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October 19, 2014

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SOUP

NEW BLOG IS UP, BUT U CANNOT COMMENT!

Lurker

It's not easy being a loyal fan. Much less easier to run a blog, when you're working 12 hours a day, which I'm sure you do.

When I first started posting, Ohio, Mike, Terrance, and lots of other really sensible people posted a lot. I think it was after Louisville it turned really fast into hate ping-pong.

I wish those people would post more and bring more balance.

But I respect your opinion, and I'll keep checking every so often.

Maybe the people that have a really good gut feeling about VT are right and the mood will improve?

j.w.

We understand, Soup. Take care.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: SOUP | October 21, 2014 at 10:36 PM

All good things happen in 101s.

SOUP

Maybe if there's a rule to keep it about football and dispense with the attacking other bloggers. Try it one more time

Posted by: Lurker | October 21, 2014 at 10:32 PM

Tried that 100 times, makes no difference.

I'm done.

SOUP

This is SOUP signing off for the last time.

Good night Canespace, good night...

SOUP

Buh-bye Canespace.

It has been fun, but now we are done!

SOUP

Yeah so that's not enough to keep this thing going. U have 20 really good fans vs 2000 worthless dogs who just hate.

#HatersGonnaHate

#ImSoDoneWithThat

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: SOUP | October 21, 2014 at 10:14 PM

The Dude of course.

NO NOT REALLY.

I USED TO LIKE U BUT U TURNED ANGRY, SOUR AND BITTER AND THEN TO THE DARK SIDE AND LOST YOUR WAY. NO BUENO!

#UAreToast

SOUP

OhioCane...U are cool but everybody else pretty much sucks.

Well Fran is good. KYCane is cool. RaizeCane is good. CGNC is pretty and smart. UMike is OK most of the time. LB makes me laugh along djmoonbat. Terrance is Da Man but as U can see even he gave up Canespace lately.

SurferCane is crazy positive and I like that. Lurker I was worried about but he turned out really cool. 30Cinco tries to keep it positive. GoCanes does his best to fight the good fight. WindyCityCane also keeps it real.

But other than that, well who am I leaving out?

SOUP

I suck.

U suck.

We all suck.

Air really sucks.

Water is even worse.

Don't even get me started on actualy hard ground.

Heat sucks, cold sucks worse.

Light sucks, but darkeness is the worst!

Things just suck.

I mean everything just really, really sucks.

And so do each and everyone of U!

Goodbye Canespace...

SOUP

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texican cane

Vtech is an average team, they are at home on a Thursday but this is as much a must win as Al is going to have. A loss to FSU is expected by most here, Vtech is the game to show us haters something. Bc FSU is much more talented than us, and if we lose that game that will be brought up by the bootlickers. I have zero confidence that Al can beat a more talented team so Thursday's game is key.

Posted by: Texican cane | October 21, 2014 at 09:31 PM

texican cane

Texican, go blue or go home.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 21, 2014 at 09:20 PM
Haha...you delete a post you don't like bc of type pad login? Waiting for the lurker post to go blue or go home.......

Posted by: Texican cane | October 21, 2014 at 09:34 PM

The Dude

My by Ohio blew a gasket tonight.

WWIN

^^^^^^^^^^^^
You getting to sensitive homie! This is the "STATE of the U" right now! The program is down right now, so these are the current topics. When the program changes the topics will too! NOBODY roots for the team to lose or for Golden to fail, we just state the truth when it happens.

Texican cane

Texican, go blue or go home.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 21, 2014 at 09:20 PM
Haha...you delete a post you don't like bc of type pad login? Waiting for the lurker post to go blue or go home.......

Texican cane

Those that will say "these kids hate the coaches, they're just being nice in the media" are foolish. Are there some players that don't like the coaches? Probably. But the ones like Perryman, Chick, etc saying "it's not coaches fault" aren't just lying to be politically correct.

Also, I believe every fan has the right to spend their hard earned money on whatever they want. If they don't like the movie, don't pay to see it a 2nd time. Fine by me.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 21, 2014 at 09:15 PM
When have you heard college players talking shtt about their coaches? NFL maybe, the fins had some guys questioning their DC and a DL dropping into coverage few weeks ago. It just doesn't seem like college kids do it.
This game:
Vtech is an average team, they are at home on a Thursday but this is as much a must win as Al is going to have. A loss to FSU is expected by most here, Vtech is the game to show us haters something. Bc FSU is much more talented than us, and if we lose that game that will be brought up by the bootlickers. I have zero confidence that Al can beat a more talented team so Thursday's game is key.

