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February 06, 2014

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Dude on a Pale Horse

UNO

SOUP

Swiss Cheese

herbieibis

Third just like we were in the state, again!

Dude on a Pale Horse

Herb,

3rd comes right before 1st 'round here. At least I think so after watching our defense last year.

Of course if your the offense... I'm the punting unit, 4th, lol.

j.w.

5! One way to avoid the signing day drama is to work all day, then follow it up with a softball lesson, soccer game, and an NBA game

IraqiCane

Chad Thomas!!!

Stanadrd Shriver

Ive had so much fun watching such an awful basketball team on the offensive side. Larranaga is absolutely coaching his ass off putting these kids in opportunity after opportunity to win.....they just cant make a damed shot when it matters.

In spite of the futility and frustration surrounding this years team.....these kids leave it on the floor by games end. Really proud of this group, in spite of the record.

Stanadrd Shriver

Ive never had so much fun watching such an awful basketball team on the offensive side. Larranaga is absolutely coaching his ass off putting these kids in opportunity after opportunity to win.....they just cant make a damed shot when it matters.

In spite of the futility and frustration surrounding this years team.....these kids leave it on the floor by games end. Really proud of this group, in spite of the record.

canezilla


I say build a giant platform atop Hecht and put the stadium atop it there. Or turn the lake into a retractable pool and have the stadium rise out of it as called for.

Posted by: TonyCane | February 06, 2014 at 12:09 AM
U HAVE TO PICK ONE!! LET ME KNOW ILL START THE PLANS

Go Canes

Tropical Park is our only legit chance of ever being close to home.

Lurker

What about building a stadium a mile below the university itself in an underground bunker? Or what if we built a stadium in the sky that is held up by a series of blimps and helicopters? CaneRock suggested a converted battleship. How about a volcano stadium? We could sacrafice opponents after the game to the angry volcano god.

Posted by: The Dude | February 06, 2014 at 12:27 AM

Exactly.

Those are all more likely.

Stadium talk is crazy talk.

Lurker


But IF they do something like this then maybe:

Tropical Park (oft discussed and available).

MDCC South Campus (land is avaliable and could be converted).

Open land west of Turnpike near Sun Life.

Posted by: SOUP | February 05, 2014 at 11:30 PM

Those locations are all better than the port, being as is the port location is an impossibility. The truth is though, there is no money, nor will there ever be, to build a decent stadium for 6-7 games a year. People need to understand what Miami is. A tiny academic school, in a beautiful location, with a major football program. We compete with moneyed titans like Alabama, and state schools with state funding and 50-100,000 undergrads.

Notre a Dame just got $400 million for stadium renovations. We are begging for $7 million for practice facilities and still haven't gotten it. A decent stadium for Miami football in Miami might cost as much as ND renovations or close to it. Where's the money coming from.

How about we sell recruits on the idea of playing in an NFL stadium where they would play as a pro one day. Where national championships have been won. Where Super Bowls have been won.

4-Real

How bout we take the WAIT & SEE approach regarding a stadium b4 we adopt the NEVER GONNA HAPPEN mentality?

Lurker

You're right. Never going to happen in our lifetimes, maybe 50 years from now, or unless some billionaire becomes a rabid canes fan. Good point.

UMike

Doesnt Miami have like 25 years left on their lease?

Lurker

You can break a lease fit the right amount of money. It's the actual cost of the stadium that will prevent it EVER being built unless we find a billionaire sugar daddy, like at Okie State willing to put up close to half a billion.

Why not just celebrate that we play in an NFL, Super Bowl, and BCS National Champ stadium?

UMike

I guess I dont really care one way or the other. If the people dont come, it dont matter where we play.

SOUP

Homestead

SinisterCane

Good morning Spacers

LB

"1. LACK OF DEPTH AT RUNNING BACK!!!! Wow, how the hell can this happen? You need more than 4 freaking running backs. Unacceptable. If we get injuries, which probably will occur because of our lack of size, we may have to go 5 wide all year.

NEGATIVE: CORN ELDER + ONE RB TBA IS COMING."

Wait, what? Are you telling me that Corn Elder is going to play RB?

Don't joke with me.

