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April 30, 2014

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SOUP

1. Im not a Golden hater nor lover, Im somewhere in the middle I guess.

2. But he has also done really good things here. But none of it matters if he cant win.

Posted by: UMike | May 01, 2014 at 10:22 AM

1. Then why all of the HATE for the Golden lovers?

2. This IS true.

SOUP

One final thought regarding exposure and attention: Winning solves everything. JMO

Posted by: VA Cane | May 01, 2014 at 10:40 AM

And if IT ("The Truth") was ever anywhere, there IT is right there!

UMike

SOUP, I dont like the Golden lovers because they ALWAYS have some sort of excuse lined up to protect him. When something is bad, its bad, call it like it is, dont dig and search for some excuse to make it right. It like those parents whose kids are NEVER wrong and they will fight you to the end about it lol

I like Golden more than I hate him... but I lost A LOT of respect and faith in him when he didnt fire D'No and then had the nerve to say the D was tending up.

I havent really knocked Golden and this staff in a long time around here, and Im no trying to.. but they got to show something this year. QB or not, they got to show something.

BEERicane

Here are some words to live by:

It is much more powerful to be for something than it is to be against something.

SOUP

BEER...I like it! Can I have another?

VA Cane

Thanks Soup, thought you would like that. It sounds cliche, and for some maybe it is. I found out long ago as a player and coach that winning makes everything else pale in comparison. Critics cannot say but so much if you win.

Not only do my kids do the winning, they are winning in life. We did a quick tally of grades, and my incoming team looks to have about 3.27 GPA. I think I will have 2 kids picked in the draft; Morgan Moses OT UVA maybe a first rounder with Carolina looking at him as a need position. I am very proud of my gentle giant. He is a kind, soft spoken, character individual who has done well. Thats why we have meetings with players Lurker Cosell, to know what is going on in our small world and the big world beyond!!!!!

Win everyday; Life Family School Football thats my goal and definition of winning. If you win in those 4 aspects in a hard, fast, and clean way, who can question you? Well, other than Lurker....I'm just saying....

30CINCO

What is the criteria for a Cane to be considered a Cane?

Player : Is it the moment they sign? Do they have to be here atleast 1/2 years? Do they have to be in the rotation? Are walk-on considered Canes? Do they have to be good?

Coaches : Moment they sign? Do they have to win? Minimum time here? Are coaches that are fired considered Canes?

Curious

SOUP

QB or not, they got to show something.

Posted by: UMike | May 01, 2014 at 10:48 AM

As a "realist" U should already know that this year is NOT the make or break year for Golden and crew. If U don't U are just setting yourself up for disappointment. That is NOT to say that the Canes should not win in 2014, I think they will win at least 9 games, win their division of the ACC and be ranked in the top 25 even with the tougher schedule. But to expect an ACC title over FSU, a top 5 ranking and one of the eight playoff spots MAY not be doable this season.

But DON'T U worry IF after the 2015 season he ain't "shown something" then all bets are off. The five year plan, or "process", must be reaching completion (ACC title, a playoff spot and/or championship) or at least be VERY near completion during year 5.

BEERicane

Even if you don't know what you are talking about, act like you do! (?)
Lol

SOUP

UMike...just for the record though: "I feel U bruh." We ALL want our Canes back. The Canes U accurately described above. I have wanted them back since I started this blog in June of 2007. Unfortunately, neither U or I have gotten our wish. But trust me, if I could make it so I would have done so long, long ago.

So now we sit around in our rocking chairs and we choose to "trust the process" until it works or we simply can no longer trust it.

Go Canes

I am a troll who flounced from here, talked mad shit about the owner of the blog and then took my ball from where I flounced to while pretended to begin posting here again for the first time to spread accusations of a personal nature against regular poster's here in between sniffing the twitter handle jocks of underage teenage boys. But I make really brave stances about how much I don't like the NCAA and think racial slurs aren't OK in between violating Godwin's law in an attempt to supplicate Alverage Slogan so I can feel like I have a high horse to sit on when people make fun of his lame coaching career with his roommate from college still attached at the hip, or maybe 90 degrees toward the back, but attached nonetheless, so you're all the bad people, not me. Be back around soon, got to go sniff more underage jocks on Twitter so I can be the fifth person on here to repost from one site to this one because that's what I'm here to do, in between pretending to be a new poster here when I'm anything but . . .

UMike

30.. I was speaking in terms of the team... but me a player is a Cane from the moment he signs no matter how well or bad he plays. Not sure how I feel about coaches lol

UMike

So now we sit around in our rocking chairs and we choose to "trust the process" until it works or we simply can no longer trust it.

