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January 04, 2014

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Pbcfrcane13

Spin control starts now

mi@mic@ne

im listening to qam on satellite.

Sarasota 'cane

That really sucks!

mi@mic@ne

Golden just tweeted on canesport the University is reporting it.

Pbcfrcane13

Lol psu most have told him your hired but you can't bring NoD so golden team to his Twitter and said I'm starting with my boy

mi@mic@ne

Golden is looking forward to the recruiting process next week... he comes no d

RARA

If you are right miamicane then let's hire our new coach by Wednesday and it is all good. Hopefully it will be Butch.

Sass

fire D-No now lol

Pbcfrcane13

Yea but while it was going on saban was saying he wasn't taking to anybody.....and not going any where. Golden hasn't said a word knowing that recruits are starting to doubt.

chicagocane

Va Cane - Sorry for your loss brother

mi@mic@ne

GEEZ Furman is an idiot...golden just tweeted that he is commited to the u 1 minute ago

Sass

He's Staying!!!!! Best scenerio!!!

RARA

Sota...who cares whether Saban had better coaches to take his job or what the fan base thinks. What's that got to do with the price of tea in China? If Saban wanted to be at UT right now he would have and he took the time he wanted to to get what he wanted. The fact that there may be better coaches bodes well for us if Golden bolts. My guess is we will know Monday and if Golden stays he will have a month to mend bridges and secure this good recruiting class. If he bolts and we hire a Butch or Chud we secure this recruiting class.

mi@mic@ne

Al is gonna be on Joe Rose at 630 tomorrow morning. Ferman says that they dont fly Al to the college unless its certain there is a mutual agreement before.

30CINCO

Va Cane - Sorry for your loss

30CINCO

Posted by: SOUP | January 05, 2014 at 02:58 PM

Posted by: RARA | January 05, 2014 at 03:30 PM

+1

Pbcfrcane13

Did he say when?

mi@mic@ne

Ferman was on qam and said Al will announce that he is the new PU coach. Al and PU had been expressing interest before the bowl game.

Sarasota 'cane

The difference between Al and Saban is Saban didn't have better coaches waiting to take his job at Alabama, nor did Alabama's fan base want Saban to take the TX job.

Cola Cane

I guess the thing that hurts me most is losing this upcoming class. Depending on who we get to replace AG, it could be devastating. Oh well, tired of worrying about it, back to watching the playoffs. Gods speed to you ALL in Cane Nation.

RARA

Sorry for your loss VA Cane.

RARA

Many of you talking about Al waiting so long (two days as of today) are blowing this way outta proportion. If Golden comes back (I agree with Soup and still thinks he will) he will have more than enough time to mend the appropriate fences and talk waivering recruits off the ledge and keep (possibly enhance this class). In all honesty Penn St is the one school that we all were aware Al could bolt to. If he stays the likelihood us he will be at the U for a long time if successful. If he bolts then I thank him for getting the program back in track and move on. The fact is if he leaves this is the perfect timing for him to bolt. The program is still in ascending mode and is ripe for a coach like Butch to take the reins and build on what Golden has done.

I have no problem with Golden looking at this point. It's only been 2 days. Hell, Saban to TX went on for a week and did not end until the boosters ponied up more $$$. As long as the administration pays the $$$ for a Butch or Chud if Golden bolts we will be fine. He he bolts and the don't pony up the $$$ then blame administration, not Golden because this is ultimately a business and given the NCAA stuff and hearing Penn St's coaches name as a hot commodity in NFL circles (been hearing this for the past month), they should've been prepared for Penn St contacting Golden.

laquinton

Tomorrow feels like next year. Just wish this was over already !

SOUP

Yooper...it's all good buddy. Just don't go and get your knickers all in a wad over nothing.

SOUP

Yooper...it's all good buddy, just don't go and get your knickers all in a wad over nothing.

Life is short: Live fast, play hard.

roachcane77

Sorry for your loss VA Cane. Sounds like your Uncle was a cool dude who led a very full life. Bet he had some great stories to tell you over the years.


Here's hoping for a win-win in this AG saga.
Let's Go Canes!

SOUP

SurferCane: Samurai Lesson #2:

"Look, eye; always look eye."

If Golden stays he will have to look all of us and his players and recruits right in the eye and tell us his motives and actions. The he will regain our support, or not.

If he goes he probably will not be able to look ANY of us in the eye.

Either way: "Look eye; always look eye."

That is where the TRUTH and RESPECT can always be found.

