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September 02, 2014

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Go Canes

UMIke I saw Kenny Dorsey look like a deer in the headlights at Va Tech his first game and grow from it.

Saw Bernie get throttled 28-3 by the Gators his first start. He looked pretty good after that game didnt he?

I wonder if Canespace was around back then if they both would have been benched and Howard and Butch fired.

I have a feeling I know the answer to that question.

I'll ask one final question and go away.

If Kaaya improves as expected, do we win last night with a game six version of him instead of the game one guy we just saw?

Think of all the missed opportunities, errant throws and conservative play calling from last night then add 150 throws worth of improvement to his resume and decide.

UMike

Go Canes.. thats all well and good, but they have better coaches..

Ohio.. not saying it is a gimmie, but at least he already hit one and we were within his range and we probably had a better chance at the 3 than picking up 4 yards. You take the 3 when you have a chance.

Go Canes.. you want to talk about missed opportunities.. what about the 3 wide open dropped passes by Louisville that would of been 1st downs lol

UMike

They talk all this shyt about how Kaaya isnt a freshman QB, that he is the UM QB and how he acts 30, and how he wasnt just managing but attacking... and then the game comes and you treat him like a true freshman.... stop selling us on the BS

Ohio_Cane

Did Heurtelou ever come back after getting injured in the 1st quarter? He was playing well.

UMike

Ohio.. Idk.. but he was going a good job

Cane Since 1982

UMike

That is exactly what I was thinking. I hated the way the coaches were doing everything to hide him from having to make throws, but were then forced to let him throw when it was 3rd and long. 3rd and long and ULs D knows its a passing down, sends pressure and forces him into making shitty throws. That is would we have to evaluate Kaaya on is forced throws against pressure.

The coaches did nothing to let him open up and make passes when the D wasnt expecting it.

CaneRock

Did Heurtelou ever come back after getting injured in the 1st quarter? He was playing well.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | September 02, 2014 at 12:40 PM

Yes.

Go Canes

He started the third quarter.

And CR I assume you are talking about me with your personal insults.

Grow up buddy, it's just a sports blog.

CaneRock

^^^^^^^^^^ DUMASS!, answer the question...when's the last time we've had a TRUE FRESHMAN QB win in Blacksburg...

longtimecanefan

We had 8 months after the bowl blow out to prepare and yet we lose to the same team almost as badly...

What's worse is this game is the one we had the most time to prepare for all season....

CaneRock

I swear, long as I've been watching UM football, this is the only coaching staff where we've had DUMASSES! try to muffle the noise. And this is the only coaching staff, who has lulled the fanbase into believing that it's OK NOT to beat FSU...SMMFH!

longtimecanefan

No 2 cents, we have no real idea how good or bad Kaaya is....the supporting cast around him offers little support...

Ohio_Cane

Writer for CIS:

Well, I'm posting a few hours after what is a disappointing( to say the least) opener in Louisville for the 2014 edition of the Miami Hurricanes, who fell to the Cardinals( again) 31-13. Here are a few random thoughts as I begin my weekly in-season blog:

- Brad Kaaya, a true freshman QB making his first career start on the road, looked exactly like that. There were key errors( such as the lateral to Stace Coley inside the 10 yard line) and inaccurate throws( his INT in the 3rd quarter is a touchdown to Standish Dobard if he leads him towards the UM sideline). But at times he flashed some promise and I think Miami needs to go with the kid the rest of the season. Bottom line, there is no real future or upside in Jake Heaps or Ryan Williams who are both on the last years of their respective eligibility.

This shouldn't be a total surprise, we all remember Ken Dorsey being shaky in Seattle in 2000, Gino Toretta's rough outing at Tallahassee in 1989 and Bernie Kosar in Gainesville in 1983. All quarterbacks will have growing pains.

With that said, my greatest fear was that the offensive staff was going to play ultra-conservative and keep putting the offense in 3rd and long. Well, yeah, that's precisely what they did. The most cringe-worthy sequence dialed up by offensive coordinator James Coley was the two opening drives to open the second half when Miami was down just 14-10 and the defense playing well. They went with six- yes, six- consecutive running plays that failed to move the chains. David Pollack of ESPN I think expressed the frustration of the Canes fan base with that play-calling. Yeah, I'm all for establishing the run, but what did Einstein say was the definition of insanity?

