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September 05, 2014

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UMike

#BeatFAMU

UMike

SOUP... by comparison I've been pretty normal lately haha

86Cane

#BeatFAMU

86Cane

UMike...yes, why yes indeed. I see U have your minions doing all your dyrty work for U? LOL

86Cane

I will say this though, after reading the blog through last night there was some VERY good and also some VERY funny blogging going on.

Like I tell people all the time when they ask me "How's the blog doing?" I say if Miami does REALLY good or REALLY bad it doesn't matter the blog kills. It is only when they do so-so that it slows down!

UMike

86.. they have just come to see what I saw all along haha

Surfercane

Let's go Canes!

30CINCO

#BeatFAMU

UMike

I think its completely normal to have some hate (unless you are a complete Golden lover).. we all poor our time, money, energy, effort and more importantly emotion into our Canes... after so many heartbreaks its normal for hate to spring up.

dj moonbat

So, do we think the game plan for FAMU will allow Kaaya to put on his big-boy pants?

TonyCane

I understand the anger. I hate any loss. And what I have not seen is anyone defending the coaching outright. The Golden "defenders" simply argue for more time or to consider extenuating circumstances. But we all want to win and see Miami restored. Everyone needs to calm down

86Cane

we all poor our time, money, energy, effort and more importantly emotion into our Canes...

Posted by: UMike | September 05, 2014 at 08:33 AM.

I think we can all agree with that and that NOBODY does it more than me, right? And I call it as I see it (See "Dumpster Fire" as RaizeCane LOL for the 10th time) but eventually U have to get over it (over yourself?) and move on. Yes, it is improtant and it means alot and it is frustrating and disappointing but it is ONLY sports after all.

86Cane

So, do we think the game plan for FAMU will allow Kaaya to put on his big-boy pants?

Posted by: dj moonbat | September 05, 2014 at 08:40 AM

I sure hope so because if I spend $300, drive 3 hours each way, sit in the hot sun and then get disappointed by UM vs FAMU there is no telling what I might say on the next blog. It could make "Dumpster Fire" look tame by comparison.

CaneRock

SOUP...seriously, you need to be a teacher.

dj moonbat

The Golden "defenders" simply argue for more time or to consider extenuating circumstances. But we all want to win and see Miami restored. Everyone needs to calm down

Posted by: TonyCane | September 05, 2014 at 08:41 AM


Look, I've said this before, and I'll probably have to say it again. You Golden apologists feel besieged here (and perhaps on other blogs), but you don't need to "argue for more time or to consider extenuating circumstances."

There's only one audience that matters for those arguments -- the UM administration -- and that audience has firmly taken YOUR side on the issue. Al's got a contract that runs until 2019, and they'll have to get really, really fed up with him to buy out more than two or three of those years.

We're just a bunch of Internet yahoos blowing off steam, because otherwise the pain will consume us. We pose zero threat to Al Golden's career at UM.

So, given that your recommended course of action is the actual, official UM course of action, why can't you guys just let us be angry? Why the constant need to show us the importance of the 2015/16 recruiting classes? Why all the reminders that Al has been recruiting under a Cloud of Uncertainty? Why the links to videos of FSU playing a 3-4 defense? Why, why, why?

You won. Why can't you just be satisfied with that, and let us be unsatisfied with our loss?

SinisterCane

Believe in the Process

86Cane

SOUP...seriously, you need to be a teacher.

Posted by: CaneRock | September 05, 2014 at 08:50 AM

That is one of the BEST compliments I have ever received.

86Cane

Moonbat...angry is as angry does. Be careful with that stuff it is dangerous!

dj moonbat

Moonbat...angry is as angry does. Be careful with that stuff it is dangerous!

Posted by: 86Cane | September 05, 2014 at 08:58 AM


Yeah, I've gotten to the point where I need to do a couple rails of angry before I can even get out of bed in the morning.

