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October 08, 2014

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TLuv

Luther was recruited for a different defense and missed a year with a leg injury and struggled at times to get back in shape. His senior year he had an average year. Now he's an average player on an average defense. I'm not seeing where Golden mishandled him really.

WWIN

Posted by: generalcane | October 09, 2014 at 02:46 PM

Welcome to Canespace, post here, post often!

You are now officially a hater! Lol

Ohio_Cane

Billy Corben ‏@BillyCorben 13m13 minutes ago

Mock-up of banner text scheduled to fly over Miami Hurricanes game at Sun Life Stadium around 10:40AM on Saturday: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzh0Y8aIYAA2pwf.jpg

TLuv

Posted by: SinisterCane | October 09, 2014 at 03:31 PM

That's true. But Forston underachieved under both coaches. He was just overrated out of HS imo. Spence was a solid player for us. Vernon was suspended for almost half the season and then bolted to the NFL. Ojomo was never anything special. I don't see a massive amount of talent with those names other than Spence. He's still one of my faves.

WWIN

Posted by: TLuv | October 09, 2014 at 03:34 PM

You remember when his dad blasted the staff? Sounds like he was right

1mg of epi

Luther was recruited for a different defense and missed a year with a leg injury and struggled at times to get back in shape. His senior year he had an average year. Now he's an average player on an average defense. I'm not seeing where Golden mishandled him really.
Posted by: TLuv | October 09, 2014 at 03:34 PM

Would think a player talented enough to be average in the NFL would be All ACC

TLuv

WWIN- I forgot about that! He kind of sounded like an idiot in that interview though. He just accused Golden of telling players not to rush the QB and said he didn't want to player players that were RS recruits which doesn't really hold water in my eyes because Golden played other RS recruits a lot. He just sounded like a dad who was mad his son wasn't playing. Can't blame him for that.

TLuv

Posted by: 1mg of epi | October 09, 2014 at 03:42 PM

One would think that. But there are some great players in the NFL that didn't play a lot in college or weren't All-Conference. I'm not saying Golden handled Luther perfectly and got the most talent out of him. I'm just saying just because he's playing in the NFL now doesn't mean Golden completely mishandled him.

WWIN

Posted by: TLuv | October 09, 2014 at 03:44 PM

Looks like he knew what he was talking about now!

TLuv

WWIN- If you say so. I don't see it though.

TJL

HUGE difference in college to the NFL

2002nemo


Billy Corben ‏@BillyCorben 13m13 minutes ago

Mock-up of banner text scheduled to fly over Miami Hurricanes game at Sun Life Stadium around 10:40AM on Saturday: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzh0Y8aIYAA2pwf.jpg


Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 09, 2014 at 03:37 PM

Beautiful! Gotta love the hate.
But it needs to fly at 12:40 PM and not just 10:40 AM.

SinisterCane

Posted by: TJL | October 09, 2014 at 03:56 PM

Flawless's scheme vs. any coach with a pulse, then hell yea

Canezitis

You guys think chad Morris would come here if golden is fired at the end of the season?

SinisterCane

Posted by: Canezitis | October 09, 2014 at 04:10 PM

No recruit is that important to keep the worst coaching staff in the country

Sarasota 'cane

No recruit is that important to keep the worst coaching staff in the country

Posted by: SinisterCane | October 09, 2014 at 04:13 PM

Post of the day!

Golden & Co cannot coach up the talent they have so stop worrying about the kids that will get away while he is still here.

This is a lame duck staff and everyone seems to know it except for a few delusional homers.

The clock to fix this problem will not start ticking until this mockery masquerading as a coaching staff is fired.

30CINCO

lol, Chad Morris is a coach

SinisterCane

Posted by: 30CINCO | October 09, 2014 at 04:21 PM

Who's Chad Morris?

1mg of epi

One would think that. But there are some great players in the NFL that didn't play a lot in college or weren't All-Conference. I'm not saying Golden handled Luther perfectly and got the most talent out of him. I'm just saying just because he's playing in the NFL now doesn't mean Golden completely mishandled him.

Posted by: TLuv | October 09, 2014 at 03:47 PM

True but lack of player development is the rule here, not the exception.

Ohio_Cane

You guys think chad Morris would come here if golden is fired at the end of the season?

Posted by: Canezitis | October 09, 2014 at 04:10 PM
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Clemson OC Chad Morris? Not sure.

fran

neat article on SB Nation on Chad Morris and the smashmouth spread offence of the Clemson tigers I doubt the canes coaches would learn anything from the article
Fran in Debary

JaxCane

Canesport.


