The only one that benefited from the "Cloud" that hung over the fate of the UM program from August 2011 to October 2013 was Florida State.
It was the same scenario as when the Seminoles benefited from Miami's fall from grace and UM had sanctions to deal with in the mid-90s.
Is it any coincidence that FSU's true dominance comes during periods of Miami sanctions and the after effects of investigations?
Year / Miami Record / FSU Record:
1990: Miami: 10-2, FSU: 10-2
1991: Miami: 12-0, FSU: 11-2
1992: Miami: 11-1, FSU: 11-1
1993: Miami: 9-3, FSU: 12-1
1994: Miami: 10-2, FSU: 10-1-1
1995: Miami: 8-3, FSU: 10-2
1996: Miami: 9-3, FSU: 11-1
1997: Miami: 5-6, FSU: 11-1
1998: Miami: 9-3, FSU: 11-2
1999: Miami: 9-4, FSU: 12-0
2000: Miami: 11-1, FSU: 11-2
2001: Miami: 12-0, FSU: 8-4
2002: Miami: 12-1, FSU: 9-5
2003: Miami: 11-2, FSU: 10-3
2004: Miami: 9-3, FSU: 9-3
2005: Miami: 9-3, FSU: 8-5
2006: Miami: 7-6, FSU: 7-6
2007: Miami: 5-7, FSU: 7-6
2008: Miami: 7-6, FSU: 9-4
2009: Miami: 9-4, FSU: 7-6
2010: Miami: 7-6, FSU: 10-4
2011: Miami: 6-6, FSU: 9-4
2012: Miami: 7-5, FSU: 12-2
2013: Miami: 9-4, FSU: 14-0
2014: Miami: 6-3, FSU: 9-0
Miami Pell Grant investigation, sanctions and rebuilding last from 1993 - 2000. FSU plays in national championship games in 93, 96, 98, 99, and 00. During that time they have a record of 88-10-1.
The Shapiro investigation began in the fall of 2010 and NCAA verdict came last fall. Minor sanctions continue. During that time, FSU goes 44-6 and plays in a national championship game.
Those smoke unis definitely look intimidating with the metallic orange helmets.
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 13, 2014 at 04:16 PM
NEW BLOG IS UP!
Posted by: SOUP | November 13, 2014 at 03:46 PM
The time is coming fellas. This is it, this is the game that puts us back to where we should be!!! Al Golden must win this game if he wants any shot of staying around long term without banners flying every game.
Breakout performer.... STACEY COLEY!!!! the time now young man.
First play i wanna see Kaaya sling that bish deep too dorsett for 6!!!!
Posted by: UpNorthCane27 | November 13, 2014 at 03:23 PM
@ESPNCFB: More important for Miami to pull off upset: Brad Kaaya or Duke Johnson?
@ESPNRobertSmith: "Brad Kaaya" #CFBLive http://t.co/RbZ5pOOBQS
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 03:03 PM
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Both!
#Kaaya-Ocho!
Posted by: 30CINCO | November 13, 2014 at 03:05 PM
allCanesBlog.com @allCanesBlog
SMOKE w/orange helmet combo for #MiamiHurricanes v. #FloridaState. PLAYERS CHOICE. Support it!—http://on.fb.me/1EzWkq0
Posted by: 30CINCO | November 13, 2014 at 03:04 PM
@ESPNCFB: Preview of this Saturday's #FSUvsMIA matchup
#CFBLive http://t.co/pEDuIPtqCB
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 03:04 PM
@ESPNCFB: More important for Miami to pull off upset: Brad Kaaya or Duke Johnson?
@ESPNRobertSmith: "Brad Kaaya" #CFBLive http://t.co/RbZ5pOOBQS
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 03:03 PM
Scott Patchan, Welcome to the U!
Signed his NLOI today.
(Early signing period for EE's)
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 13, 2014 at 03:02 PM
That's my favorite combo....They are going to look sick!!!!
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | November 13, 2014 at 02:44 PM
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Seems like they've been saving this combo
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 13, 2014 at 02:59 PM
I believe we'll be wearing smoke jersey/pants and orange helmets for FSU
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 13, 2014 at 12:11 PM
That's my favorite combo....They are going to look sick!!!!
