« By The Numbers: Against The Wind | Main | By The Numbers: Is The U Star Struck? »

January 13, 2014

Comments

Go Canes

Posted by: CaneRock | January 14, 2014 at 09:13 AM

Let out the teeny tiny itty bitty litte fact that a ton of those players were suspended for varying amounts of games that season, all as the NCAA Shapiro bomb was dropping.

Sinister, Carerock on a roll this AM, full of hard facts.

Go Canes


Barry Jackson‏@flasportsbuzz12s
Malcolm Bunche, who was expected to be a key piece of UM's o-line in 2014, has decided to transfer.UM gave him permission to contact schools

30CINCO

Let out the teeny tiny itty bitty litte fact that a ton of those players were suspended for varying amounts of games that season, all as the NCAA Shapiro bomb was dropping.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 14, 2014 at 09:32 AM
-----------------------------------------------

LMAO, good point, I forgot about that.

CaneRock?

30CINCO

Barry Jackson‏@flasportsbuzz12s
Malcolm Bunche, who was expected to be a key piece of UM's o-line in 2014, has decided to transfer.UM gave him permission to contact schools

Posted by: Go Canes | January 14, 2014 at 09:35 AM
-----------------------------------------------
Too bad if he leaves, he's a good player. Hopeful Kc can get in the rotation.

CaneRock

Golden said that one of the reasons he didnt make a change at the DC spot was this solid class coming in....

Posted by: UMike | January 14, 2014 at 09:16 AM

See what I'm sayin' UMike LMAO, EVERYTHING! has to be PERFECT! for this guy to succeed...EVERYTHING! dawg LMAO! DAMN! With the injuries we had on O, why didn't Coley get that BOTD, I mean, He called this man name out ON THE RADIO! dawg. But NOT ONCE!, did He even REMOTELY!, REMOTELY...say D'Onofrio's name...NOT ONCE DAWG! Why dawg, hug, WHY?!

##"WHY THE DEFENSE NOT WORKIN'!"

TJL

Crazy people:

http://www.pageqsports.com/2014/01/dear-twitter-goons-harassing-recruits/

SinisterCane


Posted by: CaneRock | January 14, 2014 at 09:13 AM

Let out the teeny tiny itty bitty litte fact that a ton of those players were suspended for varying amounts of games that season, all as the NCAA Shapiro bomb was dropping.

Sinister, Carerock on a roll this AM, full of hard facts.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 14, 2014 at 09:32 AM


Just another excuse for the play on the field. I guess when you were watching our defense give up 200 yds. rushing every dam week you blame it all on the NCAA

nemo2002

200 yards?
Don't you mean 500 yards?

SinisterCane

Posted by: CaneRock | January 14, 2014 at 09:13 AM

Let out the teeny tiny itty bitty litte fact that a ton of those players were suspended for varying amounts of games that season, all as the NCAA Shapiro bomb was dropping.

Sinister, Carerock on a roll this AM, full of hard facts.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 14, 2014 at 09:32 AM


You love you some 2011

CaneRock

Let out the teeny tiny itty bitty litte fact that a ton of those players were suspended for varying amounts of games that season, all as the NCAA Shapiro bomb was dropping.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 14, 2014 at 09:32 AM

Golden SAID!..."We had enough talent on the field to win this game tonight." <<<<<<< THAT'S! what He said. Am I right, or am I wrong?

You take Him at His word for EVERYTHING!, but you didn't take Him at His word for THAT! Or maybe He made amends for that, when He said He "walked into a train wreck"...

Which one do you believe, "having enough talent"?...or "walking into a train wreck"?
GOTTA! pick one, can't have it both ways...

SinisterCane


200 yards?
Don't you mean 500 yards?

Posted by: nemo2002 | January 14, 2014 at 09:48 AM


200 Yds. rushing

30CINCO

Just another excuse for the play on the field. I guess when you were watching our defense give up 200 yds. rushing every dam week you blame it all on the NCAA

Posted by: SinisterCane | January 14, 2014 at 09:43 AM
-----------------------------------------------

My questions was real simple, after evaluating the talent level (star level) we've had since 2006, is it safe to say that Golden has won just as much with LESS talent?

True or False?

UMike

I think the SOS ranking cannot really be argued... we could play a softer schedule and actually move up the SOS ranking if other teams play cupcakes also. But IDK how it could be argued that the 2013 schedule wasnt at least the easiness in recent memory. FAU, Savannah State (we had to go to a running clock!!!), USF (probably the worst USF we have played yet), UVA, WF and a 4-8 Florida team. IDK if is the easiest in UM history, but it is the easiest in recent memory.

Ohio_Cane

I think the SOS ranking cannot really be argued... we could play a softer schedule and actually move up the SOS ranking if other teams play cupcakes also. But IDK how it could be argued that the 2013 schedule wasnt at least the easiness in recent memory. FAU, Savannah State (we had to go to a running clock!!!), USF (probably the worst USF we have played yet), UVA, WF and a 4-8 Florida team. IDK if is the easiest in UM history, but it is the easiest in recent memory.