Ohio_Cane

So, do we think the game plan for FAMU will allow Kaaya to put on his big-boy pants?

Posted by: dj moonbat | September 05, 2014 at 08:40 AM
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If he can't do it now, I don't see any time this year when he will.

Ohio_Cane

Very first play should be play action to duke and hitting Coley or Dorsett deep. I'll be disappointed if it's not.

SinisterCane

Brick By Brick

UMike

Very first play should be play action to duke and hitting Coley or Dorsett deep. I'll be disappointed if it's not.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | September 05, 2014 at 09:06 AM

Probably a swing pass to Coley lol

Ohio_Cane

Probably a swing pass to Coley lol

Posted by: UMike | September 05, 2014 at 09:08 AM
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I'll punch something.

UMike

deep ball should of been the first play Monday

UMike

I like A&M's offense.. ball comes out very quick and they use ALL their playmakers

Go Canes

DJ don't let the Darkside take you over.

We are all annoyed and frustrated, but you always had great humor, insight and perspective. Always enjoyed that.

Ranting angry guy just isn't your style.

dj moonbat

Ranting angry guy just isn't your style.

Posted by: Go Canes | September 05, 2014 at 09:17 AM


You should've seen me back when I was drinkin'.

pbcfrcane13

Umike I was sooooo hoping that would be the play. That's what I would have called. So lville your hear to play!

UMike

I was ok with the swing pass on 1st down..that was the same play A&M called to get their rookie QB going. But we never really attempted to take a shot and we all now Kaaya has the arm for it. I think we will hit a few deeps balls tomorrow.... hopefully lol. I just hope we have more creativity since we have so many players that can make things happen at all positions. Also, has there EVER been a play where Gus is in that wasnt a run? If us fans know that Im sure the opposing DC knows lol

SinisterCane

I think we should be more worried about goal line defense scheme rather than a 4-3/3-4 debate

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwsbJ6LIgAAQvVJ.jpg

On a 4th and 1 look how far the safetys/LB's are playing off the LOS

dj moonbat

Also, has there EVER been a play where Gus is in that wasnt a run? If us fans know that Im sure the opposing DC knows lol

Posted by: UMike | September 05, 2014 at 09:27 AM


Yes, but Gus is such an unstoppable running machine, it doesn't matter that they know it's coming.

Lurker

The first play last game, next game, or any games doesn't matter. Sometimes with a green QB, like a kid who 3 months ago was at his high school prom, you want so short sure pass to calm him down, give him confidence, and let him shake the nervousness off.

What matters is what plays you call in the flow of the game.

Last week the offensive playcalling was poor because if what was called in the entirety of the game. If the defense dares you to throw because of their calls and formation, you have to be willing to call plays to stretch that in the flow of the game.

It's about the playcalling the entirety of the game.

SinisterCane

Gus should be moved to FB, I've never seen a BIG RB get knocked on his A$$ as much as Gus

UMike

Lurker.. I agree..seems Coley doesnt have a good feel for it... like calling certain plays to combat a certain defense... almost like he is just calling to see what works like its Madden lol

UMike

Was it last year where we had formation with Gus at RB and Lewis spread wide? I must of seen this formation 50 times during the season and every time was the same play. I mean, that is optimist league stuff lol

UMike

That is why I like A&M's offense.. they went on the road with a rookie QB (not a true freshman I know) and they called a great game against a good defense. They used all their weapons, I think like 11 different players caught passes or some crazy number and the timing of the plays was great. They used USCe's aggressive D against them.

trianglecane

I hope the first play is to duke off of 74's hip... to the house. He deserves it!

I hope dorsett and coley run from the same side, with coley underneath and dorsett deep, choose your poison.

I hope the d plays more of a man zone, than a spot zone..LOL! guard that spot..

Really just frustrated with what I feel is a lack of courage by the team, and a lack of innovation by the staff.

DO BETTER CANES!! <-- smh.