UMike

When Duke went down our running game and offense grinded to a halt... lets hope Duke and/or Yearby can stay healthy

pbcfrcane13

What UM needs to do is team up with the MLS team and help them build a stadium and play soccer and canes football out of it. Imagine canes football games on the port walking to bayside pre and post game 40k with being able to add an extra 10-20k. Let's do this

Go Canes

Recruiting never sleeps:

Leeward Brown ‏@leeboe71
Got University Of Miami Offer #Canes

Go Canes

I dont think the stadium on campus is a money issue as much as it is a Coral Gables will never allow it issue.

Endowments, financing and other avenues are available to build a stadium, but the Gables will never allow a 40,000 seat monstrosity to be built on campus.

UMike

If Miami can manage to win some games this year (8-10), with no blow outs... and the D improves, 2015 should be an even better class than 2014.

Go Canes

Interesting view from Caneinsight. Agree with some of it (made error with Treon big time in my opinion), don't agree with other parts of it.

The part I dislike about it is saying we made "mistakes" in not getting kids like Rudolph, Michel and Valentine. Two of the three were committed here then left, the other never gave us a shot. But all three were recruited early and hard.

I also don't like the whole we should have taken this kid over that kid talk. We don't know everything that happens or why coaches evaluate one guy over another.

Finally, I definitely agree A LOT of money is changing hands. The NCAA can't get out of it's own way, has no authority or staff to enforce and is petrified to go after the big boys.

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My thoughts on the class (long)

There are two schools of thought with this recruiting class.

One group is disappointed because they know what this class could have been. These fans have lost faith in the staff’s ability to coach, so they believe we need superstar classes to compete with the big boys.

The second group is happy about the kids we actually signed and doesn’t worry about the misses. These fans have full faith in Golden and believe it’s only a matter of time before Miami is back on top.

The truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle.

It’s impossible to ignore the mistakes that kept us from capitalizing on South Florida’s bumper crop. We lost head-to-head battles for Valentine, Sony, Cook, Dixon and Rudolph. Everybody has heard the money rumors, and there may be some truth there. But more often than not, these rumors come from highly competitive coaches who can’t admit defeat. We got beat on these guys.

We’re still stubborn on size. I thought we were done with this crap when Golden came in and offered Dallas Crawford. But this year, we turned down Juwon Dowels and Isaiah McKenzie simply because they were too small. That’s disappointing.

Brandon Powell’s defection was a total screw up. No other way to put it.

We were clumsy in our QB recruiting after Kaaya. Before the season, I advocated offering Kaaya, Treon Harris and Winky Flowers. We ended up doing exactly that, except we waited too long to offer Treon and offered a similar out-of-state player (Rosier) instead of Winky. If we followed the right blueprint, we could’ve signed two of the best athletes in Miami.

We offered Ryan Mayes instead of taking a similar player (Quincy Wilson) with Canes blood and extensive connections to the local football community. Wilson is by no means a perfect prospect, but this move revealed two flaws in our approach: an inability to think big-picture and an overemphasis on the Golden Camp. We make too many decisions based on workouts in shirts and shorts.

Finally, the defensive scheme is the new “cloud.” High school coaches are talking about it and college coaches are using it against us. If the results don’t change, this will do even more damage than the NCAA ever could.

But even with all of these issues, I feel the same way that Coach Golden felt in his NSD press conference: confident and comfortable.

The word to describe this class is “healthy.” There is balance across the board. The two most important positions in football—quarterback and defensive line—are the strongest positions in the class. Kaaya is our biggest coup in years. We’ve accumulated a stable of talented and hungry pass-rushers. The offensive line is in terrific shape. Kiy Hester will provide safety depth right away, and Berrios will emerge as a Shockey-type fan favorite.

If Golden is the man for the job, he has enough to win with. If he’s not, the next guy will have a balanced roster without the gaping holes that Coker and Shannon left behind.

More than anything, I just love seeing kids like Demetrius Jackson and Trayon Gray shed tears for the colors. I don’t care if it’s corny. Last year was the roughest NSD in ages, but we will always remember Stacy Coley putting on the Swag hat. These guys will represent the Canes for the next few years and maybe the next decade in the pros. Forget about the coaches. That’s what this day is about.

Welcome to Miami, fellas. Let’s go get number six.

UMike

Go Canes... I kinda just skimmed through that, but I do think we made a "mistake" with Rudoplph, not because we lost him, but the way we lost him. We were trying to recruit him as a DB, not a WR which is why he decommitted. Of course we "cleared it up" after the fact, but it was to late. Guess what, he would of been the best WR in our class. He is now a 5-Star WR and #1 WR according to Rivals. So, that was a mistake.