Posted by: UMike | January 14, 2014 at 09:50 AM
-----------------------------------

So how much softer was FAU's schedule?

Ohio_Cane

Also, I wish people would stop saying we beat a "bad 4-8 Florida team". They weren't a 4-8 team when we beat them and injuries decimated them after we played.

SinisterCane


My questions was real simple, after evaluating the talent level (star level) we've had since 2006, is it safe to say that Golden has won just as much with LESS talent?

True or False?

Posted by: 30CINCO | January 14, 2014 at 09:50 AM


Golden has done less with more talent

Go Canes

So Canerock when you're done say all you said in Caps and with exclamation points, does it mean the players weren't suspended??

No matter what you quote, scream or put caps on, this team got hit with an atom bomb and had it's best players suspended, plain and simple.

But to answer your argument, what is a coach supposed to say? Something like "Well without those suspended players we have absolutely no chance. I think I'm going to call and forfeit."?

Get a grip man.

UMike

Miami is a major big time program, and sanctions or not, we have talented players. Even if we were "stuck" with all the left over 3-star guys from South Florida, we should NEVER be last in the ACC in D. I mean, come on!!! Duke, UVA, WF, Syracuse, GT, PITT etc etc are all ahead of us. That should NEVER happen. I dont understand how that point can be argued or why anyone would make up excuses for it.

trianglecane

Champions are made when you get knocked down, and you get back up"

Help us keep #BuildingChampions.

Well after the last two years. I am pretty sure the CANES will win the 2015 Super Bowl!!

Jokes.. all jokes.

GO CANES!!

Ohio_Cane

Losing Bunche hurts. Pretty bad, too. Luckily we're pretty deep at OL and have a LOT of talent coming in.

dj moonbat

Barry Jackson‏@flasportsbuzz12s
Malcolm Bunche, who was expected to be a key piece of UM's o-line in 2014, has decided to transfer.UM gave him permission to contact schools

Posted by: Go Canes | January 14, 2014 at 09:35 AM


He's transferring as a JUNIOR? WTF?

UMike

Ohio.. Im sure FAU's schedule was softer.. but I never brought up FAU.. so take that up with someone else.. My point is that the SOS is very flawed year to year and shouldnt be the base for an argument about how bad the schedule was lol...


Ohio.. I have said it before the Florida team we beat was not the same that ended 4-8, BUT, they were the same team that couldnt score and had 5 turnovers and lost to Georgia Southern lol

UMike

Why are we even still talking about the 2011 suspensions lol.. the focus should be on why we have had the worst D in the ACC the last couple years lol

Go Canes

Picked at random the schedule of perhaps our best team ever:


8-31-00 MCNEESE STATE (Thur.) WON 61-14
9-9-00 at Washington LOST 29-34
9-23-00 at West Virginia WON 47-10
9-30-00 at Rutgers WON 64-6
10-7-00 FLORIDA STATE WON 27-24
10-21-00 at Temple WON 45-17
10-28-00 LOUISIANA TECH WON 42-31
11-4-00 VIRGINIA TECH WON 41-21
11-11-00 PITTSBURGH WON 35-7
11-18-00 at Syracuse WON 26-0
11-25-00 BOSTON COLLEGE WON 52-6

Temple, Louisiana Tech, West Virginia, McNeese State and Rutgers were on that schedule.

Not a knock on that team, they could roll with anyone, just illustrating the fact, key word FACT, all teams from great to just ok play a ton of bad teams every single season.

It's part of the game and pointless to argue about.

CaneRock

But to answer your argument, what is a coach supposed to say? Something like "Well without those suspended players we have absolutely no chance. I think I'm going to call and forfeit."?

Oh, so now you speak for Golden?!
UN-FREAKIN'!-believable!

UMike

Go Canes... lets focus on 2012 & 2013 here lol... The D was just as bad or worse with a much easier schedule.. that is the issue. I dont care about other teams or the SOS ranking, MIAMI's schedule was easier in 2013 than it was in 2012. I mean, we gave up 48 to Duke!!! lol Duke only put 45 in NC Central, but 48 on Miami... they put 38 on Troy and 35 on Navy, but 48 on Miami!!!!

How can anyone excuse that?

dj moonbat

Man, the Navy is chock full of military dudes.

Ohio_Cane

He's transferring as a JUNIOR? WTF?

Posted by: dj moonbat | January 14, 2014 at 09:57 AM
-----------------------------------------

Honestly, he probably sees that he's trending down at UM. He started all 12 games in 2012, then Flowers took over and never looked back. Bunche started 1 game last year.

I am NOT saying Bunche isn't good, but he can play both G and T and couldn't start.

raizecane

Yearby enrolled???

SinisterCane

2013 Excuse: Coaches retained due to lack of talent, we'll be better with the influx of new recruits

2014 Excuse: We're too young on defense

2015 Excuse: I lost most of my upperclassmen

Half a decade later and we'll still be rebuilding with this staff

Ohio_Cane

Man, the Navy is chock full of military dudes.