Yoopercane

On another note, I will be watching my Packers hopefully romp San Fran! Hopefully I am not stepping on anyones toes with that one, if I did...I still love ya like a brother! Sam Shields here we come baby!

SOUP

Soup, the way I see it, Penn State is.doing us a favor

Posted by: CGNC | January 05, 2014 at 03:01 PM

Well that certainly is one way to frame it. And for all we know it could very well turn out that way?

"Don't U worry, bout a ting. Every little ting, she gonna be alright."

Yoopercane

I just got spanked! In a weird kinda way soup...I think I kinda liked it! LOL! I will try to adhere to what you have said. I will try to be patient and stay positive.

Sarasota 'cane

Soup, the way I see it, Penn State is.doing us a favor

Posted by: CGNC | January 05, 2014 at 03:01 PM

More than we know! Even if Al stays this process has started the "one and done" clock in my opinion. There may not be a better time for Al to go for himself and The U!

CGNC

Soup, the way I see it, Penn State is.doing us a favor

CGNC

Canes

SOUP

TIME OUT.

For all of you saying that Al Golden intentionally damaged UM or is wrong for interviewing at PSU, that is just crazy talk.

Every coach looks to do a few things every year that we should all do:

1. Get a raise.
2. Get a promotion.
3. Get a new job.
4. Work for his alma mater.

Golden had a chance to do all of those so it was only NATURAL that he interview for the job and accpet it IF it is offered. U cannot hate the man for doing that.

If he stays then he will have some fences to mend, which he can and will do. If it one thing he is good at it is building and/or rebuilding relationships with coaches, players, recruits and fans. He has proven that and that would not be hurt by the looking around at the PSU job. He may even look more "attractive" to recruits because another MAJOR university wanted him (SPIN).

If he goes and we get a better coach then U will forget Al Golden like your some old pair of shoes you wore 15 years ago.

The only bad scenario is IF he leaves and UM hires some other no-name, under-paid, middle of the pack coach with no UM ties or history of winning BIG and we lose a bunch of recruits. Then U can hate on Golden and the UM admininistration.

But until then remember this:

1. Be patient, stay positive.
2. The news will come when it comes, then decide.
3. We have two win-win scenarios in our favor.
4. It could turn out better than U imagine!

4-Real

Regardless of the outcome the damage has definitely been done. Uncle Luke & others are gonna have a field day afterwards.

CGNC

Yooper, lol, I more than anyone knows what comes out of a horse's behind

Yoopercane

RBLCane,
Thank you for that, now I know where I went wrong..LOL!

Yoopercane

CGNC,
Excuse me for using this term but Al is a horses A$$ right now for not addressing the issue if he is in or not. The more this gets drawn out the more I am becoming upset. Sorry Soup...hope I dont get called down to the principals office for that one.

RBLCane

How does Al interviewing for another coaching position NOT hurt this program? I would question his loyalty to this U. How can ANYONE believe in what he tells the brass and recruits or anyone else for that matter. I feel that the TRUST factor has been broken. Like a marriage, how can you be married to your partner and she knows you are still looking? Once you break that trust factor there is no turning back. Al made his bed now he can lay in it. If I was Shalala, I would cut my loses and let him and his cronies go. Hire Butch and be done with it.
Posted by: Yoopercane | January 05, 2014 at 02:30 PM


I agree it hurts the program but I'm pretty sure Al has a clause in his contract that let's him interview for his dream job at Penn State... Kind of like a prenup that let's you sleep with your dreamgirl to continue with your analogy...

Hence we can't fire him or else we'd be on the hook for some mula...

4-Real

Sorry 4 your loss Va. Talent runs thru your ENTIRE family.

laquinton

Va, sorry for your loss. Lost my uncle years ago. Great man, and the family isn't the same. Cherish every moment with your loved ones folks.

Texascane

Bobby Layne and Doak Walker played on the same high school team at Dallas Highland Park. The last years of his life Bobby lived down the street from my folks in Lubbock. My dad still angry Bobby went to Texas instead of SMU with Doak.

My condolences on your loss, VA Cane.

4-Real

Anybody got Blake' cell #? Bout 2 call his azz 2 c what's up! U don't think I will?

CGNC

sorry for your loss va cane. Lol I loved the al-pa reference, meant to tell you that the other day.

Terrance Sullivan

VA,
My condolences to you and your family.

Yoopercane

VA,
My condolences to you and your family.

CGNC

608

Sarasota 'cane

Sorry to hear that VA! Lost my uncle last summer and it wasn't the same at Christmas without him.

Yoopercane

4-real,
Ouch, touche....you got me there, it was a mirage!