Posted by: SOUP | May 01, 2014 at 11:10 AM

I think I am at that point now.

VA Cane

I think there have been a lot of reasons for the demise of the program. To use excuse for all of them is not correct. My first team at age 19 I had a good group of kids who were talented. They needed some discipline and coaching of fundamentals but were good. We went 7-0, won the playoffs and SB. First Year Champs. It took me several years to get back to the SB, struggle to get in playoffs. So I understand.

This disease has eaten away at the UM carcass for a long time. We peaked against Nebraska. The next year the players went through the motions, overlooked OSU and got beat, not cheated...that is an excuse. Coker was not the guy to reign them in. He was a terrible recruiter, and the guys got fatter and lazier until he was clinging to the job. RS came in, and it was doomed to fail. He was not a HC at all, he did not like a lot of people, and a lot of people did not like him. He was a PC hire and though he tried hard, it just did not work. He was a terrible HC and he recruited people he liked because they liked him. He played people off each other, he had a revolving door of coaches, the administration was not so fond of him, and as a HC he was bad. Players were bad players over rated under skilled and not developed. The fault of all, not just RS. Then you get the NCAA stuff, average players, good ones going to the good schools, a whole new staff, the stadium situation.....and losing. bottom line is this:losing makes bad things worse. It can also motivate you to great heights.

2002-04 fought against the odds through the lean years and with such talent they overcame. So far, the talent level is not there, the U is not back, and has been off the radar for 10 years. We do not matter, we are not a premier program, and we are not in the mix for any kind of title...yet. I think that is the perception.

I do not know the alternative. Fire everyone now, start over? No. Demand a title this year? Not Happening. See improvement, start winning the bigger games, keep recruiting and get the fans to see it and come out? Yes. I will try to be optimistic and hope for these things. I want these guys to succeed.

VA Cane

Bottom line is this: we have to get better and we need to win games. All games matter. There are some games you have to win, and others you cannot lose. We find a way to drop that ball. It is going to take a huge effort from all involved to get there. We must work hard. Win and things just seem to work better!

Terrance Sullivan

Great blogging peeps. I agree with the sentiments stated above especially Soup.

Go Canes

Well said VA Cane.

SOUP

Preach on, VA Cane, PREACH ON!!!

That was a seriously good sermon right there.

U just got an AMEN from the congregation.

UMike

I waiting for the excuse/explanation that goes like this.. "well, me and my buddy D'No aren't really skilled in the art of building and/or running a successful defensive scheme"...that excuse I will buy! haha

VA Cane

Thanks GC...I have to look at it this way. Do you just clean house, fire them all, alienate the kids and destroy the progress that has been made? I am the first to say we need to get better; we do. We need to be fundamentally sound. Thats the foundation, the support, the building block.

I have to say we did win 9 games. We did not play well in the last 3, or the bowl game. We did not. The passion, hunger, tenacity, aggression level or whatever you want to call it has to go up in a positive way. It has to be players, coaches, and all involved. Not an angry, bitter, or hateful path, but rather a positive, uplifting, growth path that spreads in a strong way to all involved.

"Crack the sky, shake the earth" take it all in as one mentality. It can be done and I am going to look at it in the most positive light I can. This game is not easy, but rather a challenge thrown down at the feet of the mightiest of men. You must step forward and not be given a reward, but rather earn it. When you do, it is the greatest reward in sports.

I respect Lebron J very much, but he said our game is the greatest game in the world. I think football is the greatest game and the rewards of being the best in football cannot be matched. JMO

hassan

VA how good is Josh Sweat? Clowney good? what are our chances with him?

Terrance Sullivan

Well said VA

VA Cane

I think he is very good, and with good development of his skills and body combined with continued stress on fundamentals, he can be a very good player in the U mold. I saw him when he was younger and not developed; he is quite the opposite now. I have a good buddy coaching down there and SK sees most of the good ones play. He says the young man is very talented and can be a very good college player that will get better. He is undeclared; I hear his name a lot around the state via people I know. would be a very good Cane.

hassan

Thanks for the scouting on Sweat, for those not into recruiting he is about the top recruit in V.A. and is a big boy 6'5 and long and a hell of a motor, kind of reminds me of our commit Patchan.

VA Cane

I think we have more of a mental block than a physical one. Yes we need to get more aggressive, stronger, meaner. We have to get hungry for competition. I do think at times these kids feel that pressure of being the U. That is not easy. 5 NCs, great All Americans, legendary coaches, trend setters in so many ways, so many All Pros.....there is no stairway to heaven, though Led Zep differs....there is a stairway to the NFL....if you want to get there via hard work and sacrifice. Its UM football. We have a block in the mind blocking our stairway to success right now. I think it takes a great mind to let these kids know you do not have to be that U....nobody can.

