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dj moonbat

Who will the miss on? Who is your can't miss target?

Posted at 06:37 PM | Permalink


There are a whole lot of variables that might come into play over the next thirteen months. If we have another season like this one, might lose the whole class. If we lose the coach, might lose the whole class -- or might gain some ballers if we pick the right replacement. How well will McElwain recruit South Florida? Is the Winston Era over at FSU, and if so, will the team look as good to potential recruits as it has recently? Where will all these players' friends end up? Who will fail to make good enough grades?

In short, we don't know, and neither do the people who claim they do.

Ohio_Cane

Bosa is a for sure emphatic NO. Legacy kid for OSU. Add in Joey's success and there's a no brainer.

When kids are asleep I'll give my assessment of each from what I know right now.

YooperCane

Go Canes!

1mg of Epi

"Time is of the essence in year five. It is all about talent and depth at this stage of the game of Al Golden's tenure at UM if he is to be successful."

If he stays with the same scheming on defense, it won't matter how much depth and talent we have.

#3-6

dj moonbat

If he stays with the same scheming on defense, it won't matter how much depth and talent we have.

#3-6
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 23, 2014 at 07:36 PM


Nonsense. It seemed like every play last year, I was shouting at the TV "Why has God saddled Al Golden with such scrawny, lead-footed idiots to implement his ingenious schemes?! Why, God, why?!"

CaneRock

Did we recruit Rakeem Kato & Tommy Shuler?...or did they "not have the grades"?

CaneRock

Ya'll see that Marshall defense, they spill everything to the sidelines, and clean it up with their speed...#SPILL-N-KILL!

CaneRock

I heard Bosa say He wanted to play on the West Coast...USC?

Go Canes

Don't see legacies like Bush or Bosa even giving us a look.

Lot's of good ones on that list. Need to finish strong and have a good 2015 to have a shot at most of these kids.

Even if we are changing coaches, the promise of playing with Kaaya, if he becomes what we hope and think he will, can still get us a lot of those offensive guys.

WWIN

The only team there I can imagine rooting for is Oregon. Hate Bama and OSU. Respect FSU but can't root for them.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 23, 2014 at 04:15 PM

Good answer! I feel the same way!

WWIN

I know a guy that has Orange and Green in his veins!!!!!!!

HawaiiCane

I think Butch Davis will do an amazing job recruiting these kids. I wouldn't count any of them out when Butch is selling them on coming to 'The U'!

HawaiiCane

I want some to beat FSU badly as I want Winston's last game to be his only loss and the Noles not to come anywhere near the 2000-2002 Canes winning streak! Go anyone but Florida State!

1mg of Epi


Nonsense. It seemed like every play last year, I was shouting at the TV "Why has God saddled Al Golden with such scrawny, lead-footed idiots to implement his ingenious schemes?! Why, God, why?!"
Posted by: dj moonbat | December 23, 2014 at 07:40 PM

Awesome

Ohio_Cane

All of these should be taken with a grain of salt, seeing as it's 14 months until they sign. Too many things can change in recruiting from week to week, let alone that long. Our season, other team's seasons, coaching changes, $$$, etc.

Shavar Manuel - We have a shot. FSU is biggest competition and his uncle is an FSU fan and is his handler. Tough pull.

Nate Craig - no shot. We already have 2 of the top 10 WR's in that class, and he seems all SEC.

Trayvon Mullen - please lord! We have a shot. He's liked us since the FSU game. Elite speed, elite sized corner. I will pray to every god that he comes to UM. He's the type of kid you build a defense around, a la Sherman/Revis.

Nike Bosa - No.

Saivion Smith - We're building a pipeline with IMG, it seems. Love that. He would love to play for UM, but dad is big UF fan. Will be tough.

Snelson- Decommitted. Looks like he wants to play with Torrance Gibson. OSU's to lose, IMO.

Sam Bruce - We're good for now. He likes Oregon and FSU, though. As long as Beard stays and Scarlett sticks, he's ours. Also, Kaaya needs to keep playing at a high level.

Dionte Mullins - Only way we lose him is if Golden gets fired, IMO. His mom is extremely in love with Al and has said publicly the only way her son isn't a Cane is if Golden is gone. If he's fired or leaves, they'll reevaluate.

