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December 21, 2014

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Sebas13

1st

roachcane77

Too soon... (LOL)

Terrance Sullivan

Can't wait for the season to start and the road to Omaha to commence. Go Canes!

The Dude

4. Throw Dorsett the d@mn ball.

The Dude

We talking about baseball.

86Cane

YUP

MaryLouAlumni

How do all of you feel about the new license plate? Just Curious.
My boyfriend Richard is driving me back to Satellite Beach the day after Christmas. Can't wait to feel the sun again. Maybe I will be safer. Picked up a bin of Bliss Lights, to take to my cousins house, and terribly misjudged the weight. You can tell the rest. Thought it was light, and it was very heavy. UGH. Pulled everything again.
Anyhow, Everyone have a blessed Christmas, Happy Holidays to all of you fellow Canes. Special Merry Christmas to Tom and Maria.

86Cane

We could talk about PRACTICE if U prefer?

86Cane

Special Merry Christmas to Tom and Maria.

Posted by: MaryLouAlumni | December 21, 2014 at 07:10 PM

We love U MaryLou, don't U ever forget that!

VfB_Cane

After just watching the U-2, all I can say is this:

If the people in charge are not sure whether a 6-6 record is acceptable and are not thinking about alternatives to the current coaching staff, that doesn't mean the U has lowered its expectations.
It means that we have no more standards for success at all.

And that hurts, big time.

86Cane

Despite a riveting, last minute 37-35 victory over the Minnesota Vikings, the Miami Dolphins' playoff hopes came to a disappointing end Sunday thanks to a Pittsburgh Steelers victory earlier in the afternoon.

Sitting at 7-5 and in control of their own destiny just a few weeks ago, the Dolphins will be playing for nothing but pride in next week's finale against the New York Jets, as their postseason drought reaches six seasons.

For embattled head coach Joe Philbin, who has led the Dolphins to a 23-24 record in his nearly three seasons at the helm, another year outside of the playoff picture was a tough pill to swallow.

"I want to compete for championships while I'm the head coach of the Miami Dolphins," Philbin said. "It's disappointing we're not in it."

Clearly, it's time for change in Miami. It's time to shake things up. It's time to try something new.

Or is it?

Leading 28-20 in what was a wild fourth quarter in Sunday's victory, Miami allowed Minnesota to drive 59 yards for a touchdown and make a 2-point conversion to tie the game. On the ensuing kickoff, Jarvis Landry, who has been one of the league's best kick returners this season, fumbled at the 5, leading to a go-ahead touchdown from Vikings running back Matt Asiata with 4:35 to go.

In recent weeks, this unfortunate series of events would have been a deathblow to an emotionally drained Dolphins team. Having already endured fourth-quarter collapses in games against Detroit, Green Bay and Denver, we already knew what to expect. Another Miami implosion was imminent.

Yet, even with their grip on the game beginning to slip, the anger on the sidelines that we had come to expect in this situation was nowhere to be found. Instead, the Dolphins gathered themselves and marched 80 yards down field in 11 plays to score a game-tying touchdown in the final minutes.
"We came together as a team," said running back Damien Williams, whose 3-yard touchdown reception tied the game with 1:11 remaining. "It just shows how close we are. No one started pointed fingers, no one got down. Coach said we're going to be as good as our rookies are, and today showed it."

86Cane

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston was cleared Sunday of the accusations he faced at a student code of conduct hearing involving an alleged sexual assault two years ago.

Former Florida Supreme Court Justice Major Harding wrote in a letter to Winston that the evidence was "insufficient to satisfy the burden of proof." Prosecutor Willie Meggs made a similar decision a year ago when he decided not to criminally charge Winston, citing a lack of evidence.

86Cane

Major B. Harding (born October 13, 1935) is an attorney and former Chief Justice of the Florida Supreme Court. He was appointed to the court by Governor Lawton Chiles in 1991 and served until 2002. His tenure as chief justice lasted from 1998 to June 2000. Prior to being appointed to the supreme court, Harding served as a circuit judge for Florida's Fourth Judicial Circuit and as a Duval County juvenile court judge.

