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February 01, 2014

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UMike

Glad to see the coaches helped Wyche come to his senses

Ohio_Cane


Jackon was suppose to have and in home visit with Golden today, instead he is in Gainsville. Take him off the list boys.

Posted by: UMike | February 01, 2014 at 03:20 PM
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Oh no. No no no. He's not off the list until he cancels his in home with Golden.

Lurker

Look it was on a couple of sites yesterday. What do you want me to say. If people whose job it is are surprised that's on them. But it was leaked out yesterday that he reconfirmed with the gators and confirmed it today by his actions. Just because some boob at the Herald is surprised doesn't mean it's not true. That's how it goes sometimes. It's recruiting, stuff like this happens all the time.

dj moonbat

In some cases this is all on the level, and the best interests of the PSA, and his family are protected. In many cases though the street agent gets paid every step of the way by individuals associated with the schools the PSA and the agent have interest in.

Posted by: SOUP | February 01, 2014 at 02:03 PM


This, it seems to me, is the problem. The core business model -- you pay me, I assist you in selling your institution to a talented person whom you would like to recruit -- is not only legal, but not even ethically troubling (to most capitalism adherents). Corporate headhunters do it every day.

The problem is that there appear to be countless, unregulated variations on the core business model, and that schools are basically using street agents to perform actions (like, say, direct payments to players) that the university could never get away with itself.

But it's like many other business practices: -- the problem is the corruption, not the existence of "street agents" per se.

UMike

Ohio.. You can remain mr optimist, but Jackson is a turd lol

Lurker

Getting Wyche back is bigger news. Position of need.

Montreal-Cane


Oh no. No no no. He's not off the list until he cancels his in home with Golden.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 01, 2014 at 03:34 PM

Which i predict will be tomorrow and i also expect Al to take one last shot at TV.

SOUP

Huge!!!!!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | February 01, 2014 at 03:24 PM

U make it too easy!

Ohio_Cane

There is 2 ways to look at JC's trip to UF. I'll look at the positive one, and clearly, we all know UMike will look at the negative one. Feel free to take him off your list. He's staying ON mine. For now.

Ohio_Cane

3.5 days till guys sign. Plenty of in-homes left to use on big time kids. A la Tracy Howard

VA Cane

Wyche is from VA originally. I remember him. I am pleased he decided to stick with it. He is a good player....we need to keep getting good kids who love UM, use their talent, CONTINUE to work on the fundamentals and make us a better TEAM. Very nice article.

Couple things....as the article shows you can really not put a lot in star system. I think a lot of the people who do it overlook basic skills at times....and I do not know how many of them ever saw the field. It is hard to rate kids...some guys who are no stars make it to the NFL....other 5 stars are flops. I am not a big star guy, you know that....but I guess there has to be a rating system....I just do not buy it since I see a lot of kids and probably know their game better than the rankers....at least for Virginia....not elsewhere

Got a good VA Country Azz Cane story for you. I had a street guy coming around when I was helping at a HS here in Richmond...several of my guys were Jrs and Srs. This guy was hawking and hassling them too much for me. He was prying, trying to get in with their families....and I did not like it. I played a number on the guy and told him I would help him guide a certain OT who will be drafted this spring to a SEC school. I met him after practice at a little restaurant......and when he got in we made some small talk.....and I pulled a .45 and put it on his forehead.....WOW what a redneck hillbilly.....then my buddy who is a FBI guy from back home who is here now pulled up and flashed his piece and badge....the guy was crapping his pants.....we told him we never wanted to see his face around this area ever....my boy went to ACC school.....and we never saw the guy again. Now I know that sounds brutal and dangerous....it was a hatchet job and I would do it again...but I protect my kids from these molesters. I have enough time with my kids and stay with them....so when it comes time to pick and choose....I along with their parents do a lot of the process. I let my kids make their decision....but a good decision for them and family....not for some criminal. I have met some bit timers...even UM....Richard Gordon played for me.....and overall I am very pleased my kids have done well and that our bond is strong enough that player and parents want me assistance. I hate what a lot of this has become....I feel its at times too much for the kids....and I have a lot of single moms who are raising my kids.....I feel the obligation to be involved as so many of my boys look to me as a mentor and father figure.