I do not agree on Wilson, kid just seems like a bad seed an didnt want to listen to reason, but I do agree with offering some kids based on the bigger picture and how it effects other things.

30CINCO

Posted by: UMike | February 06, 2014 at 09:19 AM
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Did he commit as a WR or DB? If at WR, did we attempt to change it after?

Lurker

Go Canes - a campus on stadium is not even up for debate. Only clueless idiots or really ignorant people think it's an impossibility.

Also: What UM needs to do is team up with the MLS team and help them build a stadium and play soccer and canes football out of it. Imagine canes football games on the port walking to bayside pre and post game 40k with being able to add an extra 10-20k. Let's do this

Posted by: pbcfrcane13 | February 06, 2014 at 08:40 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Really smart people say really not so smart things sometimes. It will be more likely for you to visit a unicorn farm on that site than to see the canes play there. Also, a university "teaming up" with the MSL, I almost spit my coffee out.

I don't know what it is about this stadium issue that makes people go soft in the head.

It's Sun Life today, tomorrow and 20 years from now. Get used to it.

Lurker

I got my statement all twisted Go Canes, here's what I meant to say

Go Canes - a stadium on campus is not even up for debate. Only clueless idiots or really ignorant people think it's a possibility.

UMike

30... to be honest IDK. I want to think he committed as a WR since that is what he was listed as. Somewhere along the lines the staff wanted him at DB and he left.

UMike

And even if he did commit as a DB (and im not saying he did), but IF he did... whenever he said he wanted to play WR, they should of listened, either way the staff dropped the ball in this particular instance.

Ohio_Cane

We spelled his name wrong on his name tag and he was pissed lol

UMike

lol Ohio

UMike

The staff obviously recognized his talent early on, and I praise them for that, but somewhere along the line (maybe depth reasons) they stumbled on this one.

Go Canes

Maybe the kid started getting heavy interest from all over and just decommitted.

Happens every day.

Don't know if it was handled wrong or the kid just took off.

UpNorthCane27

Who is this Rudolph we all speak of? tell you what guy I know about and that's the Cubano berrios!!! that boy will be moving our chains and improving our 3rd down deficiencies!!!

Breakout player next year.....MALCOM LEWIS!!!

Terrance Sullivan

UMike Our lease with Sun Life runs through 2033.

30CINCO

I agree, Berrios will help a ton

Terrance Sullivan

Great article Soup and loving the talent shots U took.

UMike

Maybe the kid started getting heavy interest from all over and just decommitted.

Happens every day.

Don't know if it was handled wrong or the kid just took off.

Posted by: Go Canes | February 06, 2014 at 10:01 AM

How did I know you were gonna have something to say lol.. look I know what I know, and I know it wasnt because of "heavy interest"... He left LONG before he blew up, and the situation was widely reported. But hey, as Goldens PR man, good job lol

UMike

"I decommitted from Miami because there was trust issues," Rudolph said at the Miami NFTC on Sunday. "I felt like they were recruiting me inconsistently. I want to play wide receiver and I told them that, but they were doing that lying process where they would tell me one thing but it's really another.

"[Al] Golden was telling me he wanted me to play cornerback, but when he heard I wanted to play wide receiver he's telling me that, 'Oh, you're going to be the next Andre Johnson' and stuff. There were just some inconsistencies with the way they were recruiting me."

UMike

^^ But you're right,.. we dont know if it was handled wrong

UMike

I can see it now... Go Canes desperately searching for another angle that makes the staff right lol

CaneRock

Seeing that Yearby almost left, just proved that this was a good, but FRAGILE class. Ditto with Thomas, if He left, that would've been TRAGIC!

30CINCO

BUT, they didn't.

UMike

I think the Powell situation was fishy, but not on the staffs part. I mean, how in the hell does a kid get an offer and commit and enroll in he dead period, all a day or two after he was set to enroll at Miami lol.. and Powell as ALL Miami, no signs of wavering.

30CINCO

Gotta feed his family

UMike

yea, Florida must have a better "meal package" lol

CaneRock

UMike, according to Powell's HS coach, UF was His "dream school". When He got that UF offer, He hauled ass LMAO!

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