In 2014, Florida State University appointed him to adjudicate the disciplinary hearing of Florida State Football Quarterback Jameis Winston concerning allegations that Jameis Winston violated Florida State University's Student Conduct Code. The hearing, originally scheduled for November 17th, 2014 was pushed back to December 1st, 2014.[1]

Harding received his undergraduate and law degrees from Wake Forest University. He also holds a Master of Laws in Judicial Process from the University of Virginia.

mi@mic@ne

Butch Davis candid on state of UM program; Pat Riley's message; Dolphins; Marlins hot stove

SUNDAY BUZZ COLUMN

Butch Davis wants to make this clear before agreeing to discuss the state of the University of Miami football program: He is not lobbying for Al Golden’s job, isn’t trying to undermine him.

But Davis, in his role as an ESPN2 analyst, offered eye-opening responses to pointed questions posed in a phone conversation last week.

Davis’ remarkable renaissance job at UM, culminating in the construction of a powerhouse roster that he left behind for Larry Coker when Davis bolted for the Cleveland Browns, was showcased on national television last week, with several re-airings of The U Part 2.

So why does Davis believe the UM program has declined?

“It’s got to be the talent level,” he said. “Somebody is not evaluating the talent. Name the time they weren’t ranked in the top 13 or 14 recruiting classes. And 29 of these guys are gone in the last four years and [some of those still at UM] are not good players.

“You can recruit enough kids just living in Miami to win a national championship. Howard Schnellenberger had it right when he talked about recruiting from Tampa to Orlando and the Space Coast south. You can get 10, 14 players everyone would love to have from South Florida and then cherry-pick other players.

“There would be a Bubba Franks or a Damione Lewis from Texas. If a state doesn’t produce enough of a particular thing,… let’s go to [Pennsylvania] to sign Martin Bibla… Somewhere there has to be a disconnect with that. Either they can’t evaluate players or players have jumped ship or flunked out or whatever the deal.”

Davis, who went 51-20 in six years at UM (1995-2000), also points to coaching.

“Look at the staff I had: Chuck Pagano is coaching the Indianapolis Colts. Greg Schiano coached Tampa Bay. Larry Coker (UT-San Antonio) and Curtis Johnson (Tulane) became head coaches. Rob Chudzinski became a head coach (Cleveland Browns). Our kids got the [expletive] coached out of them.

“When they left our program, they were damn near a finished, polished gem. There wasn’t any rookie wall for Ed Reed, Jeremy Shockey, Bubba Franks… They immediately became impact players at that level. I can’t name a Miami player [in his prime] who’s a star in the league. Other than Jimmy Graham, I can’t name one.

“I love [The U Part 2 director] Billy Corben and he tells a phenomenally great story. The one thing I wished is there would be more credit for some of the assistants. I didn’t do it all by myself. I don’t see anyone on their staff being promoted to coordinators or jumping ship for coordinator jobs. I know that goes hand in hand with winning. That is an outsider perspective.”

(Two exceptions are Jedd Fisch and Terry Richardson, who left for the Jacksonville Jaguars two years ago.)

Davis, who’s living in Bonita Springs, doesn’t want to hear anybody suggest that a return to past dominance is unrealistic for UM.

“I don’t see why they can’t dominate,” he said. “Eighty-five percent of the programs in America would kill to change the location [to Miami] and have the weather they have in Miami. And there are more players in Florida now than when I was there, more schools on the West Coast [of the state].

“If you don’t have access to players and talent, it doesn’t matter what staff you have because you’re probably not going to win. Miami has that ginormous built-in advantage of all that talent. They have a 30-year history of winning and great players. A lot of those kids lived through those generations. The reality is somebody has to recruit and have an eye for talent and somebody has to coach the [expletive] out of them.”

Davis knows the recent NCAA investigation was hurtful, including the two self-imposed bowl bans and the loss of nine scholarships.

But Davis said even beyond the 31 scholarships that he lost to NCAA sanctions, “we had kids with career ending injuries. The Kenny Holmes, Ray Lewises, Kennard Langs decided to go out early. Marlin Barnes had just been [murdered] and Robert Woodus died in the ValueJet crash.”

Davis attended the premiere of The U Part 2 on Lincoln Road a week ago and a few fans in attendance shouted, “We want Butch!”

That reaction, he said, “was awkward, humbling, a tiny bit embarrassing, predominantly because it took a lot of people. It took assistant coaches, it took [former UM president] Tad Foote. It was a huge leap of faith to trust me, that I had the right vision for the program. I loved the years I was there. I cherish it.”

When Davis is approached by UM fans yearning for his return, “I try to avoid those because it’s not good. If the roles were reversed, I wouldn’t want someone lobbying for my job. It’s unfortunate. They’re not playing good, not winning.”

