The Cloud Often Rains Fertile Water On FSU

The only one that benefited from the "Cloud" that hung over the fate of the UM program from August 2011 to October 2013 was Florida State.

It was the same scenario as when the Seminoles benefited from Miami's fall from grace and UM had sanctions to deal with in the mid-90s.

Is it any coincidence that FSU's true dominance comes during periods of Miami sanctions and the after effects of investigations?

Year / Miami Record / FSU Record:

1990: Miami: 10-2, FSU: 10-2 
1991: Miami: 12-0, FSU: 11-2
1992: Miami: 11-1, FSU: 11-1
1993: Miami: 9-3, FSU: 12-1
1994: Miami: 10-2, FSU: 10-1-1
1995: Miami: 8-3, FSU: 10-2
1996: Miami: 9-3, FSU: 11-1
1997: Miami: 5-6, FSU: 11-1
1998: Miami: 9-3, FSU: 11-2
1999: Miami: 9-4, FSU: 12-0

2000: Miami: 11-1, FSU: 11-2
2001: Miami: 12-0, FSU: 8-4
2002: Miami: 12-1, FSU: 9-5
2003: Miami: 11-2, FSU: 10-3
2004: Miami: 9-3, FSU: 9-3
2005: Miami: 9-3, FSU: 8-5
2006: Miami: 7-6, FSU: 7-6
2007: Miami: 5-7, FSU: 7-6
2008: Miami: 7-6, FSU: 9-4
2009: Miami: 9-4, FSU: 7-6

2010: Miami: 7-6, FSU: 10-4
2011: Miami: 6-6, FSU: 9-4
2012: Miami: 7-5, FSU: 12-2
2013: Miami: 9-4, FSU: 14-0
2014: Miami: 6-3, FSU: 9-0

Miami Pell Grant investigation, sanctions and rebuilding last from 1993 - 2000. FSU plays in national championship games in 93, 96, 98, 99, and 00. During that time they have a record of 88-10-1.

The Shapiro investigation began in the fall of 2010 and NCAA verdict came last fall. Minor sanctions continue. During that time, FSU goes 44-6 and plays in a national championship game.

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Comments

[jsy]

Firstp

[Terrance Sullivan]

Oh My last year's Canespace tailgate was off the chain. The game not so much. Hope this year our Canes beat FSU. That is all.

[IraqiCane]

Happy Veterans Day all. Beat FSU!!!

[YooperCane]

What comes around, goes around. FSU will go down!

[86Cane]

My boys, TSully and NativeCane, doing the "Seminole Chop"!

[86Cane]

FSU will go down!

Posted by: YooperCane | November 11, 2014 at 09:20 PM

[tees it up]

[KYcane]

That's what she did?

[KYcane]

Native,

Still working on my plans to get over your way this week. My target keeps moving. I will email you if I can work it out.

[86Cane]

"I never kew me a better time,
And I guess I never will."

Name the music artist?

[KYcane]

Terrance,

I will email you tomorrow.

[KYcane]

Posted by: 86Cane | November 11, 2014 at 09:28 PM

Don McClean

[86Cane]

That's what she did?

Posted by: KYcane | November 11, 2014 at 09:27 PM

So, I'm jus saying, right?

[86Cane]

Don McClean

Posted by: KYcane | November 11, 2014 at 09:29 PM

NEGATIVE

[KYcane]

Elton John

[86Cane]

SI!

[86Cane]

KYCane...had U been there and seen that, with Native and Sully working the FSU crowd like they did U would have been, well, in a word: PERPLEXED.

Native had the ribs working
Sully had the groove thing working
OldSkool was cool and calm under pressure
And my oh my what a gloriuos day it was.

[dj moonbat]

I will be happy if we can beat FSU.

I refuse to dwell on the subject in any greater depth than that. I've been hurt too many times.

[86Cane]

I've been hurt too many times.

Posted by: dj moonbat | November 11, 2014 at 09:38 PM

That is what we ALL said.

The pain is great.

The hope is strong.

The faith is growing.

The need is to win.

[86Cane]

This is as fun as it gets! Can U imagine the landscape change in college football WHEN we beat FSPOO with a freshman QB?