VA Cane

Al Pa LOL you like that do you not CGNC? I did.

I just got news my Uncle Bill passed away. He played for GT coached by Bobby Dodd in late 40s early 50s and went on to play for the Detroit teams in the 50s with Bobby Layne etc that won their last titles. After he retired he was a pilot for American Airlines for about 30 years. He used to come see me play in sandlot HS college.....he was a fine man and I will miss talking shop about this great game with him....

4-Real

Yoopercane, subtract Bethune Cookman, fau, Savannah st & other cellular dwellers from Golden's record & c what u get?

Texascane

24-15 in his first 3 seasons @ Vandy in the sec. Now thats progress!Posted by: 4-Real | January 05, 2014 at 02:16 PM

They beat Austin Peay, UMASS, Florida (not the UF we played), Wake Forest, Tennessee, Kentucky, UAB and Houston in the bowl game.

They also beat a good, not great Georgia team.It was Vandy's first win over a Top 25 team since 2008. Not exactly a sterling record...even for Vandy.

Yoopercane

How does Al interviewing for another coaching position NOT hurt this program? I would question his loyalty to this U. How can ANYONE believe in what he tells the brass and recruits or anyone else for that matter. I feel that the TRUST factor has been broken. Like a marriage, how can you be married to your partner and she knows you are still looking? Once you break that trust factor there is no turning back. Al made his bed now he can lay in it. If I was Shalala, I would cut my loses and let him and his cronies go. Hire Butch and be done with it.

Sarasota 'cane

Al has to leave now cause he's "one and done" if he doesn't! Butch Davis started that countdown clock yesterday!

BEERicane

Is there now a consensus we are in a better position if/when golden leaves and are severely damages should he stay given how this process has been handled (or not handled at all)?

SOUP

Attention all Canespace faculty, staff and coaches: All "Deserve Victory" slogans and banners are to be hereby removed and replaced with the throwback banner "12% or Bust!" That is all.

Posted by: The Dude | January 05, 2014 at 12:48 PM

WELL DONE! I have to admit for a first year AD in his first week on the JOB U are doing a great job. Keep up the good work!

SOUP

As it stands for me.

1. Butch Davis
2. Mark Richt
3. Greg Schiano
4. Rob Chudzinski
5. James Franklin

Posted by: The Dude | January 05, 2014 at 12:19 PM

That is why U are the AD and 4-Real is not. LOL

U might consider adding this guy to the list as an outside candidate IF Golden leaves (I still believe he is NOT):

http://www.gobulldogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/deruyter_tim00.html

Yoopercane

Golden has a 22-15 record in his first three seasons, what does that say?

Sarasota 'cane

I agree with the wine/beer budget metaphor but this situation with Butch is unique. Similar to George O'Leary "falling" to UCF.

4-Real

James Franklin 1st 3 seasons @ Vandy

2011- 6-7
2012- 9-4
2013- 9-4

24-15 in his first 3 seasons @ Vandy in the sec. Now thats progress!

SOUP

When it's all said and done, PSU will have its new coach and we will be stuck with Al and several fewer recruits.

Posted by: BEERicane | January 05, 2014 at 11:59 AM

WORST CASE SCENARIO.

orange 'n green in the vein

Monty, there are no moral victories.

Game plan by the staff gave them a chance to win but they only out played the hosts for about 17 of 40 minutes, all in the second half which wasn't going to be enough to overcome the 'welcome to your new league, let's show you what it's like to be treated like Duke and UNC here' officiating that piled calls up against them down the stretch.

Tonye earned himself more burn at UNC in a few days with his play Saturday I thought, he needs to shoot only one handed free throws every practice because his elbow is jutting out on his shooting form and he isn't flicking his wrist for enough backspin to compensate to shoot a high percentage from the line and will start absorbing fouls on the offensive end of the court with his activity level and length, so he needs to make the opposition pay for forcing him to earn his points one at a time.

I still say, and I like the guy because he's remade his body in the off season and is The Pimp's first charge, Rion Brown is better as a poor man's impersonation of Jet Terry off the bench for UM, yes I know he's one of the best average in all column players on the team, but UM needs someone to pace the backup wave and Rion struggles when he's accounted for in the opposition's game plan specifically because he's best as just a spot shooter or a one dribble mid range pull up off the shot fake guy. He can't get to the rim and finish consistently enough to be short shot clock beater for the team.