SinisterCane

Anybody reviews on the new Madden 15?

30CINCO

I need to see the O Line redeem themselves. Kaaya's jersey needs to be squeaky clean at the end of this game.

CaneRock


I think we should be more worried about goal line defense scheme rather than a 4-3/3-4 debate

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwsbJ6LIgAAQvVJ.jpg

On a 4th and 1 look how far the safetys/LB's are playing off the LOS

Posted by: SinisterCane | September 05, 2014 at 09:31 AM

I've been seeing that pic floating around ont the web, I actually gave whoever's responsible for this incompetent scheme the BOTD, and thought it was photo-shopped. I checked YT to confirm my suspicions...suspicions denied...sad :(

CaneRock

The passing game in the Louisville game was as highschool as they come. The completion to Walford was a simple "SMASH" pattern, typical Cover-2 beater...WR runs a hitch, TE runs a post-corner. It's a simple hi-lo stretch on the CB...if He sinks under the post-corner, throw the hitch...if He squats on the hitch, throw the post-corner.

The crossing route to Dorsett, was a 3 level vertical stretch. Simply, you send three WRs long,medium, & short against the FS & CB. Dorsett was the medium WR on that route. Same thing with the 1st INT...BK made a good decision, but He made a cardinal sin..."NEVER UNDERTHROW A WR RUNNING DEEP & AWAY FROM YOU."

The one where He missed a wide open Dorsett, was a simple inside-out read on the flat defender. He never went OUT on His progression, stayed locked in on Coley.

I teach my son those progressions...again, HS $h!t.

canezilla

BRICK BY BRICK? NOT WITH THIS TEAM,ITS WOOD FRAMED THEN SLAP ON CHINESE DRYWALL

CaneRock

But next time they see a Cover-2, on the "SMASH" pattern, I would suggest to Coley to check release a RB up the middle of the field.

That way, you have a 3 on 2 advantage with your TE,WR, & RB, against the CB & FS. And 2, 2 on 1 advantages with the TE & WR on the CB, and the TE & RB on the FS.

We actually scored on this concept on the 1st TD in the UF game, and the 2nd TD of the FSU game.

Steve Spurrier was notorious for this concept in His "Fun-N-Gun" offense.

thirstybuzzardcane

So what should be the final score of the game tomorrow that will make everyone happy?....I'm calling 52-10. If we don't beat them by more than 21, it's a failure!

CaneRock

The FSMU game is a cash out game for FAMU.FAMU is maaaaaaybe one level above SSU. If we don't put 70+ on the scoreboard, it's a failure. If we can't get in our practice squad, it's a failure.

Dude on a Pale Horse

I saw in Al Golden's interview on the 3rd he said he was overriding Coley on the playcalls on Monday.

thirstybuzzardcane


BRICK BY BRICK? NOT WITH THIS TEAM,ITS WOOD FRAMED THEN SLAP ON CHINESE DRYWALL

Posted by: canezilla | September 05, 2014 at 10:22 AM

LMAO!!!!

UMike

I would like to see Chocolate and Yearby at RB the whole second half lol

Dude on a Pale Horse

That picture says 1,000 words!

UMike

PB31 posted that same pic, but with a split shot of Alabama on a 3rd and 1.. HUGE difference.

RCCF

I Just Want a WIN... and No beating FAMU or OverThere State won't mean a hill of beans but sheesh...Its like we have been bleeding forever and if the Fans see it I think the frustrating thing is HOW CAN THOSE GETTING PAID not see it.... Im On My Own Rant Patrol and am trying to simmer back down...

RCCF

CaneRock

I'm technically challenged, but I wish somebody would do a still shot of the TD that put UL up 21-13. It would show UL's O-Line smooshing our DLine shoulder to shoulder. That one play probably dropped Chick a round in the NFL Draft LMAO!

