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January 04, 2014

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BEERicane

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CGNC

2! From the previous blog

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LOL! hang in there canes fans. Nothing we can do about any of it

CaneRock

ROHAN!

CaneRock

^^^^^^^^^^^ Coley?

VfB_Cane

Cinco!

CaneRock

CGNC, how many horses do you own?

laquinton

Cgnc, cut cut that out. I don't want gruden in coral gables. There's a true reason why some coaches done get another gig. Gruden is John madden

CaneRock

LQ, I agree. Now Gruden knows His ish now, but that dude kilt more QBs in TB, than WARREN SAPP!

SOUP

Seeing that I didn't make the initial CaneSpace / UM coaching staff, I'd like to apply as European talent scout to make sure that talented German guys like Bjoern Werner don't end up as Seminoles (yuck).

Posted by: VfB_Cane | January 04, 2014 at 09:49 AM

DEAL. WE NEED THE FOLLOWING:

1. Some big, tough, strong DL from Germany.
2. A kicker from Spain.
3. A MLB from Scotland.
3. A few hot cheerleaders from France.

GET ON IT!

CGNC

laquinton - LOL! That was made last go round, I just saved it. Trying to make you guys laugh LOL!!!

I wouldn't mind Gru

CGNC

Canerock, I only have 1 and he will be 27 in a couple of weeks.

SOUP

Which category are U in for Golden: 50% stay, 25% don't care or 25% gone?

Terrance Sullivan

Damn good article Soup. I fall in the 50% category, but the ending of your article I completely agree with to the tee. Go Canes!

CGNC

I am ambivalent - honestly I thought there were more than 25% though

CGNC

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2014 at 11:24 AM

So our middle linebacker would wear a kilt?

hazydavy

with all of the clouds over our heads and top recruiting classes. the fault is on the coaching as much as the under performing talent we have. tge process is flawed.
nobody has even mentioned that we are going into another season with a rookie QB. we are in for another long season.

VfB_Cane

3. A MLB from Scotland.
Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2014 at 11:24 AM

LOL - at the moment, the only things Scotch in my household come in bottles (good ones, though, if you prefer rounded over smoky).

SOUP

So our middle linebacker would wear a kilt?

Posted by: CGNC | January 04, 2014 at 11:32 AM

Yes, and thy name shall be Colin McCarthy.

NY Trooper

I am with the 50% and hope he stays and finishes what he started. I hope he is simply using this for more $ and says thanks but no thanks.

Hazydavy - I do not think we are in for a long season next year. The sky won't fall if the president and AD act appropriately.

Surfercane

Top 20 succas!

VfB_Cane

What got Coker & Shannon fired? Off the field problems (see: FIU brawl, poor discipline) and a ceiling of 9 wins.
As soon as we know that Golden can't get over the hump coaching players he recruited himself, I'll join the 25% that want him gone.

At this point, I'd rather not see this great recruiting class fall apart.

Surfercane

I'm in the 25% of either way I'm good!

CaneRock

I fall in the 100% that want D'Onofrio gone.

RARA

I guess I fit more the 25% who is ambivalent, but I can honestly say I hope he stays because I think he has what it takes to get the U back to prominence. He was done alot for the program the last 3 years. He has recruited well as we actually do have good (not great) talent (on defense poorly and underused talent). He has gotten our players bigger, faster, stronger, and better conditioned. He repaired relationships with high school coaches. He created a template for running high school camps. The program is much better now than it was 3 years ago.

While I personally don't believe he is taking the Penn St job, if he does I will be disappointed but also grateful for what he has done at the U. And because he has got the program in a good state overall, if he leaves the next coach will have a lot of good ingredients in the cupboard. If we get a good coach (and I think we will) Golden leaving will only set the program back one year. With improved QB play and a better defensive scheme and philosophy we could play for the Coastal and the ACC championship. Talent wise we are not that far off as some would like to paint.

If Golden was to leave (Not what I want) this would be the best time for the transition to take place as we are still going in an upward trajectory. The next coach can ride the momentum (and there is momentum).

j.w.

I'm in the ambivalent crowd as well.