Eli Stove - I know nothing about him. Will look into it though.

Shaq Quarterman - As solid as it gets. If Golden goes, they'll meet with the new coach and see if they still feel UM is the best place. He is committed to the school, though, not the coach. His dad posts on CIS and is really cool.

Cactus Jack Allison - The heir to Kaaya's throne. No worries unless Coley isn't here. Elite qb.

Gotta wrap presents now. Will do the rest later or tmr

WWIN

^^^^^^^^ Good job Ohio!

Mullens' mom is hilarious! No way in hell one can be a huge UM fan but will leave if Golden leaves??!! LMAO

The Dude

The Dude has not officially signed with any teams fanbase. Although Oregon is definitely in the running, rumors of my commitment are unfounded.

Ohio_Cane

WWIM, some parents are very protective with their kids and trust coaches with their child's well-being. Mrs Mullins is one of those. Kaaya's mom another example with Coley. She was on board because she trusted him with Brad's life, basically. Moms call the shots sometimes.

WWIN

Spurrier on low tix sales: "We were 11-2 last year, I don't know if you've heard. Now we're 6-6. They used to play for NCs. They're 6-6."

WWIN

Ohio, she's bluffin!!!!!!!

I understand what you're saying tho and that's true, there are parents like that and Kaaya's mom is one, but Mullens' mom I don't believe.

Old Skool

Judge to Winston
In what manner, verbally or physically, did the woman give her consent to sex?

Winston said his accuser provided consent not with words but by "moaning."

God help the next injured player who moans near Winston.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/24/sports/ncaafootball/transcript-of-jameis-winston-hearing-reveals-accusers-words-and-florida-states-complicity.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Go Canes

Test

roachcane77

...rumors of my commitment are unfounded.
Posted by: The Dude | December 23, 2014 at 11:10 PM


Everything I read in the media seems to state otherwise... I think he's just toying with everyone, and going to do a big HAT switch on National TV on signing day. (These young kids today... just looking for publicity.)

roachcane77

There's also a rumor that The Dude MAY forego his college eligibility altogether, and just go straight to the Pros...

SinisterCane

If you could only save 1 life, who would it be?

Blake James vs. Nevin Shapiro

dj moonbat

If you could only save 1 life, who would it be?

Blake James vs. Nevin Shapiro

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 24, 2014 at 08:12 AM


Well, as framed, the question doesn't say I HAVE TO save either one. So the choice isn't really so hard.

USAFCane

Spurrier on low tix sales: "We were 11-2 last year, I don't know if you've heard. Now we're 6-6. They used to play for NCs. They're 6-6."

Posted by: WWIM | December 24, 2014 at 12:02 AM

that is as good a quote I've heard for a while. summed up the games and teams perfectly.

dj moonbat

that is as good a quote I've heard for a while. summed up the games and teams perfectly.

Posted by: USAFCane | December 24, 2014 at 08:38 AM


Not many people in sports will give the press better quotes than the Old Ball Coach. It would make a funny column writing up what Steve Spurrier would have said after Miami's losses, instead of the relentless banality of Goldenspeak.

SinisterCane

D'Onofrio the recruiter

According to 247sports D'Onofrio has only been responsible for one recruit in the 2015 cycle (Jamie Gordinier.) That is as either primary or secondary recruiter. ONE SINGLE consensus 3-star recruit in a whole year. And to get him D had to offer over a year in advance sandwiched between offers from Temple and Old Dominion. That is unfathomable to me. How is it possible that our D coordinator DOES NOT RECRUIT?

1mg of Epi

It would make a funny column writing up what Steve Spurrier would have said after Miami's losses, instead of the relentless banality of Goldenspeak.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 24, 2014 at 09:04 AM

In lieu of a press conference, Spurrier would've publicly executed both his coordinators.

dj moonbat

How is it possible that our D coordinator DOES NOT RECRUIT?

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 24, 2014 at 09:25 AM


It allows him the time he needs to build the #14 defense in the land.

1mg of Epi

Sinister... What's more unfathomable is that the HC has not fired said coordinator.

Can't coach, and all the charisma of a rotten corpse.

