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December 16, 2014

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Ohio_Cane

We'll wait and see with CT9 next year when he's an every down player.

Ohio_Cane

Bruce Feldman ‏@BruceFeldmanCFB 13s14 seconds ago

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Canezitis

2+ years of rumors of death penalty. I'd consider that real sanctions. That's a hard sell for anyone, especially a university with little to no bag men.

CaneRock

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 17, 2014 at 04:46 PM

#ThanksShawn

86Cane

We don't have a LB from Jersey

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 17, 2014 at 03:18 PM

Maybe we have a Jersey for a LB?

86Cane

I've been one of the bigger supporters of Golden, and I can agree with this.

If it were my call, however, he'd be gone now.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 17, 2014 at 04:13 PM

WOW! Strong words.

dj moonbat

2+ years of rumors of death penalty. I'd consider that real sanctions. That's a hard sell for anyone, especially a university with little to no bag men.

Posted by: Canezitis | December 17, 2014 at 04:47 PM


The word "rumor" should be your tipoff that you aren't talking about real sanctions.

gnav

The U documentary further showed what a soft weakling Larry Coker was. You go into Penn State who takes a jab at your team by parading their 86 champions who happen to beat your team for the title. You take a 30-0 lead against them at halftime and the second half to run out the clock. Jimmy, Howard, Erickson and Butch put 30 more points in the second half against those punks. Coker was just like Golden, nothing but a soft cowardly coach trying to make friends w everyone.

Go Canes

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 17, 2014 at 05:22 PM

Emmert saying the death penalty wasn't off the table was so overrated! Good thing it only took nearly three years.

#thanksmark

dj moonbat

Emmert saying the death penalty wasn't off the table was so overrated! Good thing it only took nearly three years.

#thanksmark

Posted by: Go Canes | December 17, 2014 at 05:31 PM


Didn't say there were no real consequences. Just no real sanctions.

Go Canes

Posted by: gnav | December 17, 2014 at 05:24 PM

I don't think Jimmy and Butch ever beat penn state. Don't remember if Erickson ever played them. Know Howard won one against them with Jim Kelly.

WWIN

2+ years of rumors of death penalty. I'd consider that real sanctions. That's a hard sell for anyone, especially a university with little to no bag men.

Posted by: Canezitis | December 17, 2014 at 04:47 PM

Not when you out recruit everybody on your schedule with football players! Butch had to use track scholly's! How did it hurt us when our recruiting classes were much better than the teams we faced were?

CaneRock

As soon as PSU got their sanctions, the threat of the DP was off the table for UM!

1mg of Epi

IMO, every HC coach deserves 5 years , especially coming off of an NCAA investigation.

Year 5, no ACC title game, no more Golden.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 17, 2014 at 04:10 PM

I respect that. I agreed with this as well, until this season when it became obvious that the defensive schemes and philosophy we saw the previous years wasn't a stop-gap but was the finished product. The inability to adapt his schemes to fit the players on the field changed my mind.

Do you see anything on the field that makes you believe next year will be any different?

WWIN

As soon as the PSU news broke, the threat of the DP was off the table for UM!

Posted by: CaneRock | December 17, 2014 at 06:10 PM

There, fixed it for ya!

1mg of Epi

2+ years of rumors of death penalty. I'd consider that real sanctions. That's a hard sell for anyone, especially a university with little to no bag men.

Posted by: Canezitis | December 17, 2014 at 04:47 PM

The cloud and the facility situation are more smokescreen than anything... They're simply used to distract us from the fact that AG is incompetent.

VfB_Cane

The cloud and the facility situation are more smokescreen than anything... They're simply used to distract us from the fact that AG is incompetent.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 17, 2014 at 06:20 PM

The crazy thing is, Al Golden has done a pretty decent job recruiting talented players, where the cloud & facility situation hurt the most. His failures have come in other areas unaffected by outside distractions.

Go Canes

#thanksoverratedcloud

You really didn't affect anything.

jsy

For ppl who say golden must win acc coastal next year. Let's say he goes 7-5 but wins the coastal is that good enough or would 10 wins but no coastal be good enough or fire him regardless

1mg of Epi

#thanksoverratedcloud
You really didn't affect anything.
Posted by: Go Canes | December 17, 2014 at 06:47 PM

The cloud has long since dissipated and he's got the #17 ranked class this year so far, and with his annual signing day let downs I'm sure that will drop. Last year under the cloud I believe he had the 12 rated class.

Show me how I'm wrong, with something other than assumptions and hash tags.

#youcant

Go Canes

Long since dissipated?

Come on man.

Go Canes

@philsteele042: Its official. Paul Chryst named Wisconsin head coach. He would have been the pick 2 years ago but had only been at Pitt 1 year.

1mg of Epi

Long since dissipated?
Come on man.
Posted by: Go Canes | December 17, 2014 at 07:08 PM

People ask what was Golden's signature win. His signature win was walking into a job at a school about to be thrust into the headlines for what as at the time the most salacious scandal in college football history.

Over the first three years we saw historically bad play on the field and attributed it to the cloud. We saw local talent escaping to places like Louisville and attributed it to the cloud. The cloud gave us, the fans, a reason to hang onto hope because it meant we could assign blame somewhere other than the coaching staff.... Which meant we may someday win again, once the cloud clears.

Year four saw a mature team, loaded with talent, getting manhandled by bowl ineligible teams. Year four sees a recruiting class that, if we're being honest, is no better than what we saw during the cloud, likely worse.