UMike

Ohio... What is so negative about the obvious? The truth is not negative... You can keep gassing people up like you do about every recruit, but I know enough to not go along lol... Jackson=Turd.

dj moonbat

Ohio... What is so negative about the obvious? The truth is not negative... You can keep gassing people up like you do about every recruit, but I know enough to not go along lol... Jackson=Turd.

Posted by: UMike | February 01, 2014 at 03:55 PM


Probably. There weren't many people who thought Stacy Coley would flip, tho.

Ohio_Cane


Ohio... What is so negative about the obvious? The truth is not negative... You can keep gassing people up like you do about every recruit, but I know enough to not go along lol... Jackson=Turd.

Posted by: UMike | February 01, 2014 at 03:55 PM
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Oh, I'm gassin ppl up now because I won't remove a recruit from the board of possible commits because he's visiting one of his top schools on the last weekend before NSD?

Well, that's good then. That means we can pencil in Treon Harris over FSU, Auburn, etc. Also, Gaillard took a late, unexpected trip to Coral Gables, so he's a Cane. Oh, there's rumors FSU is pushing Lorenzo Featherston out of their class and he's on campus, so he's clearly picking UM on Wednesday.

"Gassin ppl up"... Lol GTFOH

UMike

Coley never flipped.. Lots of people had him going to UM at the end... Myself included. I am feeling better about Treon Harris though

VA Cane

I can tell you there are people who come to VA and my area....they know I have coached some good ones....on my teams, against them but have developed a relationship with them(I love a good player regardless and have some great friendships with kids on other teams and their coaches), and on all star teams. I have been approached more than once with visions of sugarplums dancing in these fools heads...they think $ work.....hell I am trying to keep my home, I could use some $.....but I am a purist as a coach. I want to help my kids do the right thing, but I never say choose X school. We usually get the list down, make a list of the positives and negatives regarding location, travel time, how the family feels, academics, reputation.....then I let it go. I advise my charge pick what is best for what you want to do and where you want to be in life. I have never influenced or said go here. As I am not really qualified, I have never said to a kid choose UM or go to UM. I am biased that way....RG chose UM on his own; he did well.

VA Cane

I have to give AG lots of credit....I think he is honest in trying to recruit kids, and he does not bash other schools. I really think he does a nice job as does the staff.....now lets just coach as aggressive as we recruit guys....JMO

Lurker

Why would someone go to the trouble of making a five hour drive on a Saturday to Gainesville if it wasn't a serious trip? If you were already convinced in your mind you were coming to Miami, why do that and do it all dressed up in gator gear. Mike isn't being negative, that's just realistic. Maybe Golden can talk him out if it, but right now it's about 90% just based on his actions yesterday and today.

Ohio_Cane

VA, if I had a son, I would want him coached by U. IJS

Not because of your knowledge alone, but because you're clearly a straight up guy who cares about his players no matter what. Reminds me of myself and the girls I coach in soccer.

UMike

Ohio... Do me a favor and dont go with the fake tough guy "gtfoh" comment....yes you gas people up.. You think every recruit is coming and even the most far fetched recruits you will say "we have a shot". Just look at your track record lol.. Keep doing ur thing though, im sure theres a few people left on the blog that will still believe u lol

Ohio_Cane

Lurker, I'm not sitting here arguing there isn't a chance JC goes to UF. Not even a little. From what I've heard, he's legitimately torn on which place to go. I'm saying just because he took a visit to a school in his top 2 and is already committed to doesn't mean UM should "take him off the board" because "he's gone".

UMike

Ohio.. When did I say "UM" should take him of the board? Im saying WE should take him off our lists

Ohio_Cane

Fake tough guy? Lol sure. Not acting tough at all.

Feel free to look at my predictions and see how I "think everyone is coming". Think I picked 5 out of 13 guys. Nice try tho.

Ohio_Cane

Aren't they one in the same? UM's targets and our predictions list? Remind me how they're different.