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | November 13, 2014 at 02:44 PM
When we beat Jax State U ALL are gonna be going crazy!!!
Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2014 at 10:59 PM
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I've been saying this for weeks now!!! Finally someone sees where I'm coming from!!!....LOL
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | November 13, 2014 at 02:32 PM
On and off field, UM’s Deon Bush helps dad cope with illness
By Manny Navarro, www.miamiherald.com
Gary Bush is getting the chance to see his son, Deon, finally have the type of season he always knew was in him.
Deon is healthy, making plays all over the field for an improved Miami Hurricanes defense, and resembling a grown-up version of the hard-hitting freshman All-American safety that was once a gem in Al Golden’s first full-fledged recruiting class.
Gary has savored every minute of it, every tackle, every big play, and he says he’s going to continue to do that until God tells him it’s time to go.
“Every time I think about The U getting ready to play against Florida State, it lifts my spirits up,” said Bush Sr., a 52-year-old former science teacher at Miami Southridge who is fighting liver cancer for the second time since he was first diagnosed in April 2013.
“I live for football. I don’t know what I’m going to do after football. There’s nothing else I look forward to in life.”
Bush Sr., a former receiver who played alongside Hall of Famer Jerry Rice at Mississippi Valley State, actually has a lot he looks forward to. He has been active in his community for years, coaching and serving as a mentor to many kids. But this second bout with cancer (it returned in March, eight months after he had surgery to remove part of his liver and gallbladder) has understandably hit him hard.
He says he’s in a shell and hasn’t told many friends that the cancer has returned “because I didn’t want to put my problems on other people.”
An ultra-fit husband and father of three athletes (eldest son GaryJr. played receiver at Purdue, and 14-year-old daughter Nya starts as a freshman for Miami Southridge’s girls’ basketball team), Bush used to get up nearly every day at 4:30a.m., run five miles at the gym and lift weights before he got sick.
Now, his son, UM’s second-leading tackler (45 tackles) who ranks fifth nationally with four forced fumbles, pushes Gary to get out of bed on Sunday mornings to go with him to church. Deon, 21, moved back home in August so he could see his father every day and push him to not give up hope.
“I just try to get him up so he can stay up, stay positive about everything,” Deon said. “I just try to live every day with him like it’s the last, make the best out of every situation.”
Deon, his father said, serves as the man of the house. He does the chores Gary used to do while caring for his sister and 15-year-old cousin, Jayvon Colbert, the seventh child Gary said the Bushes have taken in over the years.
“I know it’s a hardship on us now, but it’s something my wife [Michele] and I have always done, and we believe God put on us to try and help kids’ lives,” Gary said.
Each day, Gary said, Deon wakes up at 5a.m. and drives from their home in Cutler Bay back to Coral Gables so he can go to school and play football. When he’s done with school and football, Deon returns home and does whatever is needed around the house, such as driving his sister or cousin to practice or picking up the yard.
“There’s not one game that I go out there and I don’t think about my dad or my mom,” Deon said. “She goes through a lot of stuff, as well. Before I go out on that field, I think I’ve got to have a big game to impress them. But then I don’t try to do too much because I just try to play hard, do my job, try to make plays. It fuels emotion after I make a play because I’m doing it for my team and my family.”
Defensive coordinator Mark D’Onofrio credited Bush’s improved play at safety — a very complex and important position in UM’s scheme — as a big reason the Canes defense is better.
“I think you’re seeing Deon show up,” D’Onofrio said. “He’s developed into a really good tackler. That’s really changed over time. When he was younger he would go in there more reckless. His head might be down and he’d hurt his shoulder, his neck. He’s not having injuries because he’s bigger and stronger and trusting his technique. I’m very proud of Deon and what he’s done so far this year.”
Bush recorded his first career interception last year when he picked off Heisman winner Jameis Winston in Tallahassee. He has recorded turnovers in each of his last two games — a fumble recovery and an interception. He credits his success this season to his teammates. He said they’ve been doing their jobs, so he has simply been doing his.