Ohio_Cane


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Lol! According to you, to us bootlickers are a pain in the ass!

Posted by: WWIM | October 21, 2014 at 09:20 PM
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Well then, continue to bitch and I'll continue to wait for it to stop. If that means I'm not here often, so be it.

Ohio_Cane

Texican, go blue or go home.

WWIN

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Lol! According to you, to us bootlickers are a pain in the ass!

Ohio_Cane

WWIM
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 21, 2014 at 08:54 PM

If the so called "haters" didn't post, how many post do you think would be on here?

Posted by: WWIM | October 21, 2014 at 09:13 PM
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A lot more by me, i can tell U that much.

Oh, and now you're all doing some sort of service to this site by being pains in the ass? Got it.

Ohio_Cane

DJ, point taken.

However, bashing the coaches over and over (in the media, radio and over the stadium) will weigh on these kid's minds constantly. They're not stupid. They know their performance directly effects the coaches on this team and their livelihoods. So in that sense, bashing the coaches IS not supporting these kids.

Those that will say "these kids hate the coaches, they're just being nice in the media" are foolish. Are there some players that don't like the coaches? Probably. But the ones like Perryman, Chick, etc saying "it's not coaches fault" aren't just lying to be politically correct.

Also, I believe every fan has the right to spend their hard earned money on whatever they want. If they don't like the movie, don't pay to see it a 2nd time. Fine by me.

WWIN

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 21, 2014 at 08:54 PM

If the so called "haters" didn't post, how many post do you think would be on here?

dj moonbat

So from this day forward, I will be attending EVERY UM athletic event sitting front row until the end of time no matter where they play! Can't wait to go to Blacksburg on Thursday! I will still be posting on the blog throughout the game tho, but I'll be there! But I won't be taking any pics or meeting anybody.

Posted by: WWIM | October 21, 2014 at 09:07 PM


That is an excellent policy. If you go to all the games in your imagination, you don't have to worry about leaving early to beat traffic.

Surfercane

This game will be a HUGE win for Kaaya and crew! Fourth road start in a row for the true freshman and all big night games. I am hopeful all these games and experience pay off over the next couple years! Please continue to progress B Kaaya you are the future bro!

Let's go Canes!!

WWIN

Posted by: Go Canes | October 21, 2014 at 08:50 PM

Did I say you? But if the shoe fits wear it!

All I'm saying is don't believe what people say without PROOF!

So from this day forward, I will be attending EVERY UM athletic event sitting front row until the end of time no matter where they play! Can't wait to go to Blacksburg on Thursday! I will still be posting on the blog throughout the game tho, but I'll be there! But I won't be taking any pics or meeting anybody.

dj moonbat

Shut up, and support the kids on this team, win or lose. End of rant...

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 21, 2014 at 08:54 PM


But how does calling for the coach to be fired mean somebody's not supporting the players?

And beyond that, if the average fan wants a change, not going to games -- and not buying team merchandise -- is the only way to contribute to that goal. But you guys are saying THAT's forbidden, too -- gotta 'support the troops.'

No. People gotta do what they think is right. There is no moral high ground here -- one group thinks what's best for the team is doing what it takes to enact regime change, and another group thinks that fans should just keep lining up and buying tickets until their betters deign to make a change.

Go Canes

What Ohio said

Ohio_Cane

Will all of U just shut the hell up and support the Canes whether U like the direction of the program or not?

Not ONE of U guys will change ANYTHING in this administrations minds by posting countless times, over and over, the same ole shit. Nor are any of your banners flying over games. They accomplish nothing.

Shut up, and support the kids on this team, win or lose. End of rant...

Go Canes

Posted by: WWIM | October 21, 2014 at 08:41 PM

You desperately, and I mean desperately, need new material.

dj moonbat

I'm still rooting for Al Golden to succeed aren't you guys?? Hell I would even root for No'd if he would make an adjustment to his unsuccessful D scheme!

Posted by: Surfercane | October 21, 2014 at 08:45 PM


I just want Saturdays to be fun again.