If you were afraid to let Kaaya man the offense, then he shouldn't have been named the starter. Bottom line.

Here's a stat tweeted out by Tim Reynolds( @TimReynolds) that is very eye-opening: "Among nuggets in the stat roll: Kaaya was 14-17 on first- and second-down, 3-12 on third- and fourth-down."

- OK, these next two points might be connected; but the O-line play was a concern of mine and once again, like the bowl game, the Ville bullied Miami upfront and while Duke Johnson put up decent numbers( 20 carries, 90 yards) for most of the night he was bottled upfront and Kaaya was constantly harassed. What is off particular frustration is that they keep on insisting on running these long, slow developing run plays that got eaten up by the quick, attacking Cards front. And is Art Kehoe a sacred cow? It's a looooong ways from 2001 and when it comes to quality opponents, it just seems that versus quality teams our line fails to play with any real leverage and fails to get a consistent push. Admittedly, I'm not Tony Wise or Hudson Houck but that's what these slanted eyes of mine see.

- Which then gets me to my next point, perhaps the failing of the running game and the run blocking has to do with the fact that runs were stubbornly called against a defense that was willing to load the box and come downhill( just as they did against Miami last December in the bowl game) perhaps those plays really had no chance to succeed. So perhaps the lack of execution has something to do with the offensive concept put forth. Those two can often be intertwined.

But beyond that, is Miami really employing it's talent correctly? Think about it, you have Duke Johnson( a blue-chip talent but certainly not considered a bruising, 'big' back), a fleet set of wideouts and a solid senior tight end in Clive Walford and a line that isn't great at run blocking. Miami - or perhaps Al Golden - has a vision of being a pounding, pro-style offense ala 'Bama, only problem is that they aren't nearly as proficient and creating push upfront as the Crimson Tide. Which is fine, there is more than one way to skin a cat. While the rest of the country has gone spread, up-tempo and worries more about total plays than time of possession, Miami is stuck in what now seems like an antiquated way of playing offense. You think Art Briles wouldn't put up huge numbers with this talent?

Today's college, well even the NFL, is all about offense, a throw game, a race to 50 points. Miami seems to be stuck playing this rather methodical offensive system that doesn't fully utilize it's vast array of offensive weapons.

The spread can come in many forms and it can work with guys who can run around and do the read-option or pocket types. But it's about pacing and getting rid of the ball quickly to your playmakers out in space. They certainly don't waste time on stretch plays that do nothing more than get you into 3rd and oh-no!! I thought the game planning and play calling on Monday tonight were very suspect.

- Stacy Coley is a prodigious talent but tonight I got that Lance Leggett vibe from him in this contest. He simply wasn't as tough as he needed to be at times and didn't finish off plays. Perhaps that opening shot he took from James Burgess Jr. played a role in that. But in his defense, while he had success last year on quick screens and the like, again, this Louisville defensive unit was crowding the line of scrimmage and really attacking and like the bowl game, Coley's was a non-factor. At one point he had three catches for all of 9 yards. Shouldn't his skill set be utilized for getting upfield and stretching the field?

- Going back to play-calling( as this just came to me, because quite frankly, I wanted to expunge it from my memory) but that 3rd and goal, end-round, throw-back option play to Dorsett was just pure...well, I have no words to describe it. It literally left me speechless and I had to take a long guzzle of my Heineken to calm my nerves. Good grief, the Jarrett Payton half-back option that was housed by VaTech in 2002, was a better call than that atrocity.

- Gus Edwards is not a short-yardage back. He simply runs too high and takes too long to get started. I think Joseph Yearby needs to get his touches sooner, rather than later.

- I worry about our kicking game. Losing Pat O'Donnell is a huge loss but beyond that, UM doesn't have anyone that can kick the ball into the end zone. Just a bad night for the special teams tonight, you had Coley fielding a punt inside the 5( a cardinal sin, no pun intended) and the KO return from Corbin Lamb that shifted the games momentum after Miami had taken a 10-7 lead.

- Defensively, honestly, I thought this unit played fairly well. They created two turnovers inside the ten( which amounted to all of 3 points which is inexcusable) and until the end, kept UM in the game Like many others, I wish Mark D'onofrio would bring more pressures and allow what is a deep and talented secondary to play a bit more tight man coverage.