He says it’s an “enormous surprise for them to be 6-6. They didn’t appear to be very competitive at the end of the season, seemed like they were punching the clock.”

After going 28-23 in four years at North Carolina, Davis was fired in July 2010 amid a university-wide academic scandal that long predated his arrival. Davis, 63, was never implicated by the NCAA and said the NCAA sent him a letter exonerating him.

Davis spent the 2012 and 2013 seasons working as a special assistant to Schiano before the Buccaneers fired Schiano. Friends say Davis, 63, would love the UM job if it opens at some point.

“I would love to coach if the right opportunity presented itself,” he said, speaking generally and not about UM specifically. “There have been opportunities in the last couple of years but not the place you said it’s the right fit. Anybody who knows me knows it’s all-in with me.”

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2014/12/butch-davis-candid-on-state-of-um-program-pat-rileys-message-dolphins-marlins-hot-stove.html#storylink=cpy

86Cane

How to kill the blog?

Post about baseball!

mi@mic@ne

sorry just thought it was like its always been...

Ohio_Cane

U wanna see the best highlight film u've ever seen? Check this out: http://youtu.be/MBETF8AUqUs

Shaq Quarterman. Wow. Production is fantastic. Oh, and that song is pretty good, too lol

VA Cane

I want to see some justice for Winston. A Tatumizer that ends his career. He is not a good guy, he is in order:a loudmouth a liar a thief a rapist. He goes to a school that allows idiots who have no right to an education to play football when they should be mopping bathrooms at McDs. Their coach is a little bald headed jerk who loves a lie. You got to wish some bad shit on these clowns.

1mg of Epi

If the people in charge are not sure whether a 6-6 record is acceptable and are not thinking about alternatives to the current coaching staff, that doesn't mean the U has lowered its expectations.
It means that we have no more standards for success at all.
And that hurts, big time.

Posted by: VfB_Cane | December 21, 2014 at 07:11 PM

They haven't lowered expectations. There never were any. Nobody in Admin/BOT woke up one morning 30 years ago and said "Lets build a dynasty!". They just just happened to make several good hires in a row, reuniting in 5 NCs. I would go so far as to say that consistent bowl game appearances weren't necessarily expected. They didn't do any of the things one would consider necessary to create sustained success. They didn't invest in the program anything beyond the necessities.

Truth is , Admin/BOT has raised their expectations in that they expect bowl appearances. They would like to see another dynasty, but they aren't going to actively pursue it.

If anything this is why we should be hopeful. EventuallyAG will be gone. My gut tells me he has at least 2 more seasons. His replacement will find himself in THE hot bead of HS talent, and will be able to find national relevance so long as he can get the right kids to come (which they will) and be slightly above average in terms Xs and Os guy.

Is this a horrible football admin? Yes... But the U can win and win big in spite of them.

Oh and BTW... 3-6 vs power 5.

dj moonbat

Shaq Quarterman. Wow. Production is fantastic. Oh, and that song is pretty good, too lol

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 21, 2014 at 10:05 PM


Yeah, so that dude is a beast. He's already pretty much a full-sized middle linebacker, though, and he's not going to be in college for a couple more years. In the old days, I'd say he ends up a DT, but now I just don't know where he'd go.

Montreal-Cane

Matt Shodell
CaneSport.com

This QB is talking to UM with Dwayne Lawson now decommitted.

Who is this kid?

So Lawson didn't want to compete. Any other QB as good if not better than Lawson interested to compete at the U? Ohio what do you think?

Montreal-Cane

SOUP our baseball team will provide a lot of offense this year. The pitching rotation in my humble opinion is not as good as last year but i expect the Canes to be a better ball club because they will put a lot of points on the board. The Canes should reach at the very least the Super Regionals.

Ohio_Cane

So Lawson didn't want to compete. Any other QB as good if not better than Lawson interested to compete at the U? Ohio what do you think?