Yoopercane

So it has been said, Miami has a taste for wine on a beer budget. Instead of hiring a good quality coach they were just fine with spending less and getting less. Like the ol saying goes you get what you paid for. Now the U is stuck in a coaching dilemma all because the U dont want to spend the dough? You keep throwing parts on an ol POS to keep it going when you could wisely invest in a new car and not have to worry about it. Its like spraying perfume on a pig, its still a pig but a really good smelling pig.

SOUP

Cristobal is the least qualified candidate with Miami ties.

Posted by: The Dude | January 05, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Agree but I am afraid he is the most affordable and controllable by UM admin whihc prolly makes him the favorite.

CaneRock

cs is reporting that the Ville is interested in Butch...

Posted by: mi@mic@ne | January 05, 2014 at 02:07 PM

Razor blade (Strong)...Alcohol (Davis).

SOUP

'Sota, I'll raise your concerns to the President. I'd like to see a deal worked out.

Posted by: The Dude | January 05, 2014 at 11:29 AM

AD...I would recommend the to hiring of the Fran and Jean team as Co-Trainers for the UM team. Jean's experience as 28 years as a nurse qualifies her for the Head Trainer role and Fran's own numerous medical procedures alone qualifies him to counsel and train/rehab young men at UM who have had injuries themselves. That man has prolly had more anesthesia than Michael Jackson.

Sarasota has shown his L/T committment to the blog, I mean program, and could serve are HS Scouting Director, Walk-on coordinator and run our Summer Football camps? I like that call, but your final decision as AD?

mi@mic@ne

cs is reporting that the Ville is interested in Butch...

SOUP

On my way to church, going to go pray that the powers that be won't do something stupid like not hire Butch!

Posted by: Willie Will in Missouri | January 05, 2014 at 12:39 PM

Been there, done that.

Pbcfrcane13

Sota totally agree with you I just don't see it.because of the unc stuff....even though he's been cleared.imo

SOUP

Soup, cue up the Al Golden we hardly knew ye bluff sir.

Posted by: laquinton | January 05, 2014 at 10:11 AM

In my back pocket.

Cola Cane

Oh ok, thanks Pbcfrcane13.

Pbcfrcane13

Weekly sorry

Sarasota 'cane

Why wouldn't Donna want Butch? She wasn't even here when he left in 2000 plus he's already been credited with righting the program after Dennis ran it into the ground. He ran a cleaner program at UM than anyone else I can think of, plus he's a disciplinarian. The bad blood was between Paul Dee and Tad Foote who are gone.
On top of that Butch put up with a lot of crap from us fans before he finally turned the program around. If he can forgive us I can certainly forgive him.

Pbcfrcane13

Cola is still set for 1230 630 is his annually radio show with Joe rose

Cola Cane

Just learned his usual Monday press conference for 12:30pm is now scheduled for 6:30am, so my guess is he's bolting.

Pbcfrcane13

Sota my point in butch was I don't think the admin well go for him die to the pay and the fact that going was linked with the ncaa stuff. I know he's been cleared but the edu Donna seems to work she doesn't even want a hint of that stuff around her program.

TJL

PS-FIRE AL GOLDEN NOW

fran

Thanks CGNC the same back to you!
Fran

Sarasota 'cane

Posted by: Pbcfrcane13 | January 05, 2014 at 12:55 PM

I would agree that we would be dreaming to get a guy like Butch back at UM until yesterday when he personally told Susan Miller that he would be honored to be considered for a job he regrets leaving in 2000. His words.
And we're already paying Al 2.5 million which isn't chump change. Butch would likely command around 2.5 to 3 million so it won't be a financial situation.

TJL

I want a Miami guy
Chud & Shiano are NFL guys now-I wouldn't trust them to stay
Mario made a move to further his career to Coach under Satan-I wouldn't trust him either-He is young enough to have NFL aspirations.
Butch is older which would work to our advantage-he has seen it all-been in the NFL and maybe will want to finish his coaching career at the U. How many NFL head coaches are 60+?
Also Butch's teams play with an edge we haven't seen here in years
Keep the O staff intact-bring in Dorsey for QB,a - get rid of all the D staff except Barrow

Canesteeler

Canes nation sit back and observe the cluster fukk of how college coaches operate! We are fools to criticize the decisions 17-18 year old kids make when the men who are the so-called leaders of these kids are nothing but ego filled money whores. Those of you who want to play football at the U, come on. Every recruit and their parents should be selfish as hell in making their choices because the men they will go and play for are only loyal to their bank accounts. It is a business for the players just as much as the coaches.

beedharphong

Alverage Grifter...
He's praying they don't take Franklin or Munchak.

We're praying too.

