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July 12, 2014

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Lurker

I'd say you're basically clueless on this topic.

BEERicane

I'd say you are entirely clueless. And your reporting on Deng was like 4hrs late.

BEERicane

Boozer would be a huge help.

laquinton

Question, as I spend a lot of time at work bored and u YouTube Sean Taylor highlights... How did that man not win any awards in college ?? Or Ed Reed?

AfriCane

look! lets put everything in perspective. I have a problem with everyone thinking what LeBron did was fine' the whole fairy tale about him going back home. Dudu baked inside of pastry is still Dudu. if we are all fine with this then we have just officially approved the start of the era of 'me only' athlete. and san Antonio spurs marks the end of the era of the super team that sticks together. LeBron is all about Lebron. He is a self serving egomaniac. and we are praising him. how do you explain him signing only what amounts to a 1 year deal with even Cleveland where he went 'home' to? if it was really a decision bigger than bascketball, if it was really about north east ohio and the people there, then everyone must read into his one year contract with Cleveland as a bluff. or is it Leverage? if u r really going home, what need is there for leverage. leverage is a tool used in business. doing something from the heart needs nothing else but that, the heart.
Lebron james is a mercinery, lets face it. decision 2 is thought to be honorable. his contract says otherwise. which big star has really been from the town that houses the team they made great. there have been many stars that have come from impoverished towns/city. how many has gone back to play for their home town, city, or even state. its one thing to go back after your carrier to give back to your home town, or even give to a charity that helps that home town while the athlete is still playing. while it sounds honorable to go to ones home team. but whenever an athlete settles into a team that he/she plays for, he/she has essentially created a new home. that community looks up to the athlete. he becomes an ambassador for that community. in short, the athlete creates a new home. is the new home less worthy than the athlete's 1st home. are the people in the new home worth less than the athletes original home. how about all the kids that he inspired in Miami. what r we in Miami, the expendables? I guess Jordan, Magic, Shaq and co were not honorable for not playing for their home town.
last point: remember when Bill Walsh went back to coach college football at Stanford and at the news conference, he called it 'his bliss.' well, we all know how that ended up, 'un-blissful.' this move to Cleveland is not a 'happily ever after' story. the only team worse than the old clippers is Cleveland, perennial losers. lets see what happens when the losses start pilling up. in fact, I advise he start drafting decision 3 right now.

The Dude

Laquinton,

On the 2002 team, the only guy to win an award was Romberg. Dorsey? Nope. Andre? Nope. Vilma? Nope. McGahee? Nope. Dorsey and McGahee's votes combined didn't add up to the next guy for the Heisman. They hate us in the media. Some kid from Oklahoma won the Thorpe over Sean. Sean was the top defensive pick in the draft so, yeah, the media hates us.

Lurker

Ok beer, stick to malts & hops. Lol. I'm not a reporter, so I'm under no obligation to "report" news in a timely manner. Have a nice Sunday, and try to polish up that basketball analysis.

nemo2002

Does the Heat still have money available for Boozer?

BEERicane

Sure thing Lurker. You have brought a ton of valuable insight and analysis on the topic. Such a hypocritical loser, you are.

SOUP

So much LOVE 'round heya! LOL

SOUP

So what am I supposed to write about now?

VA Cane

On the 2002 team, the only guy to win an award was Romberg. Dorsey? Nope. Andre? Nope. Vilma? Nope. McGahee? Nope. Dorsey and McGahee's votes combined didn't add up to the next guy for the Heisman. They hate us in the media. Some kid from Oklahoma won the Thorpe over Sean. Sean was the top defensive pick in the draft so, yeah, the media hates us.

They do not like the U; we won and whipped ass too much. I was never big on the talk stuff, the SWAG, but you got to remember these were young excitable kids winning and having fun. That was the times. Yes we didn't win any awards.

We won a title and had one quick call no called for the 2nd!!!!!

We all know that was the best college team ever!!!! No doubt!!!!!

Lurker

Beer, cool it.

When you spout off with ridiculous comments like "fire Spoelstra" and 'Riley sucks, fire Riley" - you're going to get heat, unless you can come up with a reasoned articulate argument as to why that opinion would make sense. You haven't.

If your justification is "here's what Stephen A Smith had to say" you lose the argument on general principles. Go have another beer and chill.

BEERicane

I gave several reasons actually. Go back and read for yourself. All you do is try to criticize my position as being absurd and then keep trying to dig without offering a counter point/addressing the issue at hand other than living in the past (like the majority of Canes fans). So you, sir, are the one who has failed to articulate a stance. Therefore, I continue, you hypocritical idiot.