SinisterCane

Greg Olsen, Calais Campbell, Jimmy Graham and Devin Hester to the Pro Bowl

30CINCO

It allows him the time he needs to build the #14 defense in the land.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 24, 2014 at 09:29 AM
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Mission accomplished!

30CINCO

Miami Hurricanes' 2015 Recruiting Class: Offense

As we approach National Signing Day on Wednesday, February 4th, commitments and de-commitments will began to happen at a higher rate than ever before. To help keep tabs on the Miami Hurricanes’ 2015 class, here is a complete list with a breakdown and film on each of the current commits as well the total class and player rankings according to each major recruiting site.

2015 recruiting class ranking:

Rivals: 16th overall (3rd in ACC)

247sports: 18th overall (3rd in ACC)

ESPN: 17th overall (3rd in ACC)

19 current commits

Offense: 12 current commits

Read More here:
http://caneswarning.com/2014/12/23/miami-hurricanes-2015-recruiting-class-offense/

SinisterCane


Davis' explanation for what was behind his departure from UM: "Ten days before we played BC [Boston College] in the last game of the season, we had completed 97 percent of the contract. It had taken us three hours to agree to the money. That was done. I was probably one of the lowest-paid [I-A] head coaches when I took that job [in 1995] and then after seven years, they were paying me $1 million.

The stumbling block we could never get over was, if they decided to do what North Carolina did [by just suddenly firing him] they were only going to pay me 20 percent of the money, but because [Miami] had been burned by Howard [Schnellenberger] leaving and Jimmy leaving and Dennis [Erickson] leaving, so if I had ever left I had to pay them 80 percent.


"I said, 'Guys that isn't fair. I can't pay you 80 and you're only gonna pay me 20. If you wake up and say, 'I don't like redhead coaches,' I'm gone. Let's either make it 80-80, 20-20 or 50-50.' We battled over 20-80 for almost two months. I turned the Cleveland Browns job down. I turned down two other jobs.

Well, lo and behold, the last home visit I made I'm sitting in Antrel Rolle's living room and his mom and dad said, 'Coach, are you gonna be here?' I said, 'Antrel, I will be the head coach at the University of Miami,' and I believed in all my heart I was going to be. Then we go home and four or five days later we still can't get the contract done. [Cleveland president] Carmen Policy calls and says, 'Would you reconsider?'


"I talked it over with my wife. You live a little bit in fear. I thought, 'Well, today they love me, but in 1997 they were flying a plane over the stadium, 'Get Rid of Butch Davis!' It didn't take long to keep reminding yourself that this 80-20 stuff wasn't fair.

We made one more stab and called [Miami AD] Paul Dee and he went to the trustees and asked them to make it fair. Finally, we made the change. I wished I hadn't have, but we did.

30CINCO

"I talked it over with my wife. You live a little bit in fear. I thought, 'Well, today they love me, but in 1997 they were flying a plane over the stadium, 'Get Rid of Butch Davis!' It didn't take long to keep reminding yourself that this 80-20 stuff wasn't fair.

#thanksfans
#yourfaultbutchwasscared

SOUP

So the Ted Hendricks Award winner was from Utah?

Congratulations to the 2014 Hendricks Defensive End of the Year Award Winner Nate Orchard from the University of Utah. So proud of this young player for his on the field effort, academic performance and service to school and community. See more at www.tedhendricks.com

SOUP

BTW..Ted follows Canespace on Facebook and liked my article about UM Hardball. IJS

UpNorthCane27

interesting fact about Ted hendricks was that he was born in Guatemala City, Guatemala...

pretty weird!!

1mg of Epi

2015 recruiting class ranking:
Rivals: 16th overall (3rd in ACC)
247sports: 18th overall (3rd in ACC)
ESPN: 17th overall (3rd in ACC)

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 24, 2014 at 09:44 AM

So much for "elite recruiter"

#Butweonprobation

30CINCO

lol, I can see why you said you are not a recruiting expert.

TonyCane


Davis' explanation for what was behind his departure from UM: "Ten days before we played BC [Boston College] in the last game of the season, we had completed 97 percent of the contract. It had taken us three hours to agree to the money. That was done. I was probably one of the lowest-paid [I-A] head coaches when I took that job [in 1995] and then after seven years, they were paying me $1 million.

