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January 06, 2014

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RCCF

"kick to the face" slapping is normal a kick to the face is what makes it over the top..

Go Canes

I agree with everything you are saying.

But you have to admit the difference in athletes compared to what we line up is pretty staggering.

There wasn't a Highsmith, Poarter, Armbrister, Green or Rogers anywhere in that starting 11.

I'm not saying one way is better than the other or even that our coach is any good.

All I'm saying is great athletes can make just about any scheme look really good.

J'Ville Cane

Posted by: CaneRock | January 07, 2014 at 03:24 PM

This is what tickles me with the Golden fans, you never hear a compelling argument as to why Golden is a good coach.

Only,
the NCAA, Randy Shannon, some other program does this, no depth, no talent as excuses and deflection mechanisms.

What about the Golden. Miami was the defiant bunch that made the blue print for everyone else to follow. Now we have to fall in line and copy? Maybe this is the new U and the new U fans. Sheesh

orange 'n green in the vein

"Posted by: NigerianCane | January 07, 2014 at 03:08 PM"

Very well done. I don't know what's come over you since last week but you're now on my 'must read closely every word' list of bloggers. I guess it's since you found that formerly AWOL 'R' maybe? Can't spell extRemist without an 'R' after all!

"Posted by: J'Ville Cane | January 07, 2014 at 03:17 PM"

I can cosign every key you pressed about Perryman in this post from a purely football standpoint, BUT, he doesn't have his degree in hand and because of that one fact, I say he needs to return to rectify that. If he had a 1st round projection, then I'd say it's up to him and if he did go, invest that money wisely to live off the returns once the career is over if he didn't get the paper in hand at a later date, but he was never getting that projection so it's a waste of time IMO. Say you're coming back and walk that stage in the cap and gown. He did look a step slower to me last season and he was better at ILB I thought than he's been at OLB.

86Cane


All I'm saying is great athletes can make just about any scheme look really good.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 07, 2014 at 03:39 PM

On this we agree 100%.

We definitely need MORE talent.

We MAY also need a different scheme.

J'Ville Cane

"He's been saying UM for a long time. He loves UM. But for Coach Golden to go interview for another job was unsettling.
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That's what I'm saying.

"A lot of things can change when a coach leaves. Now that Golden is back he wants to find out why Golden [interviewed] and if he really is planning to be there for the long haul."

--------------------------------------------Maybe, just maybe he can find out what us Cane fans want to know. One thing for sure the coach will walk away satisfied because if there is one thing Al can do it's run game.

Ohio_Cane

Since Valentine will meet face to face with Golden, I am 98% sure he ends up back in this class.

Which is huge, because he's our most important recruit.

RCCF

Chad Thomas is MostImportant Recruit and Nigel Bethel... Where do U guys get this stuff why is Valentine Our Top Priority?

Facts Please..Not Opinions

RCCF12%

Ohio_Cane

RCCF,

Valentine is the best DT we have coming in. It's also the position of our biggest weakness. First part opinion, second part fact.

All due respect to Chad Thomas (who is my PERSONAL favorite recruit this year along with KC), we're not lacking on explosive DE's. We're severely lacking a big bodied, filthy, pizzed off creature up front.

RCCF

Nigel is My Fav... that kid is gonna be the MAN..

RCCF12%

AfriCane

it tells you that college football players do everything in college but get an education: 'we was?' or is it that moniker about FSU education; 'its so easy, even a caveman can do it.'

CaneRock

No disrespect to Thomas or Valentine, but Brad Kaaya is our most important recruit...IJS.

Ohio_Cane

Nigel is My Fav... that kid is gonna be the MAN..

RCCF12%

Posted by: RCCF | January 07, 2014 at 04:08 PM
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Really like him, but we're not really hurting in the CB department. I'll be more than excited if he sticks, but he's not the team's biggest need right now.

UpNorthCane27

The Hell with...

FSWHOO
TExsux
Floriduhh
Suckeyes

and the rest of the NCAA.... ITS ALL ABOUT THE U.

Valentine get yo teddy bear behind back in this class so I can see you McCord, AQM, and Chad kill some QBS, with No'ds permission of course lol.

Ohio_Cane

Wells Dusenbury ‏@DuseReport1063 1m

Based on that comment, Red McCombs is the epitome of the delusional Texas booster. Thought the school should have hired Jon Gruden.

orange 'n green in the vein

RCCF, DT is the 2nd most important position on the team, hardest to recruit, and Alverage Slogan is currently in the midst of a "late Coker era attempting to get QB's to enroll" shutout streak of difference makers at the position.