BEERicane

Wow. Heat just resigned Chalmers to a 2yr deal. This is. It helping change my opinion...

Go Canes

LeBron didn't care for Riley? Wouldn't let his homies sit near the bench and was mad about Miller?

If any of that factored into his leaving, I just lost every ounce of respect I had for him.

BEERicane

You know, GC. I sure gotta agree with you on that. He took his ball and went home.

The Dude

Posted by: BEERicane | July 13, 2014 at 06:22 PM

Its a 2 year deal and it looks like the Heat want another reset in 2016. I don't understand it because they drafted Napier and are going after Jameer Nelson. 4 PGs with Wade as a 2. I wonder if Ray Allen will come back to back up Wade. That would give us 6 Guards. Deng at the wing with Granger and Jones make 9. McRoberts, Bosh and Haslem make 12. Still need a C and we are going after Anderson. Oden might make 14.

Surfercane

Go Canes, go read Lebron's letter he explains why he left, plain and simple. Don't listen to the knucklehead Stephan A Smith. On a happy note The Heat's roaster is coming together nicely post Lebron!

Go heat Go Canes Go Miami!!!!!!!!!

SOUP

Go have another beer and chill.

Posted by: Lurker | July 13, 2014 at 06:16 PM

That is the BEST advice I have read in a LONG time.

SOUP

Go Canes, go read Lebron's letter he explains why he left, plain and simple.

Posted by: Surfercane | July 13, 2014 at 06:56 PM

NEGATIVE.

That is the politically correct, protect the BRAND letter. Do NOT believe a WORD of it.

SOUP

Does the Heat still have money available for Boozer?

Posted by: nemo2002 | July 13, 2014 at 05:54 PM

I do not think that the Heat is gonna sign either OGV or Raizecane, so that is clearly OUT.

Lurker

Therefore, I continue, you hypocritical idiot.

Posted by: BEERicane | July 13, 2014 at 06:20 PM

Your posts are a tribute to inebriated imbecility.

Here are all the facts you need to know:

9 rings
Last 4 years: 4 finals, 2 NBA championships
Another Heat NBA championship prior to that
In 19 seasons with the Heat, only missed playoffs twice.

Keep up with the personal insults if you like, but those facts simply speak for themselves.

Now since you're such a brilliant NBA strategist, march yourself to the Heat and demand they fire Riley and Spoelstra and hire you as coach and GM

Surfercane

I do believe him man. Sure his boys were a little put off, they were being childish. Can't sit by bench just stop. Riley and the Heat are FIRST class all the way! I wish Lebron luck, unless he is playing against us. I really like Josh McRoberts and Loul Deng. Starting five Bosh, McRoberts, Deng, Wade and Chalmers not bad. We will be a top 4 seed in the East come playoffs, barring injures.

SOUP

Now since you're such a brilliant NBA strategist, march yourself to the Heat and demand they fire Riley and Spoelstra and hire you as coach and GM

Posted by: Lurker | July 13, 2014 at 07:04 PM

Yeah, so I do NOT think that is going to happen?

SOUP

Surfer...please do NOT be naive.

BEERicane

Lurker, you are proving my point by living in the past. Also please keep in mind you were the one who stirred the coals.

Riley did a miserable job with the roster this year. Has us on the path toward mediocrity these next few years. He is in salvage mode right now (Bosh way over paid) and we have no real shot to rebuild for the foreseeable future. This will become abundantly clear when we overpay Wade (but the guy does need to retire in a heat uniform and has certainly earned that). Will we make the playoffs? Yup. But only because we play in the east. We would be a lottery team in the west (which is actually preferable as lottery picks are essentially protected and our only shot to get in he draft).

Here is a fact. Riley just signed the worst PG in the league.

Go Canes

The difference between Riley and everyone else is we will lose LeBron, the greatest player on earth by far, and will still make the playoffs and likely have at least one round of the playoffs at home.

The Lakers lose Kobe? Lottery. Celts lose Garnett and Pierce? Lottery. Cavs lose LeBron? Lottery, lottery, lottery, lottery. Knicks WITH Melo? Lottery. T-wolves WITH Love? Lottery every year.

The list is endless.

Beer please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

SinisterCane

Does the Heat still have money available for Boozer?

