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October 23, 2014

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trianglecane

TOP schools in the ACC

Duke #8
ND #16
UVA #23
Wake #27
UNC #30 non-athletes
BC #31
GT #35
UM #48
SU #58
CU #62
PITT #62
VT #71
FSU #95
NCST #95
UL #161
UNCG #189 http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/page+5

BEERicane

I'm not about to make the leap from acceptance rates/profiles to educational quality or prestiege or rankings....

I know what you are saying GC, but the data for UMs applicant pool does not support/describe the scenario you are proposing.

Old school ~1160SAT and let's say 3.5GPA is not exactly stringent criteria coming out of HS. It's not like they are all attending Ransom (for a Miami reference), Bronx Science, St Johns for high school.

1mg of Epi

Arguing that something is "selective" based only on the statistics of that same something is invalid. Selectivity can only be quantified based on a comparison to another something. What is the quantitative baseline of selectivity?

I'm suddenly longing for the good old days of hater/bootlicker brannigans.

SOUP

Just got home. New blog at 7 PM.

BEERicane

And back to the original claim of a 10% admission rate, that was way off and would be more in line with MIT, Duke, etc.

SOUP

OMG, now we arguing that UM is easy to get in?

Next let's argue if the sun sets in the West?

READY, SET, GO!

SOUP

BEER....WHAT COLOR IS BLUE?

Lurker

Lurker
Lol Beer. Tell me your experience with college applications to UM

From your own link to UM:

75th Percentile 1420
25th Percentile 1270

Do you understand this stat?

Explain it to me.

Posted by: Lurker | October 25, 2014 at 04:34 PM

I'll let you study normal/Gaussian distributions and that should be pretty self-explanatory.
Posted by: BEERicane | October 25, 2014 at 04:46 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^

You still haven't told me so let me put it out there in the simplest terms.

It means: that of students admitted, 25% had a 1420 SAT out of a perfect 1600, 50% had between 1270 and 1470, and 75% had higer than 1270.

That fits my criteria of hard to get into. Not as hard as the Ivies or Duke, or the California system, but comparatively very hard compared to all colleges. You must be arguing this from the perspective someone who has a PhD in ohysical chemistry, which must mean you were in the top 1% of the science majors at UM to even get into the program.

What was your doctoral thesis on and what employ pent opportunities did it offer, or did you stay in academia?

SOUP

Some people just like to argue? OK, now I get it.

I like green.

Purple sucks.

Please discuss?

BEERicane

in the simplest terms.

It means: that of students admitted, 25% had a 1420 SAT out of a perfect 1600, 50% had between 1270 and 1470, and 75% had higer than 1270.

INCORRECT (though your description of the data ranges themselves are spot on)! It is the data of the matriculated freshman. Not that of the accepted.

SOUP

I think I may have Gaussian Distribution in my left eye and right lung. Is that bad? Can it be cured???

Lurker

Soup - UM's own admission data proves its selective in terms of students accepted and the distribution of SAT scores and high school class rankings with respect to the general population of college qualified high school students.

No, it's not an Ivy or Duke or Stanford but nobody's arguing that

BEERicane

What was your doctoral thesis on and what employ pent opportunities did it offer, or did you stay in academia?

Posted by: Lurker | October 25, 2014 at 05:16 PM

It was in statistical mechanics and kinetics of polymer formation and complexation some enzymatics too.

I could have gone the industry route. Decent opps, but didnt want to be a Poor Hungry Doctor (PhD) for all my life and vulnerable to R&D cuts. So I decided to become a Money Doctor (MD) afterward.

SOUP

BEER...congratulations!

U have won "Instigator of the Day" award for generating the most comments opposing your opionon. Usually WWIN/M wins that award but he TRIES to win it. U did it all by posting complete and utter nonsense.

Way to go young man!!!

Lurker

Soup, think of bell curve and you're halfway there. He just put that in to deflect the argument

SOUP

My goodness we need a new blog in the WORST way, right?

SOUP

It was in statistical mechanics and kinetics of polymer formation and complexation some enzymatics too.

Posted by: BEERicane | October 25, 2014 at 05:23 PM

Does D'Onofrio know that U are discussing this?

I am sure he would blitz U just out of spite?

CaneRock


And back to the original claim of a 10% admission rate, that was way off and would be more in line with MIT, Duke, etc.

Posted by: BEERicane | October 25, 2014 at 05:13 PM

YES!

BEERicane

BEER...congratulations!

U have won "Instigator of the Day" award for generating the most comments opposing your opionon. Usually WWIN/M wins that award but he TRIES to win it. U did it all by posting complete and utter nonsense.

Way to go young man!!!

Posted by: SOUP | October 25, 2014 at 05:23 PM

Lol. Thanks! I will play resident contrarian from time to time to open up discussion. It's the best way to understand the issue at hand.

USAFCane

Patterson at TCU sure has moved with the times. His offense is putting up major points. Great coach.

BEERicane

I am sure he would blitz U just out of spite?

Posted by: SOUP | October 25, 2014 at 05:26 PM

The probability of this happening is quite small. : )

Lurker

BEERicane
in the simplest terms.

It means: that of students admitted, 25% had a 1420 SAT out of a perfect 1600, 50% had between 1270 and 1470, and 75% had higer than 1270.

INCORRECT (though your description of the data ranges themselves are spot on)! It is the data of the matriculated freshman. Not that of the accepted.

Posted by: BEERicane | October 25, 2014 at 05:19 PM

It IS correct. You've lost the argument, and now you're desperately playing semantics.

"Admitted students" . That's a direct quote. So there's that. Matriculated is an irrelevant distinction anyway, because we're discussing admissions standards, not enrollments.

You may have a PhD, but you're not bringing your A game.

1mg of Epi

UMs stats prove nothing on their own... They just support a subjective opinion. that being said Lurker i agree w u.

SOUP- purple is not only a fantastic color, it is, according to Gaussian distribution, WAAAAY more selective than green. Not only is your opinion wrong, but you're a bad person!!

Lurker

What is your medical specialty? Where did you go to medical school? If you went to UM medical school, and/or did your internship/residency there, I may know you.

SOUP

The probability of this happening is quite small. : )

Posted by: BEERicane | October 25, 2014 at 05:30 PM

SIGH...this is true.

SOUP

1. Purple is not only a fantastic color, it is, according to Gaussian distribution, WAAAAY more selective than green.

2. Not only is your opinion wrong, but you're a bad person!!

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | October 25, 2014 at 05:34 PM

1. I verified this as TRUE on Wikipedia.

2. I verified this as TRUE by Mrs. SOUP.

Go Canes

In summary, my position on this matter is

SOUP

Damn, I am 0-2.

Lurker

That closes the topic for further discussion, ladies and gentlemen.

1mg of Epi

Thanks. The stats actually do prove something. They're publishing verifiable data on their web page. It's a mathematically quantifiable opinion.

Posted by: Lurker | October 25, 2014 at 05:43

True. And Not. The stats give us a measurable quantity. True. However to call those stats selective would require another statistic to quantify against.

Eh.. Lets just blame it on beer.

As an aside, did chad Thomas play Thursday?

SOUP

NEW BLOG IS UP!

SOUP

TAP, TAP, TAP...is this thing on?

I said NEW blog was up!

dj moonbat

75th Percentile 1420
25th Percentile 1270

Do you understand this stat?

Explain it to me.

Posted by: Lurker | October 25, 2014 at 04:34 PM


It means that you were wrong to say that 1300 was a minimum.

WWIN

It wasnt this way before they got here.

Posted by: The Dude | October 25, 2014 at 03:40 AM

#TrueStory

SOUP

Sold one!

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