Al Golden, right now, is like two different people. 

There is the Good Al, the supreme CEO, the guy who presents so well, privately demands massive commitment from those around him, is detailed and organized, a master PR man, a pillar of strength in the midst of crisis, a guy you want to see succeed in the worst way.

And then there is the other Al, the Bad Al, stubborn to his own detriment, slow to recognize why he is failing, even slower to adjust on game day, the talk of the town for all the wrong reasons four years after riding into Coral Gables on a white horse, a guy you just want to scream at and hope that he is listening because it is so tough to watch him self-destructing.

Those are the two beings that the Miami fan base, trustees, administrators, fans and everybody in between are trying to reconcile as the Hurricanes plod through their latest season of irrelevance, a torture chamber with no exit door.

John's Board of Trustee buddy has had enough. He wants a new coach and a new direction. There will be changes, he promises.

Mike's Board member friend laughs at the noise. No chance Donna Shalala is firing another football coach and getting into another multi-million dollar athletic buyout six months before retirement. In Golden they trust. He stood by The U through the toughest of times the past few years, was a pure rock, and now The U will stand by him through his own tough moments. 

Caught in the middle of these split souls is the man himself, who insists he is able to sequester himself from the chaos out here in the real world. But you know that is not true, can't possibly be. Golden is getting pounded in every corner of South Florida, at gas stations and grocery stores, at cafeterias and sports bars, on radio, TV and print. There is no way he and his family can shelter themselves from all this anger and hurt.

Horrible on offense on opening night at Louisville. The bad Al never adjusted in what was then and remains now a season-shaping game.

Pounded defensively at Nebraska and Georgia Tech. The softest, most passive defense you will ever see. Players on the field looking more like video game figures. Safeties lined up in the next area code in Lincoln, totally uninvolved in the game. The star middle linebacker lined up seven yards up the field all night in Atlanta, assaulted over and over by the center who didn't have a defensive tackle lined up in front of him to divert his attention. Nobody covering the pitch man on the option. And not a single noticeable adjustment at any time during the debacle.

The Good Al. Family man. A guy anybody would want to call his best buddy, especially the defensive coordinator who valued the relationship so deeply that he turned down a head coaching opportunity at Temple to move to South Florida with him and tackle this beast that is Miami.

The Bad Al. Failing Mark D'Onofrio and himself as an extension by not being his boss first and demanding something different and better from him despite their mounting and undeniable failures each and every season they have been at Miami. Together they are coming scary close to creating that sinking ship to go down with. The natives don't recognize the product they are putting out there on the football field on defense. They are angry, feeling betrayed by all of the potential greatness they felt they saw in the Good Al. They saw tough Good Al and are instead getting soft Bad Al. Soft doesn't sell this far South. If you are going to lose down in the 305, you better be doing it with submachine gun fire, not pellets. You have seen all the Chamber of Commerce pictures tweeted out by the Good Al. South Florida is one helluva place to call home. Except when you are a failing football coach, the path that the Bad Al appears in danger of taking himself by not addressing and correcting his mistakes.

The good Al knows that the season is now probably lost at 3-3, that he will be life and death to rally his team to bowl eligibility, to keep the kids invested for two more months. The bad Al is bracing for an end of season decision that he hoped he could avoid. His superiors are under siege too. They probably must demand change, if it is not proposed first, or their own careers might be in peril as a new President gets ready to get hired. It will be a change that the Bad Al resisted last December when his team was humiliated in the Russell Athletic Bowl. Now he has lost seven of his last 12 games and that need for something different is screaming at him in the loudest of voices. He can muffle it because he doesn't want to hear it. But he can't deny it because it is so resounding.

Change. That something different that will ultimately be discussed will probably involve telling D'Onofrio to get a new job, and that is something that the Good Al is not going to be able to stomach very easily. D'Onofrio is that good of a guy. They go back a couple decades to when they were the heart and soul of Penn State together. They are business partners. Maybe D'Onofrio just wasn't ready to coordinate a defense at this level of college football. There was nothing on his resume coming in to suggest that he was. Maybe even Golden was not ready for Miami either. But they have stuck together and shared the undying belief that they can make this defense better. And it is not better this year. Not against anybody who is any good. So now they are in a mess that Athletic Director Blake James undoubtedly will no longer be able to ignore if he wants to hold together all the progress the athletic department has made the past several months. James will likely hope first that Golden takes care of his business himself and presents that plan of change. But there are no guarantees in that regard.