Surfercane

eff the banner! If you fly one you should always wait until final game of season C'mon!

I'm still rooting for Al Golden to succeed aren't you guys?? Hell I would even root for No'd if he would make an adjustment to his unsuccessful D scheme!

Let's go Canes!!

WWIN

All imma say is this...

ANYBODY can say I got season tickets, ANYBODY can say I go to all the games!

#IGoToEveryGame

SinisterCane

Posted by: dj moonbat | October 21, 2014 at 08:09 PM


dj moonbat

I'm going take the high road tonight

Go Canes

majority of the stuff you post is in support of Golden, no matter how bad we play you'll find a excuse for him: Elite level defenses are not that important for a championship team in this day and age just for starters or flood the Space with tweets form other team misfortunes to make it look like it's happening to everybody and not just AL but hey a man that has supported the canes longer then some have been alive I will not diss you on that however you love you some AL

dj moonbat

Better execution in critical situations and on third down is what I would like to see [some] of.

Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | October 21, 2014 at 08:21 PM


Fixed your post.

BigWindyCane1

Looking at the VT game to determine if the team is progressing. Better execution in critical situations and on third down is what I would like to see more of. In addition, I would like to see fewer missed assignments, turnovers and other mental mistakes. With these explosive playmakers, the Canes can be very good with proper execution and fewer mistakes.

Lurker

USA card ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Lurker

Lurker, you do love Al more than the U, that's what all your blood pressure raising posts are about. You so love Al more than The U, that you thought a Marine should have more allegiance to The U, than the REAL U...The Good Ole' USA! But keep threatening to confront Marines, Lurker...keep giving posters on CS ultimatums, Lurker...we scared of you Lurker, ohhhhhh LMAO!

Posted by: CaneRock | October 21, 2014 at 07:23 PM

Basically, a pack of obvious lies, and you just don't care, do you? And now you're pulling the YSA card. You're a pathetic liar.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: dj moonbat | October 21, 2014 at 08:08 PM

Besides, making money off your own work is an NCAA violation. Do we really need a 3 year canespace investigation.

dj moonbat

But how do you not see hi asinine today look telling 20-30 year Cane fans they love some coach more then the U?

Posted by: Go Canes | October 21, 2014 at 08:07 PM


Type slower.

dj moonbat

Its an unofficial fan club. Sorry.

Posted by: The Dude | October 21, 2014 at 08:05 PM


Now I guess I know how the recruiting sites feel about the relentless copyright violations.

Go Canes

Sinister once again you just don't get it.

I don't think I'm better than anyone. But how do you not see hi asinine today look telling 20-30 year Cane fans they love some coach more then the U?

Dude on a Pale Horse

Its an unofficial fan club. Sorry.

dj moonbat

^^^ this will be in the next bimonthly newsletter.

Posted by: The Dude | October 21, 2014 at 07:53 PM


Not without my damned royalty check!

Dude on a Pale Horse

^^^ this will be in the next bimonthly newsletter.

dj moonbat

Haters are the ones that don't love the program, they just love to hate, above all else.

Posted by: Lurker | October 21, 2014 at 06:24 PM

Lurker, you do love Al more than the U, that's what all your blood pressure raising posts are about.

Posted by: CaneRock | October 21, 2014 at 07:23 PM


Look, this is dumb. Trying to prove that the other side are not legitimate fans is stupid. Both sides are obviously fans.

There is a legitimate disagreement over one basic question: given time, will the team improve under current leadership?

I think the answer is no. But the situation is similar to the dispute I found myself in with supporters of the war in Iraq, where any couple of days without an atrocity was taken as a sign that things were about to turn the corner.

So every time this team ekes out some half-assed win against a half-assed opponent, there's a tendency for supporters of the status quo to demand more time (moving the goalposts), and there's a tendency on the side of pulling off the band-aid NOW to downplay the win (hating).

But unlike the Iraq war scenario, nobody's getting killed. So let's all calm the f*** down, and stop insulting one another's fan credentials. Get back to insulting each other's intelligence.