A sports management major, Deon is on pace to graduate in December 2015, his father said. Leaving early for the NFL after just three years at UM isn’t something the junior has thought about, Gary said. He’s focused on his grades and other things.
Right now, Gary said, his cancer is “stable,” but he’s also praying he gets better news soon. He would love be around to see Deon achieve all of his dreams. Beating No.2-ranked FSU (9-0) Saturday is certainly one of them.
“I wouldn’t miss this for nothing,” Gary said. “I just asked the lord to help me through this week right here so I can watch this game. I’ll be right up there where I always am with all the parents cheering hard.”
Posted by: 30CINCO | November 13, 2014 at 02:05 PM
Game of the Week: Florida State at Miami
In what would likely appear to be a major upset in the minds of most college football fans, yet would be just a mild upset in sportsbooks, Miami should win outright over Florida State in Week 12 of the 2014 college football season. The Hurricanes have flown under the radar for most of the season in the relatively unheralded ACC. All three of their losses have come on the road to teams that have combined for just six losses on the season. Furthermore, a deeper dig into the Hurricanes' numbers uncovers a team that is experienced and can be dominant in many ways and yet has improved significantly recently in the ways in which they are young and previously struggled. Regardless of whether this is viewed as a rivalry game or not and no matter where this game is played, Miami presents a difficult matchup for Florida State.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-bessire/game-of-the-week-florida-_1_b_6148950.html
Posted by: 30CINCO | November 13, 2014 at 02:00 PM
HS Football in florida seems to be fubar.
A football coach who forfeits a game because he doesn't like the calls, probably should not be a coach period.
Posted by: trianglecane | November 13, 2014 at 01:32 PM
Matt Strout was coaching under a false name. His real name could be Matthew Rodgers.
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM
I blog under SOUP, but my real name is 86Cane.
Can I get in trouble for that? I don't want to have to forfeit any of my comments or articles?
Posted by: SOUP | November 13, 2014 at 01:29 PM
FHSAA is a joke. They're enablers. They do nothing unless it hits them in the face. Meantime street agents, some of them coaches, run wild down here. But of the most corrupting influences, it's the SEC money, and their bagmen/agents that have made this a cesspool.
Posted by: Lurker | November 13, 2014 at 01:07 PM
Ryan Bartow is talking about this like it's a new phenomenon. Kids have been freely transferring from school to school ever since I can remember. No holds barred on the west side of I-95!
Posted by: CaneRock | November 13, 2014 at 12:55 PM
"big money college programs"...
Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | November 13, 2014 at 12:48 PM
I would estimate that big time college programs have cost UM a title game or two since 2001. When you look back at kids like Patrick Peterson who were "canes to the bone" until they and their families were enticed with money and jobs to go elsewhere, I think my estimate of two title games may even be low.
Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | November 13, 2014 at 12:47 PM
@RyanBartow: From mass de-commits, to the most HS transfers, insane speed/charisma, handlers, 3rd parties, U name it. Never a dull moment in 305/954
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 12:38 PM
The "big money" schools are ruining college football and now they appear to be ruining South Florida H.S. football.
The state legislators should make it it a felony to rep a kid whether they are registered agents or not.
Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | November 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM
Manny Navarro @Manny_Navarro 2m2 minutes ago Pembroke Pines, FL
Nice job by @ScottSalomon feeding @AndreMHsports on the #Miramar story. Just read it. Will post shortly.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM
Game day!!
Go Dolphins!!
Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | November 13, 2014 at 12:33 PM
LMAO! This is what I figured:
Premier Athletes
3 hrs · Twitter ·
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They want that the other local High Schools to "Snitch" on Miramar, but they can't, B/C they're Doing the same things
Posted by: CaneRock | November 13, 2014 at 12:31 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-school/prep-broward/article3865216.html
So the Miramar coach gets fired for lying and then drops a dime on the school for allowing ineligible kids to play!!
What a train wreck!
Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | November 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM
^^^^^^^^^
Yes. That's what I'm hearing
Posted by: Lurker | November 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM
I believe we'll be wearing smoke jersey/pants and orange helmets for FSU
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 13, 2014 at 12:11 PM
Look at the helmet Denzel is wearing!