UMike

If Perryman wasnt back in the middle Monday, things might of been a lot worse lol

KYcane

Im On My Own Rant Patrol and am trying to simmer back down...

RCCF

Posted by: RCCF | September 05, 2014 at 10:48 AM

let me help you -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc9LxxGQ1Cs

NavyCane4Life

That roll out to duke down the sideline where we were called for illegal man down field was costly. That would have put us inside the 5 and able to take the lead. That really hurt our chances adn it was a tacky call to make at that point in the game.

CaneRock

If Perryman wasnt back in the middle Monday, things might of been a lot worse lol

Posted by: UMike | September 05, 2014 at 11:00 AM

Not only that, but imagine if Petrino REALLY! opened it up LMAO!

UMike

Navy... I agree it was tacky.. but DI made is VERY obvious and it had to be called.. it wasnt even borderline lol

86Cane

You should've seen me back when I was drinkin'.

Posted by: dj moonbat | September 05, 2014 at 09:18 AM

Yeah, uh, nobody wants to see that.

86Cane

On a 4th and 1 look how far the safetys/LB's are playing off the LOS

Posted by: SinisterCane | September 05, 2014 at 09:31 AM

As someone said on the last blog: "We have 5 giuys playing safety." WTF?

86Cane

Was it last year where we had formation with Gus at RB and Lewis spread wide? I must of seen this formation 50 times during the season and every time was the same play.

Posted by: UMike | September 05, 2014 at 09:38 AM

This is TRUE.

I kept thinking to myself: "I am sure they are just trying to set up tendencies and eventually they will go away from the run on that play/formation."

They never did.

longtimecanefan

great analysis by canerock...the real x and o's of the game made simple..

as for FAMU, please be sure 86 has a lower bowl seat. Any higher up could be a problem if we lose......

The U wins this, 30-10....

The Dude

Posted by: 86Cane | September 05, 2014 at 11:16 AM

I said that, its so true.

KYcane


please be sure 86 has a lower bowl seat. Any higher up could be a problem if we lose......

Posted by: longtimecanefan | September 05, 2014 at 11:27 AM

I got this


Anybody need an extra ticket for Saturday?

lower bowl sect 130

Posted by: KYcane | September 03, 2014 at 10:50 PM

I have 3 & only using 2

Not everyone at once.

Posted by: KYcane | September 04, 2014 at 09:53 PM

Go Canes

@mattyports: Basketball: #Canes G/F Davon Reed had surgery to repair torn left meniscus. UM calls it a "lower extremity" and says 4-6 mo. recovery

SinisterCane

Don't kill the messenger but they may fly the Banner this weekend.

I'm against it but I understand if they do it

Go Canes

@smillerdegnan: First UM-FIU game Sept. 22, 2018 at Sun Life Stadium

Lurker

If we don't score over 100 points and hold FAMU scoreless with zero first downs, it's a total failure and the season is over. I will also be posting at least 50 times a day about how we need to fire Golden immediately and bring back Lou Saban to coach the team.

Ohio_Cane

Manny Navarro ‏@Manny_Navarro 11m

My story: Bad vetting or bad luck, Golden’s early signing classes at #UM have lost a number of players - http://hrld.us/1vTVftf

Ohio_Cane

Canes 44
FAMU 13

TD in garbage time, 2 fgs vs starters

UMike

Ohio.. that sounds about right.. but I think there will be at least 1 TD against the starters.. just always seems to happen. I do hope we can score some more though.

Lurker

Canes 104

FAMU 0


FAMU never makes it past their 35 yd line

I will personally pilot the Hindenburg and a huge FIRE GOLDEN banner over the stadium at the next game if this doesn't happen.

LQ

Ohio, that was a very good read from manny. Putting that into perspective I understand. I'll give golden til 2016. But I hate to see miami lose . But since I've been a fan that's what I'm accustomed to. So I feel for you all in that matter. Better days ahead guys

LQ

Lurker, your a mad man

Ohio_Cane

All I'm saying is everything isn't on Golden. Everything isn't on Coley. Everything isn't on D'No. Is a lot of it? Sure it is, they're the coaches. The "fire this coach, fire that coach" after one bad game is ludicrous.

