Miami Has Many Options

The next head coach...the right head coach...can get this program back to a 10 win level by year two easily.

If Golden were to leave tomorrow and the right candidate came aboard, he would not find a team bereft of talent.

In fact, it would be far from it. And people like you and others with actual coaching experience (VACane) can speak to the fact that it is not being coached up. I say year two because many of the notable coaches achieved great success in year two as they took over programs that already had good talent waiting for them:

Pete Carroll, USC (Trojans 5-7 year before)
2001: 6-6
2002: 11-1

Bob Stoops, Oklahoma (Sooners 5-6 year before)
1999: 6-5
2000: 13-0 (NC)

Nick Saban, LSU (Tigers are 3-8 year before)
2000: 8-4
2001: 10-3

Nick Saban, Alabama (Tide is 6-7 year before)
2007: 6-6
2008: 12-2

Urban Meyer, Florida (Gators 7-5 year before) 
2005: 9-3
2006: 13-1 (National Championship)

Granted other coaches like Harbaugh or Briles took longer than two years, but they inherited programs that were more bereft of talent.

That is NOT the case of Miami next year.

Comments

[UMike]

until we resorted***

[nemo2002]

The MH says that UM is probably going to a "second tier" bowl game.

This then begs the question: Are there any "third tier" bowl games?

[SinisterCane]

If you don't understand how ridiculous and ignorant you look when you typed that, it's not worth having a conversation.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 01, 2014 at 10:21 AM

No need for name calling:

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/page+5

[UMike]

We will be in a third tier bowl, second tier is for the 8-4 teams

[dj moonbat]

The MH says that UM is probably going to a "second tier" bowl game.

This then begs the question: Are there any "third tier" bowl games?

Posted by: nemo2002 | December 01, 2014 at 10:27 AM

I was struck by that headline, too. My mom who went to UM is visiting for Thanksgiving, and we shared a good laugh over that one. We tried to find the bowl with the lamest name. "Famous Idaho Potato Bowl" was my candidate.

[CaneRock]

No the defense didn't improve, I don't give a damn what the stats say...we're 6-6! Chick got WORSE!...McCord is getting WORSE!...Pierre got WORSE! SHEEZ!, look at the Louisville,NU,GT, & Pitt games to name a few, and look at how they get MANHANDLED! in this PATHETIC! scheme.

[SinisterCane]

Golden is the new Cloud

[nemo2002]

I smelt Donna Wisconsin losers stench years ago with that Harvard of the South nonsense and UM ranks maybe 3 spot higher than UF. SHM

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 01, 2014 at 09:34 AM

Lol.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 01, 2014 at 09:51 AM

Moreover, there are probably four other schools in the ACC (Duke, NC, VA, GT) which, academically, rank higher than UM. (Nevertheless, we are CONVINCINGLY ranked higher, academically, than both L'ville and FSU).

[CaneRock]

And look at that article UMike posted, Chad Thomas had 0 SACKS! He's getting worse from JUMP!

[SinisterCane]

Posted by: CaneRock | December 01, 2014 at 10:36 AM

All those players played their best in the freshman yrs., Hmmmmm

[nemo2002]

The MH says that UM is probably going to a "second tier" bowl game.

This then begs the question: Are there any "third tier" bowl games?

Posted by: nemo2002 | December 01, 2014 at 10:27 AM

I was struck by that headline, too. My mom who went to UM is visiting for Thanksgiving, and we shared a good laugh over that one. We tried to find the bowl with the lamest name. "Famous Idaho Potato Bowl" was my candidate.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 01, 2014 at 10:32 AM

The "Famous Idaho Potato Bowl" was previously the "Humanitarian Bowl", which used to be my choice for the oddest postseason bowl name.

[dj moonbat]

No the defense didn't improve, I don't give a damn what the stats say...we're 6-6! Chick got WORSE!...McCord is getting WORSE!...Pierre got WORSE! SHEEZ!, look at the Louisville,NU,GT, & Pitt games to name a few, and look at how they get MANHANDLED! in this PATHETIC! scheme.

Posted by: CaneRock | December 01, 2014 at 10:36 AM

In an advanced technological economy, you can't just throw away inconvenient numbers. I don't like the scheme, but I have to admit that even with massive failures against physical running teams, it is currently #15 in total defense over basically the whole season. (It may even go up, if a good defense or two gets clobbered in a conference championship game.)

I still think we should replace the defensive staff, because -- unlike them -- I think you should adjust your scheme when you play physical running teams, rather than insist that if players made the right reads, everything would work out fine. But arguing that the defense got worse is just not a claim that you can defend with any facts.

[mi@mic@ne]

Maybe there is an Illegal Alien Bowl on the Mexican border....we could force the Mexicans who are using it as a temporary facility to attend the game..We might get them to go back to Mexico after they watch how bad we play...lol

[Go Canes]

You are correct again dj.