Posted by: Montreal-Cane | December 21, 2014 at 10:41 PM
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As good or better than Lawson? Not happening, IMO. We may not take any QB in this class. Missing on Lawson sucks.

dj moonbat

As good or better than Lawson? Not happening, IMO. We may not take any QB in this class. Missing on Lawson sucks.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 21, 2014 at 10:57 PM

#thankskaaya

Ohio_Cane

Wouldn't be surprised to see another grad transfer for depth

1mg of Epi

I think by the time Golden is done, the death knell will be upon us. Golden was not qualified to coach at Perv State...at least they knew it. That interview was a courtesy to JoPerv....he knew what was going on with that crap....he played ignorant to avoid the truthand preserve his legacy.
He should never been hired. I am so tired of this lame process, I will not fokk
Posted by: VA Cane | December 21, 2014 at 10:36

Not a death knell, but it's gonna take a long time to recover. If they made a change now, next year could've been the season we get the the ACC CG. The talent level will start to fall of now, as Al has made clear what he is,and so the new coach will be dealt an empty cupboard.

dj moonbat

Not a death knell, but it's gonna take a long time to recover. If they made a change now, next year could've been the season we get the the ACC CG. The talent level will start to fall of now, as Al has made clear what he is,and so the new coach will be dealt an empty cupboard.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 21, 2014 at 11:33 PM


Too early to start predicting a perfect 2015?

1mg of Epi

Why is it too early?

WWIN

The Herb wuz in dis camp?!?!

The Dude

Posted by: 86Cane | December 21, 2014 at 07:11 PM

After this semester I will gladly talk about anything not called Humanities.

The Dude

Someone help me here on baseball. Didn't The U's best pitcher turn down the MLB? Can't remember his name right now.

The Dude

Lawson strikes me as a thrower, not a QB. The strongest HS arm I've ever seen next to JaMarcus Russell and Matt Stafford. I wonder if he pitches in baseball? I'm not at all surprised he uncommitted to Miami, for various reasons but mostly because Kaaya is the starter barring some unforseen injury. That means what... 2 scholarship QBs next year? Rosier better be ready. Why can't Williams get a Med RS?

WWIN

Why can't Williams get a Med RS?

Posted by: The Dude | December 22, 2014 at 12:45 AM

Don't know, but seems like some kinda conspiracy.

TonyCane

Disagree, 1mp. The Hurricanes will at worst have the same amount of talent at the close of the 2015 season that they do now, and that is preduming a junior exodus after that season and a 2011 like collapse in recruiting for 2016. More than likely it will be a stronger team at the end of 2015.

1mg of Epi

DJ... It's not too early to predict next year. In fact, you can just read this blog to get a pretty good idea how things are gonna go. Here's a summary, in the words of our fellow bloggers....

1) Recruiting:
-"I'm not at all surprised he uncommitted to Miami"- The Dude
2) Level of Talent:
-"Two scholarship QBs next year"- The Dude
3) On Field Performance:
-" Golden not qualified to coach"- Va Cane

We can even use our crystal ball and see into the future. Here's how 2016 and beyond will go...

Al will continue to employ a non-sensical defensive scheme, which will result in the O needing to score more points than their incorherent game plan will allow. The bottom line: it is unlikely Al will be able to improve on this years losing record vs. power 5 teams, a record which currently stands at 3-6.

By virtue of his sub .500 record vs power 5, Al will be further exposed as an incompetent tactician, something recruits are already noticing. As the recruit classes yield less and less talent each year, Al becomes uncompetitive vs Powe 5, and in danger of falling to second tier teams.

Unfortunately, this horror story has already begun... Stay tuned as this recruit class continues to dissolve before our eyes.

So to answer your question... No it's not to early to predict 2015.

1mg of Epi

Tony... How? This class is already ranked lower than last year, we've lost some commits, have none at positions of need and haven't yet had the signing day disappointments which are a golden tradition.

I'm not a recruiting expert, don't claim to be.. So im curious why u think we're gonna be getting all this talent

The Dude

this is a class that is ranked strong but doesn't fill enough needs.
No elite DTs. No shutdown CBs. Not enough LBs. Explosive pass rusher? Elite WR? Maybe Elite TE? Maybe. Depth chart dictates the need for a QB.

VA Cane

Maybe Lawson does not like competition....and maybe he, like others, see the program in the light of reality. I think a lot of kids see the 6-6 record....losing to average powers like Ville, NB, GT.....1 good team in FSU, ....and poor teams like UVA and Pitt. Then you look at Bama OSU FSU and Oregon....making history in the playoff format playing on NYD....exposure, chance at NC, All American status....NFL ticket....and you are going to trade that for 5 crystal footballs gathering dust, 2 volumes of nostalgia, and a cat named AlPa walking around with a folder of blank paper who does not know how to coach? Think about it.....

dj moonbat

Maybe Lawson does not like competition....and maybe he, like others, see the program in the light of reality.