#OhMy

[KYcane]

Posted by: 86Cane | November 11, 2014 at 09:37 PM

We will be doing our best to hold down the fort Saturday.

[Terrance Sullivan]

KYcane Sounds good brotha!

[KYcane]

WWIM:

Senior outside hitter Savanah Leaf was selected the ACC Player of the Week for the third time this season

Read more here;

http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=209759927

[jcane]

Appropriate song, Soup, as Saturday night is indeed alright for fighting....this week.

Looking forward to this game.

For those monitoring recruits, one of our big D draws, Perry from Royal Palm Beach is in the top 4 in rushing in Palm Beach county, being a big bruiser and getting the ball a lot. He's taken the team straight through to a district championship. Great athlete.

[CaneRock]

Is it any coincidence that FSU's true dominance comes during periods of Miami sanctions and the after effects of investigations?

Posted by: TonyCane | November 11, 2014 at 08:18 PM

It sure does...wouldn't surprise me one bit, if they were the ones hollin' "Death Penalty" inside "The Fence".

[86Cane]

FOR MY BOI WWIM:

The University of Miami volleyball program swept the ACC weekly awards, earning both the Player of the Week and Freshman of the Week for Nov. 10, 2014.

Senior outside hitter Savanah Leaf was selected the ACC Player of the Week for the third time this season, while freshman setter Haley Templeton earned her fourth ACC Freshman of the Week honor.

“This is a special week for our program,” Miami head coach Jose “Keno” Gandara said. “To have Savanah, a senior, and Haley, a freshman, recognized in the same week is a big deal. They both continue to improve and it’s great to see them both get recognized for their work.”

Leaf earned her third Player of the Week honor after playing a key role in Miami’s two victories this past weekend. The San Anselmo, Calif., native recorded a team-best 10th double-double of the season in a three-set sweep over Louisville and posted a team-high 17 kills in Sunday’s four-set victory over Virginia. Leaf, who entered the weekend ranked 10th in the country and atop the ACC with 4.71 kills/set, recorded 10 kills and a team-high 12 digs against the Cardinals. Two days later, Leaf led all players with 17 kills, adding seven digs, two blocks and a service ace in Miami’s four-set win over the Cavaliers.

“It is really exciting,” Leaf said. “ Haley is having an amazing freshman year and I am really happy for her. I think this weekend we had a more balanced offense and that was in part due to Haley and the other hitters who played really well. They helped open up opportunities for me, as well.”

Templeton takes home her second consecutive Freshman of the Week award, and fourth overall, after dishing out 81 assists over two matches this past weekend. The Alpharetta, Georgia, native finished the weekend with an impressive 11.57 assists/set, distributing 41 assists in Miami’s sweep of Louisville and recorded 40 assists in the Hurricanes’ victory over Virginia on Sunday. Templeton added six service aces, five kills and five blocks on the weekend.

“It has been a privilege to play as a freshman with such an outstanding hitter like Savanah,” Templeton said. “I think with both of us winning, it shows how teamwork and hard work pay off.”

[86Cane]

“It is really exciting,” Leaf said.

[TEES IT UP]

[CaneRock]

WWIM...#4's a Middle Blocker, I don't see it.

Now #21, She's an Outside Hitter...go for it big dawg.

[YooperCane]

At the start of the season up until the GT game had me pondering as to where the team was headed. The blame game for why this team wasn't gelling, coaches, players, schemes and play calling. I am soooo glad I am not a coach!! I admit that in the back of my mind would beating FSU be feasible after the GT game...hmmm...probably not. Now? the light had finally come on, don't care how it came on, but it did and they are clicking. I am sooo happy that the FSU game came in late November rather than in the beginning. We had are ups and downs up to this point and now it is our time to shine and shine bright on the national stage. We have what it takes to take FSU down. This is our F@@ckin' house and I will be damned if the Canes let them come in our house and push us around! Let's do this!!!

[The Dude]

F*cking cold in Idaho today @ -7 degrees.

[CaneRock]

If I didn't know any better, I'd say FSU runs an old school 4-4 defense, with 46 influences.

[Sarasota 'cane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJxOOhtUuTk&feature=youtu.be&list=UUwNqHDsnBCKT-olwJwIFyfg

[UMike]

Big, bad Florida State defensive end Mario Edwards is coming after University of Miami quarterback Brad Kaaya.