SOUP

UMike trying to make up for CaneRock being gone? LOL

VA Cane

Thanks OC I think we feel the same way. I want the very best for my kids....I love them all. I try to guide them in the game....but advise and guide them in life. I have strong continuing relationships with my kids way beyond when thy play for me HS, college....and I never want anything from them....just to excel in life as much as possible. Jason Snelling played a year for me....and I know his family...if I wanted tickets to games I could get them.....but that's not my thing. I am proud to have coached him and see him doing well.

Ohio_Cane

Feel free to keep attacking my predictions tho. It's all good. But please don't try to act like your a genius at this. U go with the majority, I go with my gut and what I read.

Track record tho? I had one bad year. Let it go. If I do the same this year, I promise I'll stop.

UMike

No, my prediction list would only include players we have a legit chance on. No Scarbough, Dupre, Bryant and now Jackson. So are you saying you didnt have Collins, Kirkland, R Robinson, M Thomas, Bryant, Sony, Cooketc all coming to Miami? You even listed all the reasons Cook was coming haha.. You said we had a chance with Fourentte which us laughable lol

UMike

I go with the majority? Haha good one.. How much shyt did I get when I said Sony was going to UGA? Plenty of people on here didnt think that...

SOUP I not being negative at all, im just not some homer whos "gut" tells him we get every player lol

UMike

I still think we have a great class even if we dont add another player... Especially if Wyche gets in later and sticks it out.

Lurker

Ohio, it was not a planned trip. While it was reported yesterday he had reconfirmed to the turds, the trip to UF caught everyone by surprise, it wasn't planned. Yesterday plus today adds up to him most likely going to UF. Like I said before, why drive five hours to Gainesville, to tell them go €€€€ yourselves? It's just common sense. Also I think Mikes messing with you, I don't believe you picked Fournette, nobody's that delusional.

Ohio_Cane

U didn't have Sony going to UGA until there was an article about UGA being #1. That's majority.

Yes, I listed a bunch of reasons why Cook would choose UM. What's your point? U telling me those reasons weren't real and I made them up?

Fournette? I said we had a chance because he was reportedly going to visit UM. Once he didn't, there was no chance. Again, what's your point?

Scarbrough, Dupre and Bryant were all on that list for months. They wouldn't be on the final one. Again, nice try at attacking me.

Go Canes

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UMike

Ohio... No one is "attacking" you lol... If I always went with the "majority" then everyone would always say Im being negative when I make that pick lol.. So now I choose Sony after reading am article? So now you know what I read and when I read it? U just keep doing u thing bro... Good work

UMike

Lurker, no he didnt pick Fournette... But when there was talk he might visit I said there was no way we get him and if course Ohio came back with us "having a good shot" lol... Some people dont see reality lol

Ohio_Cane

Never said we had a good shot. I said we have a chance. Get it right if you're going to try and quote me. Go back in the history if U care enough and find the post.

UMike

Ohio.. Saying we have a good shot or chance etc is still not being realistic. There was no way in hell that kid was coming here lol

Ohio_Cane

Anyone who visits and has an offer has a chance to commit to UM. Even if the majority call it a "free trip"

Ohio_Cane

I remember U saying there was no chance TH3 was coming either until it was reported that Golden's in-home might have swayed him.

Go Canes

Don't know what's really going on here but I do notice again that anyone with positive thoughts, hunches or outlook about something here is once again tagged a homer by UMIke.

Go Canes

@Manny_Navarro: Ice Harris told me #Canes coach Michael Barrow was usually first one at his door each morning colleges were allowed to visit high schools

UMike

I NEVER said there was no chance Howard would come... Get ur stuff right big homie. Why dont you just ask your "insider" who were gonna get haha... Im done with this convo...

Ohio_Cane

Btw, Sony committed to UGA like 6-8 months ago. Please don't act like U called that one before the article came out that he was favoring them. Even UGA insiders didn't know he was spurning UM.

UMike

Go Canes.. And I am tagged a negative nancy for being realistic... Such is life in canespace land lol... Btw ive only called 2 maybe 3 people homers.. So get it right lol

UMike

Sorry Ohio.. U say something? Lol

Ohio_Cane

Childish AND negative? That's news.

UMike

Still talking I see

WWIN

Hey everybody just settle down! Both of you have the same agent, so it's all good!

UMike

Lol WWIM

SOUP

I hate recruiting season.

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