RARA

With that said if he does stay, which I think he will, he has some work to do. First, needs to at the very least play his defense more aggressively even if the keep the 3-4 scheme. Louisville showed how an aggressive 3-4 scheme can be played (BTW they don't necessarily have the players to run it great, but it fits more their personnel). Second, needs to repair relationships with their upperclassmen defensive players that they have thrown under the bus. I think better QB play is the primary thing that will improve things in offense. I think they will get better QB play next year. Won't be great, but will be above average to good. That right there will improve the offense.

CGNC

Hazydavy - I do not think we are in for a long season next year. The sky won't fall if the president and AD act appropriately.

Posted by: NY Trooper | January 04, 2014 at 11:42 AM

Truly the elephant in the room

Clwtrdan

I'm in the 50%. Everyone knows we lost a lot of recruits the past 3 to 4 years because of the looming cloud of NCAA sanctions on our program. This definitely set Coach back from the 5 year plan. This will be the first class that could be recruited on a clean slate. It will take 3 years to rebuild the talent to a championship caliber level. Every team in the country has been taking shots at us for a long while. That is over now. Frankly, our players need continuity more than anything. Changing coaches every 3 years is not good for the program. Players want to know who their coach will be for their scholarship term and ambiguity on that front will only deter good players from coming here.

CGNC

Soup you have mail

LA3

50% Crowd..... with sidecar!

I fall in the 100% that want D'Onofrio gone.
Posted by: CaneRock

Stay with coaching staff and scheme changes!

RCCF

ESPN just announced that Golden IS meeting with PennSt Today!!

RCCF12%

canezilla

3. A few hot cheerleaders from France.

GET ON IT!

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2014 at 11:24 AM
DO GIRLS FROM FRANCE SHAVE THEIR ARMPITS???

RARA

Clwtrdan...in spite of the NCAA cloud Golden recruited very well. We have good talent. Not NC talent, but winning the Coastal and playing for (not winning) the ACC championship. That was there last year. We underachieved. QB play and injuries primarily limited us on offense. Coaching (defensive scheme and philosophy) primarily limited us on defense. Next year we will have many of the same players returning and again have win the Coastal and compete for an ACC championship talent. Coaching on defense and improved QB play on offense will primarily determine whether we reach our potential or under achieve. Talent will not be the reason for not playing for an ACC title.

canezilla

DON'T WANT AL TO GO DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN!!! WOULD LIKE TO SEE NO'D GONE AND SOMEHOW HAVE BUTCH ON THE STAFF. WHAT'S SCARY NOW IS STRONG GOT ALOT OF TALET TO GO TO LOUISVILLE IMAGINE WHAT HE COULD BRING TO TEXAS!! THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS GOING TO BE A RECRUITING WAR WITH MIAMI,FSU,UF,TEXAS

VfB_Cane

DO GIRLS FROM FRANCE SHAVE THEIR ARMPITS???
Posted by: canezilla | January 04, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Yes, but those from rural areas tend to keep their moustaches LOL

BigWindyCane1

I have watched a lot of high school football in Florida, and (its hard to believe but) I think HS football talent in Florida is actually getting better and deeper than it has ever been. The problem really is that the old U is gone forever, and the new U needs to be cultivated. It starts by what the kids see on the field and many of them don't remember Reggie Wayne or Santana Moss, and were 4 or 5 years old when the Canes won their last championship. Golden knows that, and that is why he is getting recruits. The new coach will need to do the same thing, and he Will be successful.

VfB_Cane

Did a little "By the numbers" analysis to see which coaches are instrumental in keeping this recruiting class together should Golden leave.
Here's the result (based on 247sports), by number of players they are recruiting (primary (P) or secondary contact (S)):

Barrow 13 (7 P, 6 S)
Coley 10 (6 P, 4 S)
Franklin 9 (3 P, 6 S)
Carroll 5 (1 P, 4 S)
D'Onofrio 4 (4 P, 0 S)
Kehoe 4 (3 P, 1 S)
Brown 3 (2 P, 1 S)
Scott 3 (1 P, 2 S)
Williams 3 (2 P, 1 S)

Basically: We can't afford to let Barrow, Coley, Franklin and Carroll go.