But some of this has to rest on the players, especially the ones who either can't hack it on the field once they get to UM, or the ones who can't stay out of trouble off the field.

Bad luck in the vetting process is part of it... Figeroua, Kiy Hester, possibly AQM. All really good kids before they came to UM. Not saying Hester has done anything wrong, but if it turns out he's leaving to be near a sick family member, good for him.

But who could've imagined Figs raping a girl after watching the Raising Canes where it talked about his parent's military background, teaching him the right values, etc? (They deleted the episode)

Ohio_Cane

Lurker cracks me up lol

WWIN

So why can cutcliff win at duke but it was OK for Butch not to win at UNC?

Posted by: pbcfrcane13 | September 05, 2014 at 06:38 AM

What did he win at Duke that Butch didn't win at unc????

So Cutcliff is tearing it up at Duke huh?? Or did he have one good year where he still lost about 5 games? I don't care who the coach is, NOBODY is going to win at Duke, unc, or with the Browns!!!!

UMike

Im gonna go 85/15 coaches fault/players fault lol... no matter the circumstances of their departure, these are the players they brought in lol

30CINCO

What did he win at Duke that Butch didn't win at unc????

Posted by: WWIM | September 05, 2014 at 12:37 PM
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Cutcliff won the Coastal and had 10 wins @ Duke. Butch didnt do either at UNC, and as we all know, neither has Golden here.

RCCF

for everyone throwing dirt on the Duke's, and UNC's of the world explain how TCU, Baylor, Boise, and even Oregon make noise every year and they don't have Half the accolades this U does...Its Called COACHING...

RCCF

WWIN

I will personally pilot the Hindenburg and a huge FIRE GOLDEN banner over the stadium at the next game if this doesn't happen.

Posted by: Lurker | September 05, 2014 at 12:11 PM

86, vault that please!!!!

Dude on a Pale Horse

You guys think that when OJ Simpson dies we'll find out he has that advanced CTE diagnosis?

WWIN

Posted by: UMike | September 05, 2014 at 12:51 PM

EXACTLY UMike!!

I see Kmart is running a EXCUSE special again!!!! Now its the players that got into trouble and kicked off the team????

WWIN

Cutcliff won the Coastal and had 10 wins @ Duke. Butch didnt do either at UNC, and as we all know, neither has Golden here.

Posted by: 30CINCO | September 05, 2014 at 12:52 PM

So was it one good year or was he doing this consistently????

86Cane

I'm against it but I understand if they do it

Posted by: SinisterCane | September 05, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Then understand this:

1. It will not accomplish in ANY WAY even come close to accomplishing their goal.

2. It will distract the players.

3. It will disrupt the game and the team.

4. It will hurt the program.

#UnderstandThat

WWIN

^^^^^^^^^^^
Not throwing shade at Cutcliff, he's doing great and a great coach if you ask me, but that's the best you CAN do at schools like unc and Duke!!

dj moonbat

The "fire this coach, fire that coach" after one bad game is ludicrous.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | September 05, 2014 at 12:30 PM


After one bad game, sure. But five of the last seven games have been not just losses, but bllllowouts. 18 points or more. Including losses to Duke and to a VT team that went 8-5 last season. That's a lot of bad games in quick succession.

And as I posted yesterday, we have a losing record against teams that are not themselves losing teams. We are, in short, bad.

And sure, some of that falls on the players. Now, however, they're GOLDEN's players. It's his job to make them better than this. It's his job to get better players to take their place, who won't get kicked off the team for committing serious crimes. It's his job to find coaches who will produce schemes to deploy them effectively.