No surprise there.

“Bother him, bother him early,” Edwards told reporters in Tallahassee. “Hit him, hit him often.”

Also not surprising: Kaaya will likely not be flustered — at least not before he gets his first introduction to the 6-3, 294-pound junior who has nine tackles for loss in the past five games.

The Hurricanes’ true freshman quarterback is barely a novice by now, even though Saturday’s 8 p.m. showdown at Sun Life Stadium will be his first time facing the defending national champion Seminoles (9-0, 6-0 Atlantic Coast Conference).

Does Kaaya look at this as an enormous challenge or an enormous opportunity?

“It’s an enormous opportunity to prove something to the world,” he said of the Hurricanes (6-3, 3-2).

“A lot of people doubted us. I’m sure a lot of people still continue to, and they have good reason to. We just have got to keep progressing as a team and keep doing what we’ve been doing these last couple months.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article3793896.html#storylink=cpy

[Lurker]

LOL

Remember how three games ago people wanted Butch Davis hired immediately?

http://time.com/3578603/unc-academic-fraud-mcadoo-lawsuit/

He'd be lucky to be hired as a quality control coordinator at a D-3 school now. His trying to explain away his "if you want an education, you should have gone to Harvard" remark is comical. The "dog ate my homework" comes off as more credible.

He's done.

[30CINCO]

UM QB Brad Kaaya awaits first test against FSU
BY SUSAN MILLER [email protected]

Big, bad Florida State defensive end Mario Edwards is coming after University of Miami quarterback Brad Kaaya.

No surprise there.

“Bother him, bother him early,” Edwards told reporters in Tallahassee. “Hit him, hit him often.”

Also not surprising: Kaaya will likely not be flustered — at least not before he gets his first introduction to the 6-3, 294-pound junior who has nine tackles for loss in the past five games.

The Hurricanes’ true freshman quarterback is barely a novice by now, even though Saturday’s 8 p.m. showdown at Sun Life Stadium will be his first time facing the defending national champion Seminoles (9-0, 6-0 Atlantic Coast Conference).

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article3793896.html#storylink=cpy

[30CINCO]

Tale of the Tape: Breaking down UM-FSU
By Manny Navarro, miamiherald.typepad.com

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2014/11/tale-of-the-tape-breaking-down-um-fsu.html

[30CINCO]

Exploring reasons behind UM's defensive improvement
By Barry Jackson, miamiherald.typepad.com

BUZZ COLUMN

The UM defense that faces its biggest challenge Saturday is so improved from a month ago that it actually ranks higher than undefeated FSU’s defense in most significant statistics, including yards allowed per game (11th; FSU is 50th) and scoring defense (27th to 34th).

So with UM allowing just 314 yards per game over the past three, what's the explanation for the turnaround?

Here are 10 reasons cited this week by coaches, players and others inside the program:

### Dramatically better linebacker play, which is critical to this defense. “I don’t know if anybody is more improved over the past four weeks than Raphael Kirby,” Al Golden said.

Denzel Perryman --– somewhat neutralized against Nebraska and Georgia Tech --- has been a force the past three games against Cincinnati/Virginia Tech/North Carolina (27 tackles, his most over a three-game stretch this season).

Thurston Armbrister has continued his surprisingly good work (he has a team-high seven tackles for loss), and Jermaine Grace (two sacks and two fumble recoveries in this three-game stretch) is blossoming before our eyes.

### Alignment tweaks and maximizing blitz calls. Strategy is the topic that many fans gravitate toward in discussing this defensive resurgence because their eyes tell them UM is playing more aggressively and taking more chances.

Safety Nantambu Fentress conceded today that UM has “made some adjustment” with alignments, with safeties lining up closer at times, including on the goal line, and “wider” some other times.

"We want to be precise in the alignments," Fentress said of the linebackers and defensive backs. "It's fine-tuning."

But aside from that, Fentress insists coordinator Mark D’Onofrio “hasn’t changed anything.” Al Golden maintained “we haven’t changed play calling.”

Raphael Kirby said D’Onofrio is “not changing the scheme. He’s been calling the same calls. Just the way we execute them is different. We don’t feel we can be stopped.”