The Good Al and the Bad Al are locked in conflict, one dragging the other in opposite directions but not finding paradise on either end of the spectrum.

For the Good Al to survive this storm, he is going to have to at least meet the Bad Al somewhere in the middle. There really is no other option. When it is Good vs. Bad, there usually is never a winner. Not in football. Not in life either.

Miami needs to find a glimmer of hope in the three months left of football in 2014. That will involve improvement on the football field beginning Saturday when Cincinnati comes to town. It will involve change.

It will involve the Good Al rising to the challenge and taking on the Bad Al. 

May the best man win.

Canezitis

Yes, Clemson's OC, not a recruit. I for one welcome a more spread type offense with all the skill position talent we have down here. Get back to the 4-3 on D and utilize the our smaller faster LB's in the area as well. Stop putting so much pressure on our safeties and just let them roam and be the ball hawk safeties they grew up being. The recipe for success is already there. Spread offense, smaller, faster 4-3 D. Always scratched my head why Golden keeps trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Maybe that's why he kept going to Jersey to get "his" guys. IDK. Chad or Chud sounds good to me.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Regardless of whether or not Al is the coach in 2015, I believe fully Mark will not be the DC. Unless of course Miami doesn't want to sell season tickets or any tickets for that matter. Mark is a dead man walking and no part of the 2015 plan includes him from The U.

CoCane

Firing No'D while keeping Golden is like trying to put out the smoke instead of the fire. Good luck with that...

Dude on a Pale Horse

I agree Co. I'm just giving my opinion that The U wont let Mark be the DC next year because outrage amongst everyone will mandate at the very least a change there. Starting 2015 with Mark as the DC isnt an option at this point, especially if you think attendence is bad now. When you consider the likely outcome of this season it becomes clear. Al wont be allowed to make that decision any more. My only hope is a new DC can do things their way.

Dude on a Pale Horse

If Mark starts 2015 as the DC the attendence will be laughable and The U will have to play their games at STA so the seats will look full. Mark as DC in 2015 is an economics decision in my opinion. One a cheap U cant make.

The Dude

Todd Gurley suspended indefinitely for possible NCAA violations.

The Dude

^^^ I posted that for Go Canes, lol. ^^^

He wants to point out that Al Golden didn't have a player suspended due to NCAA violations today. WOOHOO AL!

WWIN

WWIN- If you say so. I don't see it though.

Posted by: TLuv | October 09, 2014 at 03:53 PM

So he couldn't get off the bench for us in college and is doing good in the NFL his ROOKIE year and his NFL teammates are shocked he didn't start in college, but you don't see it? Okay lol

UMZed1313

I'm just tired of all of this. I don't care who fixes this just fix it! I can't wait till Saturday. I get out of the house from my beautiful newborn. No matter what happens cheer this team on! BTW this is my new name used to be pbcfrcane13 UMZed1313 is my twitter name. Go canes!

LaQuinton

Guys.. and some gals. Let's do this... let's just trust the process

Go Canes

Luther Robinson talk?

Lol.

WWIN

Todd Gurley suspended indefinitely for possible NCAA violations.

Posted by: The Dude | October 09, 2014 at 06:05 PM

Thanks! Now I feel a LOT better about our players that got suspended.

SinisterCane

Lol.

Posted by: Go Canes | October 09, 2014 at 06:44 PM


Yea NFL talent lol, can't wait to see how Golden;s DL recruits turn out

WWIN

Posted by: Go Canes | October 09, 2014 at 06:44 PM

EXACTLY!

Guys, please stop bringing up anybody that makes Golden look bad!

4-Real

Rite now EVERYBODY is Lol-ing @ our football program, not @ Green Bay Packer Luther Robinson.

WWIN

Beautiful! Gotta love the hate.
But it needs to fly at 12:40 PM and not just 10:40 AM.

Posted by: 2002nemo | October 09, 2014 at 03:59 PM

Nemo you a true hater! LMAO

LaQuinton

Sources tell CanesInSight that at this point it is nearly impossible to envision a scenario where D’Onofrio is back next season. Golden and D’Onofrio have not been on the same page this season and their relationship has become strained. Many believe that Golden has become frustrated at D’Onofrio’s ability to run the defense and beyond that he is not a guy who most in the building like to work with on a daily basis. 