Posted by: VA Cane | December 22, 2014 at 04:19 AM


Lawson was pretty up front about his choice to decommit stemming from a desire not to sit on the bench for three years:

  "At the time when I committed [in May], it was the best opportunity for me,'' Lawson told HokieHaven.com. "They had a freshman quarterback playing and all these other things going on and I felt like that was the best decision. He's probably gonna be there another three years. I wish him the best, I wish the program the best and we'll see what happens from there. I don't consider myself committed there anymore.''

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/#storylink=cpy

TonyCane

Sheer numbers, 1mp. The Canes lose 2 four and five star players after the bowl game, and possibly four if Duke and another junior leave. Usually in normal years that number is between 7 -10, but the departing 2011 class had only two 4/5 star players.

If the 2015 class holds together to a large extent, the Canes will be stronger on paper next year, and overall would be the strongest team fielded by Golden. It would still be about 25% weaker than Shannon or the latter Coker teams, but far better than anyone in the Coastal.

Of course, that's all on paper. But if Golden were to depart this year or next his successor would inherit a fairly powerful team to work with, with depth issues at DL and QB. It's a better situation for a replacement than two years ago, where the Canes had their weakest collection of talent in a decade.

TonyCane

It's a shame to loose Lawson. Depth issues crippled the Canes at quarterback from 2005 - 2007, and again 2009 - 2011.

CaneRock


Yeah, so that dude is a beast. He's already pretty much a full-sized middle linebacker, though, and he's not going to be in college for a couple more years. In the old days, I'd say he ends up a DT, but now I just don't know where he'd go.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 21, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Last kid we had that big playing LB coming outta HS, was Allen Bailey. But I think Quarterman is way faster than Bailey, reminds me of a bigger version of Willie Williams in HS. And IIRC, Levon Kirkland was a big ole' LB, I remember Him playing at 270.

UMike

The QB situation is kinda scary, cant have those gaps in years. All we have behind Kaaya is Rosier...Im sure the staff will plug in some transfer with no talent lol

1mg of Epi

TC... We are losing by far our best player on both O and D. No way you can tell me the 17th rated incoming class makes up for that. Maybe in 3 years a couple those kids will pan out, but not next year.

dj moonbat

Last kid we had that big playing LB coming outta HS, was Allen Bailey. But I think Quarterman is way faster than Bailey, reminds me of a bigger version of Willie Williams in HS. And IIRC, Levon Kirkland was a big ole' LB, I remember Him playing at 270.

Posted by: CaneRock | December 22, 2014 at 08:49 AM


I know, he's definitely not too SLOW to play LB (like Bailey was as he got big), at least not yet. But Hudl shows Nike Sparq numbers of 6'1", 239, and to look at him on tape, his upper body isn't even fully filled out yet. Just natural growth from weightlifting and eating right, with no intent to bulk the kid up, and he could be 260 by the time he gets to campus.

So there's not much sense trying to fight that. The kid's going to be big. If, somehow, he stays that fast at 260, definitely, keep him at linebacker. But if he slows down, it doesn't make sense to pull a Chickillo and try to turn him into a 3-4 DE, unless he also gets a little taller. In the old 4-3, you could 'shirt that kid for a year, and turn him into an absolute monster of a 3-technique DT.

Oh, what's it matter? I'm talking about what a GOOD coaching staff would try to do with this freak of nature. At least this kid won't have to put on AS MUCH weight as Chickillo did so that he can play patty cake.

dj moonbat

The QB situation is kinda scary, cant have those gaps in years. All we have behind Kaaya is Rosier...Im sure the staff will plug in some transfer with no talent lol

Posted by: UMike | December 22, 2014 at 08:52 AM


Pretty soon we'll be cross-training our punter, just like the good old days.

Ohio_Cane

Lawson leaving makes Jack Allison in 2016 even more important than he already was. Unless Coley can pull some of his magic by February, Allison is the heir to Kaaya's thone.

dj moonbat

Lawson leaving makes Jack Allison in 2016 even more important than he already was. Unless Butch can pull some of his magic by February, Allison is the heir to Kaaya's thone.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 22, 2014 at 09:04 AM


Fixed it for you. (I'm feeling uncharacteristically optimistic this morning.)

30CINCO

Im sure the staff will plug in some transfer with no talent lol

Posted by: UMike | December 22, 2014 at 08:52 AM
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Man, talk about throwing the kids under the bus

CaneRock


In the old 4-3, you could 'shirt that kid for a year, and turn him into an absolute monster of a 3-technique DT.



Posted by: dj moonbat | December 22, 2014 at 09:02 AM

Or a 4-3 rush end, ala Eric Moncur.

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