And though some fans and ex-players are skeptical of this --- judging by social media --- D’Onofrio absolutely swears UM hasn’t blitzed any more the past three games than previous ones.

But here’s the difference nobody can dispute: The blitz calls have been more successful recently.

To wit: When D’Onofrio had safety Deon Bush blitz against Nebraska, the Cornhuskers threw a 40-yard TD pass. Against North Carolina, Bush, Artie Burns and Corn Elder got to the quarterback for sacks on blitzes.

“We’ve been running corner blitzes all year,” Golden said, bristling when asked by another media person if this is something new.

When D’Onofrio sent Kirby on a run blitz on a third and inches on Virginia Tech’s first possession, Kirby made a tackle for loss. “The time he calls the [run blitz], he’s doing a great job,” Kirby said.

D’Onofrio said Monday UM’s cornerbacks actually are playing less man coverage than a year ago. Cornerbacks are lining up closer to the line at times, with some of UM’s corners more comfortable doing that than others.

But players insist there has been no philosophical change, and in fact, D'Onofrio --- much earlier in the season --- encouraged one of his cornerbacks to play closer to the line.

Though UM fans tweeted still shots from the Nebraska and Georgia Tech games showing corners playing well off receivers, I’ve also seen still shots of UM corners playing very tightly on receivers in the Nebraska game. So this issue shouldn’t be overstated.

### UM has been forcing more turnovers (eight the past three games) and been much better defending third downs (UNC and Virginia Tech were 8 for 27).

### Simple stuff such as better tackling. “So much better than earlier in the season; dramatically better than a year ago,” Golden said. “If we miss a tackle, we’re missing to our leverage so we don’t give up explosive plays.”

And UM is making fewer mental errors; it’s no coincidence that UM hasn’t had a practice shortened or moved inside by weather in the past few weeks after more than 15 were interrupted in August and September. Fact is, UM can't accomplish nearly as much when practices are moved inside.

As Tyriq McCord said, everyone on defense now knows where they’re supposed to be, and practice and experience are significant reasons for that.

### Personnel changes. On third-down passing situations, UM is now often using Chad Thomas, Anthony Chickillo, McCord and Darrion Owens --- a quartet that has played well together… Elder and Burns are playing more at cornerback, and though Tracy Howard still plays, he has been less prominent. Why? Elder and Burns are faster than Howard and more consistent tacklers.

### Time of possession. UM, which has lagged in the bottom quarter nationally in TOP, has a 99 to 81 minute edge over the past three games largely because its running game is thriving. That means the defense is on the field less and isn’t being worn down. That's big.

### Level of competition. Don’t overlook this. Stopping the run has been UM’s biggest weakness until recently, and Georgia Tech is third nationally in yards rushing per game and Nebraska 10th.

The last three opponents? Cincinnati is 72nd, Virginia Tech 98th and North Carolina 103rd.

FSU, by the way, is 101st, but Jameis Winston, Rashad Greene, etc. compensate for that in the passing game.

### Young players developing. Newcomers Thomas, Owens, Calvin Heurtelou, Courtel Jenkins and Michael Wyche have made strides in recent weeks, as have sophomores Burns, Elder and Grace.

### Bush's good work. Tentative last season because of a sports hernia, he’s playing faster and has done his best work recently, including a sack and interception against North Carolina and a forced fumble vs. Virginia Tech.

### A more stout defensive line and a much-improved McCord. Again, level of competition is a factor here. But McCord --- who at one time was undersized to play defensive end --- has held up better against the run recently and has two sacks in the past three games. And his 46-yard interception return vs. Cincinnati was exceptional.

“He’s gotten stronger, is playing more physical,” Golden said. “He’s stronger than he has been. He always had the ability to pass rush. He’s better on first and second down than he has been.”

Anthony Chickillo has been very solid recently, and the defensive tackle work has been competent. But McCord has made the biggest strides among the defensive linemen, considering his previous shortcomings against the run.

By the way, some have asked whether Golden has become more involved in defensive game-planning in the past month.

I asked him that today, and he said he has not been, but quickly added that he always has been involved in game-planning on offense, defense and special teams. Fentress said Golden hasn't attended any more defensive meetings recently than he has in the past and hasn't spent any more time with the defense during practice.