SinisterCane

Posted by: Go Canes | October 21, 2014 at 06:42 PM

So your more of a fan then me because you've attending games for 3 decades, I will not knock your accomplishment of supporting our Team but you don't know my history of supporting the team, when I was active duty stationed in VA I attending Vatech road game in 1995 when we lost and Boston college and Rutgers while stationed in CT over the yrs, try being a Canes fan in enemy territory while on probation. Anybody that as much buys a Hurricane T-shirt is fan in my book and we when I visit my hometown in MIAMI I do all my CANES shopping in CANES WEAR/ALL CANES right by the U. Not to mention riding around with Canes tags on our vehicles

You make me laugh think your better then me

Go Canes

Lol,

CaneRock

Lurker, you do love Al more than the U, that's what all your blood pressure raising posts are about. You so love Al more than The U, that you thought a Marine should have more allegiance to The U, than the REAL U...The Good Ole' USA! But keep threatening to confront Marines, Lurker...keep giving posters on CS ultimatums, Lurker...we scared of you Lurker, ohhhhhh LMAO!

Go Canes

@MiamiHurricanes: Duke is just an even 300 yards away from passing James Jackson for third place on Miami's all-time rushing list: http://t.co/IJn3NKCsjE

Go Canes


@TheStateOfTheU: It begins RT @UncleLeezy: A month ago, Calloway was all but a Gator. Now, he's not even mentioning them in his top 3.


@Safid_Deen: .@TheStateOfTheU @UncleLeezy It's UM or UF for Antonio Callaway. No one else, really. Maybe Auburn.

Lurker

What a ridiculous concept. Moving the goalposts? As if anything some random blogger says changes how AG is evaluated internally, like posters make hiring and firing decisions. If Internet numbskulls were always that right, Gruden would have been our coach. Get a grip.

Go Canes

3 decades. /\ /\

Go Canes

Posted by: SinisterCane | October 21, 2014 at 06:19 PM

Yes I started going to games 30 decades ago and buying season tickets 15 years ago knowing Golden was coming some day.

Every once in a while one of the things some of you post actually make me laugh out loud.

Thanks for that.

SinisterCane

Posted by: Lurker | October 21, 2014 at 06:24 PM

You think I feel this way for the sh!t and giggles. 10 yrs. worth of losing has created the hostile toxic atmosphere amongst Canes fans, AKA our civil war. Every time Golden fails his supporter keep on moving the goalpost and last but not least with this condescending go to move of only fans go to games BS. Every time some buy a UM license plate or buys Hurricanes team paraphernalia is supporting the EFFing team

SinisterCane

I just want a coach who employs "Players then Plays" I heard that before somewhere hmmmmm

Lurker

Wise up sinister. I have no warm feelings for AG. At all. And people that don't go to games and do nothing to support the program, saying that people that do, love some guy from Jersey more than the U is a flat out lie and ignorant.

Haters are the ones that don't love the program, they just love to hate, above all else.

30CINCO

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 21, 2014 at 04:40 PM
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Freshman All-American QB - TRUE FR!

SinisterCane

Posted by: The Dude | October 21, 2014 at 06:16 PM

They love Golden more than the U

SinisterCane

Does Coley recruit defensive players?

Dude on a Pale Horse

You know what's funny is I posted the outcomes for what the season could be prior to the season and universally it was accepted that 6-6 equalled next coach up. Now that target has shifted around here. So I'd do it again for next year, but knowing how the Golden is able to lower the bar, he'd just get me again. Lol.

tjl3909

Whataburger? they would have stayed awake for a In & Out burger:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11735526/jhajuan-seales-juwan-offray-oklahoma-state-cowboys-arrested-allegedly-falling-asleep-car

Lurker

That's right. I don't want to get into too much what I think my year end position will be, but I say let him sink or swim with the staff that he wants and picks. I believe in the old Parcells adage, if I have to cook the dinner, then I get to pick the groceries. If he wants to keep his bff, let him. He'll either be proven right or not. It's all on him

Dude on a Pale Horse

Now we have to debate what a sh-t showing is under Golden. Lets see, how low is the bar today? 9-4, no ACC CG appearance and that will be an improvement over this year. Maybe next year we only get blown out twice?

dj moonbat

Reasonable post. The key point being that in most scenarios Al is the coach next year, too. Unless they lose out, I just don't see him being fired at the end of this year. Even then, it won't be a given.

Posted by: Lurker | October 21, 2014 at 05:46 PM


Yes, it's far more likely than not Al's the coach in 2015. I've now given up my pipe dream that Al will decide to make systemic change; either he gets lucky and things finally start clicking, or not.