@CanesFootball: Miami linebacker Denzel Perryman chats with ESPN's Chris Fowler following practice. http://t.co/jbTOjrlTbf
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 11:35 AM
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This the first time you're seeing it?
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 13, 2014 at 12:10 PM
What kind of circus show is that over at Champagnat. That is straight up embarrassing
Posted by: UpNorthCane | November 13, 2014 at 11:30 AM
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Oh, U know, just doing whatever it takes to win football games, not caring for one second about the kids.
The "leader of men" (see: street agent) that coaches there (Jon Drummond aka Genron) is one of the worst people. Pushes kids to $EC schools for kickbacks. (Valentine)
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 13, 2014 at 12:09 PM
TV:
http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27812&SPID=2164&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=209392528&Q_SEASON=2014
Posted by: tjl3909 | November 13, 2014 at 11:55 AM
Wtf was going on at Miramar??
@ScottSalomon: It appears, per my conversation with Coach Scott, that Matt Strout was coaching under a false name. His real name could be Matthew Rodgers.
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 11:36 AM
Look at the helmet Denzel is wearing!
@CanesFootball: Miami linebacker Denzel Perryman chats with ESPN's Chris Fowler following practice. http://t.co/jbTOjrlTbf
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 11:35 AM
@espn: Today’s @DrPepper #Vintage Vine: Jeremy Shockey catches a TD in The U’s National Championship win over Nebraska: https://t.co/Spotw8QayY
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM
What kind of circus show is that over at Champagnat. That is straight up embarrassing
Posted by: UpNorthCane27 | November 13, 2014 at 11:30 AM
1) The oddest forfeit of the season didn’t even last a half — It may be awhile before we fully learn what inspired Champagnat Catholic, of Hilaeah, Fla., to forfeit against IMG Academy while still in the second quarter. Yes, IMG had already built up a virtually insurmountable 48-8 lead. But did Champagnat throw the white flag because it didn’t want to play the role of whipping boy, or was it because of concern about injury or numbers? One report claimed that Champagnat walked off the field to protest a second quarter call that the coaching staff disagreed with, but that is from one account. Only time will tell if that tells the full story.
http://usatodayhss.com/2014/five-things-we-learned-a-unique-forfeit-and-another-perfect-friday-in-week-12
SFHSSports @SFHSSports · 4m4 minutes ago
Report: Champagnat has been removed from the Class 2A playoffs. For breaking a state rule against forfeiting/leaving a game at halftime
Posted by: CaneRock | November 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM
I like the sound of that final score:
@D_VanDyke8: They folded, we didn't.. the U > FSU http://t.co/Z4B4LlQsq8
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 11:22 AM
Now Champangat:
@NashSports: Champagnat Catholic out of the state playoffs and now potentially Miramar. Another day in south Florida.
Anyone know if Valentine ever got into LSU?
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM
And I saw that MNW's HC got suspended also, I wonder what's the deal over there...
Posted by: CaneRock | November 13, 2014 at 10:16 AM
I think suspending the 2015 season is harsh, but I'm also for getting priorities straight. Football's not that important, to be letting a kid play with a 1.87 GPA!...SMMFH!
Posted by: CaneRock | November 13, 2014 at 10:14 AM
@ChristyChirinos: In today's @SunSentinel: for Miami and FSU, a recruiting edge and bragging rights always at stake in rivalry game: http://t.co/zkgYlSLVvs
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 10:01 AM
I love our Kayaa, he is the future.
Jameis is a criminal. But on the football field, he is a beast, and the best QB in college football.
If anyone had to pick teams, he would get picked 100 times out of 100 ahead of Brad.
Posted by: Lurker | November 13, 2014 at 09:22 AM
Brad has a ways to go before he hits his ceiling, and I'd bet Jameis is close to his.
Seriously, I think Kaaya has a shot at being UM's best QB ever. He's putting up very respectable numbers without spending a single offseason working in Coley's offense. Or in UM's weight room.
If he doesn't have a sophomore slump, he is absolutely going to tear **** up for the next couple of years.