### The comparison of the UM and FSU defenses might surprise you. As noted, UM is 27th in scoring defense (21.9); FSU 34th (22.3). UM is 10th in passing yards allowed per game, FSU 80th.

UM is 31st in rushing yards relinquished per game, FSU 35th. UM is 33rd in sacks, FSU 83rd.

And UM is 46th in third down defense, FSU 81st.

"For the coaches and players, I think they deserve some credit for doing a great job thus far," D'Onofrio said Monday.

By the way, FSU has played five games without end Mario Edwards, one of three five-star players who start for the Seminoles, along with Eddie Goldman and Jalen Ramsey. UM has two five-star defensive players (Howard and Thomas), but neither starts.

[30CINCO]

Into the Numbers: Brad Kaaya's True Freshman Season is Best of the Century
By Alejandro Narciso, www.stateoftheu.com

Week after week fans and media praise the 19-year old Cali kid from Chaminade High School. "What poise he has, what maturity he has, what intelligence he has." These compliments are now regularities in Coral Gables. It's already known that Brad Kaaya is the best QB Miami has seen since Ken Dorsey, but how good is he in the grand scheme?

The words "true freshman" are constantly thrown around in pure disbelief when mentioning Kaaya. So it got me wondering how he compares to past quarterbacks who started their first year in college. For the sake of brevity I only chose to compare him to the best of the best true freshman starters of the past. Those names are Matthew Stafford, Robert Griffin iii, Matt Barkley, Teddy Bridgewater, Terrelle Pryor and Braxton Miller.

Read More here:
http://www.stateoftheu.com/2014/11/11/7192123/into-the-numbers-brad-kaayas-true-freshman-season-is-best-of-the

[Ohio_Cane]

Miami Hurricanes ‏@MiamiHurricanes 7m7 minutes ago

Everything you need to know about game day: http://gocan.es/FSUPregame #BeatFSU

[30CINCO]

Florida State’s Weaknesses: Areas Where The Miami Hurricanes May Have An Advantage
By Sam Jacobs, caneswarning.com

If it is possible to struggle while maintaining the longest winning streak, 25 games, since the Miami Hurricanes of the early 2000’s, the Florida State Seminoles are demonstrating it. Although Miami’s next opponent has the most talented roster the Canes will face, they certainly have some holes.

There are a couple of positions and tendencies that Miami has to take advantage of, because they might actually have an advantage.

Offensive Line
Before the season, Florida State’s offensive line projected as one of the nation’s best. Through 9 games, “disappointing” is a word that would accurately describe this unit. It features left tackle Cam Erving, left guard Josue Matias, center Ryan Hoefield, right guard Tre Jackson, and right tackle Bobby Hart. Each of them is a senior except Hoefield, a redshirt freshman. More likely than not, Erving, Matias, and Jackson will hear their names called in the 2015 draft; however, this talent has not produced great results. The Seminoles rank 84th in the country in rushing yards per carry with 4.0 and 104th in rushing yards per game with 129.9. Poor offensive line play, particularly on the interior, has contributed significantly to this letdown. With the improvement of Miami’s run defense and recent aggressive play calling we have seen, I think the Hurricanes could have the upper hand here. The battle of the trenches is usually the key to games, and this game will be no exception.

Slow Starts
Dating back to last season, the Seminoles have gotten off to slow starts. Despite being exponentially better than just about every team on their schedule, Florida State has let teams hang around in games. Last season they played Boston College, Miami, Florida, and Duke close in the first halves before proceeding to dominant victories. This season, they have either fallen behind early or played close throughout against Oklahoma State, Clemson, NC State, Notre Dame, Louisville, and most recently Virginia. This includes double-digit deficits against NC State and Louisville. Should they fall behind to the Hurricanes on Saturday, the hole may be too deep to dig out of. In front of what should be a raucous crowd, the Canes need to jump out to a fast start and make Florida State play catch-up.

Interception-Prone
Following last season’s Heisman campaign, Jameis Winston has taken a step back. He threw 10 interceptions all of last season, but has thrown 11 this season through just 8 starts. This includes four multiple-interception games. Winston frequently attempts to force passes into tight holes. He threw two interceptions in last season’s Miami-Florida State matchup. In order to upset the No. 2 team in the country, the Canes will need to force at least one turnover.

