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March 08, 2014

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thirstybuzzardcane

Do you guys think we would be dancing this year if we still had Shane Larkin? I think Miami's record would be around 23-8 and would be dancing if he stuck around.

Go Canes

Lol, another classic answer.

Stadiums,facilities, college atmosphere, none of it matters these days.

Just win anyway.

RCCF

GoCanes did you ask and answer your own question?? LoL


RCCF

CaneRock

"Stadiums,facilities, college atmosphere, none of it matters these days."

No they don't Ole' Might Cloud Hunter, like my man RCCF said..."5 Championships say so"!

CaneSawMassacre

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CaneRock

Do you guys think we would be dancing this year if we still had Shane Larkin?

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | March 11, 2014 at 11:46 AM

HELLS YES! Guard play is VERY! important in College. But I do think Lecomte's gonna be a good one though.


UMike

I think winning is the most important thing. Why else would a kid from Miami go to freaken Alabama? lol.... Maybe some kids are impressed by the stadiums, or the atmosphere, but I dont think those things hurt Miami to any great degree. There is a college atmosphere in Coral Gables, just not so much in the stadium. Our tradition and history, NFL pedigree, tight-knit family bond, South Beach etc are all more important than the stadium we play in... imo. We play in a pro stadium, not some POS old facility. Maybe we lose a recruit here and there because of the stadium, or lack of college atmosphere, but I would think we lose WAY more recruits simple because we dont win enough and its obviously our D is horrible.

Ohio_Cane

What Players Have D'No recruited Specifically and Who is Picking the Defensive Players for this AllGreat Scheme??

RCCF....not tryna start trouble just wanna know..

Posted by: RCCF | March 11, 2014 at 11:32 AM
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I don't follow who is recruiting who generally, but I know he's primarily responsible for Hester this year.

Go Canes

Sure I'll answer it. It's EVERYTHING in TODAY'S game.

Not in 1980, not in 1990, not even in 2000. In TODAY's game.

Why do you think Notre Dame, Texas AM, Baylor, Oklahoma State, Bama and Oregon just to name a few are spending HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS EACH improving their facilities?

So boosters can be comfy at the games?

You know what, forget what I just said. I'll let FSU's AD answer for me.

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It's an arms race. That's the reality of college athletics … and we can't allow other universities to continue to have an upper hand on us.

--Florida State athletic director Stan Wilcox


That a good enough answer for you Mr. "5 ships prove it."?

thirstybuzzardcane


But I do think Lecomte's gonna be a good one though.


Posted by: CaneRock | March 11, 2014 at 12:06 PM


Agreed....would of been nice to have Locomte under Larkins wing for 1 year

RCCF

Posted by: UMike | March 11, 2014 at 12:08 PM

I agree 100% kids are not choosing against Miami because the stadium isn't on campus..
The Defense Stinks and The Kids are thrown under the bus...Sorry I wouldn't wanna play for a guy that is gonna throw me under the bus as soon as the Nation starts saying that his coaching scheme Bites...Sure Golden is GREAT at selling the program and re-establishing broken relationships..but I for one believe those relationships were broken for a reason...kids get PAID to leave FL bottomline..I do NOT believe any kid who wakes up to sunny days Everyday wants to wake up to cows, dirt roads, and minimal life that college towns bring...just my humble opinion but the issue with Miami is not the stadium and it NEVER was or will be, and Neither are facilities...if Facilities mattered as much as some believe then why is that the NFLU and friends Always retreat back to the U for training with the Great Swassey and have for years to where it is documented NFL coaches don't like that the CANES train together and not with their perspective teams in the NFL...blame the scheme!!


RCCF

UMike

Go Canes.. we never have and never will be able to compete with those State schools, that is simply not Miami. Miami sells kids on The U, South Beach, top notch education, most NFL players (most of the time), the family bond, the City of Miami, Coral Gables, small classrooms and playing in an NFL stadium among other things. We have NEVER sold a recruit on our facilities, and we probably never will... but our recent update is very nice.