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 13, 2014 at 10:00 AM
Miramas's recent rise and Carol City's fall go hand and hand. I'm sure plenty end up at Carol City, and I wouldldnt be surprised o see STA come in a snag a couple
Posted by: UMike | November 13, 2014 at 09:55 AM
I could see a lot of these kids transferring to Flannigan. Bush has built up quite a program there, and they are relatively close to each other.
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 09:54 AM
At first I thought you meant Ohio, you said "here". Then I realized you couldn't possibly mean that.
What a mess, though.
Posted by: Lurker | November 13, 2014 at 09:40 AM
Transferring where?
Posted by: Lurker | November 13, 2014 at 09:23 AM
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I don't know all of the logistics down there, but I read most likely Carol City or one of the private schools in Broward.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 13, 2014 at 09:28 AM
Transferring where?
Posted by: Lurker | November 13, 2014 at 09:23 AM
I love our Kayaa, he is the future.
Jameis is a criminal. But on the football field, he is a beast, and the best QB in college football.
If anyone had to pick teams, he would get picked 100 times out of 100 ahead of Brad.
He can win games virtually by himself.
Posted by: Lurker | November 13, 2014 at 09:22 AM
All of Miramar's wins vacated, out of the playoffs and now this:
@sgorten: Laboris Alvis and Jeff Hill say Miramar players told by Broward schools that entire 2015 football season will be suspended as well
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 09:08 AM
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WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!
That's going to kill that program. All those players will be transferring here soon.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 13, 2014 at 09:19 AM
All of Miramar's wins vacated, out of the playoffs and now this:
@sgorten: Laboris Alvis and Jeff Hill say Miramar players told by Broward schools that entire 2015 football season will be suspended as well
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 09:08 AM
@mattyports: [ICYMI] Brad Kaaya stacks up well vs. Jameis Winston headed into Saturday's prime-time game: http://t.co/1EULJWv9w9 http://t.co/WHPlrhwwZg
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 08:16 AM
And that's WITHOUT taking into account their off-field (crime) stats.
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 13, 2014 at 08:50 AM
@mattyports: [ICYMI] Brad Kaaya stacks up well vs. Jameis Winston headed into Saturday's prime-time game: http://t.co/1EULJWv9w9 http://t.co/WHPlrhwwZg
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 08:16 AM
When we beat Jax State U ALL are gonna be going crazy!!!
Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2014 at 10:59 PM
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I can't wait to go crazy. Already have my Jax State Sucks foam finger out. :-)
Posted by: raizecane | November 13, 2014 at 07:08 AM
As sit here this morning, pondering the great philosophical questions in life, there is one quote that truly summarizes how a true Hurricane thinks about his opponent as he approaches this game.
Khitan General: "Conan [the Barbarian], what is best in life?
Conan: "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!"
Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | November 13, 2014 at 06:59 AM
@Manny_Navarro: My story: Starring on the field and back home #UM safety Deon Bush helping dad cope with cancer again http://t.co/APRGtsERMh
Posted by: Go Canes | November 13, 2014 at 06:57 AM
TALLAHASSEE – The Tallahassee Police Department says Florida State running back Karlos Williams is not being charged after a domestic battery investigation.
The police released the incident report Wednesday detailing the investigation, which ended because “without a statement or additional evidence there is no way to further this case.” The case remains “Open/Inactive.”
So the Tallahassee police conduction yet another investigation and didn't press charges. Of course not, that's their job.
Instead of ring toss at the tailgates, they should have FSU specific games crab leg stealing, video erasing, bb shooting, girlfriend beating in which one uses an inflatable doll perhaps an impact plate, sledgehammer and bell or perhaps sex chanting in which one stands on a table and yells "F*** Her Right in the P****" at the FSU female supporters.That would make them feel right at home.
Posted by: Old Skool | November 13, 2014 at 06:03 AM
^^^ no way we punt.
Posted by: The Dude | November 13, 2014 at 01:52 AM
Canes - 144
FSWho - 2
Botches special teams play gives them a safety. Thanks, Al.....
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | November 12, 2014 at 11:55 PM
Not sure you can take them but "comforting" them after a loss is permissable.