Although, that's a really a list of an opinion, an opinion that can be factually justified with demographics, and a fact, so your mileage may vary with it.

Go Canes

We need quality DTs more than any other position by far. Bethel is a good player but there are 20 players out there like him for every one Valentine or Thomas.

30CINCO

We need quality DTs more than any other position by far. Bethel is a good player but there are 20 players out there like him for every one Valentine or Thomas.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 07, 2014 at 04:15 PM
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IMO, QB

Da U N Houston

How do people come to the conclusion that we "whiffed" or Let a recuit "get away"? What more can you do than to recruit a kid within the guidelines? Sorry don't get it. I got recruited out of school and I chose the best school for me. The kids will go where they want to go, whether its b/c of a coach, parents, distance from home, family plays there, playing time, etc. If a kid decides to go somewhere else regardless if they are here in the 305, 954, 786 etc, its not AlPa fault. I don't think we "whiffed" the kid just didn't want to come here.......lets focus on who does and who signs on the dotted line!

30CINCO

Posted by: Da U N Houston | January 07, 2014 at 04:17 PM
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+1

CaneRock

I like Valentines size, but He has a ways to go. Watching Him in State, seemed like all He did was swim moves. Hopefully Sapp can get to Him before Franklin or D'Onofrixcuses.

WWIN

FSU played a 3-4 all night last night.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 07, 2014 at 03:20 PM

They don't have the size to run a effective 3-4, so that can't be true! Hell even Jermaine Grace is bigger than their starters

WWIN

Nemo,

Since you weren't a candidate for that other blog, why did they interview you??? Lol

Stanadrd Shriver

what a difference having a QB who can manage a game, provide confidence, leadership with a birning desire to win can make to a football team. I saw nothing creative or overly mind blowing about FSUs offense or Jimbos play calling.....I saw QB with football intelligence and a team playing their hearts out....making plays when it mattered.

A QB who gives a rats ass about winning, will male a huge difference at Miami.

Ohio_Cane

We have Ryan Williams and Kevin Olsen already in school, both know the playbook well by now and can be really good QB's. I fail to see how any freshman QB, neither of which will be an EE, can come in and make us better next year.

Valentine at DT does exactly that. That's why I'm saying he's most important.

WWIN

Lol WW, Is that racedar?

Posted by: The Dude | January 07, 2014 at 02:27 PM

Yeah that's exactly what it is! I also have a gaydar gun

Stanadrd Shriver

I like Valentines size, but He has a ways to go. Watching Him in State, seemed like all He did was swim moves. Hopefully Sapp can get to Him before Franklin or D'Onofrixcuses.

Posted by: CaneRock | January 07, 2014 at 04:21 PM

so Valentine was all world when he decommitted, now he aint all that since he may come back......right on cue the depressives from the recruiting world provide us with predictable reactions

Stanadrd Shriver

The Xanax is on me my ever depressive Cane brethren.

TLuv

DTs are def our highest need. Keeping Valentine would solidify an awesome DT class.

I like what Heurtelou's coach had to say about him...

"He'll be more of a nose, but we used him as a 3 technique," Madowski said. "What he does isn't flashy, but what he does in terms of helping the defense be successful is remarkable. He can take two offensive linemen and stack them up in the backfield. He knows how to strike an opponent, drive them back. Those linebackers are going to run a lot more free behind him. He has a chance to make an impact on a defense very, very quickly."

"And he was getting double and triple teamed all year long," Madowski said. "He's really good, can play. He has a great first step, is powerful, comes off the ball well. He can do a lot of things as a defensive lineman."

We haven't had that in what seems like forever.

Stanadrd Shriver

Since Valentine will meet face to face with Golden, I am 98% sure he ends up back in this class.

Which is huge, because he's our most important recruit.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 07, 2014 at 03:59 PM

I was under the impression from the chronically depressed that Goldens coming or going matter little to the fate of this recruiting class?

Lucy, wha happen?

RCCF

That Brings About a GREAT Question Who is Our Teams Emotional Leader...Who Fires Our Kids Up I See it Isn't Alfred.. So Who?


Who Do They March For??


RCCF

CaneRock

so Valentine was all world when he decommitted, now he aint all that since he may come back......right on cue the depressives from the recruiting world provide us with predictable reactions

Posted by: Stanadrd Shriver | January 07, 2014 at 04:28 PM

So dumass, are you saying He's fully equipped to be a CFB player...