RCCF

It's an arms race. That's the reality of college athletics … and we can't allow other universities to continue to have an upper hand on us.

--Florida State athletic director Stan Wilcox

Tell that idiot its a Ring Race we have 5 and U?
Also as UMike said we aren't and Never have sold kids on facilities we sell kids on truth this U is the NFL and if U don't know it U better recognize....Better Education and SouthBeach...hell they probably sell on the MiamiHeat more than they do on facilities...I know what they aren't selling tho...lol...SwissCheese.. Nobody is buying that crap...well except GoCanes of course.

RCCF

CaneRock

I don't GIVE A DAMN! what the FSU AD says. The reason UM won 5 SHIPS!, is either because we had GREAT! motivators, coupled with talent (Schnelly,JJ,MAAAYBE Erickson, & Butch), or we had so much talent, that it didn't matter who the damn HC was (check Coker).

Coker =s HORRIBLE! motivator.
Shannon =s HORRIBLE! motivator.
Golden =s TBDed...we'll see.

RCCF

GoCanes not jabbing or picking but when did you become a CANES fan?? simple question just asking we have all done this before so its not a jab..

RCCF

CaneRock

^^^^^^^^ You know what, I'ma have to put Erickson under that "it didn't matter who the damn HC was" category LMAO!

Go Canes

I guess it's just a coincidence then how the programs I mentioned, along with several others that have top tiered facilities are perennial contenders.

Man have they wasted a ton of money!!

CaneRock

I know what they aren't selling tho...lol...SwissCheese.. Nobody is buying that crap...well except GoCanes of course.

RCCF

Posted by: RCCF | March 11, 2014 at 12:27 PM

LMAO!

Go Canes...equals Tattoo.

Ding Dong! De Cloud, De Cloud. Ding Dong! De Cloud, De Cloud.

VA Cane

We do not win and we do not get the great recruits for simple reasons.....

too much emphasis on recruiting stars instead of players, too many HS games on tv and too many HS All Star bowl games, too many 40 times, too many kids reading their press clippings, too many sites hyping kids, too much emphasis on stats, too many national rankings for individual HS players and teams, coaches in it for the glory instead of the game, too many kids with speed or strength but no fundamental skills and brains, too much me not enough we, very poor coaches who do not know the game and do not develop players, players who want to wear the U on their head not heart, too much damn entitlement from players and coaches too much damn SWAG and ass clown attitude!!!

This damn game is about fundamentals, team, thinking, developing skills kids have to a higher level, conditioning, desire, attitude, super aggression, passion, hating your opponent respecting the game, coaching with the idea of pursuing perfection but catching excellence, and winning at all costs that are hard clean fast and low...gentlemen...its about education and championships!!!

Get a group of 13-14 year olds from anywhere....ANYWHERE....I will play you on asphalt or in a cowfield or in Sun Life.....and I promise you I will beat your ass into the ground....guaranteed!!!!! We play for keeps up here we play for one reason: to win it all while destroying you mentally physically psychologically and permanently!! See I hate excuses and love winning at everything I do. Its easy to make excuses....its very hard to win titles consistently......We win very very consistently.....and take no prisoners!!!

I ask AG and staff,and anyone else who wants to piss cry and moan....Whats your excuse for being an also ran today?

Get kerosene rags and tie them to your ankles so the ants wont eat your CANDY AZZ!!!!!

By the way.....we are on the field today at 3 getting ready for August 12th see we love winning titles....not SWAG or making excuses!!!!

Apocalypse Now Football is on in VA baby!!!Wooooooooo said Rick Flair!!!!

Ohio_Cane

Erickson was given the keys to a Lamborghini and told not to crash it....

Go Canes

Rccf I'm going to venture a guess I've been going to Canes games since you were in diapers, or maybe even longer.