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 24, 2014 at 09:44 AM

To be fair, I think Butch came to a new contract after the 1995 season (when he was rumored to be heading off to coach Oakland), and perhaps one more time before 2000.

TonyCane

2015 recruiting class ranking:
Rivals: 16th overall (3rd in ACC)
247sports: 18th overall (3rd in ACC)
ESPN: 17th overall (3rd in ACC)

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 24, 2014 at 09:44 AM

So much for "elite recruiter"

#Butweonprobation

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 24, 2014 at 10:02 AM

Let's see how the class finishes out. We got three highly ranked players to sign with us on January 7th (2012), so the class's current ranking could fluctuate up...or down.

http://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2012/01/the-mother-load.html

And to be impartial in this...recruiting is a two year process at this point. The 2015 class was the last class affected at any point by the Shapiro scandal. The 2016 class was not, which is probably why it is stronger.

Terrance Sullivan

Ted Hendricks is awesome.

dj moonbat

To be fair, I think Butch came to a new contract after the 1995 season (when he was rumored to be heading off to coach Oakland), and perhaps one more time before 2000.

Posted by: TonyCane | December 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM


Fair? This is a blog.

I think Butch's explanation is self-serving, but when you get right down to it, at the very WORST, Butch's behavior could be described as shaking his employer down to get paid on terms reflecting something near his actual value.

It's not like he was trying to get a multi-year extension after having six wins in his first season, with a generous buyout that would prevent him from getting fired for years to come. That would be totally wrong.

CaneRock

"Finally, we made the change. I wished I hadn't have, but we did."

#WEFORGIVEYOUBUTCH
#YOUCANCOMEHOMENOW


J'Ville Cane

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 24, 2014 at 10:18 AM

Classic

30CINCO

To be fair, I think Butch came to a new contract after the 1995 season (when he was rumored to be heading off to coach Oakland), and perhaps one more time before 2000.

Posted by: TonyCane | December 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM
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Butch was "flirting" with Oakland? Before winning anything here? I'm sure fans don't/won't get angry at this kind of despicable act.

1mg of Epi

30... This is not elite. Doesn't take an Ohio Cane to see that.
He is lacking position of need recruits, and again that SoFla talent migrates north. This time last season his class was ranked 10 slots higher. Whay will this class look like After his annual signing day swings and misses this class look like?

We all know Al isn't going anywhere. To suggest he's elite at anything is intellectually dishonest.

Ohio_Cane

That article on D'No is complete BS. I haven't defended him in a while, especially as a DC, but this is warranted. I don't think he's a great recruiter by any means, but he's been the main or secondary on at least 15 recruits. I've read over 6 recruits just this cycle that mentioned him by name.

Ones I can remember are: Grace, Figs, courtel Jenkins, Kiy hester, danny Isadora, AQM, Njoku, and AJ Moten.

UMike

Hope all you guys have a safe and blessed Holiday. Go Canes!

Go Canes

To me what Butch is doing right now is kind of sad and reeks a little of desperation.

Makes me lose a little respect for him.

Even though he's never had a chance of getting this job again, ever, trolling for it publicly, while the job is still occupied, makes him look pretty bad.

No professional likes feeling like someone is trying to force their hand through public opinion. I can't imagine the BOT, those who ever considered him before, can be happy with what he's done the last week.

Go Canes

Will have little or no access to this computer and my phone is blocked still, so I may not get another chance to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, if that is your thing, and a happy holiday, if it is not.

Go Canes, beat the Cocks!!

30CINCO

Posted by: UMike | December 24, 2014 at 10:47 AM
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Same to you. Happy Holidays to all as well.

TonyCane

Butch was "flirting" with Oakland? Before winning anything here? I'm sure fans don't/won't get angry at this kind of despicable act.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 24, 2014 at 10:33 AM

The point I was trying to make is that I don't believe that Butch slaved away at his original contract for six years without getting extended. He had a few opportunities to renegotiate and had taken them.

Late 95 - Signs contract extension

1997 - Signs contract extension (only making $400K at the time - amazing how college football salaries have escalated!)