Wide Receiver
If you have ever watched Florida State play, you already know that Rashad Greene can shred a secondary. Aside from catching everything thrown his way, Greene gets targeted by Jameis Winston because at times he is the only reliable option. True freshmen and local products Travis Rudolph and Ermon Lane follow Greene on the depth chart, along with sophomore receiver Jesus “Bobo” Wilson. This gathering of talented, young receivers will prove beneficial for the Seminoles in the future, but not so much this Saturday. The Canes receivers must out-perform the Noles receivers for Miami to pull the upset.

For the first time in quite some time, the Hurricanes actually have a team capable of competing with Florida State, and for the first time in a while, they might actually have advantages over them at certain positions.

It should be a good one at Sun Life Stadium and we just can’t wait.

[CaneRock]

What's the big deal about the drone? Weather permitting, can't you get the same results from somebody filming practice from a lift...

[UMike]

Safety Nantambu Fentress conceded today that UM has “made some adjustment” with alignments, with safeties lining up closer at times, including on the goal line, and “wider” some other times.

"We want to be precise in the alignments," Fentress said of the linebackers and defensive backs. "It's fine-tuning."

But aside from that, Fentress insists coordinator Mark D’Onofrio “hasn’t changed anything.” Al Golden maintained “we haven’t changed play calling.”

_____

These people really think were dumb lol... dude says they made changes and then follows it up by saying nothing has changed lol

[CaneRock]

"with safeties lining up closer at times, including on the goal line, and “wider” some other times."

#DUH!

[Ohio_Cane]

Ariz:

Demand for FSU tickets

I've had two separate high school coaches tell me this week that they called the phone line to request tickets for their players and the line was so busy that they had to wait to get through. Great sign for the demand of the this game.

[Ohio_Cane]

What's the big deal about the drone? Weather permitting, can't you get the same results from somebody filming practice from a lift...

Posted by: CaneRock | November 12, 2014 at 09:28 AM
--------------------------------------------

The lift gets one angle, from farther away. The drone gets any angle, changed by the pilot, much closer (see: above QB's head, following his eyesight)

Not even close to the same.

[Ohio_Cane]

I know, I know, I've said this before, but Michael Ferns' (Michgan) younger brother Brendan Ferns should be getting a look from our staff. Not sure if he'd be interested, but he needs seen. #2 LB in OH. From my alma mater. Seen this kid play a few times, and he's big, athletic as hell. Kid can play.

"BRENDAN FERNS CONTINUES HOT STREAK THROUGH SEASON

I apologize if I'm being redundant, but it's important to say it again: St. Clairsville 2016 linebacker Brendan Ferns is really good. On Saturday night, Ferns and his Red Devil teammates opened the post-season with a dominating 28-7 win against Coshocton, and it was Ferns who led the way. The state's top-ranked junior linebacker the country's second-ranked inside 'backer, Ferns controlled the game on both sides of the ball.

The 6-foot-3, 225 pounder tallied 17 solo tackles, assisted on six others and intercepted a pass on defense. On offense, from the tailback position, he carried the ball 15 times for 158 yards, including an 83-yard burst, scored twice and caught a 20-yard reception for good measure. All in a days work.

Ferns and St. Clairsville look to continue their undefeated season this Friday night against Bishop Hartley (Columbus). He's scheduled to be in Columbus for late-season visit when the Buckeyes host Michigan on November 29th."

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/2014/11/43512/the-hurry-up-brendan-ferns-continues-to-dominate-warinners-type-and-more

[CaneRock]

Ohio_Cane, I hear ya', but besides the overhead shots, I don't see an added benefit. But I guess I'm just old school like that, I still role with a camcorder LMAO!

[Ohio_Cane]

#2 LB overall, #1 in OH. Sorry ^^^^^

[UMike]

CR.. come on a swing by the tailgate sat man

[CaneRock]

Ohio_Cane...what are our odds with Javarius Davis, the CB outta J'ville? I see He has quite a few []_[] connects on Twitter...

[Ohio_Cane]

Manny Navarro ‏@Manny_Navarro 2m2 minutes ago

Former #Canes QBs Stephen Morris and Jacory Harris are at practice today