is legit. Good routes, good hands, fights for the ball and can do something with it after. He's been Kaaya's main target basically for most of the year.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/o/944546/

laquinton

http://sebastianspub.wordpress.com/2014/01/06/no-d-in-coral-gables/

This is pretty good.

UMike

With all the WR talent in Florida we should never have to go to CA for a 2-Star recruit. But I like his size.

UMike

Ohio.. I was reading about that. He does have a Miami offer and Kaaya has been on him. I know he is big, but I think he is a plan C guy.

Ohio_Cane

Valentine will come back, IMO.

Kaaya's teammate WR Brayden Lenius (6'5, 215) will be committing to us soon as well, IMO.

86Cane

Hopefully the process works and Golden isn't in over his head as it seems he is.

Posted by: The Dude | January 06, 2014 at 10:39 AM

We ALL will know soon enough.

UMike

I dont think he comes back, and Miami probably takes a 2nd tier guy like Edgar Cerenord.

UMike

JSY.. he did Tweet he was decommiting "until" he coaching situation is done. But he also said LSU is now his leader. At this point IDK, I cant remember a player ever decommiting and hem coming back.

UMike

If Coley does the same job he did with Morris this year, it wont matter who our QB is lol

dg

As the great Don Meredith should to say, "Turn Out the Lights, The party's over"..RIP the University of Miami football program courtesy of Al Golden & Co!

jsy

Umike do you think there is a chance valentine comes back? I hope so or well just hear more lack of talent excuses.

UMike

Miami didnt really go after Joyner, they did Reid but only after he blew up in he All-Star game lol.. RS wanted big coners

UMike

I thought Jamal Reid was gonna BALL too lol

UMike

CR..Shannon did not go after Joyner. Miami offered, but never really pursued him. Same with Reid until it was to late. RS wanted big corners

Dude on a Pale Horse

UMike, you are right about Harris.

86Cane, well said, its what we have to deal with, hopefully the process works and Golden isn't in over his head as it seems he is.

He has ZERO credit with me. He better win big next year. D better be fixed next year.

86Cane

UMike...IF we win it's all good and IF we keep losing Golden will get fired. So either way let it play out and the "problem" will solve itself. I have already stated that unless Gray Crow is the starting QB next year that I am NOT buying season tickets.

GRAY CROW!

CaneRock

Joyner would of qualified, he was a private school kis. Shannon didnt want him because he was small. Just like Greg Reid

Posted by: UMike | January 06, 2014 at 10:27 AM

BOTH! of ya'll are WRONG! LMAO!
Shannon wanted em' both. He wanted Reid so bad, He recruited His cousin, Jamal Reid.

UMike

86.. thats why it is funny lol

UMike

Miami WILL lose 4 games next year. I hate to say that, but it is true. We got Nebraska, Cincy, Louisville, FSU, VT etc next year. We will be younger on the DL, at DT at least and will have a rooking QB. There is also a good chance our best player on D will be gone.

86Cane

Texas..I just think it was funny he say both UF and FSU run the same scheme as Miami lol

Posted by: UMike | January 06, 2014 at 10:26 AM

I want to see a experienced coach like Schiano or Davis break down film on the three defenses and then tell us if the three schools all run the same defense. Someone just saying that is nonsense.

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