Posted by: SJMPARMAN | November 12, 2014 at 11:48 PM
FSU IS BEATABLE!
Posted by: TonyCane | November 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM
And their women are fine.
Can we take them too?
Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2014 at 11:44 PM
Canes 35, FSU 34
That is all.
Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2014 at 11:43 PM
Fsu SUCKS!!!!
People are giving em too much credit. They are pretty much a 1 man show, take away Squintston and you have the Clemson game!
Posted by: WWIN | November 12, 2014 at 11:40 PM
We are not good at Kick of Returns. But we have only allowed the one td, and the return average is only 23.46. FSU is much better at 18.24. Advantage to them. I didn't say all stats favored them and you are right to point to special teams deciding the game.
How many wide rights, wide lefts and other big special teams plays have won these games. I mean, Jimmy Johnson encouraged his starters to play special teams in big games. I always though that was a good plan.
Posted by: SJMPARMAN | November 12, 2014 at 11:39 PM
For us to win on Sarurday, every starter will have to play the absolute best game of their careers, and the coaches will have to be almost 100% on their play selection and strategy. Also, our special teams, kickoffs included, will have to be significantly better than they've been all year.
Do that, keep it close, and we have a shot. Remember, FSU has the deeper and more talented team, have won a bunch in crunch time, are the defending champs, and will come out with a huge chip on their shoulders. They have something to prove this week, as if playing a rival isn't enough motivation.
Posted by: Lurker | November 12, 2014 at 11:38 PM
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 12, 2014 at 07:40 PM
#TrueStory
Posted by: WWIN | November 12, 2014 at 11:35 PM
Wish I could be there. Miami has never lost a game that I attended.
Posted by: TonyCane | November 12, 2014 at 11:30 PM
CBS truck reportedly found in Nashville?
WWIN? The 12%bus was just fine, why U do that?
Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2014 at 08:50 PM
Hey don't look at me I'm in Missouri! I'll ask my homies tho
Posted by: WWIN | November 12, 2014 at 11:29 PM
SJMP, I like Butch and I appreciate what he did to bring in the talent to win our last ship.
But the perception, based in part on his own missteps, is that he's tainted. He will never be our coach. He wouldn't even be a candidate for this or any other major jobs, and that was even before all the latest stuff came out.
If for some reason Golden leaves, Butch will not be on our short list, or anybody else's that matters. That's not hate, that's just how I'm sure it is.
Posted by: Lurker | November 12, 2014 at 11:29 PM
LMAO! Heard this earlier today, but an ESPN talkin' head, basically said that if UM beats FSU, that it would make the ACC irrelevant. Those SEC slurpers will say anything to prop up the $EC...SMFH!
Posted by: CaneRock | November 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM
Hate to say it, but that's true. FSU is the only relevant team in the conference. If we beat them, who else is there? Duke? clempson?Nothing we can do will put us in the national conversation this year. If we win, and build on the victory maybe next year will be different... the ACC is weak.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | November 12, 2014 at 11:28 PM
Why I can't have both???? Lol
Posted by: WWIM | November 12, 2014 at 07:27 PM
Dats my boi!
Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2014 at 08:49 PM
I learned from the best, the Soupster! Lol
Posted by: WWIN | November 12, 2014 at 11:28 PM
One thing I do know going into this game, FSU's gonna win the kicking game. Maybe we can break one on a punt, but I don't see us getting many opportunities on KOR.
Posted by: CaneRock | November 12, 2014 at 11:25 PM
Got em both now! Done!
Posted by: WWIN | November 12, 2014 at 11:24 PM
I respect Butch Davis in the same way I respect Howard, Jimmy, Dennis for building championship teams at UM but I am a Golden fan this week. I don't think no matter how many times he repeats his position that Lurker will ever convince Butch Davis is some evil guy. He's just not that to me.
I have a sneaky suspicion we win the game. Big games are won when your best player helps you win the game. Duke will get his yards. Duke is number 7 in rushing yards with 1213 yards. Karlos Williams is 110 with 520 yards. Yearby is 157th with 421 yards. Dalvin Cook is 161st with 416 yards. Miami averages 199.3 yards per game rushing. FSU averages 129.9 yards per game rushing. We have a huge advantage in the running game.