From caneinsight.

Yeahh right. They are arguining.. beefing or not seeing eye to eye.. Golden will not fire his friend or ANYBODY .

Dude on a Pale Horse

Lol @ them beefing. But I honestly think The U wont let Golden have the choice anyways. There may be a Golden in 2015, I honestly dont believe their will be a D'Onofrio. Its the cheapest thing The U can do to save face and appease the masses. The U will want a guy that sparks confidence in the D and the people who buy season tickets. Call yourself a fan for going to the games and thats fine. We need that. But dont kid yourself if others say they wont spend the money they earn for this. I certainly wouldnt.

1mg of epi

Yeahh right. They are arguining.. beefing or not seeing eye to eye.. Golden will not fire his friend or ANYBODY .

Posted by: LaQuinton | October 09, 2014 at 07:07 PM

It doesn't matter who the D coach is... Goldens gonna have him run a prevent on 3rd and goal from the 5

Dude on a Pale Horse

I dont think thats completely true. A new guy, a new philosopy and a mandate fron The U that tells Golden hands off, I think that could be in Golden's future.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Typing on an iPhone is the worst.

LaQuinton

These programs can’t be down for long. Geography (and coaching changes) will eventually overcome that. The Gators win big when they have head coaches who run wide open offenses like they did withSteve Spurrier and Urban Meyer. It attracts the elite talent that makes Florida one of the top five gem jobs in America. Imagine a Mike Gundy or a Dan Mullen getting that gold mine. For Miami, recent years of using a pro-style offense and a 3-4 read/react defense has the local recruits in America’s most loaded hot bed jumping over one another to escape paradise and go elsewhere. Running a no huddle, no mercy uptempo offense hasn’t ever been tried by Miami, a program that resides in the backyard of the nation’s biggest speed haven. A wide open tempo offense would keep the local talent home, put up big points and put butts in seats. A novel concept. It might be the only way the “U” ever returns after a decade of being average. Guys who would run that type of system,Chad Morris or a Mario Cristobal (with all of his major south Florida recruiting ties) would be home runs. That’s if Miami’s administration is interested in being relevant again.

Got this from coaching search . Thoughts on this guys/gals

raizecane

Typing on an iPhone is the worst.

Posted by: The Dude | October 09, 2014 at 07:25 PM

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why are you typing?.....speak into the mic (LOL)

jcane

A few days ago the U sent out e-mail to alumni about a deal to get tix for the the FSU game, available through the end of the month. When was the last time the U was having trouble getting tickets sold for a game vs. FSU?! This is the kind of issue that could provoke more attention from the U to reevaluate its situation. Attendance is $, and $ talks. The key is that the U had better know who they'd go after before getting rid of anyone, and this could start, as already said, with the D coordinator. At OC, Coley is a great recruiter and a mediocre gameday coach, at best. The key about this staff, as has been said by folks here, ex-players, NFL management, etc. is that this staff doesn't develop players as well as they could or use schemes to make the most out of what they've got.

I will always love the U, but it's very hard to watch a team that makes it feel like every game things will just keep slipping away, with a few games working out in our favor (ie Duke). We have more talent than probably all in the ACC other than FSU, but we look average (and average in the ACC is below average).

I hope I'm wrong, as I'd love to see Golden succeed, but it looks more and more like he's just sliding. I suppose if he looks good vs. Cinci, he will have bought himself more time. A poor showing may up the process the other direction.

We shall see....

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: raizecane | October 09, 2014 at 07:43 PM

Then the wife knows I'm blogging and not ugh... checking an email for school... yeah that's the ticket.

Dude on a Pale Horse

LaQuinton that is so true. Wanna put butts in seats? Get a guy that will put 70 every night. You are competing for entertainment dollars, you'd better be entertaining, especially in a city that KNOWS how to have fun.

LaQuinton

I heard game one that it was not coley that held the offense back It was golden. I'm not 100% on that. I feel that coley is a ace recruiter but needs more innovation about putting the ball in the hands of playmakers. I feel that that we lack that. Even with Chad Morris it would be good to see somebody like him coming in but as he never has been a HC I'm college football would be alarming he can coach up a offense and he is THEE highest paid speaks volumes to Clemson saying they want to win. Even Brent Venables took a horrible defense over at Clemson and has them balling. Sucks in the middle of the season we are talking about this.

U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnHV5s7YqgA

LOL

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