- I liked what I saw from Ufomba Kamalu, 'the Big Heurtelou' upfront, along with Chick and Tyriq McCord. Thought they did some disruptive things and were active. The real standout was Denzel Perryman on defense, for much of the night he played at an All-American level before getting worn down late in the 4th as the Ville marched down the field and put the nail in Miami's coffin. This is where the lack of linebacker depth really showed. It's clear, guys like Darrion Owens and Juwon Young need to see the field out of pure necessity to create some much-needed depth.

- Al Golden, you're on the clock, year four of your reign and it's time. Right now, Miami is 0-1 and it looks to have two very winnable games before heading up to Lincoln to face top 25 Nebraska. This opener was not necessarily a 'must win' game but won that was certain vital in terms of creating confidence and erasing the memories of last years fade. I read on Twitter that Miami has now lost five of its last seven( three to unranked teams) and the margin of those defeats - which quite frankly I don't want to look up - is alarming.

This staff is great at recruiting and creating a buzz for the program on social media but the other half of the deal is delivering on game day. Right now, they are sorely lacking. The much talked about 'cloud'( which personally I thought was very valid) is no longer hovering over the program and there is an expectation of meeting certain standards such as winning the Coastal. And Monday night, was a bad start against a team that had lost Teddy Bridgewater, a couple of first round draft choices on defense and was breaking in a new staff.

Bum Phillips once said that the greatness of Don Shula was that,"he could take his and beat yours and take yours and beat his," for as unsavory as Bobby 'Olive Garden' Petrino might be to some, I think at the college level that applies to him. I don't think anyone, as of this moment, would say that about Golden and his staff.

Yeah, the future might be bright, but this is potentially the last year that Duke, Philip Dorsett, Walford, Rashawn Scott, Erik Flowers, Perryman, Chickillo, among others. This can't be another rebuilding year or a part of the process. This type of talent in the ACC should do something significant, right?

- What's the over/under for the FAMU home opener with this loss? 20,000?

- Well, that's all I have to say about this game. Regardless, thanks to DMoney for allowing me to do this and always,"Lets go Canes''...

RCCF

CR Totally Agree....STOP BLAMING OUR KIDS...BLAME YOURSELF

Nittanies Can NOT Coach CANES

Especially those taught by Sandusky!!

RCCF

Canesteeler

Google the article Jason Whitlock wrote on Golden when the U hired him. Damn he knew something we didn't !

raizecane

1. How many people can fit into the 9% limo?

2. Will they let us 12% bus riders join them anyway?

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Funniest article to date....short and to the point.

to answer the questions above.....

1) We will make room for anyone willing to ride along.

2) the 9% limo motto is the same as the marine motto..."leave no canespacer behind". However, you will here us say "I told you so" about 20 times..... :-)

RCCF

Im just gonna continue to ride on my broken bus....mad at our lack of Defensive Coordinator..

RCCF

longtimecanefan

I read on Twitter that Miami has now lost five of its last seven( three to unranked teams) and the margin of those defeats - which quite frankly I don't want to look up - is alarming.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | September 02, 2014 at 12:54 PM

There IT is right there...this team is not improving....

TonyCane

Google the article Jason Whitlock wrote on Golden when the U hired him. Damn he knew something we didn't !

Posted by: Canesteeler | September 02, 2014 at 12:57 PM

I did. There were some very prescient comments, made before the NCAA mess:

"So Golden isn't likely to light the world on fire in his first year. What about 2012?

No. That window I mentioned above? 2011 is the last year it will be open for a few years. After 2011 Miami loses a ton of talent (21 seniors, including 13 starters and many other important reserves). And while many teams lose talent and replace it with more veteran talent, the Canes simply don't have the young players on their roster to do that. Why? Shannon's recruiting steadily declined after 2008, including a really poor effort in 2010 when he took an amazing number of scrubs after Miami wouldn't let him take the higher-rated players with lesser academic qualifications. It was a well-chronicled desperation move by Shannon to grab more players and improve the rating of his class on the recruiting sites. But Golden is stuck with those players nobody else wanted.