[TonyCane`]

How about a Politically Correct Bowl. Each team could punt the ball on first down, cheerleaders for each school cheer for the other team, and people hug instead of tackling.

[CaneRock]

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 01, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Rushing defense in 6 losses...

271 rushes, for 1,326 yards, and 15 TDs.

[SinisterCane]

Golden was a NO Show on WQAM, lol

[The Dude]

^^^ ouch.

[raizecane]

I dont like to jump into the coaching conversation because we all know Golden isnt going anywhere until maybe after 2015.

But I did see alot of names thrown out and would like to add 2 more

1) Tony Dungy
2) Josh Mcdaniels - OC for the Patriots

Thoughts on any of these 2?

[The Dude]

this thing (^^^) never works for me.

[CaneRock]

LMAO! Akron did a better job against the run against Pitt, than we did.

[SinisterCane]

Never Shannon but if your going fire Coker who won a championship for the U why hold on to Golden?

[TonyCane`]

I thought about Josh McDaniels this morning. Interesting pick, but I imagine he would be more interested in another NFL HC position than a college job.

If the Patriots win the SuperBowl this year, he'll probably get another shot somewhere.

[TonyCane`]

SinisterCane...standards were higher then. And we were on a clear downward trend with him.

[SinisterCane]

Until we get a better AD and not a puppet expect more of the same

[mi@mic@ne]

We could have the Dance Off Bowl...instead of watching it as a football game we could have judges in the crowd giving the Canes a grade on how the d line holds their blocks. They could have cards that are marked with numbers 1 to 10 they hold up after each play depending upon long they keep the block and how close they stay to their partner.

[UpNorthCane27]

Josh Mcdaniels would be a good hire but we would be searching for another coach within 2 years as i believe the NFl is where he wants to be at.

The one candidate that i like the most was the one Soup presented.

Winston Moss!!!

[SinisterCane]

Posted by: TonyCane` | December 01, 2014 at 11:19 AM

The championship standard where lowered by Donna - mission accomplished

[CaneRock]

Josh Mcdaniels would be a good hire but we would be searching for another coach within 2 years as i believe the NFl is where he wants to be at.

Posted by: UpNorthCane | December 01, 2014 at 11:28 AM

So. With the exception of Coker, all of our NC winning coaches moved on to the NFL or WFL.

[SinisterCane]

Josh Mcdaniels traded UP to draft Tebow as his franchise QB, no thanks

[raizecane]

I really dislike Dan Selio but would love to know what his thoughts are on this team and coaching staff.

[raizecane]

^^ Sileo ^^

[The Dude]

Manny's article says it all.

[UpNorthCane27]

HC- Winston Moss
OC- James Coley (last chance to really show up)
TE-?
RB- Ice harris (hope he stays on the staff)
WR- ? (would we take a hit if brennan was let go?)
Oline- kehoe would probably stay

DC- Greg Schiano or anyone who isnt a Vag!!!!
Dline- kevin patrick
Lb- Hurlie brown
CB- Ed Reed/mike rumph

[TheeMackJones]

Canerock... Looks like the article u posted says what I was trying to say.
If Manny says the admin doesn't care, it's safe to say the admin doesn't care.

Oh well. I know where I'm not spending a dime from here on out.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 01, 2014 at 09:17 AM

I've been BLOVIATING since the firing of Coach Coker, that Thee Powers That Be at Miami, Florida DON'T give a " U Know What " ( Thank U Winslow ) about Hurricane football!

Damn, WAKE THE freak' up Cane fandom!! And please connect the proverbial Orange and Green dots ( At least Mr. Campbell's soup has FINALLY connected the dots. LOL ).

Again, back in December 2006 the University President, AD, Board of Trustees and multi-million dollar boosters had the first of TWO GRAND OPPORTUNITIES, to successfully hire a PROVEN, ESTABLISHED head coach. But tragically FAILED in that endeavor! And now serious, loyal Miami fandom have witnessed the results of that FAUX PAS this season under Golden and D'Onofrio.

Flash back to the sad ending of one of Miami, Florida's OWN.

Second grand opportunity in 2010. Enter stage right Thee Carpetbagger's.

Once again Miami's AD, President, Board of Trustee's and yes the multi-million dollar boosters felt all good and comfy in the hiring of a UNPROVEN head coach and his defensive assistant.

Bottom line: Golden and D'Onofrio have now had NINE seasons to PROVE they're capable of coaching at the Power Five level and have shown their INCOMPETENCE time and time and time again!

By the way, Richie Rodriques ( 10-2 Arizona ) doesn't seen to have trouble getting SEVENTEEN starting former " 3-Star " high school stars playing at championship level. Go figure.