UMike

lol Ohio

UMike

One thing that hurts Miami.... is Miami. Unfortunately, most of the talented kids that play for Miami or come out of the South Florida area live in some of the worst neighborhoods in the country. A lot of kids simply want to get out of that, and I can't blame them for that. Of course Coral Gables is another world from The City, OT, The Lock, North Miami, Carol City etc, but kids go back to those same area to visit on weekends, breaks etc. That is one thing that will always hurt us and will will lose kids because of it. But, I'm not mad at that reason at all.

Go Canes

I agree 100% with that UMike. All I said last night is this is a great thing for us.

But these guys saying facilities don't give other schools an enormous advantage are clueless.

VA Cane

Show me your acre weight room or fantastic gym or whatever.....then let me show you our trophy case...we are going for 6 in 8 years.....see I get kids who are from the country...black white big small.....but I sell them on the fact that I will educate them in life, school and that we will dominate the guys we play against....the kids from Chester, Brandemill, Clover Hill, Woodlake, the ones whose parents drive Rolls and Beamers and kids wear designer clothes, have I phones and put you down for being who you are and wear you are from.....You learn to do it at all levels....weights are weights....you get kids 18-22 inspired wanting to win titles not look like girls in Oregons unis.....well it takes a special kid....and coach....dont think our guys on staff can sell that....cause they cannot back it up....dont know what it takes to be CHAMPIONS!!!!!

Go Canes

Amen to that Ohio. My friends and I spent many a night watching him drink the night away.

RCCF

Posted by: Go Canes | March 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM

GoCanes you can't venture that because you don't know my age and going to games doesn't make you a fan it makes you a person utilizing your surroundings...so again I say what made or when did you become a CANES fan?

funny you just asked for the answer to be simple and plain but immediately start doing the Golden ChaCha when I ask you 1 simple question...smh

RCCF

UMike

I guess it's just a coincidence then how the programs I mentioned, along with several others that have top tiered facilities are perennial contenders.

Man have they wasted a ton of money!!

Posted by: Go Canes | March 11, 2014 at 12:34 PM

If that is what it takes to be perennial contenders, then we might as well close up shop now lol

RCCF

GoCanes you act like facilities are why kids win Championships...like REALLY so how bout this before facilities became all world how were teams winning and attracting kids then?
If the stadium is why kids come why isn't everyone beating down Michigan's door? they have the largest football stadium Period?

UMike I would believe that because I know as a kid from Chicago once you are out or have a chance to be out you Do NOT want to look back... Growing up in poor environments would make a kid wanna go far or just away from it all...that is a good reason Miami losses kids...facilities Not So Much..

RCCF

Old Skool

Under the fire is Kalua which is how you cook a pig at a luau. Soup will be handling the honors at this year's Canespace camp out. It'll probably be done in private because no one wants to see him in a grass skirt.

VA Cane

Well at this time I am resigned to the fact that for the next stretch of time that we will always be 9-3 8-4 and play in a small bowl game we will win about 50% of the time. Until you get dynamic, get real, learn some real football ...teach and develop it get some real schemes instead of the bush league no go stuff we are running....and develop fundamentally sound kids who are drunk with passion for winning as a team and punishing people....we will be about where we are now.....in the Top 30 to 50 programs in the country. Talk is cheap mates, reality is today as yesterday is history and tomorrow is a mystery.....so I suggest throw out the warm fuzzy space cadet glow and get down to real football.....its overwhelmingly fun when done right!!!!!

UMike

RCCF, once I was out, I was GONE lol... I would never want to raise my kids in the hoods' I grew up in. I love where Im from and wouldnt change my experiences, even the most painful ones, for anything... but I wouldnt choose it if given the change. The streets dont care about a dam scholarship, the streets will pull you right back.

UMike

VA... good points

Go Canes

UMike we can overcome that because we have the great equalizer, south Florida talent.

Just need to keep getting as many local kids as we can.

j.w.