And what of the 2011 class that will sign in less than 50 days? Shannon left Golden with three commitments, one of which is not expected to qualify. Per Golden, zero of the commits are currently in the top 30 in the state. There is zero chance of Golden bringing in a class that is in the same stratosphere as those of FSU or UF, who already has an excellent class for Will Muschamp to maintain. The 2012 team won't have much if any help from talented sophomores, because the talent won't be coming this year.

While most teams do improve in the second year under a new head coach, Miami will be experiencing a talent drain in Golden's second year. That's a pretty unusual circumstance for a new head coach.

Perhaps Golden can remedy the problem via the JUCO circuit? Unlikely. Miami doesn't let in too many JUCO players under the current administration."

And the most prescient comment of them all:

"The Canes do have the potential to be quite good again in 2014, but only if Golden nails the 2012 and 2013 recruiting classes."

CaneRock

TonyCane...put all that recruiting talk to the side for a moment. Here's the real question...When UM finally has "symmetry", will Golden & staff ever have what it takes to BEAT FSU?!

TonyCane

TonyCane...put all that recruiting talk to the side for a moment. Here's the real question...When UM finally has "symmetry", will Golden & staff ever have what it takes to BEAT FSU?!

Posted by: CaneRock | September 02, 2014 at 01:24 PM

I'll answer your question momentarily. I think that ultimately the loss to Louisville was a matter of timing. Barring an exceptional run of injuries, Miami would probably beat Louisville if they played in Week 8 onward. The UCLA victory that we all remember probably would not have occurred had it taken place at the beginning of the season as originally scheduled. The younger Canes team of 1998 got the experience needed to defeat the Bruins. With Ryan Williams and running a normal offense, we might have beaten the Cardinals last night. Putting a true freshmen in game one with a conservative offense...the odds were against us. That said, I was extremely disappointed with our offensive line play. Whether Kayaa, Williams, Heaps, or Olsen, that has to get better.

As for when do we get good enough to beat FSU, to be honest it's about the same time as it will take to get good enough to defeat a Saban led Alabama. Because they have about the same talent level. When Miami can get a minimum of twelve 4 and 5 star players for FOUR consecutive years, then we're on even terms. Realistically, our next most realistic shot will come in 2016.

2014: (L) two to three touchdowns
2015: (L) competitive road game with FSU pulling ahead late. FSU will be weaker and Miami will have a more talented roster with a sophomore Kayaa.
2016: Talent levels will be much closer, and this will be the first time since 2010 that Miami will have a good shot at winning.

We have to accept that during the bad recruiting classes of 2010 and 2011, and during the NCAA investigation of 2012 and 2013, FSU took great advantage in recruiting. Just as they did in the 90s during the Pell Grant situation. They have 48 four and five star players. We have 26, which still makes us one of the top teams in the ACC. But it's a gap.

So when Golden and co have a fully restored roster - which they are two years away from accomplishing - can they beat FSU? I hope so.

UMike

2 years away????? PHUCK THAT!!!! They have talent right now!!. Enough talent to beat Louisville with a whole new staff, missing their best player and starting RB and they lost a first round QB smdh

Montreal-Cane

I have said it for years the U needs a great QB coach...Coley play calling...he was scared...Kehoe your OL will get Kaaya injured...What a terrible game for Isidora...On the positive Ambrister, Perryman, Chicks and Pierre played well.

Montreal-Cane

Manny Navarro on WQAM today made some really good points...

http://wqam.com/2014/09/02/manny-navarro-8/

Sarasota 'cane

Bobby Petrino would have beat UL if he were coaching the canes. The Al Golden era ended last night. How long will it take to make him go away??

CaneRock

TonyCane...good run-down. But I still think if Butch, or somebody equal or better were the coach, they would've recruited better under the cloud. Let's not get it twisted, "the cloud" wasn't the only reason kids didn't want to come here...

The Dude

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | September 02, 2014 at 01:46 PM

2019. I'm sorry, but that's what I think.

Project HC, learning on the job. Not an innovator in any way shape or form. Would probably be an okay DC at best because he could recruit a lot of guys and get them in shape but would never out-coach anyone. He can't see his schemes are flawed and believes in them because as he said they worked once a long time ago.

dj moonbat

Good coaches field good football teams.

Most of us saw Oklahoma State keep Florida State nervous the other day. Oklahoma State hasn't exactly been tearing up the recruiting trail. Miami consistently bags higher-rated classes.

