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October 06, 2014

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LaQuinton

Listening to Darrin Smith this morning and Golden's response to Manny questions on how to stop a one dimension offense was the exact opposite.

The Dude

I wondered the same thing LaQuinton. My guess is that he's stronger against the run. Problem is Mark and Al keep him game planned out of having an impact.

I laugh at the idea that Al deserves 2015. What's funny is I said at the beginning of the year that if Al went 7-5 or 6-6 he'd be done and I'm pretty sure everyone agreed with me. Now, the target has changed, lol. I don't understand why you'd give a guy an extra season to be fired. Do you want the program to be a year behind? Al will be the same coach in 2015. The same one that wont hold himself accountable.

WWIN

Posted by: 30CINCO | October 07, 2014 at 02:29 PM

I don't buy em and I didn't! To be honest I really don't like going to games, my wife wanted to go, that's the only reason I was going. Do you know anybody on the team? No? I do! Lol

Ask Soup how Corn Elder got to UM!

The Dude

If I'm the AD, the ONLY way Al keeps his job is to win out CONVINCINGLY. Even a loss to FSU and he's done. Mark is gone period and I'm bringing in my own DC. If Al doesn't like it he knows where the door is. Hell I might hire Butch as the DC and give him complete autonomy and force Al out the door if wont accept the responsibility of his position as HC.

The Dude

But Al wont win out, we'll lose to FSU and VT & maybe another out of the 4 games against Cincy, Pitt, UNC and VA.

WWIN

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Prove that you are even a REAL LIFE person before coming to me jock strap! Lol

Sarasota 'cane

Kup & Crowder were ripping Golden again today.

When was the last time UM stole a game as a dog?

What is Al's "signature win" since he got here? Is it beating 4-8 UF?

Given the fact UM will not beat FSU, what other game constitutes a signature win?

SinisterCane

Worst coaching staff in the history of UM deserves until 2015 - LMAO

SinisterCane

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | October 07, 2014 at 02:50 PM

I'd say VT is the last possible signature win for Al

The Dude

Posted by: SinisterCane | October 07, 2014 at 02:55 PM

Exactly.

Someone tell me what is different between this year for Golden and Randy's last year?

The Dude

I'm serious.

To the supporters of Al. Go Canes, 30Cinco, SOUPERS. How is this last year going to be any different than Randy's last year? And he was one of our own. We fired one of our own for this stuff, why not Al?

The Dude

The only answer I can see is that Al has more guaranteed money on the table, and that's all speculation.

longtimecanefan

Chances of losing to Cincinnati are near 0%

But dont be fooled by an easy win.

Alfolden needs 3 wins in the last 5 to stay above .500.

Needs to win out to equal last years record...wont happen.

SinisterCane

The bar has been set so low for AL that even a sail can hoop over it and eureka 2015

dj moonbat

Why Michigan and Florida fans should stop supporting terrible coaches

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/3/6843555/florida-michigan-football-fans-brady-hoke-will-muschamp

The article makes no mention of Al. I'm sure y'all can have a lively discussion about why that is.

that was then this is now

While things are bad here at least we haven't fallen as hard as Texas, Tenn, Florida and Michigan. Now we have been mediocre longer than they have but I believe they are more primed to make it back quicker than we will. The SEC is a mofo to play in and a few bad recruiting classes, a few key injuries and bad coaching and you will suk in that conference. The way we play defense, I'd hate to think how bad we'd be getting lit up if we played in the SEC. As bad as we are on DEE at least in the ACC we have a chance to win against most of these teams.

Darth 360Cane

Do I scrape or go for the dive coach?

Ohio_Cane

Tim Reynolds ‏@ByTimReynolds 2m2 minutes ago

Miami has one national title in 23 years. Sort of wondering if the issues here go beyond safeties and linebackers playing too deep.

that was then this is now

Ohio,
That's a big starting point, along with probation and bad coaching hires. All teams go through lulls, it's how quick you can dig yourself out. hell we can't seem to find a shovel.

Darth 360Cane

Who here would have hired JJ without any hindsight?

HC at Okee State before coming to the []_[]:

1979 7-4
1980 3-7-1
1981 7-5
1982 4-5-2
1983 8-4

And Butch never HCed before he got here. I love everyone's hindsight picks though. Carry on.

SinisterCane

2014 - 51-52

The Dude

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 07, 2014 at 04:32 PM

Even more reason to act ASAP.

Texican cane

When we were hiring, he and Dan Mullen were the two hot young coaches a ton of programs were interested in. After this NCAA mess broke, had he wanted to bolt, a ton of schools would have snatched him up.

GC ..you're saying we picked the wrong hot young coach?

Texican cane

Why is Fentress over Dallas ?

Posted by: LaQuinton | October 07, 2014 at 02:35 PM
Because he will stay 12 yards off LOS and Dallas wants to be within 10 yards?

The Dude

http://www.tomahawknation.com/2010/12/14/1875977/canes-hire-of-al-golden-may-signal-the-u-isnt-in-it-to-win-it

Jason Whitlock article for anyone who hasn't read it by now.

The Dude

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sedano-says/2010/12/canes-jason-whitlock-not-sold-on-golden.html

Whitlock with Sedano.