Ericksen. Damn those memories! Great game day coach, terrible recruiter, not even close to a disciplinarian, and he trashed the program by the time he was done. I knew guys who played for both Jimmy and him, and they all liked Ericksen better during their career. He billed himself as a player's coach and he was, he just couldn't establish any limits.

CaneRock

SERIOUSLY!...WTF! do "facilities", or an "on campus stadium", have to do with Curtis Porter covering a PHUCKIN'! SCAT-BACK?! Can somebody answer THAT!

RCCF

Guess Im not gonna get my simple answer from GoCanes....oh yea since I was in diapers LmmfaO with the age assumption..

RCCF

Dude on a Pale Horse

Go Canes,

I totally agreed with you last night that facilities matter in recruiting. I also said that Golden flirting with PSU and our defense matters in recruiting and you wouldn't bite and say yeah that matters also. So its a two way street but you don't want to say it.

Go Canes

I loved the way Jim Kelly played so I started going to games to watch him.

That's when I started loving the Canes and have been going to nearly every game since.

RCCF

Posted by: CaneRock | March 11, 2014 at 01:02 PM

That is what happens when a TE coaches Defense LmmfaO....LmmfaO Again oh and LmmfaO


RCCF

Dude on a Pale Horse

Amen to that Old Skool. Lol

RCCF

GoCanes Thank You....now I must say I do believe JimKelly is the Best QB to come thru the U but he NEVER gets his just due...KenDorsey gets all the glory but lets be serious with the tools KenDorsey had Anyone could've played QB...JimKelly needs more U love can't believe we hardly speak of the guy smh...finally I agree with GoCanes


RCCF

Go Canes

Dude I just don't feel that's going to be a big deal long term. One really good season and recruits will be flocking here in my opinion.

UMike

Dude I just don't feel that's going to be a big deal long term. One really good season and recruits will be flocking here in my opinion.

Posted by: Go Canes | March 11, 2014 at 01:16 PM

So then winning means more than facilities?

Golden flirting with PSU stung us this year, but rival coaches COULD use it for a few years, they've used less lol

Go Canes

I also don't think that happening has anything to do with prior issues we've had with the stadium and our on campus facilities.

Thankfully things are getting much better I both areas now.

CaneRock

That is what happens when a TE coaches Defense LmmfaO....LmmfaO Again oh and LmmfaO

RCCF

Posted by: RCCF | March 11, 2014 at 01:09 PM

RCCF...seriously dawg, I can almost guarantee you that our competitors show that clip to recruits. And then the Go Canes of the world wanna shift the blame to lack of an "on campus stadium", or "lack of facilities" as the main reason key recruits don't wanna come here.

PHUCKDAT$H!T!...WIN ANYWAY!

RCCF

CaneRock I already KNOW they show them that, and the Sapp Clips of Dogging the staff as well as other Greats Dogging the staff, Im sure they show them that and more and it won't stop this season or beyond until they put a man of Steel in that office OR the man we have starts Accepting Responsibility for his end of the Mess and Fixes it by Firing his Bff.ff....THAT would right the ship and Make EVERYONE happy..

RCCF

Go Canes

When exactly did I say that CaneRock? About top tiered recruits not coming here because of our facilities?

Or should I add that to the list of things you make up and attribute to me?

Again, those are your words not mine.

All I've said is our inferior situation has been a negative we've had to overcome, and it's only getting tougher.

I backed that statement with facts showing how just about every perennial contender has much more at their disposal. I quoted the AD of the defending champs addressing that very issue.

So please, at least be accurate when fabricating what I say.

30CINCO

http://andrewjpatrick.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/dead-horse.gif

RCCF

Being a private institution has nothing to do with the disadvantage we have had because of where our stadium is.

We are competing with programs like Alabama, LSU, FSU and UF for recruits. All of those program have massive, top of the line on campus stadiums and the best facilities available.

Saying facilities haven't hurt us in recruiting is ludicrous.


Posted by: Go Canes | March 10, 2014 at 09:19 PM

I believe this is where you stated as such...but I digress..

RCCF

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