The bottom line is that Golden is not what we hoped he was. He isn't the recruiting monster we needed, and he isn't the tactical wizard we wanted. Now that the cloud is gone, and the curtain pulled back, what's revealed is a stubborn man whose best asset is his ability to deliver a fiery speech.

You can talk about the effect an NCAA investigation may have on recruiting in a general sense, and seemingly it could be devastating. The reality looks much different. USC and Ohio State, two schools with lengthy investigations, two schools with consistent top 10 classes. USC has been impacted as far as depth goes, but not level of talent.

In the end the cloud was nothing more than a distraction... A built-in excuse to explain away subpar performance. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise. Unfortunately all the evidence we have simply points to the fact that Golden hit his ceiling sooner than any of us anticipated, and yet he was granted a contract extension till what feels like the end of time. So yes, the cloud was both overrated, and Golden's biggest win.

Canezitis

Same affect DJ, that's real.

Ohio_Cane

The word "rumor" should be your tipoff that you aren't talking about real sanctions.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 17, 2014 at 05:22 PM
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To 16-18 year old kids? Might as well have been posted as true on Wikipedia, cuz most kids take rumors as fact.

The Dude

We talking about clouds man. Not the games, not the games where Miami lost to two ACC bottom feeders. We talking about clouds.

Go Canes

@RapSheet: Sources: #Michigan has made another run at Jim Harbaugh after he initially rebuffed the school. U-M has made an offer of 6 years, $48M. Wow.

Go Canes

@CanesWarningFS: Definitely can, depends on how his visit to Miami in Jan. goes. RT“@Lilshad83Shad83: @CanesWarningFS do you think we can land Marcus lewis”

CaneRock


There is no evidence to suggest otherwise. Unfortunately all the evidence we have simply points to the fact that Golden hit his ceiling sooner than any of us anticipated, and yet he was granted a contract extension till what feels like the end of time. So yes, the cloud was both overrated, and Golden's biggest win.


Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 17, 2014 at 07:53 PM

#thanksshawn

CaneRock


As soon as the PSU news broke, the threat of the DP was off the table for UM!

Posted by: CaneRock | December 17, 2014 at 06:10 PM

There, fixed it for ya!

Posted by: WWIM | December 17, 2014 at 06:14 PM

YUP!

1mg of Epi

#thanksshawn

Posted by: CaneRock | December 17, 2014 at 08:29 PM

Pelini sure did

jsy

That was a great post by epinephrine couldn't have said better myself.

1mg of Epi

Thank you JSY!

dj moonbat

To 16-18 year old kids? Might as well have been posted as true on Wikipedia, cuz most kids take rumors as fact.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 17, 2014 at 08:10 PM


Look, it's simple: the 'death penalty,' scholarship reductions, bowl bans -- these are NCAA sanctions.

Rumors that these things are forthcoming may, in fact, be incredibly damaging. I will not take ANY POSITION on how damaging they were in this comment. Nonetheless, such rumors are not themselves actual NCAA sanctions.

Butch had significant, real, official NCAA sanctions for several years. Al had rumors of forthcoming sanctions for several years, plus self-imposed restrictions in anticipation of same. We can debate how much they mattered, if you guys really want (but why?). But we shouldn't be arguing semantics over that issue: Bush's sanctions? Real. Golden's? Anticipated.

CaneRock

#thanksal:


Harris holds a grudge

Dec 16, 6:47 PM


South Carolina doesn't often pluck a player from the Miami area but defensive backs coach Grady Brown went in and took eventual Freshman All-SEC performer Al Harris Jr. from right under the nose of the Hurricanes. Harris, a Fort Lauderdale, Fla. native, was a three-star recruit with more than a handful of big-time offers.

Miami, however, was not one of those schools to come forward. With a game against the Hurricanes in the Duck Commander Independence Bowl looming, Harris hasn't forgotten the snub.

“They recruited me but they didn’t offer me,” Harris said. “I have a little grudge from that.”

Harris, who has started four games this season for the Gamecocks, was named a Freshman All-SEC performer at defensive back by the league's coaches. He is the son of Al Harris Sr., a two-time pro bowl cornerback who played 14 seasons in the NFL for Philadelphia, Green Bay, Miami and St. Louis and is currently a coach for the Kansas City Chiefs.

WWIN

Go Canes loves Golden but at the same time he's ashamed to admit he loves him and wants him here! SMH

#whatAreYouAshamedOf

WWIN

I remember when Under Armour offered Kevin Durant big boy money to sign a shoe deal with them but Nike has a opportunity to match it first. So what did Nike do you say? They matched it!

#thanksgolden

1mg of Epi

Posted by: WWIM | December 17, 2014 at 09:23 PM

We don't want Nike. They want night games, and all the eyeballs that go along with em. Being branded w Nike isn't worth it if our guys have to be up late on Saturday nights.

The Dude

Robert Smith told Jorge Sedano to enjoy all of his memories of The U cause that's all they'll ever be.

The Dude

Put down the Nike Hurricanes. Nike is for winners.

dj moonbat

We don't want Nike. They want night games, and all the eyeballs that go along with em. Being branded w Nike isn't worth it if our guys have to be up late on Saturday nights.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 17, 2014 at 09:38 PM


That's true. Maybe they can get a Snuggie sponsorship, so the players can stay up late on the couch watching other teams play.

1mg of Epi

And they have been crapping their pants lately

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