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1997-01-17/sports/9701160588_1_butch-davis-al-davis-raiders-owner

That said, I don't blame him for considering the Oakland opportunity. Miami was hit with crippling, unprecedented (aside from SMU) scholarship reductions late in his first year, and almost all coaches would have considered leaving if offered an NFL HC job.

TonyCane

And on a side note, Merry Christmas to everyone here.

30CINCO

Posted by: TonyCane | December 24, 2014 at 10:53 AM
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I'm with you. Have no problem with anyone looking to improve their financial situation. Be it going to the NFL, CFl, or their alma mater.

It's all about the benjamins.

Terrance Sullivan

Merry Christmas my CaneSpace FAM!

UpNorthCane27

Merry Chirstmas Canespace Family!!!! Love yall

CaneRock

Dave Wannstedt said He was "mystified" by what we're doing on defense, He doesn't have a chance at getting the job, either LMAO!...I don't think these are isolated opinions amongst our former HCs & ACs.

CaneRock

And some of ya'll act like ya'll just became fans when Golden became the HC...D'Onofrio can recruit?...$h!!!!!!!!d!

Bermuda Triangle

Winston said his accuser provided consent not with words but by "moaning."

God help the next injured player who moans near Winston.

Posted by: Old Skool | December 24, 2014 at 04:54 AM
HAHA--that's funny.

___________
That's predictable

To me what Butch is doing right now is kind of sad and reeks a little of desperation.

Makes me lose a little respect for him.

Even though he's never had a chance of getting this job again, ever, trolling for it publicly, while the job is still occupied, makes him look pretty bad.

No professional likes feeling like someone is trying to force their hand through public opinion. I can't imagine the BOT, those who ever considered him before, can be happy with what he's done the last week.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 24, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Bermuda Triangle

+1

"Finally, we made the change. I wished I hadn't have, but we did."

#WEFORGIVEYOUBUTCH
#YOUCANCOMEHOMENOW


Posted by: CaneRock | December 24, 2014 at 10:22 AM

1mg of Epi

Ohio.... re: that article.... Wouldn't the DC have his hands in every defensive players recruiting? Gotta think no kids signing w a school without having reletavily significant contact w the coordinator.

CaneRock

I don't think D'Onofrio doesn't actively recruit, per se. I was surprised to see a video of Him & Barrow recruiting Denver Kirkland...or at least they were attending His game.

SOUP

To suggest he's elite at anything is intellectually dishonest.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 24, 2014 at 10:45 AM

No it is not.

Bermuda Triangle

Even though he's never had a chance of getting this job again, ever, trolling for it publicly, while the job is still occupied, makes him look pretty bad.
***How do you know this? are you in the BOT meetings?

No professional likes feeling like someone is trying to force their hand through public opinion. I can't imagine the BOT, those who ever considered him before, can be happy with what he's done the last week.
***but you are happy with what Al's done the last 4 years? You think the BOT is happy as well?

Bermuda Triangle

It's not like he was trying to get a multi-year extension after having six wins in his first season, with a generous buyout that would prevent him from getting fired for years to come. That would be totally wrong.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 24, 2014 at 10:18 AM

That would take a special kind of @ss clown to have the stones / audacity do that...

1mg of Epi

Butch didn't do anything wrong. He did interviews to promote the best recruiting tool this university's had in the last decade, which Hopefully is the only video recruits have seen of this team. When asked about the job he just spoke in glowing terms about the school. The fans were already calling for butch, this didn't change anything. Not Butchs fault the release of this film comes on the heels of a 3-6 season.

As far as the BOT being upset.... Isn't it you who said nobody inside hears anything that goes on out here? Yea u did.

Bermuda Triangle

To suggest he's elite at anything is intellectually dishonest.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 24, 2014 at 10:45 AM

No it is not.

Posted by: SOUP | December 24, 2014 at 11:30 AM

He has kept his job as DC of a power 5 conf after fielding the worst defense in school history and followed that up with another last place showing in the ACC
that's elite

1mg of Epi

That would take a special kind of @ss clown to have the stones / audacity do that...
Posted by: Bermuda Triangle | December 24, 2014 at 11:35 AM

And complete and utter incompetence on the part of the university to actually agree to it..