Lurker

Doesn't matter what your theories are, and trust me, he's not unconditionally loved in the A dept, there's enough info out there to say he isn't, but that's irrekevant.

What's relevant is that he gets next year. It is felt he's owed that. After that, we'll see. If it's another shlt show next year, I don't see how they keep him, the pressure will be too great, and there'll be some money people stepping up.

So I do what I always do. Support the program, support the players, and not do stupid crap that hurts the program and the players, like spend hours a day on social media badmouthing, and supporting fcktard plane banners.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Not at Lurker, at dj.

Dude on a Pale Horse

^^^ even still. The U really loves this guy. Just look at some of the posts around here. They wont even answer the question of what happens at 5-7. Makes me think they have a chart with excuses piled on it as to why we are losing, with every loss they just rip a sheet off to the next set of talking points. I'd wager there is a feeling in the athletic department that we have to be right on Al. Maybe its the contract I don't know? The only real excuse is if The U really doesn't have the money in the short term to make the logical moves. This thing is a dumpster fire.

Lurker

Reasonable post. The key point being that in most scenarios Al is the coach next year, too. Unless they lose out, I just don't see him being fired at the end of this year. Even then, it won't be a given.

That's not what I'm saying should or shouldn't hapoen, I'm saying that's what most people see as the most likely scenario. Pro Al, con, or neutral.

dj moonbat

^^^ does he need to win more? For the fans, yes. The U may be a different story.

Posted by: The Dude | October 21, 2014 at 05:33 PM


Let's generously assume five losses this year. If that number doesn't go down next year to three or fewer, yeah, I think he gets fired. If that number this year balloons to seven, he might even get fired this year.

A few weeks ago, the Al-pologists were trying to reassure us with the notion that the 'Canes "controlled their own destiny." As if nobody could see that this team wasn't going to stop with just the one loss.

Well, now, Al's the one in control of HIS destiny. He's run out of other people, ideas, inanimate objects, etc. to blame.

Lurker


Dude, have you ever met a guy who served in the Marines, and said to yourself afterwards, wow, I can't believe that guy was in the Marines. I haven't.

Posted by: Lurker | October 20, 2014 at 10:56 PM

What does a marine look like? Just curious.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | October 20, 2014 at 10:58 PM

I served as an officer in the Marine Corps. You may be surprised to learn that typical Marines look rather average. (But not me. Back then I was somewhat bigger and stronger than average). What mainly distinguishes typical Marines, I think, is courage, conditioning, and most important of all discipline and MENTAL toughness.

Posted by: 2002nemo | October 21, 2014 at 04:02 PM

Let's get something straight.

I thought it was the SAME GUY flying the plane.

It's not, I found out today.

The guy that started this, his name (initials only) is DV, he did the deal for the home game. He is NOT a marine, if he was, he was recently discharged. But I know he isn't from his shaky demeanor, the fact that some old fat guy is his "bodyguard" and he's a straight up publicity seeking sissy punk. He was begging radio stations to interview him, and even had his encounter with Laz YouTubed, in which him and his fat boyfriend, confronted Laz when he was by himself and tried to punk him. They looked like juvenile idiots trying to start trouble but not having the balls to follow through.

If DV is a marine, I'll contribute $200 to a charity of your choosing, or wait better yet, I'll make that an additional contribution to the Hurricane club, and I'll document it.

Dude on a Pale Horse

^^^ does he need to win more? For the fans, yes. The U may be a different story.

dj moonbat

Again, it's not that complicated: Al needs to start winning more if he wants to keep the UM head coaching job. Period.

All the rest is excuses at this point.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Go Canes,

Al goes 5-7, I don't think it will happen, but let's say it does... what happens?

Does he still have a process you believe in?

Dude on a Pale Horse

And Al didnt want to coach the bowl practices then, even though they are so important now. Lol at how prepared we were last year before Louisville took Al to the wood shed.

Dude on a Pale Horse

And Randy didnt coach the bowl game, so its 7-5.

Go Canes

You're /\/\

Dude on a Pale Horse

^^^ hey, to Cinco it is. Thats a much better record. ^^^

Go Canes

My bad, they finished 7-6 not 6-6.

Your right, big, big difference.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Ah, back in blue.

The Dude

The Dude is on thin ice CR, lol. I'm getting too close to the light.