Posted by: nemo2002 | July 13, 2014 at 05:54 PM


I'll sign for the league minimum and just sit there and drink al Gatorade all year

The Dude

1. PG - Chalmers
2. PG - Cole
3. PG - Napier
4. SG - Wade (Assumption)
5. SF - Deng
6. SF - Granger
7. PF - Bosh
8. PF - McRoberts
9. PF - Haslem (Assumption)

As of right now that's who's official correct?

Go Canes

If they amnesty Boozer they still have to pay him. His salary will be much, much lower than it would be otherwise.

The Dude

I'll sign for the league minimum and play for 2 minutes to replace LeBron. That way Deng doesn't have to be the guy that replaced the guy. I'll take that burden on for the team.

Go Canes

I think they deal Cole for more cap space now that they're resigning Napier.

SinisterCane

Also, Stephen A reported that LBJ didn't really care for Riley. Was too controlling, didn't have the vision. Mad about Miller. Wouldn't let his friends sit near the heat bench and made them sit at other end of court, etc...

Posted by: BEERicane | July 13, 2014 at 05:09 PM

I guess the Heat's Organization structure was far more damaging then Gilbert's Hate filled letter. Riley didn't give F@@K about LeBron's camp....In Miami they were just LeBron di@k riders but back in Cleveland they'll be treated like Gods

RCCF

Im sorry I think Im lost but can someone point me in the direction of CANESPACE where we CANE allday? I think I took a wrong turn at Albequerque as I am here at Heatspace and I don't like it....ESPN is talking enough about PLEASE stop....can we talk CANES Who cares about LeBron moving home...if you didn't see that coming you are blind now move on...there is only one Nation in Miami anyway I know that and I don't even live there....nothing about the Heat would make someone want to play there the team support by fans is minimal and you are by far the WORST bandwagon nation in the league....not even 10% of the fan base knows who Rony Seikaly or Sherman Douglass are...so as far as NBA goes SeeRED and stop talking about that madness on CANESPACE....CANE ON..

RCCF12%

The Dude

LeBron left because LeBron is kinda delusional. He wanted Miami to sign the Men's Olympic team while managing to fit it all under the cap. LeBron is also a quitter who bails when he doesn't get his way. I'd rather be Miami dealing with losing him after winning 2 championships than not winning any at all. Yeah, Oden and Beasley added up to nothing but who else was available and ready to sign minimum contracts?

The Dude

Well the article is about LeBron RCCF.

Surfercane

RCCF it's July bro, lol. Absolutely the most quite time of the offseason. Heat news is hot right now.

BEERicane

GC,

Why do you see avoiding the lottery every year and stuffing your roster full of players past their prime as a positive? I guess you think the Yankees are good.

BEERicane

I guess the Heat's Organization structure was far more damaging then Gilbert's Hate filled letter. Riley didn't give F@@K about LeBron's camp....In Miami they were just LeBron di@k riders but back in Cleveland they'll be treated like Gods
Posted by: SinisterCane | July 13, 2014 at 07:50 PM

Great point. Lebron went back to an owner who publicly lambasted him and kept that letter up on their website until the day he signed. How messed up is that?

Also, Granger and McRoberts aren't officially signed (still negotiating)

The Dude

BEER,

What your suggesting is we tank? Is next season the season to tank? Who's so good in the draft that it'll be worth doing? I like what Riley is doing. We will be ready for the big FAs in 2016.

The Dude

*you're suggesting*

BEERicane

GC likes soccer because he believed in the value and message of 3rd place matches (and ties).

#MoralVictory
#ParticipationRibbion
#F-thatParticipationTrophy

I espouse the philosophy of 2nd place is the first loser. But that's just me.

The Dude

What Riley is doing is giving us a small shot at a championship next year and the year after. In 2016 he'll try and get us a great shot. Tanking gives us no shot and no guarantees that anyone good is coming out of college or that we'll get our pick of the litter.

BEERicane

Not suggesting that at all. I like the FAs that are being brought in as patch work. But I hate that CB contract. That was a huge mistake IMO.

BEERicane

Even when the roster is full, we will have 2 less sets of knees (Wade, Granger)

The Dude

Maybe it is but what was the other option? We may have overpaid to save the ship but it looks like its not getting in the way of anything right now or next year, to me, that looks like the plan. 2 years with this group, maybe renegotiate with Bosh, land the big fish KD, build around him for 4 years until he wants to go back to OKC, lol.

The Dude

Let's just HOPE for a healthy Wade/Granger BEER.

Dan

This thread proves once again that the NBA is more discussed and more interesting in the off season than during the season.

The Dude

That's funny Dan.

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