1mg of Epi

Posted by: Bermuda Triangle | December 24, 2014 at 11:33 AM

He says he has "connections"... Lolololololing

1mg of Epi

To suggest he's elite at anything is intellectually dishonest.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 24, 2014 at 10:45 AM
No it is not.
Posted by: SOUP | December 24, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Please... Show me where I'm wrong. I'm all ears!

1mg of Epi

And soup I'm legitimately asking what is he elite at.... I can't think of anything that hasn't been subpar.

SOUP

1. Even though he's never had a chance of getting this job again, ever, trolling for it publicly, while the job is still occupied, makes him look pretty bad.

***How do you know this? are you in the BOT meetings?

2. No professional likes feeling like someone is trying to force their hand through public opinion. I can't imagine the BOT, those who ever considered him before, can be happy with what he's done the last week.

***but you are happy with what Al's done the last 4 years? You think the BOT is happy as well?

Posted by: Bermuda Triangle | December 24, 2014 at 11:33 AM

1. Forget the specific of THIS situation, just generally speaking you would have to agree that this is true.

2. Nobody is "happy" with the scenario - not any blogger here, not the AD, not the BOT not Golden. But being unhappy and change happening are two different things.

I think everyone involved wants to be happier going forward and if we are not then change will happen.

That is all.

Bermuda Triangle

Soup--my response was to the first part of his claim
1. Even though he's never had a chance of getting this job again, ever,

***How do you know this? are you in the BOT meetings?
Honestly --I don't care if Butch is dressing up as a Fed-ex driver and delivering his resume inside the poinsettia to the BOT today.

SOUP

Epi the word "elite" is difficult to interpret or guage or determine. Let's just leave it at Golden is very good to excellent at many things. The bottom line that we all agree on is that he has not won enough games and has lost to teams he should not have lost to. It's that simple.

The only difference is that some fans want change NOW and they scream the loudest and most often. Saying it LOUDLY or all day every day will not change things or make it happen any sooner than it will if determined to be necessary. It just makes a few people feel better and clutters the blog with the same crap day in and day out.

Some fans don't want change YET but will if things do not get better soon. These fans typically are more reserved or humble and less emotional (no anger or hate) in their approach to arguing for their side and for the hope of happier times ahead.

But nobody is happy with the results so far.

And I mean NOBODY!

SOUP

Soup--my response was to the first part of his claim
1. Even though he's never had a chance of getting this job again, ever,

***How do you know this? are you in the BOT meetings?

2. Honestly --I don't care if Butch is dressing up as a Fed-ex driver and delivering his resume inside the poinsettia to the BOT today.

Posted by: Bermuda Triangle | December 24, 2014 at 12:23 PM

1. OK then that makes more sense, I get it now.

2. That's a good one - and funny too!

Bermuda Triangle

Some fans don't want change YET but will if things do not get better soon.


Posted by: SOUP | December 24, 2014 at 12:26 PM

I just can't agree with that--the blobbers we're talking will go down with the Hindenburg, yelling oh the humanity, that it was unfair Al didn't get enough time to turn it around, the cloud, etc

Bermuda Triangle

but I believe there are some in the camp you are speaking about.
Just bored and somewhat bitter as I need to work today.
Merry Christmas to you and thanks for the platform /blob and all you do.

Go Canes

Test

1mg of Epi

Soup.. Are you planning on running for office? If so ill assume that answer is practice for your upcoming debates.

1mg of Epi

Bermuda.. What you have to remember is that the powers that be have different expectations for this team than we do. While they would love to be competing for NCs, they don't consider it to be a necessity. They feel it would cost too much money, money that would be better spent elsewhere.

This team generates a lot of money for the university and the athletic department. As long as players graduate, there are no headline grabbing scandals and we reach bowl games most of the BOT are happy. Not all, but most. The admin hasn't downgraded their expectations. If anything they've increased them since Schnelly was here... But it's unfair to say that they've lowered expectations and no longer expect championships. They never have.

Al will never lead us to prominence, but Here's the good news: The U can at any time find itself nationally relevant again, for no other reason than it sits in the most fertile recruiting grounds in the nation. Eventually Al will fail to reach bowl games and he will be gone. When that happens all we need is a good recruiter with a tactical mind.