Who among us believes that Miami could have gone out this weekend and put the scare in FSU like that?

Mike Gundy is a good coach.

The Dude

Posted by: CaneRock | September 02, 2014 at 01:54 PM

At some point, to get all those 4 and 5 star kids, you have to win with the 3 star kids. Al consistently can't beat teams he has more talent than.

TonyCane,

What makes you believe Al can beat top teams with top talent if he cant beat middle of the road talented teams with lets say upper middle/lower top talent?

The Dude

Posted by: dj moonbat | September 02, 2014 at 01:59 PM

BINGO.

CaneRock

Nothing against Kaaya, but at some point, we're gonna have to put Rosier in there to use His athleticism. The zone read would've been useful last night.

SinisterCane


2 years away????? PHUCK THAT!!!! They have talent right now!!. Enough talent to beat Louisville with a whole new staff, missing their best player and starting RB and they lost a first round QB smdh

Posted by: UMike | September 02, 2014 at 01:41 PM

You haven't heard? Your not allowed to judge Golden until 2015 LOL SMH LOL

CaneRock

And why are people surprised at the O-Line play...I've been tellin' ya'll that the right side of the line was a concern. Not from a talent standpoint, but from an experience standpoint. It wasn't gonna be easy to replace the talent & experience of Henderson & Linder.

CaneRock

You haven't heard? Your not allowed to judge Golden until 2015 LOL SMH LOL

Posted by: SinisterCane | September 02, 2014 at 02:09 PM

LMAO! Maaaaan, every year's been Golden's "1st year" since 2010!

longtimecanefan

bottom line is other coaches win with far less talent than the U....

the coaching countdown clock started ticking last night....

beware, Arkansas St is not the gimme people think....and that clock could gain alot of speed with an unexpected loss...

The Dude

beware, Arkansas St is not the gimme people think....and that clock could gain alot of speed with an unexpected loss...

Posted by: longtimecanefan | September 02, 2014 at 02:21 PM

^^^ Yup. ^^^

Ohio_Cane

I promise each and every one of U, if we lose to or only win by 10 or so points vs Ark St and FAMU, I'll lead the charge to fire Golden and Co.

UMike

So thats how far we have come.. we should accept beating FAMU or Ark St by 10.. thats the bar? lol... so if we beat them by 11 or 14, thats ok? haha

Ohio_Cane

Where should I draw the line? 50? 60?

UMike

Ohio..IDK... but 10??? lol

The Dude

Posted by: UMike | September 02, 2014 at 02:24 PM

He said 10 or so. I read that to mean if we struggle, Golden is done.

LQ

Phillip Buchanon is going in on twitter

The Dude

Posted by: LQ | September 02, 2014 at 02:29 PM

Post comments?

The Dude

Phillip Buchanon @PhillipBuchanon · 21m

The Defensive lineman are in offensive lineman stance, watch the film. We are not fundamentally sound on counters.

The Dude

Phillip Buchanon @PhillipBuchanon · 20m

No Re-routing in this weak *** 3-4 defense go back to the 4-3 defense.

CaneRock

Post comments?

Posted by: The Dude | September 02, 2014 at 02:30 PM

Phillip Buchanon @PhillipBuchanon · 43m
Folden is not getting the job done as a head coach or special teams coach.

https://twitter.com/PhillipBuchanon

LQ

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2010/12/14/1875977/canes-hire-of-al-golden-may-signal-the-u-isnt-in-it-to-win-it

Here it is

SinisterCane


I promise each and every one of U, if we lose to or only win by 10 or so points vs Ark St and FAMU, I'll lead the charge to fire Golden and Co.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | September 02, 2014 at 02:22 PM


Vault It

dj moonbat

I promise each and every one of U, if we lose to or only win by 10 or so points vs Ark St and FAMU, I'll lead the charge to fire Golden and Co.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | September 02, 2014 at 02:22 PM


Vault It

Posted by: SinisterCane | September 02, 2014 at 02:49 PM


We got this.

WWIN

I sat beside Vaughn Telemaque at the game last night, Jordan Bridges came to join us at halftime. Seen players parents. I Just talked to OGV.

Lurker, why were you not at the game yesterday since you go to every game??

Will give my perspective shortly! Lol

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