Dude on a Pale Horse

No one can honostly debate that if Golden goes the recruiting class will be in limbo, but hiring the right coach immediately could save a lot of talent. The U should already know who the next guy is. If they don't, then they weren't following their own Head Coaches 5 Ps. I'll say it again, Butch Davis gives The U family everything it wants and he is looking for a job. Some people will have to swallow their pride. Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance.

LA3

50% Crowd with sidecar....
100% want DNO gone with CaneRock.
Stay with changes to staff and scheme.

nemo2002

STARS MATTER

Our recruiting classes over the last few years weren't so highly rated, when you subtract the inelligibles and the transfers.

In recent years FSU has consistently been signing more top rated recruits.

Unless and until we can beat FSU (with some consistency) on NSD, we will continue to get beat (with some regularity) by FSU on game day; and BIG BOWL games will become a more-and-more distant memory for the (long suffering) UM fan base.

REALITY CHECK

Al Golden is POTENTIALLY a very good recruiter (although it is still too early to say for sure). Now that the NCAA cloud has been removed, hopefully, if he stays, we can be more even competitive with FSU & UF and those freakin', out-of-state, South-Florida-poaching schools like the UM wannabe, L'ville, and the usual SEC suspects . . . on NSD.

BOTTOM LINE

I don't buy the hype. I don't trust the lie(s). And "UTough" is a joke! Nevertheless, I hope Al Golden stays. The UM football program (desperately) needs stability! Given a few more years, he may in fact turn the program around. I don't want to push him out. And I hope he isn't pulled away.

Nonetheless, several years ago I predicted (on this blog) that Al Golden wouldn't remain for long as UM's head coach. (And, if I remember correctly, a number of the diehard loyalists on this site blasted me - which is understandable, I guess). The simple truth is that UM is a solid "stepping stone" but not a destination-type "trophy job" for an ambitious - and highly talented - football coach. So, if Al Golden leaves Miami (in the ACC) for PSU (in the Big Ten), or if he takes any other head coaching job with a guarantee of sold out stadiums and a "million dollar plus" increase in annual salary, WHO CAN BLAME HIM?

Not me.


dj moonbat

I guess I can live with Al staying, for the sake of recruiting, unless the U pays him more money to keep him. That would be total BS.

SOUP

While I personally don't believe he is taking the Penn St job, if he does I will be disappointed but also grateful for what he has done at the U. And because he has got the program in a good state overall, if he leaves the next coach will have a lot of good ingredients in the cupboard.

Posted by: RARA | January 04, 2014 at 12:01 PM

There IT is right there.

LA3

Football year has not been so great....
But watching Nicky Satan get pants pulled down and spanked by BIG GAME BOB followed up with Urban Cryer getting 2 L in a row makes me FEEL MUCH BETTER!

GO CANES!

SOUP

So, if Al Golden leaves Miami (in the ACC) for PSU (in the Big Ten), or if he takes any other head coaching job with a guarantee of sold out stadiums and a "million dollar plus" increase in annual salary, WHO CAN BLAME HIM?

Not me.

Posted by: nemo2002 | January 04, 2014 at 12:49 PM

There IT is once again.

SOUP

LA3...I agree, watching the Suckeyes and Roll Tide BOTH lose their bowl games did make me smile. Now, about that FSU game...

Canesteeler

I am in the 50% however I am 100% tired of the drama and 10 years of losing. Step up AG or get to stepping with your best friend.

OFNC

RARA- You want to see defensive talent? Watch Clemson from last night. Headhunters! Fierce when they smelled blood! VAcane would have been proud. Meanwhile, we had how many on defense that even drew ACC honorable mention?? P52!! Does "scheme" account for our open-field tackling? Or the fact that our db's were 5 yards away at the catch? Or that no one could set the edge on the wide stuff? Let's see where the D class of 14 is in two years.

RCCF

I want him gone ONLY because it is gonna be hard to Trust him as a fan and Im sure even harder to trust him as a Player…

RCCF12%

NativeCane

http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/index.ssf/2014/01/miamis_al_golden_a_safe_not_sc.html

Safe but not scintillating!

Dude on a Pale Horse

OFNC,

Yes, scheme on the db's 5 yards away at the catch. Coaching on no one setting edge and open field tackling.

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