And the Wildcats ARE NOT a football school and had two losing seasons prior to the arrival of Richi R. SMH

Oh. Arizona, under Rodriques has won it's last two bowl games ( Finished 8-5 ) and will playing for the PAC-12 championship in Richie's THIRD SEASON in scorching hot Tucson. SMH

By the way, Coach Rodriques earn LESS money than that Carpetbagger NO.1.

[TheeMackJones]

Shalala is giving us lip service whenever she speaks about winning. I still expect to hear something today.

Posted by: The Dude | December 01, 2014 at 09:22 AM

VOILA!!!

U can also include that AD and the VAST MAJORITY of the Board of Trustee's too.

[CaneRock]

By the way, Coach Rodriques earn LESS money than that Carpetbagger NO.1.

Posted by: TheeMackJones | December 01, 2014 at 11:40 AM

Yeah, but RR has a sweet deal with one of those rich oil-men in Arizona to boost His salary.

[LB]

If Golden remains in 2015, I'm not watching college football. Life's too short to remain pissed all the time.

[TheeMackJones]

Simple Macky Wacky mathmatics.

ACC bowl game revenue, television contracts and the mens NCAA TOURNAMENT!

Those " three cash cows " are WHY the Powers That Be at Miami, Florida are quite CONTENT with Thee Carpetbaggers, and will continue to sigh and shrug their cowardly shoulders and collectively say La-Dee Dee, La-Dee Dah, as the Hurricanes conclude another .500 season or 7-5/8-4 seasons under Golden and D'Onofrio.

Oh. Again, because of the money revenue coming in from the " three Golden parachutes mentioned above, " the attendence figures DON'T matter to the President, AD and Board of Trustee's.

[UMike]

If Golden remains in 2015, I'm not watching college football. Life's too short to remain pissed all the time.

Posted by: LB | December 01, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Same here, I will spend my Saturdays watching local youth football instead

[SinisterCane]

I love when people say: "Donna steered UM out of the NCAA mess." but she played role leading us into it

[canesteeler]

Manny's article basically states the football program is doomed. If the administration doesn't give a fukk about football we the fans are fighting a losing battle.

[dj moonbat]

Rushing defense in 6 losses...

271 rushes, for 1,326 yards, and 15 TDs.

Posted by: CaneRock | December 01, 2014 at 11:14 AM

I'm not saying the rushing defense is good, only that it has improved. And incredibly, it's true. Last year, 38th in rushing D. This year, 37th.

The one area where I think Miami might have regressed on defense is first downs surrendered (49th nationally in 2014). I'm looking for the full FBS stats for 2013.

[The Dude]

If Golden remains in 2015, I'm not watching college football. Life's too short to remain pissed all the time.

Posted by: LB | December 01, 2014 at 11:47 AM

Same here, I will spend my Saturdays watching local youth football instead

Posted by: UMike | December 01, 2014 at 11:54 AM

I've been expressing as much for a couple of weeks now. I'm not sure I will come back to the Canes. Too many ties are severed and their lack of interest in winning I simply don't have to put up with. If they don't make drastic changes, I'm filing the paperwork for fan free agency. Miami's new president will have to win me on the free market. Anyone know a good agent? WW?

[dj moonbat]

Yeah, UM's defense was slightly lower ranked in 2014 at total number of first downs. (87th, vs. 84th in 2013.)

But scoring d, total d, rushing d, and passing d are all improved.

[TheeMackJones]

I love when people say: "Donna steered UM out of the NCAA mess." but she played role leading us into it

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 01, 2014 at 11:56 AM

Yes! Coach Onion Head, also, WARNED the players about NS and probably WARNED Shalala too. But she most likely DIDN'T listen to one iota word Coach Onion Head told her. SMH

[j.w.]

Butch Davis' "Harvard" comment is a non story.

Posted by: The Dude | December 01, 2014 at 12:31 AM
Not sure about that- he has been saying that line since the 80's when he as an asst. at UM. And everyone who heard it back then thought he was dead serious, it wasn't the joke that he made it out to be. For a school that has referred to itself as the "Harvard of the South" that is not going to play well.

[TheeMackJones]

And look at that article UMike posted, Chad Thomas had 0 SACKS! He's getting worse from JUMP!

Posted by: CaneRock | December 01, 2014 at 10:39 AM

LOL.., U can alson throw in Anthony C and a host of other defensive players.

[Go Canes]

Remember when many on here ripped me for saying for years our facilities have been a gigantic disadvantage?

The answer was always that they'd done it for years without them.

I'd always answer its a new ballgame, an arms race where the stakes get higher by the year. Manny's article shows how much it's hurt.

I disagree the administration doesn't care. They've spent millions upgrading them, with more on the way. The massive upgrades to Sun Life will help too.

They just waited WAY, WAY too long in doing it. That was a massive failure on their part.

With regards to Golden, they're just not going to saddle his remaining five years on a new President. He'll have next year, like it or not.

[UMike]

When you take a DE and blow him up to the size of a DT, it will be hard for him to get many sacks.