Let us all support Big Al in his time of need.

roachcane77

I am thinking old Ray Lewis style...
half jersey with six pack showing!
Maybe Miami Vice Jacket and no shirt!
Posted by: LA3 | January 05, 2014 at 12:45 PM

BEST POST OF THE NEW YEAR RIGHT THERE!

Texascane

A few thoughts that ran through my head this morning, just my opinion.


Franklin is the designated Rooney Rule interview for this year (all kinds of interviews-doesn't get hired anywhere). See: Charlie Strong for the last four years.

PSU got north of 6 million from the Texans for the O'Brien buyout. They can afford anyone.

Louisville may be a better job opening than Miami if Al leaves.

Chud stays in the NFL as an assistant.

Donna ain't going anywhere near Butch.

Al is too good a press guy to let all this commotion happen without an offer from PSU and close to a deal.

CaneRock

Thinking outside the Canes Family Tree....

Craig Philip Bohl----104–32
13-1 playoffs

3 NCAA Division I National (2011–2013)
1 Great West (2006)
3 MVFC (2011–2013)
Awards
3x MVFC Coach of the Year (2011–2013)
2x Eddie Robinson Award (2012– 2013)

Posted by: LA3 | January 05, 2014 at 01:13 PM

Just looked Him up, North Dakota State, huh?

Aren't they the ones, that recruited the "less" talented players from Miami, and make em' players?

Aren't they the ones, that beat KSU?

Interesting.


AfriCane

Nigerian I know Butch's resume but again I would prefer someone younger. If we end up with Butch, I'll back him as before.

Posted by: Cola Cane | January 05, 2014 at 01:05 PM

someone younger got us in this mess!

AfriCane


The Dude, since you the AD now, please remove all "Deserve Victory" slogan signs in the building and replace em with "If You Looking We Looking"! Pronto!!!!

Posted by: Willie Will in Missouri | January 05, 2014 at 12:42 PM

LOL! replace it with 'if u r from penn state, u don't deserve isht'

TLuv

Ok but who are you going to get for 3 million a year at max? Not prying a hc from a big time school for that.

Posted by: Pbcfrcane13 | January 05, 2014 at 01:12 PM

Very true. But I would think Butch, Chud, Smart, and maybe Franklin would be more than fine with a 3 mil/year salary. Franklin is making that now but there's no way he wins big in the SEC at Vandy so I could see him possibly making that move. I agree that names like Richt are a pipe dream.

CaneRock

"They leave and we go 11-1 the next year?"

They came, and we won one LESS game than the previous regime.

Pbcfrcane13

4-real smartest thing said today

4-Real

LA3, there's nothing anyone can show u coaching @ FIU! By no means is Mario my top choice, or choice period, just saying unless Blake decides to be the hero that resurrects UM don't get your hopes up.

4-Real

When is the administration gonna realize that they're losing wayyy more money taking the cheap route than they would if they just shell out the money to get a REAL staff 2 begin with? Just look at the money UM had to pay Coker & Shannon after they were fired. Combine Coker & Shannon's money with Golden's and BAMMM!!! U have a REEL Corch!!

CGNC

Alright, time for Penguins hockey

GO CANES

LA3

4-REAL....I would prefer ANYONE to Mario.
JUST TO BE CLEAR....he not shown me a damn thing except how to leave the U!

La3, where was Mario the head coach at? Fiu. True powerhouse. Are saying Miami's O-line was better than Bama's? Lol

Posted by: 4-Real | January 05, 2014 at 01:09 PM

LA3

Thinking outside the Canes Family Tree....

Craig Philip Bohl----104–32
13-1 playoffs

3 NCAA Division I National (2011–2013)
1 Great West (2006)
3 MVFC (2011–2013)
Awards
3x MVFC Coach of the Year (2011–2013)
2x Eddie Robinson Award (2012– 2013)


CGNC

Attention all Canespace faculty, staff and coaches: All "Deserve Victory" slogans and banners are to be hereby removed and replaced with the throwback banner "12% or Bust!" That is all.

Posted by: The Dude | January 05, 2014 at 12:48 PM

As the self-appointed cheerleader:

Poms Raised!!

Pbcfrcane13

Ok but who are you going to get for 3 million a year at max? Not prying a hc from a big time school for that.

4-Real

Miami's O-line sure taught Louisville a lesson they won't soon 4-get!! Lol

AfriCane


Al Golden committed suicide this weekend.


Posted by: Canesjunkie | January 05, 2014 at 01:09 PM

THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.

TLuv

PB I gree the MC would be cheaper but you have to think UM has a good buyout in Al's contract that would hopefully give them more flexibility with money.

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