SinisterCane

IMHO Coley is our best recruiter by far - Stacy Coley, Brad Kaaya and Yearby are impact for players for the U

CaneRock


Shannonites are a sensitive bunch, lol.

Posted by: 30CINCO | October 21, 2014 at 04:51 PM

OH!, we had the Goldenites on the ropes last night, you should've been there...ain't that right TD?

CaneRock

LMAO! @ "to finish a .500 season".

I didn't know 7-5 was .500, BUT!, I'll assume that's the same place you got your Brian Monroe info from...or the same place that told you they didn't give RS a contract extension...but carry on though.

30CINCO

Shannonites are a sensitive bunch, lol.

CaneRock


How the hell can other programs "cheat" AND win ships but we couldn't win the Coastal?

Posted by: 30CINCO | October 21, 2014 at 04:00 PM

How the hell could you have the most relaxed academic standards in the MAC, and not win the MAC? Or beat 1 ranked team...NOT 1!

Or how could you be in one of the hottest recruiting beds in the nation, especially for DBs, and have only 1 DB for the 2015 recruiting class...JUST 1!

Huh CINCO?...LMAO!

Ohio_Cane

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SinisterCane

Posted by: Go Canes | October 21, 2014 at 04:37 PM

No Flame - Who has he recruited?

Go Canes

James Franklin is a heck of a recruiter. He deserved a lot of credit. And they have no scholarship reductions.

2002nemo


What mainly distinguishes typical Marines, I think, is courage, conditioning, and most important of all discipline and MENTAL toughness.

Posted by: 2002nemo | October 21, 2014 at 04:02 PM


Plus those flat-top haircuts.

Posted by: dj moonbat | October 21, 2014 at 04:06 PM

"High and tight"

SinisterCane

PED U is out recruiting Golden with scholarships reduction, I guess they need a full cycle too

Go Canes

No very, very good recruiting classes.

The Dude

Posted by: dj moonbat | October 21, 2014 at 04:27 PM

dj,

He said the team was talent the recruiting classes were very, very talented.

The Dude

Posted by: Go Canes | October 21, 2014 at 04:22 PM

I agree with most of this but it still doesn't explain why he continuously gets beaten by inferior teams. The only explanation for that is he simply isn't up to the challenge. His teams play sloppy. If it were only Ws and Ls Al would not get 2015. Al is getting extra credit for a) being hired before the NCAA investigation became a media frenzy b) getting the team conditioned (which in my opinion is like the most basic thing a HC makes sure happens) c) rebuilding ties to So FL high schools (again, an absolute necessity for the survival of our program) I think he gets way too much credit for these things that are so plainly obvious. But I guess the last guy was so bad you guys at The U really think Golden is wicked smart.

SinisterCane

We haven't even had 1 full recruiting cycle since the sanctions. Say this after Feb 2015.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 21, 2014 at 04:18 PM


Come on man with the excuses, Either he can recruit elite defensive players or he can't. You love to keep kickin' the can down the road

dj moonbat

The difference between the two is one took a very talented team, added two very, very good recruiting classes to it and at the end of four years lost at home to a terrible team to finish a .500 season.

Posted by: Go Canes | October 21, 2014 at 04:22 PM


"Very, very talented?"

Ridiculous.

Go Canes

The difference between the two is one took a very talented team, added two very, very good recruiting classes to it and at the end of four years lost at home to a terrible team to finish a .500 season.

The other took over an out of shape team smacked with a salacious, nearly three year NCAA investigation. The team had no commits and was basically in chaos.

To compare records without seeing the starting point of both coaches tells a very incomplete story.

laquinton

Oh the old Shannon vs Golden debate. Different times and different attitudes. Golden has everybody behind him on how he handled the ncaa mess. Allegedly turning down psu twice and how he is in front of a camera.

Shannon was just a cane but he had hand on choosing coaches just bad offensive coordinators which doomed him. Ehh. Golden is at the same crossroads that got Shannon fired. He better finish the year strong or else his fate is sewn he won't have time to fire anybody.

Go Canes !

Ohio_Cane

I thought Golden was supposed to clean house with defensive recruits, since there's no more CLOUD over Coral Gables

Posted by: SinisterCane | October 21, 2014 at 03:31 PM
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We haven't even had 1 full recruiting cycle since the sanctions. Say this after Feb 2015.

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