The Dude

The stuff with Sedano is gold for lack of a better word. Its SO Al Golden.

The Dude

Al Golden's signature win? Getting hired.

30CINCO

How is this last year going to be any different than Randy's last year? And he was one of our own. We fired one of our own for this stuff, why not Al?

Posted by: The Dude | October 07, 2014 at 03:02 PM
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IMO, Randy was fired for more than just the on the field performance. You cannot keep the head coach on board who hired and kept a staff member who gets your school in trouble with the NCAA.

Many reports have come out that Randy was always telling his people to stay away. When the HC tells you NOT to do something and those staff members do not listen, do it anyways, AND get caught, the HC will pay the price.

Same thing that happened with Butch at UNC.

What is mind boggling is that Golden has a better record than Randy did at the same time, with HALF the 4/5 stars, yet people still want to bring up Randy as somehow being a better experience.

No one is saying anger is not warranted, but how the hell can someone say I hate Golden, look at his record while at the same time bring up what Randy did like it was better. If you hate losing, you hate losing with any and all.

WWIN

Why is Fentress over Dallas ?

Posted by: LaQuinton | October 07, 2014 at 02:35 PM

Bcuz Dallas is not as good as they claimed he was during spring and fall camp?

The Dude

Whoa! Whoa! I never said that I was happy with Randy. I'm just saying look at this year and compare it to Randy's and tell me why Randy didn't get an extra year. Why does Golden get an extra year? To me its foolish to give Al an extra year when its an exercise in futility, just as it would have been under Randy. I'm saying next man up for HC, we wont be any worse from it.

CaneRock

Posted by: 30CINCO | October 07, 2014 at 05:17 PM

#RANDYWHISPER

CaneRock

^^^^^^^^^ER

4-Real

Fentress is playing over Dallas because Golden is coach.

Sarasota 'cane

And Butch never HCed before he got here. I love everyone's hindsight picks though. Carry on.

Posted by: Darth 360Cane | October 07, 2014 at 04:47 PM

Sorry Charlie!! Huge fail on that post. Butch had a NC ring and 2 Superbowl Rings when he got to UM. Plus he had great references from some of the biggest names in pro and college athletics.

I cannot understand why anyone would want to marginalize Butch's coaching accomplishments while simultaneously supporting the abortion that we currently have at UM.

Choose Life!!

The Dude

Posted by: 30CINCO | October 07, 2014 at 05:17 PM

Also nice way to describe Al's record as being better than Randy's.

At the same time Randy 22-19, Al 22-18. Neither one deserve a 5th year. Why does Randy get canned, but Al gets a 5th year?

The Dude

Also, no one gives a sh*t about how many 4 or 5 star guys are on the team when you only play 1 team all year that has more than you.

CGNC

LOL Saratoa is on FIIYAH

4-Real

Dude, Randy had a much tougher hill 2 climb schedule wise than Golden.

SinisterCane

Posted by: 30CINCO | October 07, 2014 at 05:17 PM

You bring great counter debate to the Space but I believe no spacers brought up Randy

Sarasota 'cane

Posted by: 30CINCO | October 07, 2014 at 05:17 PM

I always love the "which coach is the worst of all time debate"!

Both Shannon and Golden have done "enough" damage to claim the worst coach prize, but I'll be damned if Golden isn't making a late push to take the title outright.

The Dude

This is f*cking stupid. I can't even believe people can suggest Al should get a 5th year in the modern age of CF. This guy is a failure and will continue to fail in 2015. AND he should get to keep his staff, yeah that makes a ton of sense. You're only going to get what you know is a failure.

SinisterCane

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | October 07, 2014 at 05:56 PM

That's gonna leave a mark

4-Real

One thing I will give Golden credit 4 is causing division on message blobs! Lol

The Dude

I brought up Randy because he was fired under the same circumstances. I want to know what Al has done to justify getting a 5th year? I find it funny that Randy was ran out in year 4 because his teams sucked and he was one of our own. But in year 4 of Golden under the same situation of loss after mind boggling loss, with a DC and Defense that we all know is garbage and Al has said he wont change, people still want to give him a 5th year? WHY? WHY? WHY? Why would you say give the man a 5th year?

The Dude

What has Al got left to prove? Are we trying to ruin our program forever and ever? There is a proven f*cking commodity sitting right in our laps and we don't have the balls to take it and win? Unacceptable!

Sarasota 'cane

WHY? WHY? WHY? Why would you say give the man a 5th year?

Posted by: The Dude | October 07, 2014 at 06:00 PM

It's a classic case of tripping over dollar bills to pick up shiny nickles!!

Can't wait to see the stadium shots for this Saturday's game. Remember bootlickers, it's a "green-out" this week!! The "orange-outs" have been a HUGE success this season. Let's keep the momentum going!!

The Dude

'Sota

I let The U worry about the money. As a fan, I dont want Al Golden anywhere near my team in 2015.

CaneRock

TD...you know why, but that discussion opens a whooooooole other can of worms.

AeroCane

Go Canes - 3 questions: 1) how old are you (cause you act like you're 12); 2) what is your relationship to Golden?
A true canes fan roots for his/her team to win NOT for a player or coach. 3) If golden leaves, are you still a fan of the canes or the high school that he moves on to?

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