In pass efficiency, Kaaya is 11th with 2087 yards, with 20 tds and 9 ints and a 157.6 QBR. Winston is 21st with 2540 yards, with 17 tds and 11 ints, and a 150.8 QBR. I don't see this matchup as much more than a draw. Both guys will make their plays and a mistake here or there.
So if Miami can run, can FSU defend it? Rushing defense stats. Miami - 31st, allowing 131.9 yards a game on the ground. FSU - 35th allowing 135.7 yards per game. In the games I have watched FSU this year, it seems they are more vulnerable to the run compared to the last few years.
So if Miami and FSU can pass, who can defend better? Miami is 18th in pass efficiency defense, allowing 9 touchdowns with 8 ints and a 107 rating. FSU is 65th in pass efficiency defense, allowing 15 tds to 9 ints and a 126.8 rating. Miami is 11th in total defense and FSU is 49th.
Stats are just stats and all but some of them seem to favor us. I like our chances.
Posted by: SJMPARMAN | November 12, 2014 at 11:15 PM
It wasn't "substantiated"
Posted by: CaneRock | November 12, 2014 at 10:38 PM
So we're in 100% agreement. It wasn't substantiated. There was zero proof. Zero.
Glad you support the canes then, instead of throwing them under the bus over totally unproven allegations. Because only our competitors do that.
We're good.
Posted by: Lurker | November 12, 2014 at 11:12 PM
LMAO! Heard this earlier today, but an ESPN talkin' head, basically said that if UM beats FSU, that it would make the ACC irrelevant. Those SEC slurpers will say anything to prop up the $EC...SMFH!
Posted by: CaneRock | November 12, 2014 at 11:06 PM
in these last 2 games, UVA has a TOUGH@$$! defense.
Posted by: CaneRock | November 12, 2014 at 11:01 PM
Correction: "in these *NEXT* 2 games.
Posted by: CaneRock | November 12, 2014 at 11:02 PM
Lookin' ahead a lil' bit, we're gonna have our work cut out for us in these last 2 games, UVA has a TOUGH@$$! defense.
Posted by: CaneRock | November 12, 2014 at 11:01 PM
When we beat Jax State U ALL are gonna be going crazy!!!
Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2014 at 10:59 PM
FEEL THE LOVE.
Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2014 at 10:58 PM
Tony will you be at the game Saturday?
Posted by: Go Canes | November 12, 2014 at 10:57 PM
Obviously meant to write 9-0 for this year, but you get my point!
Posted by: TonyCane | November 12, 2014 at 10:53 PM
FSU after nine games, PF, PA.
And note the difference year over year:
2010: 6-3, 303-178
2011: 6-3, 323-142
2012: 8-1, 403-108
2013: 8-1, 403-168
2014: 6-3, 341-198
198 - Highest point total that FSU has given up in five years. And one point MORE than Miami gave up this year.
FSU IS BEATABLE!
Posted by: TonyCane | November 12, 2014 at 10:52 PM
Good points dj.
Posted by: Go Canes | November 12, 2014 at 10:50 PM
I'd prefer talking about something like our biggest game of the year this coming saturday night.
Posted by: Go Canes | November 12, 2014 at 10:42 PM
Me, too! Allow me to start the conversation:
They're not as good as they were last year, but they're still pretty good. We can beat them if we play really well, and we can't if we don't. Everybody knows these things are true.
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM
^^^ so talk about it, no one is stopping you, but that's not why you post here is it?
Posted by: The Dude | November 12, 2014 at 10:45 PM
When have I ever slammed a Butch supporter?
By reiterating the most obvious thing ever?
I could care less about who supports Butch and feels the need to expend any time and energy on a pipe dream that had less than 1% chance of ever happening BEFORE everything that's come out recently.
Spend all day on it, enjoy.
I'd prefer talking about something like our biggest game of the year this coming saturday night.
Posted by: Go Canes | November 12, 2014 at 10:42 PM
Or did anyone here actually read the NCAA report?
Posted by: Lurker | November 12, 2014 at 10:07 PM
LMAO!