Be the New U.....MC5 song Future Now be the future of U football now by being you, working harder than ever, total sacrifice. All as a unit it can and will happen...Coaches, staff, players, administration, fans. Clear that block in the mind. Live now, not 83 to 2003....be the new U. I am pulling for the boys with all I can muster!!!

Ohio_Cane

Sweat is not interested in us from what I understand. We have offered, though.

orange 'n green in the vein

You know the seat is hot when an imbecile who only knows how to competently self promote his incompetence at his job is turning down exposure on a pay cable network.

Dave Clawson can be had from Wake, you know, if you're serious about hiring a coach with an actual winning reputation from the MAC and money is no object. Which Blake James hasn't shown yet because he's just a ticket manager over-promoted in the hierarchy until he shows otherwise.

SOUP

Thanks for the scouting on Sweat, for those not into recruiting he is about the top recruit in V.A. and is a big boy 6'5 and long and a hell of a motor, kind of reminds me of our commit Patchan.

Posted by: hassan | May 01, 2014 at 12:24 PM

I do not follow recruiting much and had never heard the name. Maybe Ohio andUMike can dig a little deeper?

SOUP

I am pulling for the boys with all I can muster!!!

Posted by: VA Cane | May 01, 2014 at 12:30 PM

That is all any of us can do.

GO CANES!

VA Cane

Ohio he has a Whos Who list of offers. A lot of them are names for names sake, not so much for content as in the past.

The big boys are Bama, LSU, FSU, Ok, Clemson, GA, Ohio St, Oregon, Mich St, UCLA.

He has been offered by ND, UNC, South Carolina, USC, PSU, Pitt, MD, Nebraska, Temple, Old Miss, Old Dominion, Temple, VT, TN, Wisconsin, UF, Mich, U Mass, NC State, TX AM, UM. The top 10 schools have the best shot from my sources, but he has not committed. some of these also rans are reaches, but you never know, he may end up anywhere right now.

VA Cane

He is a big kid, strong, athletic and pretty fast. He has a great first step of the ball, quick, and closes on the ball well. Use hands pretty good. I like that aspect of his game. He plays against good competition, and should be a hot item.

He is a lot like Clowney except one thing: he has a 426 Hemi Sprint engine and never takes plays off. I really liked Clowney when he started playing. I do not care for his attitude and work ethic at this time. His head is big. Great possibilities, but he will find out you dont just strut into the NFL, pop the hatch and say here I am.

We may get to see Sweat. I do not know, but have heard from some in the VA Beach area his leaders are VT and FSU. Not confirmed but a couple guys have told me that. We will see.

Ohio_Cane

Oh ya, Sweat has an offer from pretty much every school in the country.

If they haven't offered they either will or haven't because he said "I won't come there even if U do offer".

I don't see a "Clowney clone" so to speak, but he probably should be top 3 in the country, regardless of position.

VA Cane

I think Clowney is one of a kind physically, but is there a brain in that head? I wonder whats in the water at USC.....probably water, fish s**t and toddler piss pumped in from Myrtle Beach so it numbs the brain. Clowney has a great potential, but he has been looking in the mirror too long; he likes himself a whole lot. Hope he gets himself ready for a different level of competition. He wont have those easy Sports Center opps like the one tackle that made him a big name. We will see.

SOUP

Cool, thanks guys.

86Cane

The Hurricanes have made the most of in-state talent this spring. Several Sunshine State prospects picked Miami over other top-tier options in April.

Running back Dexter Williams (Orlando) committed to head coach Al Golden one week after visiting the Gators in Gainesville. Jordan Cronkrite (Miami), a 4-star athlete who has the makings of a standout safety, decided to stay home despite offers from Alabama, West Virginia and Clemson.

Defensive end Scott Patchan (Tampa) spurned offers from Florida State, UCLA and Stanford to join the Hurricanes' class. Miami added impressive tight end Bowman Archibold (Dade City), weeks after he added offers from Auburn, Oregon, Penn State and USC.

Golden reached beyond state borders for talented offensive tackle Hayden Mahoney (Malvern, Pennsylvania) in late March.