We can disagree about the extent to which he is failing at these tasks, and how much those failures are his fault. But we can't disagree, really, that the UM football team is not good, and that his full-time job is to make it good.

86Cane

So was it one good year or was he doing this consistently????

Posted by: WWIM | September 05, 2014 at 01:01 PM

OK, now U are just acting STUPID with that comment. Never has your agenda been so clear. At least acknowledge the obvious: What Cut did at Duke was nothing short of PHENOMENAL.

There is no arguing or debating that, unless U just want to be stupid about it. Well do U?

86Cane

We can disagree about the extent to which he is failing at these tasks, and how much those failures are his fault. But we can't disagree, really, that the UM football team is not good, and that his full-time job is to make it good.

Posted by: dj moonbat | September 05, 2014 at 01:04 PM

This I think we can ALL agree on?

Well at least most of us, right?

OK, OK some of us can agree?

Oh, never mind...

j.w.

86, good blog. Bottom line is we're at the stage where this team (staff, if you want to go there) has something to prove. Most of us will give them a chance, but it's their job to prove it now and the worst thing they could do is ask for faith in the process. Show us you can get the job done and all (ok, most) is forgotten and forgiven.

30CINCO

Cutcliff won the Coastal and had 10 wins @ Duke. Butch didnt do either at UNC, and as we all know, neither has Golden here.

Posted by: 30CINCO | September 05, 2014 at 12:52 PM

So was it one good year or was he doing this consistently????

Posted by: WWIM | September 05, 2014 at 01:01 PM
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Does it really matter or is it a Kmart special from you for being wrong? lol.

longtimecanefan

doubt we will learn anything about this team and coach over the next two weeks, the competition just isn't there (lord I hope I'm right).

Save the banners and fire Al slogans until after the Nebraska game. That will be the first real look at what we have this season...

WWIN

86, did you get to read this first? Lol

Not throwing shade at Cutcliff, he's doing great and a great coach if you ask me, but that's the best you CAN do at schools like unc and Duke!!

Posted by: WWIM | September 05, 2014 at 01:03 PM

TonyCane

So why can cutcliff win at duke but it was OK for Butch not to win at UNC?

Posted by: pbcfrcane13 | September 05, 2014 at 06:38 AM

What did he win at Duke that Butch didn't win at unc????

So Cutcliff is tearing it up at Duke huh?? Or did he have one good year where he still lost about 5 games? I don't care who the coach is, NOBODY is going to win at Duke, unc, or with the Browns!!!!
Posted by: WWIM | September 05, 2014 at 12:37 PM

Art Bryles would win.

WWIN

^^^^^^^^^^^^
My point was this... Butch did the best he can do at unc just like Cutcliff is doing the best he can at duke!

longtimecanefan

Recent Manny article tells a big part of the story. Recruiting classes aren't what they appeared to be.....good analysis

It may be we still don't have the talent we think we do....

KYcane

Bottom line is we're at the stage where this team (staff, if you want to go there) has something to prove.

Posted by: j.w. | September 05, 2014 at 01:07 PM

I would have to turn that around a bit:

staff (team, if you want to go there)

These players need the staff to put them in the position to prove they can be good.

I just don't believe our talent level is that low despite all the star rankings and the such.

WWIN

Posted by: TonyCane | September 05, 2014 at 01:16 PM

Don't answer to that post, answer to the post that I've sent you like 5 times. Look up Golden's recruiting at Temple? Lol

WWIN

86, a agenda is what people have when they hold what Butch did at unc and with the Browns against him!! That's a AGENDA!!

Ohio_Cane

Now its the players that got into trouble and kicked off the team????

Posted by: WWIM | September 05, 2014 at 12:59 PM
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Clearly U misread. I was speaking to the vetting process of recruiting being bad luck, a la Manny's article.

Unless you didn't misread, and U think it's the coaches fault those players got in trouble. In which case, that's the dumbest post U've ever typed on this site.

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