It wasn't "substantiated", because the NCAA doesn NOT have subpoena power. IOWs, they're not a law enforcement agency...IOWs, you don't have to SAY $H!T!
And for the record, I wasn't "backing up" Butch, but what did I expect, Goldenites just love makin' up shit!...TYPICAL!
Posted by: CaneRock | November 12, 2014 at 10:38 PM
And if you're going to be an illiterate, you need to read more slowly and carefully.
Posted by: Lurker | November 12, 2014 at 10:25 PM
If I'm going to be an illiterate, wouldn't that mean I couldn't read?
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 12, 2014 at 10:27 PM
This isn't a week to worry about Butch. This is FSU week, and it's Golden's chance to sink or swim. Can't be a UM fan if you're hoping he sinks just to be right. I haven't always been thrilled, but I hope he'll turn out to be the best coach in UM history over the next decade. Win, win, if so....
A win not only makes this season a good one with a strong ending potentially for the first time in years, but also begins to show Golden can win a big one and influences recruits to potentially help the next few years. HUGE game, and what went on at UNC doesn't matter to me right now.
Posted by: jcane | November 12, 2014 at 10:27 PM
^^^ where does the venom come from on this blog?
Posted by: The Dude | November 12, 2014 at 10:26 PM
If you're going to be a dick, read more carefully.
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 12, 2014 at 10:10 PM
And if you're going to be an illiterate, you need to read more slowly and carefully. The comment Butch made was NOT an allegation. He admitted it. If you go back and read my posts, you'll see.
It's pretty pathetic when an alleged canes fan, uses unproven allegations to back up a guy who hasn't set foot on campus in 15 years.
Get over it. Butch is NEVER going to coach at Miami.
Posted by: Lurker | November 12, 2014 at 10:25 PM
Butch talk still going on at this hour?
During FSU week?
Posted by: Go Canes | November 12, 2014 at 10:20 PM
Why not? There's nothing new to say about the FSU game. They're not as good as they were last year, but they're still pretty good. We can beat them if we play really well, and we can't if we don't. Everybody knows these things are true.
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 12, 2014 at 10:23 PM
^^^ says the guy all too happy to slam Butch supporters thus week.
#bootlickers
Posted by: The Dude | November 12, 2014 at 10:22 PM
Butch talk still going on at this hour?
During FSU week?
Ugh.
Go Canes!!
Posted by: Go Canes | November 12, 2014 at 10:20 PM
BTW, I think both UNC's and UM's recent scandals pale in comparison to MIami's '90s Pell Grant scandal. There, UM not only had NCAA violations, but an employee defrauding the taxpayers.
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 12, 2014 at 10:19 PM
As a canes fan, you buy into this? These were allegations that were NEVER substantiated, or don't you keep up? I can't believe the ignorance of some of our own fans.
Posted by: Lurker | November 12, 2014 at 10:07 PM
Lurker, they were nonetheless allegations, and CaneRock was asking whether UNC's recent TRUE allegations stacked up against those FALSE ones.
If you're going to be a dick, read more carefully.
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 12, 2014 at 10:10 PM
^^^ Good to see bootlickers are still instigating personal attacks.
Posted by: The Dude | November 12, 2014 at 10:09 PM
Worse than providing kids hookers?
Posted by: CaneRock | November 12, 2014 at 08:00 PM
As a canes fan, you buy into this? These were allegations that were NEVER substantiated, or don't you keep up? I can't believe the ignorance of some of our own fans. The only thing that was documented to be true were things like meals, used washer and dryer, all basically penny ante stuff. All the hooker, abortion, etc, stuff never even came close to being shown to be true.
Or did anyone here actually read the NCAA report?
Posted by: Lurker | November 12, 2014 at 10:07 PM
Moonbat to the rescue!!!
Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2014 at 08:51 PM
CBS truck reportedly found in Nashville?
WWIN? The 12%bus was just fine, why U do that?
Posted by: 86Cane | November 12, 2014 at 08:50 PM
Now if you provided classes taught by hookers, then you'd really have something to offer the modern college athlete.
Posted by: dj moonbat | November 12, 2014 at 08:49 PM