Ohio_Cane

Pete Ariz on Trayone Gray (Today, 9:54am): Miami still not expecting him to qualify

Ohio_Cane

FOX College Football ‏@CFBONFOX 2m

Alabama grocery store is now offering Jameis Winston King Crab Legs.-> http://foxs.pt/1iNTxTt photo via @mkimbaa pic.twitter.com/5fGs38c9PZ


Lol, this can't last long enough! Everyone and their mother is cracking jokes, and they're glorious.

Ohio_Cane

Rivals.com ‏@Rivals 22s

#Canes likely to make the top five cut for 4-star LB Quarte Sapp following recent visit to #Miami for spring game ($) http://ow.ly/wnao0

Ohio_Cane

WSVN-TV ‏@wsvn 24s

#BREAKING: There are reports of a bomb scare at Liberty City Elementary in Miami. School has been evacuated pic.twitter.com/mkRuP9AJF5

Ohio_Cane

Hmmmm, that doesn't say bomb "threat", it says bomb "scare". Does that mean there's something suspicious and not just a call telling them there is a bomb?

Go Canes

Anyone think the coaches turned down the Showtime gig?

If I had to guess I'd bet it was the administration. They have to be so gun shy of any exposure they can't control right now.

Ohio_Cane

If I had to guess I'd bet it was the administration. They have to be so gun shy of any exposure they can't control right now.

Posted by: Go Canes | May 01, 2014 at 02:07 PM
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This would be my first guess. And my second guess.

NativeCane

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARaHf8vBXTk

Reportedly this Orando man collared Jameis Winston after his seafood caper!

Dem Canes!!!

herbieibis

The Herb has been quiet for awhile reading but not posting. I do want to make a few comments about our 10 year D-mise. Goldie is not a bad recruiter, just not at the level I would expect. There are still to many recruits heading North, that we shouldn't be losing. getting one out of every five keeps stunting our growth or trending back up. We still lose games to teams that shouldn't be on the field with us. We don't blow teams out like we used too. Over the years , yeah we've had a coaching carousel and that doesn't help with stability but then again, it's been that way since the Herb has been a fan. We don't develop talent like we used to or should I say maybe we don't motivate the talent we do have. We do need a stadium, that's smaller in size and closer to campus but of course we used to go into our opponents stadium and make it our own and that doesn't happen to much any more.
It's sad to turn on the T.V. and see a half empty stadium when we play at home and then you turn on a SEC game and it's packed to the rafters. These ain't the old days, kids want to win, they want to play and they love eye candy. We can't get away with we are the "U" and when we show up your azz is ours anymore, we aren't feared. We still are a team that people love to hate but it doesn't help our cause when we get blown out and that too has happened way to often lately.
Golden, should of fired DENO but that's old news, so we have to hope a miracle happens, lord knows we are due for one.
We also haven't developed our QBs. Okay they've had their moments but none have been consistently good. now we have to start a R-Shirt, so what, how many times did it happen in the 80's, Walsh, Kosar, stepped right in but that was when we played to win, not to lose. All The Herb knows is I'm tired of waiting for this dam black cloud to lift. I'm ready for the worm to turn!

NativeCane

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Ppfffft! Here it is!

VA Cane

Yes and I cannot blame them for steering clear of such unnecessary hype. Too much has happened; we got by with some luck regarding the NCAA. It will not be lucky next time. No need to push the limits or test the waters. You know they want to nail us for something. I just think that kind of program is bad business. I really do not care for it anyway.

I think Winston has been one big fraud. He's been caught stealing twice now. After hearing all the evidence, others talking, the cover up and other stuff, is there any doubt he raped that girl? He is not so down home squeaky clean as portrayed by that school. He may be a good athlete, but I would love to see his grades. I mean his real grades not what FSU records at the Registrars Office.
The whole thing has a bad cloud over it; the truth has been concealed. JMO

Ohio_Cane

David Furones ‏@DavidFurones90 6m

Both David Thompson and Jim Morris expressed a greater deal of optimism in a return for Thompson than originally thought.

VA Cane

It's sad to turn on the T.V. and see a half empty stadium when we play at home and then you turn on a SEC game and it's packed to the rafters. These ain't the old days, kids want to win, they want to play and they love eye candy.

SEC game? How about SEC Spring Game? Thats the hurt right there. Alabama, LSU and well all the big teams that are contenders they pack the spring game. Its a big thing now and lets face it the kids love it.

Like I said, the winning may not pack the spring game, but it will solve a lot of problems. JMO

UMike

Amari Cooper said it best when he said "my desire to win outweighed my desire to stay home"

Go Canes

Thought he would go a little higher:

Kipp Adams‏@KippLAdams·2m
Mike Mayock says former #UCF RB Storm Johnson is a big back, that catches the football well, calls him a 5th round talent.

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