Posted by: dj moonbat | January 14, 2014 at 10:22 AM
-----------------------------------

LOL!

30CINCO

If you cannot look at SOS to come up with a determination on how hard your schedule was, what can you use?

UpNorthCane27

Why are we still talking about our Defense? about Golden? it's obvious some of you guys are never going to agree lol.

30CINCO

So I ask a question, you bring up schedule, players, defense, and Golden is the one with excuses?

UpNorthCane27

Bunche is a solid player but I never saw anything special out of the guy. To repeat what moonbat said.. why in the hell is he transferring out as a Junior? makes no sense.

Go Canes

I agree Ohio.

With the incoming talent we have on the O-line and the returning players we have, he had to see the writing on the wall.

UMike

30...

In 2012 our opponents had an overall regular season record of 84-61. In 2013 our opponents had an overall regular season record of 68-76... BUT, some how, our SOS was shown to be "harder" in 2013.

Teams we played in 2012 OVER 500 - 6
Teams we played in 2013 OVER 500 - 4

In 2013 we played..

1-11 Savannah State
2-10 South Florida
2-10 Virginia
4-8 Florida
4-8 Wake Forest

In 2012 we played..

2-10 Bethune Cookman
3-9 South Florida
4-8 Virgina

Those are the FACTS as Go Canes like to point out, so the SOS ranking is BS. All it means is we had a harder schedule in 2013 ONLY, than other teams in 2013. It does not relate to 2012 at all.

Cola Cane

UMike Duke put up 489 against A&M, they were actually a good team. Now and again even the consistent bottom dwellers will have that ONE special year, and this was Dukes. I mean their WR is a 1st rounder for sure. Our D helped them out for sure, but they were a good team, and almost beat us last yr. I think if we had DJ and Dorsett playing, we win hands down.

dj moonbat

A question that just came to me, thinking about Bunche: if a player transfers, does that bring down a program's graduation rate?

Cola Cane

typo, lol. I meant put up 48 against A&M sorry all.

30CINCO

Posted by: UMike | January 14, 2014 at 10:33 AM
-----------------------------------------------
Just like you use the teams we play against, the SOS formula uses the same thing, PLUS it add the teams those teams play. I'm sorry, your equation is not complete.

30CINCO

So CaneRock, UMike, Sinister - ACC Team defense for you:

2013 Team defense : 9 of 14 (bad, we agree)
9 wins

2006 Team defense : 1 of 12 (what we all want)
7 wins

The years in between, we were pretty much in the middle.

So what's more important, ONLY team defense, or wins?

UMike

30.. really? Miami played an easier schedule in 2013 than they did in 2012 and anyone who thinks differently is either in denial or a few cards short of a full deck.

Cola, I do agree Duke was beter this year than previously, but to give up 48 to them AND allow their RB to run for a career high is unacceptable. Also, everyone knows A&M's defense is very weak.

UMike

Who gives a shyt about 2006 lol.. that is not even what I am saying.. my point is the 2013 schedule was easier than 2012 so the overall numbers were bound to improve, that doesnt mean the defense actually improved.

Ohio_Cane

Yearby enrolled???

Posted by: raizecane | January 14, 2014 at 10:24 AM
----------------------------------------

Yes

Cola Cane

Agree UMIke Aggies D is weak, BUT their O overcame the deficit, and if we were full strength, I think we would've as well, hence it would've been a 10-2 finish and a trip to ACCCG, and possibly a better bowl, and maybe a different attitude?

30CINCO

30.. really? Miami played an easier schedule in 2013 than they did in 2012 and anyone who thinks differently is either in denial or a few cards short of a full deck.
Posted by: UMike | January 14, 2014 at 10:46 AM
-----------------------------------------------
2013 - 44th
2012 - 42nd

You are correct, it was easier in 2013. So we got more wins. Right, or does it not count because the schedule was easier?

Ohio_Cane


Final ESPN 300 rankings

Joseph Yearby: #23 overall (#4 RB)
KC McDermott: #36 overall (#4 OT)
Chad Thomas: #65 overall (#6 DE)
Brad Kaaya: #112 overall (#5 QB)
Trevor Darling: #115 overall (#7 OT)
Trent Harris: #133 overall (#14 DE)
Anthony Moten: #182 overall (#13 DT)
Kiy Hester: #196 overall (#23 S)
Reilly Gibbons: #241 overall (#15 OT)
Darrion Owens: #246 overall (#18 OL)
Darrell Langham: #259 overall (#35 WR)
Braxton Berrios: #289 overall (#43 WR)

UMike

Cola.. I do think the O could of helped, I can agree with that. But IDK if the O would of made the D that much better. The D was giving up career highs left and right to average players, the O cant be blamed for that lol

CaneRock

This staff put Washington at LT, and I'm supposed to believe they got it right with Bunche...PFFFFFFT!

The comments to this entry are closed.

My Photo
Blog powered by Typepad
Member since 06/2007