The program is NOT dead... We will be back.

Bermuda Triangle

i hope so Epi, if it can happen soon... :

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CaneRock

Golden is NOT elite. Face it, Golden would've gotten the same results in the MAC! Again, Akron beat Pitt 21-10, you're tellin' we're worse than Akron?!

God didnt create everyone with 100% EQUAL SKILLS.
Some waitresses are better than other waitresses...
Some carpenters are better than other carpenters...
Some CEOs are better than other CEOS.
And surprise SURPRISE! SURPRISE!...some coaches are better than other coaches!

The human dynamic is NOT somehow suspended into thin air when the word coach is put in front of a persons name!

BigWindyCane1

As a recruiter/coordinator, D'No is the polar opposite of Coley. Coley is likeable, relatable and recognizes talent.

I would like to see the Canes reestablish their dominance in recruiting the State of Miami. I would like to see the Canes win some of those recruiting battles in Florida and the three ways to do that are: give recruits a good chance to graduate from a great university close to home (we can at least thank Tad and Donna for that), develop players jnto stars and prepare them for the NFL (which the Canes are doing), and win games (which Golden still needs to do).

1mg of Epi

Bermuda.... LOL Festivus for the rest of us! Where are the feats of strength!

CR.. No, he's not. Nobody can think of even 1 area he is!! Except maybe if you consider his 300 page manual, then maybe he is an elite author of fiction!

Old Skool

Attention Canes fans: Do not expect lots of toys and presents this year. You'll only get half of what you want. Santa is making limited deliveries. It's part of his process.

SOUP

I just can't agree with that--the blobbers we're talking will go down with the Hindenburg.

Posted by: Bermuda Triangle | December 24, 2014 at 12:30 PM

U don't have to agree with it, that's what blogs are for. But it is true with a small minority of Canes fans, the AD and the BOT AT THIS TIME. That can change at any time like post bowl game or even after next season. Time will tell.

Oh, and BTW, we have gone down with the Hindenburg twice before in recent memory so one more time, IF it happens, is NBD.

SOUP

Merry Christmas to you and thanks for the platform /blob and all you do.

Posted by: Bermuda Triangle | December 24, 2014 at 12:32 PM

Back at U: Merry Christmas!

WWIN

To me what Go Canes is doing right now is kind of sad and reeks a little of desperation.

Makes me lose a little respect for him.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 24, 2014 at 10:49 AM

The same can be said for how people feel about you in defense of Golden. IJS

Merry Christmas tho, hope you enjoy your first Christmas with your fiancé and her kids!

AeroCane

Just fire softie Golden already! Let's move on
-nothing will change with this non aggressive loser as our coach
Butch is aggressive and wants better - he left us for the nfl -that's good enough for me. Bring him back and lets get back to Miami football. Our admin and bot absolutely suck for not taking advantage of this Golden opportunity with Butch! Eff them all if they don't do what's right for the players, fans and school!

1mg of Epi

Oh, and BTW, we have gone down with the Hindenburg twice before in recent memory so one more time, IF it happens, is NBD.

Posted by: SOUP | December 24, 2014 at 01:43 P

Exactly.

We will eventually get back to where we belong.

SOUP

Are you planning on running for office? If so ill assume that answer is practice for your upcoming debates.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 24, 2014 at 12:36 PM

What gave it away? LOL

SOUP

Skool...I think I smell an analogy there?

Happy Holidays and I hope your Mom is doing well.

WWIN

Butch was "flirting" with Oakland? Before winning anything here? I'm sure fans don't/won't get angry at this kind of despicable act.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 24, 2014 at 10:33 AM

We weren't angry with Golden for interviewing for the psu job, we were mad that he didn't get it!

#thanksPSU

Merry Christmas!

SOUP

Except maybe if you consider his 300 page manual, then maybe he is an elite author of fiction!

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 24, 2014 at 01:29 PM

Golden is prolly "elite" in selling, speaking, writing and planning. He would be a good CEO or Marketing Director.

It's the executing, game day coaching (read: adjustments, time management) and winning that he needs to work on. He needs to become a better coach.

Let's see what happens in the bowl game and then judge this season.

SinisterCane

"I'm hurt Dawg I put my heat into this

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