RCCF

Thnx for the info on DT too fellas... Not that I don't like Valentine or any other recruit I jus wanted to knw why U guys value him so much Hertelou has the best name..lol

RCCF

TLuv

Who Do They March For??

This is a team sport. You march for every player on the locker room that's been busting their a$$ all off-season.

Ohio_Cane

I was under the impression from the chronically depressed that Goldens coming or going matter little to the fate of this recruiting class?

Lucy, wha happen?

Posted by: Stanadrd Shriver | January 07, 2014 at 04:32 PM
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I'm on record as saying if Golden leaves, we lose 4-7 recruits. We lost one just because Golden MIGHT have left.

Now he needs to reel him back in.

30CINCO

Who Do They March For??

Posted by: RCCF | January 07, 2014 at 04:33 PM
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The U

RCCF

yea yea I knw tht TLuv that is the Alfred answer... Everytime has a go to guy someone that the TEAM leans on because that guy is the GUY.. who is our GUY is DP52 is it Chick...who tells them "Im Hurt Dawg"...where is Joaquin when U need him seems like EdReed would run thru a wall for that dude..He didn't say my coaches said Dominate he Clearly said Joaquin said DOMINATE and we Ain't DOMINATING so again no Alfred Answers..lol Who is that guy?

RCCF

Stanadrd Shriver

golden is right when he talks about consistency. Recruiting is the single biggest priority now for the next 2 or 3 seasons. if we habe to keep noD to reel in top recruiting classes...so be it. Depth, depth, depth......and more quality depth.

RCCF

Every Team* (has a go to guy)...

RCCF

CaneRock

Valentine isn't going anywhere, He's the Brandon Washington of this class.

TLuv

Lol RCCF that's not an Alfred answer. I truly believe that. I played college basketball and we never needed "that guy" just like I don't think it's a coach's job to get a player hyped up before the game. But I see what you're saying as far as teams having that hype guy. I think each year is a new team so I guess we'll see what vocal leaders come forward in the spring.

4-Real

Nearly all our committs were asked if Golden's departure would effect their commitment and they ALL answered NO!! They ALL said they were committed 2 the U, not the coach! When K.C. McDermott was asked if Golden leaving would have an effect on any of the committs KC responded, " Nah, it wouldn't have effected anybody".

RCCF

LOVE to see kids STAND By That U...

LOVE IT

Feeling Really 12%ish...kinda is Alfred still here? LoL I Digress Feeling 12%ish

RCCF

Ohio_Cane

4-Real, you're misinformed. A good bit said that, but not ALL of them.

Bethel, Valentine, Mike Smith, Rosier, Thomas, Moten, and Hester were all worried he was leaving and said it could've affected their commitment.

CaneRock

All the great UM teams had "vocal leaders", just because you "truly believe that", doesn't make it NOT SO!

Michael Irvin...Ed Reed...Ray Lewis...Warren Sapp...Alonzo Highsmith...Melvin Bratton...Jerome Brown <<<<< "Hype guys"? LMAO!

CaneRock

"Bethel, Valentine, Mike Smith, Rosier, Thomas, Moten, and Hester were all worried he was leaving and said it could've affected their commitment."

Rosier? We're His only D-1 offer, where was He gonna go...

And IMO, Hamilton is more responsible for Moten coming here, than Golden.

But if you have social media forensics, then you stand corrected.

Go Canes

They don't have the size to run a effective 3-4, so that can't be true! Hell even Jermaine Grace is bigger than their starters

Posted by: Willie Will in Missouri | January 07, 2014 at 04:24 PM
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Don't know what scale youre looking at cause no one in this 3-4 is smaller than Grace.

90 Eddie Goldman | 6-4, 313, SO

15 Mario Edwards Jr. | 6-4, 285, SO

99 N. Lawrence-Stample | 6-1, 314, RS SO

8 Timmy Jernigan | 6-2, 294, JR

22 Telvin Smith | 6-3, 218, SR

6 Dan Hicks | 6-4, 260, RS SR

7 Christian Jones | 6-4, 235, SR

TJL

Old Fart has lost it-send him and Dr Lou on their way:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/brent-musberger-introduces-himself-kirk-herbstreit-kick-off-012603993--ncaaf.html;_ylt=A0oG7jILfsxS2AYAVzBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0MDNkZ2V1BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1ZJUDMyM18x

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Pbcfrcane13

Fsu plays a 3-4 just like bama Pruitt came from bama and learned under saban who runs a 3-4

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